What exactly are you saying?

OtemAtum:
Science is the way. Within few years of their existence, see what the world had turned into. Jehovah, Allah and the rest of the gods of the world were here for thousands of years but they couldn't invent anything reasonable.

Give glory to science for changing the world.

Pivadesh 2: 1- 24

1. Religion had been allowed to prevail from the first year of the homo sapiens era to the 282,000th year of the homo sapiens era (spanning 282,000 years) but the world could not invent anything good with it.
2. It could neither invent paper nor pen. It could only invent war and strife.
3. It could neither invent barometer nor periscope, but it could only invent noises and riots.
4. It could neither invent microphone nor loudspeaker, but it could only invent false miracles and lies.
5. It could neither invent penicillin nor panadol, but it could only invent confusion and hatred.
6. It could neither invent scissors and selotape, but it could only invent gods and false witnesses.
7. It could neither invent telescope and thermometer, but it could only invent evil and wickedness.
8. It could neither mint paper money nor coins, but it could invent poverty and austerity.
9. It could neither mine gold nor refine petroleum, but it could invent lying stories and superstitions.
10. It could neither save lives nor cure sicknesses, but it could only endanger lives and cause insecurity.
11. It could neither increase true knowledge of nature nor help to define the nature of God Almighty, but it could only corrupt the laws of nature and falsify the nature of God Almighty.
12. It could neither breed peace nor bring world development, but it could breed terrorism and poverty of minds.
13. It could neither improve eyesight nor help in giving birth, but it could dim the mind and cause infanticide.
14. It could neither invent a paradise on earth nor peace of mind, but it could only invent hell fire in the mind and fear of afterlives.
15. It could neither invent rocket nor aeroplane, but it could only invent rapture and judgement day doom.
16. Science was not allowed to be freely practised until about 300 years ago, so it had spanned barely 300 years of free practice.
16. It has invented hydrometer and thermometer. It has also invented barometer, chronometer and photometer.
17. It has invented periscope, stethoscope, telescope and kaleidoscope. It has invented Spectroheliograph and seismograph, phonograph and addressograph.
18. It has also invented telephone, gramophone, megaphone and microphone.
19. It has invented ship, submarine, ferry, yacht and speedboat. It has also invented jet, aeroplane, helicopter and rocket.
20. It has invented fax machine, typewriter, printing machine and photocopier machine. It has also invented radio, television, video players, compact disk and memory cards.
21. It has invented camera, scanner, calculator, clock and tape recorder. It has also invented compact disk, diskette and memory card.
22. It has invented monocycle, bicycle, tricycle and automobile. It has also invented electricity, solar panel, power generator, inverter and incinerator.
23. It has invented computer, electric bell, electronic book, electric guitar, electric stove, electric blanket and electric sewing machine.
24. It has also invented toaster, soldering iron, pressing iron and rework station.

frickyjohn:

What exactly are you saying?

It's a long story but I'll break it down for you. Billions of years ago, God Almighty brought the universes to physical existence. Then also some beings were brought to physical existence. Some of the beings brought to physical existence by God Almighty were Jehovah, Allah, Vishnu, Atum, Moloch, Odin, Nzame, Chukwu, Abassi, El, Enki, Enlil, Mazda and millions other. Then God Almighty sent them all to go and explore the universes. Some of these beings began what we call religions today. Jehovah began Judaism, Allah began Islam, Vishnu began Hinduism, etc.

However some of these beings have come to the realisation that exploration of the universes(science) is the way forward rather than the invention of religions which they have spent millions of years doing. Only science can help us to understand the nature of existence.

Currently as I speak, the beings who wanted science as the tool for understanding the universes have captured the beings who wanted religion to continue to thrive. Now Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Mazda and many thousands of beings of religions are captured in a spiritual cage in order for the world to continue to experience mind evolution from religion to science.

OtemAtum:

Currently as I speak, the beings who wanted science as the tool for understanding the universes have captured the beings who wanted religion to continue to thrive. Now Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Mazda and many thousands of beings of religions are captured in a spiritual cage in order for the world to continue to experience mind evolution from religion to science.

How is it possible for those gods to be captured? Is any (scientific) principle applied? And when did the capturing take place specifically? Like how many years ago?

gensteejay:

How is it possible for those gods to be captured? Is any (scientific) principle applied? And when did the capturing take place specifically? Like how many years ago?

