Dedetwo:


You looked ridiculous in a silly attempt to appear smart. Which history book informed your skewed knowledge base that Yoruba defeated Fulani even in wrestling match talk less of a war? Oyo Empire's seat of power was at Oyo Ile, 30 miles north of Ilorin. The Caliphate and their Nupe foot soldiers drove Yoruba to southern Nigeria hence replacing Awori people in Ile Ife. Places like Ogbomosho and Osogbo became vacation points for Caliphate soldiers and their ominous machination to create a mixture of ethnicity in Yoruba land. The Caliphate dreams to head southeast from present day Kogi State was rudely awaken by the little skirmishes with Igbo people of Akagbe. The jungle massacre given to the Caliphate soldiers forced them to beat a hasty retreat and totally erased any attempt to head toward southeast.

Please be informed!

The Jalumi War, also called the Battle of Ikirun, was a battle that took place on 1 November 1878 in the north east of present-day Osun State, Nigeria. It was part of the larger conflict named the Ibadan War. The forces of Ibadan victorious in detail a force of rebellious Yorubas including soldiers from Ilorin, Ekiti, Ila and Ijesha. Despite the victory, fighting continued in the years that followed until the Ilorins were finally defeated in 1897

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalumi_War


Following a jihad (known as the Fulani War) led by Uthman Dan Fodio (1754–1817) and a rapid consolidation of the Hausa city-states of contemporary northern Nigeria, the Fulani Sokoto Caliphate annexed the buffer Nupe Kingdom and began to press southwards towards the Oyo Empire. Shortly after, they overran the Yoruba city of Ilorin and then sacked Ọyọ-Ile, the capital city of the Oyo Empire. Further attempts by the Sokoto Caliphate to expand southwards were checked by the Yoruba who had rallied to resist under the military leadership of the city-state of Ibadan, which rose from the old Oyo Empire, and of the Ijebu city-states.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorubaland


And I will be glad if you can provide an evidence of how Igbos halted Fulani invasion at present day kogi! Thanks in advance

RealLordZeus:

Please be informed!


[b]The Jalumi War, also called the Battle of Ikirun, was a battle that took place on 1 November 1878 in the north east of present-day Osun State, [/b]Nigeria. It was part of the larger conflict named the Ibadan War. The forces of Ibadan victorious in detail a force of rebellious Yorubas including soldiers from Ilorin, Ekiti, Ila and Ijesha. Despite the victory, fighting continued in the years that followed until the Ilorins were finally defeated in 1897

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalumi_War


Following a jihad (known as the Fulani War) led by Uthman Dan Fodio (1754–1817) and a rapid consolidation of the Hausa city-states of contemporary northern Nigeria, the Fulani Sokoto Caliphate annexed the buffer Nupe Kingdom and began to press southwards towards the Oyo Empire. Shortly after, they overran the Yoruba city of Ilorin and then sacked Ọyọ-Ile, the capital city of the Oyo Empire. Further attempts by the Sokoto Caliphate to expand southwards were checked by the Yoruba who had rallied to resist under the military leadership of the city-state of Ibadan, which rose from the old Oyo Empire, and of the Ijebu city-states.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorubaland


And I will be glad if you can provide an evidence of how Igbos halted Fulani invasion at present day kogi! Thanks in advance

Did I not mention Osogbo? Yoruba could have won a battle but lost the war. The winning a battle of Ikirun to slow down the Caliphate march to Eko does not amount to anything. Entire present day Kwara State had been lost including all the Yoruba territories that stretched to the present Kogi State. I never wrote that Igbo stopped Caliphate march at Kogi State because the Caliphate had already subdued the people in the areas or made them vassal states of Caliphate. It was the attempt of Caliphate to move into southeast from certain places in present Kogi State that met fierce resistance from Igbo people especially the Akagbe people. By the way, Oye -Ile came before Ilorin in the war path of Sokoto Caliphate.

Dedetwo:


What crap is everybody saying? I believed that test of pudding is in the eating. Nigeria is about to clock 59 years of miserable existence yet nothing to show for it. It is high time Nigeria disintegrated so that emerging nation states should be given a try at progressiveness. Nigeria cannot continue this useless trend forever.

Then if they turn out worst we become stranded?

One-Nigeria heritage fraud and clever contrivance devised by W/European &N/American powers and principalities to fail perpetually and a kakistocrat... Of Nig.wt bad people leading it since 1972 to date who see it as national cake,and booty to loot mentality and based on the foulest Constitution... Miseducated, misinformed and colomentality Onyeama must learn to know dat Nigeria(ns) must break up before it can know peace and great development...

Area4Area:
Yes there was the Araba riots in the north for secession and who quelled it and forced them to remain Nigerians in 1966? Who quelled the declaration of the newly formed Niger Delta republic same year?

Seccesion Riots by killing of Innocent souls from the east ? It is the killings that was quelled and by the way the reason for the killings (araba) was not marGinalisation but that the north felt they can't be part of a Nigeria ruled by the more educated south.

madenigga:

Then if they turn out worst we become stranded?

