flames01:


The Kano Emir, etc that you mentioned married those girls with parental consent. Did Busola's parent give Fatoyinbo the consent to fucck their underaged daughter?

mhizdebbygold:
Na so I go laugh una when it is confirmed that Mr fat oyinbo is guilty as charged....
What do I even know *walks out of thread*

spongeisback:
Actually you're the one being emotional because if you're being objective and none bias you would not absolve your pastor of the blame as you did, you would not try to make it a religious issue but about humanity. You want to give Biodun the chance to clear his name in court fine why don't you also give Busola that same chance? You're a hypocrite, you want to poke holes in Busola's story and make her look like a liar and at the same time you're going on about me being prejudiced? Just go through your comments on this matter and see for yourself.

I see that you willfully omitted the part where a pastor is meant to be a moral guide and you yet again added Imams and an atheist forgetting that we (me an atheist and Imams) never claimed to hear from god and have the Holy Spirit. Why should a pastor, called by god be involved in sexual scandals not once or twice?

Don't try to trivialize sexual immorality to being just human OK? You can't claim to be born again and still claim to be "just human". YES I've taken a stand an unlike you am not hiding under the cloak of "let the court decide" because what you condone says a lot about you.

If you want the court to decide biodun's fate then you should also give busola the same chance instead of speculating and telling well packaged lies because it's obvious where you stand and by your earliest comments the only room for doubts you've given is making excuses for the pastor while castigating Busola. The attached is from your Bible.

AmazonHippolyta:

Nah you should stop it. Where in my post did I indicate that I supported Busola or I nailed the pastor.
My post has not been about Busola but rape victims and different situations peculiar to them.
You are not others so you cannot speak for others and what should be their reactions.
Leave my mentions I won't waste my time discussing with a sentimental fellow. Allow the pastor defend himself are you his press secretary. Your pastor should take her to court since he is innocent.
So you should stop your silly propaganda

flames01:


You said it as if committing sin is a right. Hmm.... You are a complete description of an end time Christian. You don't abjure or hate sin anymore; you now see sin as a welcoming development.

Do they even Preach against sin anymore in your church?

And I hope you will repeat this abnormality when your pastor has carnal knowledge of your underaged daughter

Many Muslims will make heaven ahead of many who call themselves Christians.

Inteltower:





first of if you don't know the history of world pls shut up...when the commandments were given to Israelites wasn't it to written down through a man ?
you talk of the fabrications of the bible, as if it wouldn't be written through men under the guidance of the Holy spirit..
& even when the Roman Catholic may have held or changed some...even a few private individuals that too interpreted with a hidden motive... you fail to forget that there is the Holy spirit who helps us know what is written in the scripture.
I shouldn't be replying you because clearly you lack spiritual insight & speak as a canal man.
if only you knew the role Christ played for your life.

also go & read the book " the great controversy" to gain insight on how the bible were interpreted & disseminated...(claiming to know history)

I laugh Swahili... you a contemporal human being level horrible allegations towards Christ of being gay, some other stupid book said he was married... fools that refuse to believe either fabricate stories or just don't want to believe.

when Christ was facing trial why didn't his accusers said he practiced homosexuality ?
if disciples wanted to paint him Good why didn't at least one that were close to him day & night didn't say anything. even Judas that betrayed him later confessed he had done no wrong.

a 100% priest never marries. Our God wants to save mankind does he need his son to be distracted by marriage or sexual vices

isn't he God ?
how can one present during creation & above flesh desires or our fallen nature be moved by being gay talk less of marriage.

you also fail to see that there were spiritual hands involved in the bible.

even Isaiah was revealed by the Holy spirit the invention of aeroplanes.
Satan himself reads the bible & tries to twist it in his own favour why won't humans do the same.
but your blindness & I too know wont make you read the bible with understanding & guidance.

keep deceiving yourself with sensory information

flames01:


Forget about hypocrisy or no hypocrisy; sexual immorality should never be traced to a pastor. Never. Once is a mistake, but doing it repeatedly has become a habit.

Have you asked yourself why Adeboye, Kumuyi, Oyedepo or even Adeyemi had never been accused of such before? Why Fatoyinbo always?! Ese accused himhim; now, Busola Dakolo is accusing him; and you think he is innocent?

