PrecisionFx:
It's part of the usual fake stories I guys have been peddling online...Like

- If he raped her, why did she allow him to officiate their wedding.

- The pastor bought her a car on her wedding

Etc

Oga, it is true that there are too many fake stories online. Fatoyinbo did NOT officiate at Busola's wedding. Busola got married to Dakolo in a totally different church! Fatoyinbo was not there. Even the pastor who wedded them, has come out to verify this. Google is still available!

laudate:

I have tried to educate people like you in the past, about the trauma suffered by rape victims. Such victims may not remember exact dates of their encounter, but will recall the pain and trauma they felt, in clear detail.

The date may not be as important to them, as the encounter. Unless of course, there was something significant that was previously associated with that date, in particular (e.g. a birthday or something else). The human mind works in quite complex ways. And in some cases, certain bits of information are blocked out, as part of a coping mechanism in the victim's mind.

Wow! I love the way you guys are so dogmatic in your support of Busola’s claims. She can’t remember the year she was raped, but she can remember the details!!!!! If this was not about a trajic issue, I would have laughed out loud. It is usually the other way round. Trauma can make one block out hurtful details like a rape not the year. To forget the year one was raped would mean selective amnesia that forgets the year and details of the year.

obinnawhyte:
Not drink by Coca Cola and mind you you're dragging NAFDAC, SON into this without proof. Indirectly you mean Coca Cola sell, circulate or have sometimes have expired products in circulation

Oga, go back and read the news article that Kemi was citing. Krest was withdrawn from the Lagos market only in 2001, and NOT from local markets in other parts of Nigeria. Busola's encounter with Fatoyinbo took place in Ilorin.

laudate:

I have tried to educate people like you in the past, about the trauma suffered by rape victims. Such victims may not remember exact dates of their encounter, but will recall the pain and trauma they felt, in clear detail.

The date may not be as important to them, as the encounter. Unless of course, there was something significant that was previously associated with that date, in particular (e.g. a birthday or something else). The human mind works in quite complex ways. And in some cases, certain bits of information are blocked out, as part of a coping mechanism in the victim's mind.

Did you listen to the audio of Busola on the rape incident? She didnt describe any struggle or resistance to the sexual encounter and claimed they had sex multiple times after the original incident

So if this is statutory rape aka underage sex, When did the rape occur -The year, how old was Busola and Biodun and what was the age of consent in the place where the rape took place

If Busola cannot remember the year, then how can it be proven she was underage

Hahaaaa, this is funny.

1) First rape in 1999 before Pastor got married

2) Second rape in 2002 after Pastor had a baby


Did Busola say this in her interview?
How many 'rapes' happened in between 1999 and 2002?







Use your BRAIN ,no rape in this story!

2mch:
Kemi the dumbo. Rape happened before he was married while second rape happened after he got married.

Believe me, if they stop coca cola production and distribution today, before 2 month, we won't find any of their products in market again. Same thing applicable to krest. We are really talking about what mouth eat ni o. I think the woman is making sense

raumdeuter:
Did you listen to the audio of Busola on the rape incident? She didnt describe any struggle or resistance to the sexual encounter and claimed they had sex multiple times after the original incident

So if this is statutory rape aka underage sex, When did the rape occur -The year, how old was Busola and Biodun and what was the age of consent in the place where the rape took place

If Busola cannot remember the year, then how can it be proven she was underage

Hello sir, she stated that she was going to be 17 years. Kindly watch the video again. She remembered her age. Anyone who knows her current age, can work out which year the rape took place.

Also kindly read up on the psychological impact of rape on its victims as well as rape trauma syndrome, including the effects of dissociation. You would find your answers there.
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Iseniyi:
Believe me, if they stop coca cola production and distribution today, before 2 month, we won't find any of their products in market again. Same thing applicable to krest. We are really talking about what mouth eat ni o. I think the woman is making sense

She is NOT making sense. The sale of Krest was stopped in Lagos only, not in other parts of the country. Go back and read the news article again.

laudate:


Hello sir, she stated that she was going to be 17 years. Kindly watch the video again. She remembered her age. Anyone who knows her current age, can work out which year the rape took place.