Ndigbo are not goons to become stranded in their nation state. Have you asked yourself why there is feverish opposition to Biafra? If the opponents of Biafra slightly assumed that Biafrans would be stranded if granted the wish to form a nation state, the opponents which included British would have granted the wish for posterity sake.

This guy wan join politics

Dedetwo:


Ndigbo are not goons to become stranded in their nation state. Have you asked yourself why there is feverish opposition to Biafra? If the opponents of Biafra slightly assumed that Biafrans would be stranded if granted the wish to form a nation state, the opponents which included British would have granted the wish for posterity sake.

Let's argue constructively and reasonably am an Igbo guy, so don't run I want y to convince me on how Biafra will be viable and how it would thrive, run and operate.

How would Biafra fund its governance.

muykem:
It's struggling youth of south east that's calling for Biafra. Their rich people have tasted the good side of Nigeria, they are ready to lead Nigeria army against those youth.

You are so right , the lazy youths from all the major tribes think dividing the nation would solve their problems. Instead it would make it worse , lazy is lazy and poverty goes with it.

The issue in Nigeria is lack of intelligence.
The northerners are Arab worshipping Islamic oriented folks but Arabic countries have anti black sentiments.
The Southerners are western loving folks who embrace western liberal ideals but in the west there's also a lot of anti black sentiments.

Blacks in general want to be everything but themselves. Self hate is the result of a low iq group, because it's easy to socially re engineer the mind of the gullible.

LZAA post=82646233[s:
]Afamed and gwarotango just want ruga
BMC keep screaming ipob upandan
Nothing is united
Sai igbo domination
Cc immhotep sarrki GMBuharii Adaibeku simplyleo[/s]

Sai RUGA

gwarotango:
Sai RUGA

Cc lzaa sarrki GMBuharii Adaibeku simplyleo

oilPUSSY:


As regards to Onyema's comment about Biafra, even the world leaders have said many things about the unity of many countries that have broken up today..

So who the hell is Onyema?
Or is he pressing mumu button of some people by telling them what they want to hear?

Bro.... to the point of his message... that if united Nigeria can be greater than all the European countries put together.... why is the statement a foolish one? He has given reasons to support his statement.... what reasons do you have to oppose it? Can you focus on the message and not the messenger?

[quote author=35824L post=82629709] Bia.frogs will hate this man now. [/quotie]t these are the real face Africa race so unreasonable and quick to jump to thread with reasoning

We understand you sir

1 Nigeria KO 2
two nigerian No...pls let's us spilt, the northerners are bunch of ugly illiterate disgrace devoid of sense but we'll endowed with religious violence, poverty and of course absolute backwardness

not anymore,Bleep you Mr for saying that,so because you used your tokunbo plane to fly back Nigeria from south,you now feel you have right to talk

That's what separatists do not know. Everyone is looking for numbers to become an economic giant either by controlled internal growth of multilateral states' coalition and some who don't know want to break one of the only few things going for naija.

Oil alone can't bring development. Infact it's usually the opposite. For Dubai oil was jist the startup capital to build some of the premium real estates on earth.

Saudi has a thriving sovereign fund with investments in citibank to softbank of Japan

This is the most stupid and foolish statement I have heard and will ever hear . This guy is completely a fool

This one smart dude. He steelping into the vast and endless market that foreigners have taking advantage; fcking airmaroc and co.

He just need to international. He is a visionary and it us the kind of people fcking Africa needs.

Maintenance and affordability are the keys.

I hope were not told to say that to Nigeria because that what southerners are for? What stops you from contesting from the East? United Nigeria, should other regions remain slaves, am sure you are not from Ebonyi who is always saying yes even when gun is on the neck of his citizens.

Watch as his ppl would reject and insult him.

True!

Racoon:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenationonlineng.net/nigeria-is-two-countries-in-one-backward-north-developing-south-says-el-rufai/amp/

This is the obvious fraud the British knew about but went ahead to force us into an unacceptable contraption called Nigeria where brutes arrogantly feel it's their fiefdom to dominate.

Yet proponents of this fraud keep on tell us that the unity of Nigeria is non-negotiable.Lord Lugard it will never be well with you.

Forget it.Even the hausa-fulani know that Nigeria is a fraudulent contraption of the British.

sStop blaming Lugard, he did what he had to do for his country. Blame Zik and Ironsi.

Don't allow the respect we Accord to you to fall inside the gutter... Tell me how else did you want us to unite, while the ppl associating with us are killing us, maiming us, rapping our women, destorying properties, and so on. I hope you are more than 50 years... Tell me what unity has brought to us all this while. If you wanna be United with nizooeria, you can go ahead with your family along

muykem:
It's struggling youth of south east that's calling for Biafra. Their rich people have tasted the good side of Nigeria, they are ready to lead Nigeria army against those youth.

I suppose it was struggling youths that fought against the British so you can answer your Nigger Area identity in peace in 1960 abi?

I suppose it was the struggling youths that continued to overthrow governements, including Buhari in 1983 abi?