Check this link to learn more about Randy Fatoyinbo:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1218603504968030&id=932061520288898

derecho:
Friend, I'm not saying a immorality is Okay.I know it should not be named amongst believers but it should not also be encouraged among unbelievers too just as other vices and sins.
It's nauseating to see a fornicator or adulterer condemning another fornicator.
Why do you think Jesus answered those that accused the woman caught in adultery the way He did?He knew they were Hypocrites.
Was Jesus endorsing her sin?No
Apart from the hypocrisies,many of us do not know Busola Dakolo, we only reacted to her interview/allegations.

flames01:


Your desire to defend this obvious shame, do you think it will give you soft landing on judgement day? Stop deceiving yourself. Defending a pervert pastor isn't ticket to heaven.

Read here to purge your ignorance :

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1218603504968030&id=932061520288898

GodSaklek:


Let me enlighten you a bit..

We've comes across their lies and lies of those who changed the writtens of the Bible, See,that jehovah(yahweh) or what do you call it, is the Devil that Bible is talking about,they just hides his misdeeds in the Bible,can I tell u his real name?.

His real name is Nymphidis,he was later renamed as Lucifer,while Allah real name is Largash,he was later renamed as Satan,
Both Largash and Nymphidis are fierce enemies but later becomes allies.

You never know how evil faulkin(yeoshua or Jesus) is?, he was the genesis of this religions things,he's not the first human on earth but first born of all human(Nephilim), i mean he's the first person to be born on earth by the goddess(mother earth),mother earth(earthus) was the goddess in-charge of earth,she came to bein immediately after the creation of earth,she is the most important goddess of earth,she has the most beautiful soul and very kind spirit,she's the mother of all goddess and protector of earth during the time of homo erectus,faulkin is the product between mother earth murmoh(god with black skin), Although mother earth later have other offsprings after faulkin, few of her offsprings are Ares for Atum(god of Egypt during the homo erectus), she also bore twins for Yahweh=Cherubim and Seraphim) etc. faulkin(Jesus) is a nephilm(half god, half homo),he's full of himself, very crafty and smart,he's the one that deceive Brahma of India(later call Abram or Abraham),he's the one that deceive Moses(homo erectus from Egypt) and many more, Faulkin is the fierce enemy of Solomon(Nephilim),mechizedeck(one of the first giant homo with wings,he was created my nymphidis and his wing was created by Largash) etc,Largash was specialise in creating wings,he was the one that creates wing for Nymphidis giant homo(Michael,Gabriel, Mechizedeck etc),Largash was the one that created birds(other gods also creates their own giant homo(first homos before homo erectus).
After several millions of Faulkin was later killed by his adopted father Nymphidis(jehovah) and his seed was placed inside a homo erectus virgin young lady and he was born as homo erectus and later crucified, he was later born in makka as Mohammed after largash(Allah) established himself as the god of makka,Mohamed was killed by Largash himself when he refused to war with Muslim enemies anymore..

Know this, whenever any soul was born into another body, his/her previous life will be wiped away unless if such human get an inspiration by some outside entities(other souls) in their dreams or show them any vision for them to remember but it rare ..since The GOD(the universe) has made everything natural after the end of Homo erectus time,no gods(priests) of GOD can physically visits earth or any other planets anymore, they will have to pass through normal born(born as new baby) process of such planet,if you see anything being coming down from earth, they must be another people from another planet(aliens).


some other gods (priest) was born as homo sapiens( in our own era) and let died normally because they will forget the reason why they are here immediately they were born,and people never recognized them,even some of them knows, they will be scared to say it out because people may see it as blasphemy and put them to death, during the time of homo sapiens, mother earth and some relevant gods was created direct with normal homo sapiens body to guide new homo(sapiens) and they died normally.Jehovah(Nymphidis) has been born,during the time of homo sapiens, maybe 3 or 4 times without archiving any of his aim, Largash(Allah) was born twice,according to writtens.

Faulkin(Jesus) never been born as Homo Sapiens,according to Atum, faulkin was still regretting his actions in early time of the earth,he refused to come to earth or any planets anymore.

adimchisimcard:


A COZA member, Queen Jules Okezie shared photos of herself and friends laughing after the Sunday service which was marred by protest over the rape allegation leveled against Pastor Fatoyinbo.