Also kindly read up on the psychological impact of rape on its victims as well as rape trauma syndrome, including the effects of dissociation. You would find your answers there.

If she remembers her age, that will tell the year it happened. If Busola was born in 1982, she was sure it happened when she was 17, that means that the rape happened in 1999, the other sexual incident she said happened when she was babysitting the daughter who was born in 2002

She said it was rape but the description of the event didn't portray her resisting, unlike most rape victim. And given that the incident sexual encounter still occurred after

If this is statutory rape, then there must be a well-defined age of consent in the location where this occurred. So what was the age of consent in Ilorin Kwara State

The case to me looks like there was a sexual relationship between Biodun and Busola for several years even when she was an adult

I don't think she forgot anything.

1) I strongly think she first had sex with Fatoyinbo in 1999 but thereafter became his girlfriend and they continued to have sex till when he got married and had a baby in 2002.

2) Busola most likely twisted the story to fit into a case of 'rape' by moulding several amorous and sexual espades together

OR

The events actually happened in 2002 but she backdated it in order to nail the pastor of Statutory rape if 'her lack of consent' can't be proved.

SSAwhistleblowe:


Not supporting Fatoyinbo but Busola said the second rape happened days after the first one like within the same week...pls watch the video again...


KEMI may not be alright but the issues she has raised about the year of the rape and Busola’s age as well as when she went to babysit Biodun’s baby are conflicting considering Biodun’s daughter’s age.

I know Busola would not be foolish to make wrong accusations but some of the details are contradictory and she may have mixed up some details because it happened a long time ago.


But then she really should have gotten her facts right before making the accusation...


Busola’s age issue and the baby’s issue are strong areas that Fatoyinbo’s lawyers could capitalise on to scuttle facts in court... it’s a grave error on her part

raumdeuter:
If she remembers her age, that will tell the year it happened. If Busola was born in 1982, she was sure it happened when she was 17, that means that the rape happened in 1999, the other sexual incident she said happened when she was babysitting the daughter who was born in 2002

She said it was rape but the description of the event didn't portray her resisting, unlike most rape victim. And given that the incident sexual encounter still occurred after

If this is statutory rape, then there must be a well-defined age of consent in the location where this occurred. So what was the age of consent in Ilorin Kwara State

The case to me looks like there was a sexual relationship between Biodun and Busola for several years even when she was an adult

You are saying "if Busola was born in 1982..." Are you stating a fact or just guessing?

And the fact that a person did not resist, does not mean she gave consent. She may have been paralysed with fear, or shock could have rendered her immobile. That was why I asked you to read up on the psychological effects of rape, on the human mind. Kindly do so. Maybe this will explain it better.

laudate:
People react differently when confronted with danger or sexual assault.

Some people will fight back, while others will freeze and become paralysed with fear. So that excuse of "no resistance" that you are reciting, does not hold water. Ask any psychologist or psychiatrist that has handled or counselled rape victims before. ......

As for the age of legal consent in Ilorin, kindly direct that question to lawyers who practice in that jurisdiction. They might have a better answer for you....

Do you think Lawyers are stupid?
If they want to get your age, all they need to do is to investigate your life properly and not to look at just an affidavit of birth.

The time of Fatoyinbo's wedding, the school his daughter started schooling with age and other important life events can corroborate her age.

sparko1:


If they can proof that why do you think they will come online in the first place when the case is already in court, there are lot of people with affidavit of birth, don't be fouled anything can happen, that is not a proof of any kind its just a way of testing their theory in the eye of the public to know how acceptable it will be in court.

femi4:
Go back and watch the video from the beginning. It was when the club turned into a Church that the second rape happened.