I suppose struggling youths like Christ, crucified at 33, or Muhammed were jokers abi?

You should be ashamed that an old semi illiterate is ruling you...

In Biafra we stand

Godsonjoe:
Don't allow the respect we Accord to you to fall inside the gutter... Tell me how else did you want us to unite, while the ppl associating with us are killing us, maiming us, rapping our women, destorying properties, and so on. I hope you are more than 50 years... Tell me what unity has brought to us all this while. If you wanna be United with nizooeria, you can go ahead with your family along

Sometimes our people get overwhelmed in emotions and fanfare....He means well and perhaps IS right, but not as Nigeria is currently setup. An independence Biafra can always padi up with others for the benefit of all.

We have 0 business being with Fulani people, and frankly our value system and VALUES are quite different from Yoruba at least politically.

You ended up twisting history. How did you skip the part of history that detailed the end of their siege on Oshogbo? What about the boundary mark at ASA in Ilorin? This your Akagbe story is new and unfounded. The only blockade to the East were the Yorubas of the West and the Tiv warriors of Benue. Without these formidable forces and the resilient Edo warriors, Igboland would have fallen like a pack of cards.

Dedetwo:


You looked ridiculous in a silly attempt to appear smart. Which history book informed your skewed knowledge base that Yoruba defeated Fulani even in wrestling match talk less of a war? Oyo Empire's seat of power was at Oyo Ile, 30 miles north of Ilorin. The Caliphate and their Nupe foot soldiers drove Yoruba to southern Nigeria hence replacing Awori people in Ile Ife. Places like Ogbomosho and Osogbo became vacation points for Caliphate soldiers and their ominous machination to create a mixture of ethnicity in Yoruba land. The Caliphate dreams to head southeast from present day Kogi State was rudely awaken by the little skirmishes with Igbo people of Akagbe. The jungle massacre given to the Caliphate soldiers forced them to beat a hasty retreat and totally erased any attempt to head toward southeast.

ZZ22:
They say doing same thing over and over again expecting different result is stupidity.
Nigeria has existed for more than 50 years instead of progressing she retrogress at an alarming speed. Nobody has come up with reasonable answer why Nigeria should continue to exist but there are thousands of reason why this fraud of a country should be disbanded

So Nigeria is ''retrogressing with alarming speed''? Mumu. Could your grandfather or great grandfather or mother read or write?

Could they travel beyond the nearest town?

Did they drive?

Did they know what expressway or airport means? Or have phones?

Could they start multi million dollar businesses from nothing like Jumia or INNOSON or Dangote?

Could they even decide to leave the country for 'greener pastures'? Could they name three advanced countries? Or have any transferable skills they could use abroad?

Did they even know the way to the airport? Was there even any airport nearby for them to fly out from?

But today YOU have all these things and opportunities in abundance courtesy of INDEPENDENCE and consequent DEVELOPMENT, yet think you have ''regressed alarmingly''.

I don't blame you. After all when some people eat too much they turn stupid.

madenigga:

Let's argue constructively and reasonably am an Igbo guy, so don't run I want y to convince me on how Biafra will be viable and how it would thrive, run and operate.

How would Biafra fund its governance.

What a silly question!

How did the defunct Biafra fund its governance? If, as i'm sure you will soon argue, that we go with 'only our 5 South-East states', you think us collecting 100% from proceeds of FULL oil exploitation in Anambra, Imo and Abia, together with sales from gas exploitation in Anambra and Imo....you think this wouldn't amount to at least 2 Billion Dollars per annum? As we speak, is the South-East collecting anything close to 2 Billion Dollars per annum from federal allocation?

What of Diaspora remittances? Each year Nigeria receives nothing less than 22 Billion Dollars from Dispora remittances, of which a conservative estimation of the Igbo component in this would be about 7 Billion Dollars! Now, with a focused and sustained campaign, i'm certain the new Biafra republic can create a development pool of funds where say at least 1 Billion dollars of this Diaspora remittances could be channelled per annum!

Don't forget that with a new independent Biafra nation, IGR would increase as we would be in control of our own airports, railways, customs, VAT, river ports, tourism, etc! We would be the beautiful bride as (assuming they don't join Biafra) cities like Uyo, Calabar, Port Harcourt, Yenagoa would be eager to cut a deal with us regarding seaport access! Go and read up how Djibouti is gaining billions of dollars from its partnership with Ethiopia, its landlocked neigbour! Just go to YouTube and type in Djibouti Ethiopia seaport and see how Djibouti is gaining from its bilateral economic agreements with its giant neighbour.

We can also get loans on favourable terms from the World Bank and other international monetary and financial institutions to finance critical infrastructure like world-class, kickass airports in Enugu, Owerri, Abakaliki and Onitsha; a spanking new high-speed and cargo railway line...extending to one or two seaports of our choice; highways; agriculture; etc.

So you see, finding funds for governance would be the least of our problems! We are Igbos, and we see opportunities and a challenge where others see obstacles and doubt!