"So we were in church today laughing our eyes out, protest indeed....the church will stand and the gate of hell shall not prevail." She captioned the photos posted on a popular Facebook page.

Shameless idiots.


Source: https://www.collinsuchendusblog.com/2019/07/we-were-in-church-laughing-our-eyes-out.html?m=1

sisisioge:


It happens...brainwashed lot.

flames01:


A pastor should be the one correcting others and not the one being corrected by others. Read 1Timothy 3:1-7.

If he can't control himself but prefers to live like the other fornicators on the street, then he shouldn't go near the pulpit or form a church.

If you know you want to be a pastor or bishop, the standard of your life must be above that of the common people. Your life MUST BE BLAMELESS!!!

How come you don't know this? When did you study the scriptures last?!

breezy147:


You didn't answer my question o. I asked you did you go to church on Sunday?

sisisioge:

breezy147:


I take that as a no?

sisisioge:


It happens...brainwashed lot.

sisisioge:

Back off vicar...I don't even like ur username

breezy147:


You don't know why I approached you. But I will back off.

Say hi to Bidemi.

sweetrace:
Just stop! I’m a woman who grew up in Nigeria! Of course I know about rape. Do you know how many times men have tried to sleep with me against my own will? Even before I became a teenager! Of course I pushed them off! And I told my mum! Busola’s story does not hold water. How can it be rape when there was no resistance! When the supposed victim kept on going to her alleged rapist? When she remained under his authority as her pastor? If he was her father who was responsible for her, then I’d say she had no where else to go to. But there are thousands of churches in Nigeria she could have gone to, but she remained under the tutelage of her alleged rapist! Haba!!!! I’ve read that she married in the same church and was given a car as a wedding present and she collected it! She was 17 and not 7 when the alleged rape took place and she kept going back for more. My take on this is that Busola is still in love with the pastor and has no room in her heart for Timi. Hence her moodiness and all the crap behavior he described. She compares them all the time and Timi falls short in her eyes. I laugh because an affair is not rape.

laudate:


Please God Almighty gave you a brain. Kindly use it. People react differently when confronted with danger or sexual assault.

Some people will fight back, while others will freeze and become paralysed with fear. So that excuse of "no resistance" that you are reciting, does not hold water. Ask any psychologist or psychiatrist that has handled or counselled rape victims before.

In your case you were able to fight them off. Thank God for your strength. Pray you do not meet an aggressive hefty character who would pin you down, and make nonsense of your so-called strength.

Secondly, she NEVER got married in COZA . She got married in House of The Rock (HOTR). So where did you hear this lie and you decided to recycle it? And when did she receive this fake car, that all of you are making noise about? Must you guys lie, in order to make a point?

adimchisimcard:


A COZA member, Queen Jules Okezie shared photos of herself and friends laughing after the Sunday service which was marred by protest over the rape allegation leveled against Pastor Fatoyinbo.



"So we were in church today laughing our eyes out, protest indeed....the church will stand and the gate of hell shall not prevail." She captioned the photos posted on a popular Facebook page.


Source: https://www.collinsuchendusblog.com/2019/07/we-were-in-church-laughing-our-eyes-out.html?m=1

sweetrace:
I read it right here on Nairaland and Instagram. God gave you a brain, kindly use it. She was paralyzed with fear multiple times, right? Now we have so many pseudo psychiatrists trying to justify Busolas story. Who ever started the car story must have borrowed a leaf from Busola if the story is not true.

laudate:

You read it on Nairaland and Instagram. Did you verify who said it? People on Nairaland have user names. They don't use their real identities. Yet, you just ran with the fake story, and started making false claims with it, and even wrote an epistle to discredit the girl.

The thunder that will fire rumour mongers like you, is still doing press-up at Bar beach. It will not miss your address when it is unleashed.

sweetrace:
Oh my goodness!!! You sound like a self righteous prig. Please show the evidence Busola provided with her accusation of multiple rape stories that you’re here spitting fire on her behalf!!! No evidence, but your groups went to a place of worship to yell insults at people: shouting shameless! Rapist! I watched the video. People who did not care that kids could hear them. No evidence, yet castigating the pastor. Only based on Busola’s word. Did you verify that she was actually raped? Did you see any evidence of the rape? Has it been proven in a competent court of law that the pastor raped her or is popular opinion enough for you? What kind of vicious person is Busola that she did not think of the effect of her actions on his wife, children and even the body of Christ before she took her case to social media instead of the appropriate quarters? Please believe what you will, but know that some of us don’t just depend on inductive reasoning. As for your thunder, it is as harmless as a firefly.