After the message, Pastor Bioudun Fatoyinbo preached, he came to meet me after the service, then it wasn’t COZA, it was called Divine Delight Club and he wasn’t married yet but he was engaged to his present wife

Egbon u are getting it wrong,just go to d previous thread about dis issue, u will c a link to linda ikejis blog where u will read d whole interview, I've been trying 2 post d link but its not working

Iamgrey5:
@ emboldened

Yet another "what if"

Let the pastor come out with his own version of the story before you create one for him.

The pastor does not need to join words with her in public. There are ways to tackle such matters. Whatever I and you say won't matter in the end. All this noise and crucifixion on social media will not count afterall. Let's just wait and see how things pan out.

oyatz:
I don't think she forgot anything.

1) I strongly think she first had sex with Fatoyinbo in 1999 but thereafter became his girlfriend and they continued to have sex till when he got married and had a baby in 2002.

2) Busola most likely twisted the story to fit into a case of 'rape' by moulding several amorous and sexual espades together
OR
The events actually happened in 2002 but she backdated it in order to nail the pastor of Statutory rape if 'her lack of consent' can't be proved.

This is my line of thought as well,

She had a crush on him, he used that to chance her which she didnt object and Given that they had sex multiple times, and she even became a member of his church and continued having sexual affair with him when he was married

Biodun being a "Pastor" cannot readily own up to extramarital affair with Busola since its morally wrong

The statutory rape angle, no one has been able to tell the age of consent in Kwara State as of 1999

oyatz:
I don't think she forgot anything.

1) I strongly think she first had sex with Fatoyinbo in 1999 but thereafter became his girlfriend and they continued to have sex till when he got married and had a baby in 2002.

2) Busola most likely twisted the story to fit into a case of 'rape' by moulding several amorous and sexual espades together

OR

The events actually happened in 2002 but she backdated it in order to nail the pastor of Statutory rape if 'her lack of consent' can't be proved.

If that was the case then she wasn’t smart about it ... did she forget Fatoyinbo’s baby girl’s age, which he had after years of waiting for the fruit of the womb would count against her... if she indeed twisted facts to achieve her aim then she wasn’t smart... I also noticed how her husband has been silent since holes started getting punched into her story... her hunter may eventually become the hunted and she may be the one to eventually apologize to Fatoyinbo ... that is what happens when you don’t do things smartly or think things through before acting.

laudate:


You are saying "if Busola was born in 1982..." Are you stating a fact or just guessing?

And the fact that a person did not resist, does not mean she gave consent. She may have been paralysed with fear, or shock could have rendered her immobile. That was why I asked you to read up on the psychological effects of rape, on the human mind. Kindly do so. Maybe this will explain it better.

People who knew her stated she was born around 1982, I don't know for a fact since I haven't seen her birth cert or interviewed her family members, I was just describing how you can know the year the incident happened if you know her age and her DOB

How do you know someone didn't give her consent when she didn't resist or say NO

When Busola described in her video she said "I didn't struggle, I just let him, he brought out his dick, pulled down my panties"

raumdeuter:
People who knew her stated she was born around 1982, I don't know for a fact since I haven't seen her birth cert or interviewed her family members, I was just describing how you can know the year the incident happened if you know her age and her DOB

How do you know someone didn't give her consent when she didn't resist or say NO

When Busola described in her video she said "I didn't struggle, I just let him, he brought out his dick, pulled down my panties"

Oga, her silence does not mean she gave consent. I had explained to you earlier that some people get paralysed with fear or shock when faced with a rape situation.

Maybe the explanation by this psychologist would clarify things better.