There are still many principles earth scientists haven't discovered. For example, higher beings can compress things into vacuums, but our scientists can't do such things at this point in time. That doesn't mean that they wouldn't be able to do it forever. You know, science is dynamic, so what they're clueless about today can eventually become their saving grace tomorrow.
The capture was first done millions of years back. Then again it was done exactly 2 years, 11 months and 6 days earth time ago.

OtemAtum:

There are still many principles earth scientists haven't discovered. For example, higher beings can compress things into vacuums, but our scientists can't do such things at this point in time. That doesn't mean that they wouldn't be able to do it forever. You know, science is dynamic, so what they're clueless about today can eventually become their saving grace tomorrow.
The capture was first done millions of years back. Then again it was done exactly 2 years, 11 months and 6 days earth time ago.

Is there any way you can prove that these gods were actually captured to the average human?

gensteejay:

Is there any way you can prove that these gods were actually captured to the average human?

I can prove it to those who believe that their gods can move a thing by invoking them in prayers. For now that's all I can do.

OtemAtum:


I can prove it to those who believe that their gods can move a thing by invoking them in prayers. For now that's all I can do.

Ok, thanks.

Waiting for more updates on the main thread.

Gbemishile1:

Bros,whether u believe it or not is not my problem

Breastfeeding a grown-up has no effect, because the breastfeeding which has an effect (of creating the relationship of mahram) is that which consists of five feedings or more within the first two years, before weaning. On this basis, if it happened that someone breastfed from his wife or drank her milk, he does not become her son. Fataawa Islamiyah, 3/338. And Allaah knows best.

two years is the period by which prohibition by suckling is validated; therefore, suckling that took place within this period validates the prohibition by suckling; whereas, no suckling should be taken into account after the period of two years.

Aisha said:" Once the Prophet (PBUH) came to me while a man was in my house. He said, "O `Aisha! Who is this (man)?" I replied, "My foster brother" He said, "O `Aisha! Be sure about your foster brothers, as fostership is only valid if it takes place in the suckling period (before two years of age).{Bukhari}.

most of the companions, who were acquainted with the context of the story and its events, understood it as a special concession for Salim because he was raised as their son and was treated as one. However, when adoption was prohibited and Salim became a stranger to that family, Allah has given him that concession. This is why in some narrations it was said that he saw from Sahla what a son is permitted to see from his own mother. Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (PBUH), used to say that all wives of Allah's Apostle (PBUH) disclaimed the idea that one with this type of fosterage (having been suckled after the proper period) should come to them. and said to 'A'isha: By Allah, we do not find this but a sort of concession given by Allah's Messenger (PBUH) only for Salim, and no one was going to be allowed to enter (our houses) with this type of fosterage and we do not subscribe to this view."{Muslim}. It is worth mentioning that Salim wasn`t directly breastfed from Sahla because this is definitely prohibited; rather, the milk was given to him from a pot. Ibn Abdulrahman said: "The suckling of the two years old and more was done by giving him the milk from a pot since direct breastfeeding isn`t permissible according to the learned men of the faith."{Al-Istizkar,6/255}. And Allah knows best.

What about hasfa? What about Fatima as earlier said?
Was it only Salim that enjoyed this priveledge? Surely your Allah knows best!

A big question... Do you suckle from a pot?

Just admit that your learned scholars are trying to find a way out but fell flat with alibis as they do in all discussion.

See Muhammed instituted it. When Aisha told him that he is a grown man.. the man said laughing .. i know .. this is unacceptable.

So let stop here as I haven't gained a jot since discussion started

Realbarc:


What about hasfa? What about Fatima as earlier said?
Was it only Salim that enjoyed this priveledge? Surely your Allah knows best!

A big question... Do you suckle from a pot?

Just admit that your learned scholars are trying to find a way out but fell flat with alibis as they do in all discussion.

See Muhammed instituted it. When Aisha told him that he is a grown man.. the man said laughing .. i know .. this is unacceptable.

So let stop here as I haven't gained a jot since discussion started

I wouldn't want you to,cus ur religion and ideology is different from mine
Suckling of a child starts from birth and end after two years.that us the established rule in islam.for as long as the man is able to cater for the wife.this period is the establish relationship between the mother and the child.anythung after two years is not acceptable and not practiced.it is so common a knowledge that you do not even need to go to Arabic school to learn it.
The issue if suckling in the quran is two full years.that is what we Muslims follow
Your fatwa,because Aisha did this or that does not concern me