Why many rape victims don’t fight or yell

By James W. Hopper June 23, 2015

James W. Hopper, PhD, is an independent consultant and part-time instructor in psychology in the Department of Psychiatry of Harvard Medical School. He has conducted research on the neurobiology of trauma, and trains investigators, prosecutors, judges, and higher-education professionals on its implications. Here, he offers his explanation of why people don’t always respond to an attack the way others might expect:

In the midst of sexual assault, the brain’s fear circuitry dominates. The prefrontal cortex can be severely impaired, and all that’s left may be reflexes and habits.

In the Washington Post’s recent series on college sexual assault, many victims describe how they reacted – and did not react – while being assaulted.

Another article also published this month, in the Harvard Review of Psychiatry, shows that some responses have been programmed into human brains by evolution.

Bringing together the accounts of those who have been assaulted with the neurobiology of trauma can play an essential role in supporting healing and the pursuits of accountability and justice.

For example, freezing is a brain-based response to detecting danger, especially a predator’s attack. Think deer in the headlights.

As one woman told the Post, “I didn’t say no, but I didn’t really know what to do. I just kind of froze.”

Freezing occurs when the amygdala – a crucial structure in the brain’s fear circuitry – detects an attack and signals the brainstem to inhibit movement. It happens in a flash, automatically and beyond conscious control.

Simultaneously with the freeze response, the fear circuitry unleashes a surge of “stress chemicals” into the prefrontal cortex, the brain region that allows us to think rationally – to recall the bedroom door is open, or that people are in the dorm room next door, for example, and to make use of that information.

But the surge of chemicals rapidly impairs the prefrontal cortex. That’s because, despite our dominant role on the planet now, we evolved as prey, and when a lion or tiger is upon us, stopping to think is fatal.

Indeed, no one understands better than the military that intense fear impairs our prefrontal cortex and capacity for reason.

When bullets are flying and blood is flowing, you had better have some really effective habit learning to rely upon.

That’s why combat training is rigorous and repetitive – to burn in habits of effectively firing weapons, executing combat formations, etc.

Most victims will freeze, if only briefly. Some will fight back, effectively. Some will resist in habitual, passive ways. Some will suddenly give in and cry. Others will become paralyzed, become faint, pass out or dissociate.

Few who have experienced these responses realize that they are brain reactions to attack and terror.

They blame themselves for “failing” to resist. They feel ashamed. (Men especially may see themselves as cowards and feel like they’re not real men.) They may tell no one, even during an investigation. Sadly, many investigators and prosecutors still don’t know some or all of these brain-based responses.

None of these responses – in women or men – entails consent or cowardice.

None is evidence of resistance too insufficient to warrant our respect and compassion.

They are responses we should expect from brains dominated by the circuitry of fear (just as we should expect fragmented and incomplete memories).

May the day come when everyone who knows someone who has been sexually assaulted – which is all of us, whether we know that yet or not – understands these basic ways that our brains can react to such attacks and uses this knowledge to foster healing and justice.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/06/23/why-many-rape-victims-dont-fight-or-yell/?utm_term=.88d44a8a3377

laudate:


When people lack valid facts to support their claims, they get hysterical just like you have done.

The victim came out to tell the full story of how the pastor sexually assaulted her. She did not hide her identity, but said it on video. She gave specific details of each incident, including full descriptions of what transpired between her and the pastor.

What did he do? He issued some watery excuses as a defence and was unable to give a robust refutal to her allegations. And you are here, claiming that it did not happen. Na wa o! You rape apologists are unbelievable.

You even claimed that because she did not scream or fight back, there was no rape. Chai! Why have you refused to use the brain, that God gave you?

On top of that, you alleged that she got married in the same church and got a car from the same man who sexually assaulted her. You did not ask for proof, o. You just believed it and ran with it.