Why many rape victims don’t fight or yell

By James W. Hopper June 23, 2015

James W. Hopper, PhD, is an independent consultant and part-time instructor in psychology in the Department of Psychiatry of Harvard Medical School. He has conducted research on the neurobiology of trauma, and trains investigators, prosecutors, judges, and higher-education professionals on its implications. Here, he offers his explanation of why people don’t always respond to an attack the way others might expect:

In the midst of sexual assault, the brain’s fear circuitry dominates. The prefrontal cortex can be severely impaired, and all that’s left may be reflexes and habits.

In the Washington Post’s recent series on college sexual assault, many victims describe how they reacted – and did not react – while being assaulted.

Another article also published this month, in the Harvard Review of Psychiatry, shows that some responses have been programmed into human brains by evolution.

Bringing together the accounts of those who have been assaulted with the neurobiology of trauma can play an essential role in supporting healing and the pursuits of accountability and justice.

For example, freezing is a brain-based response to detecting danger, especially a predator’s attack. Think deer in the headlights.

As one woman told the Post, “I didn’t say no, but I didn’t really know what to do. I just kind of froze.”

Freezing occurs when the amygdala – a crucial structure in the brain’s fear circuitry – detects an attack and signals the brainstem to inhibit movement. It happens in a flash, automatically and beyond conscious control.

Simultaneously with the freeze response, the fear circuitry unleashes a surge of “stress chemicals” into the prefrontal cortex, the brain region that allows us to think rationally – to recall the bedroom door is open, or that people are in the dorm room next door, for example, and to make use of that information.

But the surge of chemicals rapidly impairs the prefrontal cortex. That’s because, despite our dominant role on the planet now, we evolved as prey, and when a lion or tiger is upon us, stopping to think is fatal.

Indeed, no one understands better than the military that intense fear impairs our prefrontal cortex and capacity for reason.

When bullets are flying and blood is flowing, you had better have some really effective habit learning to rely upon.

That’s why combat training is rigorous and repetitive – to burn in habits of effectively firing weapons, executing combat formations, etc.

Most victims will freeze, if only briefly. Some will fight back, effectively. Some will resist in habitual, passive ways. Some will suddenly give in and cry. Others will become paralyzed, become faint, pass out or dissociate.

Few who have experienced these responses realize that they are brain reactions to attack and terror.

They blame themselves for “failing” to resist. They feel ashamed. (Men especially may see themselves as cowards and feel like they’re not real men.) They may tell no one, even during an investigation. Sadly, many investigators and prosecutors still don’t know some or all of these brain-based responses.

None of these responses – in women or men – entails consent or cowardice.

None is evidence of resistance too insufficient to warrant our respect and compassion.

They are responses we should expect from brains dominated by the circuitry of fear (just as we should expect fragmented and incomplete memories).

May the day come when everyone who knows someone who has been sexually assaulted – which is all of us, whether we know that yet or not – understands these basic ways that our brains can react to such attacks and uses this knowledge to foster healing and justice.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/06/23/why-many-rape-victims-dont-fight-or-yell/?utm_term=.88d44a8a3377

If you want to fvck a lady and she didn't resist, how will you know she is not consenting to it?
How will she prove it in court that she didn't give consent?

laudate:


You are saying "if Busola was born in 1982..." Are you stating a fact or just guessing?

And the fact that a person did not resist, does not mean she gave consent. She may have been paralysed with fear, or shock could have rendered her immobile. That was why I asked you to read up on the psychological effects of rape, on the human mind. Kindly do so. Maybe this will explain it better.



As for the age of legal consent in Ilorin, kindly direct that question to lawyers who practice in that jurisdiction. They might have a better answer for you....

I don't think she consulted many experienced married people and lawyer's before going to the Social media for that interview. There are many loopholes in her story.

I also think she did the interview to massage her husband's bruised ego and bitterness towards Fatoyinbo for enjoying what he ought to enjoy and still have the gut to be forming 'successful pastor' upandan.