If the same thing had happened to your sister, daughter of close relative, would you have continued reciting these false claims?

Please educate yourself on how the human mind works, when it comes to rape victims, instead of recycling falsehood.



#SayNoToRape a

derecho:
Funny you...let me pretend I don't know those bible verses you quoted.
My point for the umpteenth time is remove the log in your eyes before trying to remove the specks in the eyes of others.I hope you read you Bible well to know you have no right to judge another man's servant.And hope you know not only pastors are called to Holiness?And that a little sin is capable of taking you to hell.NO UNCLEAN THING WILL SEE GOD.
Go find out God's standard in 2Timothy 2:19 and 1John 2:9.

sweetrace:
Say no to false accusations!!! Because she did not hide her identity means she’s telling the truth? Keep quoting psychology that does not apply to Busola. She was paralyzed the first time, and second time and third time... we are waiting for part four of her tales by moonlight. If she was involved in an affair with him, she should be courageous enough to say so instead of this hogwash! One day, she’ll meet her Waterloo.
#say no to false accusations!
# say no to mindless destruction of people’s lives!
#say no to double standards! Busola does not need to procure any evidence, but the rest of us need to abi? Arrant crap!

Why many rape victims don’t fight or yell

By James W. Hopper June 23, 2015

James W. Hopper, PhD, is an independent consultant and part-time instructor in psychology in the Department of Psychiatry of Harvard Medical School. He has conducted research on the neurobiology of trauma, and trains investigators, prosecutors, judges, and higher-education professionals on its implications. Here, he offers his explanation of why people don’t always respond to an attack the way others might expect:

In the midst of sexual assault, the brain’s fear circuitry dominates. The prefrontal cortex can be severely impaired, and all that’s left may be reflexes and habits.

In the Washington Post’s recent series on college sexual assault, many victims describe how they reacted – and did not react – while being assaulted.

Another article also published this month, in the Harvard Review of Psychiatry, shows that some responses have been programmed into human brains by evolution.

Bringing together the accounts of those who have been assaulted with the neurobiology of trauma can play an essential role in supporting healing and the pursuits of accountability and justice.

For example, freezing is a brain-based response to detecting danger, especially a predator’s attack. Think deer in the headlights.

As one woman told the Post, “I didn’t say no, but I didn’t really know what to do. I just kind of froze.”

Freezing occurs when the amygdala – a crucial structure in the brain’s fear circuitry – detects an attack and signals the brainstem to inhibit movement. It happens in a flash, automatically and beyond conscious control.

Simultaneously with the freeze response, the fear circuitry unleashes a surge of “stress chemicals” into the prefrontal cortex, the brain region that allows us to think rationally – to recall the bedroom door is open, or that people are in the dorm room next door, for example, and to make use of that information.

But the surge of chemicals rapidly impairs the prefrontal cortex. That’s because, despite our dominant role on the planet now, we evolved as prey, and when a lion or tiger is upon us, stopping to think is fatal.

Indeed, no one understands better than the military that intense fear impairs our prefrontal cortex and capacity for reason.

When bullets are flying and blood is flowing, you had better have some really effective habit learning to rely upon.

That’s why combat training is rigorous and repetitive – to burn in habits of effectively firing weapons, executing combat formations, etc.

Most victims will freeze, if only briefly. Some will fight back, effectively. Some will resist in habitual, passive ways. Some will suddenly give in and cry. Others will become paralyzed, become faint, pass out or dissociate.

Few who have experienced these responses realize that they are brain reactions to attack and terror.

They blame themselves for “failing” to resist. They feel ashamed. (Men especially may see themselves as cowards and feel like they’re not real men.) They may tell no one, even during an investigation. Sadly, many investigators and prosecutors still don’t know some or all of these brain-based responses.

None of these responses – in women or men – entails consent or cowardice.

None is evidence of resistance too insufficient to warrant our respect and compassion.

They are responses we should expect from brains dominated by the circuitry of fear (just as we should expect fragmented and incomplete memories).

May the day come when everyone who knows someone who has been sexually assaulted – which is all of us, whether we know that yet or not – understands these basic ways that our brains can react to such attacks and uses this knowledge to foster healing and justice.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/06/23/why-many-rape-victims-dont-fight-or-yell/?utm_term