SSAwhistleblowe:



If that was the case then she wasn’t smart about it ... did she forget Fatoyinbo’s baby girl’s age, which he had after years of waiting for the fruit of the womb would count against her... if she indeed twisted facts to achieve her aim then she wasn’t smart... I also noticed how her husband has been silent since holes started getting punched into her story... her hunter may eventually become the hunted and she may be the one to eventually apologize to Fatoyinbo ... that is what happens when you don’t do things smartly or think things through before acting.

oyatz:
I don't think she consulted many experienced married people and lawyer's before going to the Social media for that interview. There are many loopholes in her story.

I also think she did the interview to massage her husband's bruised ego and bitterness towards Fatoyinbo for enjoying what he ought to enjoy and still have the gut to be forming 'successful pastor' upandan.

Then they might pay dearly for it but let’s see how it pans out.

mickykhe:
In as much as i dont really like dis woman kemi, but she do make necessary investigation and revelations on most topics, this is good journalism in her own part.

The woman is daft, simple & short.

I still drank Krest after I left University & that was after 2004.

The website only said they had started withdrawing Krest from "Lagos" in 2001 to allow for another brand to sell. It didn't affect other parts of the country.

laudate:

Oga, go back and read the news article that Kemi was citing. Krest was withdrawn from the Lagos market only in 2001, and NOT from local markets in other parts of Nigeria. Busola's encounter with Fatoyinbo took place in Ilorin.

Hope you can hear yourself " krest was withdrawn from Lagos market only in 2001 and where's your own article showing it was not withdrew from other markets. And how's Lagos market different from the other market that you term others local or it's the Krest exported from Lagos?

GumGum:
This old woman, in a bid to show she is a journalist, always commits herself into erroneous conclusions. The Krest drinking from Busola's interview was not while she was babysitting but at her house. This Kemi Olunloyo should get her facts right before talking like a lunatic.

Are you having issues with her comment because is Kemi or you don't just want to look deep before concluding?...
I know soonest and some day the truth will definitely come out but so far the story by Busola doesn't add up so any info around to help unravel this issue should be welcomed and look into at least.
From my end there's a bit sense from her post giving more insight to this issue making many think

Lol... This Kemi story no tally o
If truly that krest drink is a sperm killer, Shey biodun wey Sabi the work no go stock pile am? You think say him go dey wait make the drink scarce? Himself go be mini Distributor self.
#justsaying

Buckubuck:

UK banned our Fanta recently. The response NBC gave was that Fanta is for Nigeria not UK

You see am. Rubbish Nonsense!!!

Godyke:
Madam KEMI, you are not making any sense in this one. Is it not possible to stop production of a product in December of 2001 and the last batch still being in circulation in January of 2002? Stop fooling yourself and stop complicating issues.

Don't mind her , I suspect this her support of Biodun soon now she will use style and beg for money Busola know kuku get money to give her so why would she support her.
Even speedy biscuit sef at times I used to see it in the market but is not like before when it use to be sweet and here this one is talking nonsense old fool.

tumababa:


She wanted an interview and was not given. Decided to go for the jocular.... nigerian bloggers...

*Jugular*

Godyke:
Madam KEMI, you are not making any sense in this one. Is it not possible to stop production of a product in December of 2001 and the last batch still being in circulation in January of 2002? Stop fooling yourself and stop complicating issues.

and is it not possible that before stopping the circulation of the product that the have withdrawn all the batch goods in in circulation ..oga keep quite

sniper has been banned but still in the market

obinnawhyte:
Hope you can hear yourself " krest was withdrawn from Lagos market only in 2001 and where's your own article showing it was not withdrew from other markets. And how's Lagos market different from the other market that you term others local or it's the Krest exported from Lagos?

Na wa, o! The newspaper article carried that information and it was very explicit. Can't you see the explanation there, or should I borrow you my contact lenses, so that you can read it clearly?

oyatz:
If you want to fvck a lady and she didn't resist, how will you know she is not consenting to it?
How will she prove it in court that she didn't give consent?

Ask the judge when you get to court. Chikena!