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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Trapping(m): 7:25pm On Sep 30, 2019
obixcel:
Were they ''stupid'' when they dumped McCain for Obama? Mind you many of them voted for Obama twice (2008 and 2012), they simply opted out of the status quo in 2016. We are in 2019 but your liberal mind is stuck in 2016. Are you wearing Hillary's skirt? grin grin



Smack down!
Hahahaha

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 7:47pm On Sep 30, 2019
Three years ago, Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) was the first member of Congress to endorse Donald Trump.

Now, he's resigning in disgrace -- and will soon be a convicted felon

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 9:48pm On Sep 30, 2019
Trapping:




Smack down!
Hahahaha
grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kophschmerzen: 9:53pm On Sep 30, 2019
Even the arse licking Barr is pissed with lumping him with deranged Rudy in the call.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 2:04am On Oct 01, 2019
You need to stop talking about matters you know nothing about.

As I said earlier, social services have nothing to do with socialist.

Sweden and Denmark are NOT socialist countries, you can call them welfare states/countries, Canada and United Kingdom too, and then California and New York are fast going that way as well.

China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos among others are the socialist/communist countries.
GalaticHorde:
red hot communism on the inside like Sweden or Denmark right? undecided bring a better argument

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 2:22am On Oct 01, 2019
Exactly!

See Nazi Hitler poster girl on the left and the deepstate poster girl who was at the UN recently on the right.

obixcel:
@Bolded, He hinted that Fascism would come in the form of Liberalism and of course The Democrat Party is the umbrella under which it thrives.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 2:34am On Oct 01, 2019
The only reason the establishment declared war on Trump is because he's not part of them. Trump is exposing their crimes and destroying their organization. This is the first time in 60 years the establishment is out of power (almost) and they are ready to burn down the USA just to cover up their crimes.
GalaticHorde:
yeah many stupid Americans said no because they lost their white house to a black man and just couldn't couldn't anymore Hillary is establishment agreed and so is Donald effing trump! He was right when he said Republicans are the dumbest voters ever, just pander to their whims and they'd make you a demagogue

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 3:54am On Oct 01, 2019
obixcel:
Looks like Sleepy Joe Biden has gone nuts and is terrified of a certain Guiliani exposing him grin Poor Joe, what's there to hide that scares the sh*t out of you. Hmm
Is Guiliani an FBI agent or CIA? Then after exposing him, what next? Prosecuting and then sentencing him?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 10:38am On Oct 01, 2019
ycat:
The only reason the establishment declared war on Trump is because he's not part of them. Trump is exposing their crimes and destroying their organization. This is the first time in 60 years the establishment is out of power (almost) and they are ready to burn down the USA just to cover up their crimes.
trump is establishment, he had been donating to major democratic campaigns before Obama and before he became a republican!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 10:42am On Oct 01, 2019
ycat:
You need to stop talking about matters you know nothing about.

As I said earlier, social services have nothing to do with socialist.

Sweden and Denmark are NOT socialist countries, you can call them welfare states/countries, Canada and United Kingdom too, and then California and New York are fast going that way as well.

China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos among others are the socialist/communist countries.
welfare state my foot! You Americans tend to rationalize anything to fit your narratives! They are called socialist democracies! Because the government has an obligation to guarantee certain basic rights like health and education which aren't rights in the U.S while the citizen has an obligation to the government to enable them meet this obligation not hoard wealth but then you'd understand this if your country were truly a democracy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 10:44am On Oct 01, 2019
ycat:
You need to stop talking about matters you know nothing about.

As I said earlier, social services have nothing to do with socialist.

Sweden and Denmark are NOT socialist countries, you can call them welfare states/countries, Canada and United Kingdom too, and then California and New York are fast going that way as well.

China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos among others are the socialist/communist countries.

You are the one getting things mixed up. If you have the principles of one form of government enshrined in your day to day activities, you are that type of government, no matter what name you chose to call yourself.

Socialism is mostly all about welfare and states like Sweden, Norway and heck, even the US are examples of typical welfare states running on quasi socialist idealism.

Call it hybrid socialism.

While the state is not in full control of all means of production, its socialist cloaked hand runs deep in the service it delivers and the attempts of control its seek to have over the necessary and basic needs of the citizens such as in healthcare, water, etc.

So I find it funny when Americans says they hate Bernie Sanders and his socialist ideas when their country is already approaching full socialist spectrum or testing the waters, while masking the national face with democracy. cool

Practices, not name is what classifies you as one particular form or style of government.

The mistake people are making today is defining and restricting a concept to its theoretical old fashioned form while forgetting its evolution and practical aspects in the modern era. Just like the so-called democracy, socialism has evolved and its no longer the usual practice of states controlling full means of production.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 11:04am On Oct 01, 2019
Kophschmerzen:
Even the arse licking Barr is pissed with lumping him with deranged Rudy in the call.

Hey, buddy. Longest time. I am reading you guys comments here on the latest Trump saga. Its seems the man and his presidency is genetically wired to be obfuscated in one trouble after the other. cool

How do you think this will go: will the GOP's in the Upper house come around or the move will backfire against Madame Pelosi and the rest of the gang? I see more revelations coming to light. cool but from which of the sides, I can't tell.

I am keeping my fingers cross while watching to see who will emerge the Victor from this political royal rumble.

As long as America's sham democracy continue to run on a two-party state, this sorts of political brouhaha will excel unabated. cool
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 11:14am On Oct 01, 2019
raumdeuter:


What explains the election twice of Obama and Clinton?
then the smarter people prevailed! A pity that isn't always guaranteed
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 11:19am On Oct 01, 2019
obixcel:
Were they ''stupid'' when they dumped McCain for Obama? Mind you many of them voted for Obama twice (2008 and 2012), they simply opted out of the status quo in 2016. We are in 2019 but your liberal mind is stuck in 2016. Are you wearing Hillary's skirt? grin grin
many of them? Hillary won the popular vote in case you're forgetting! That would have been enough to give her the job in an actual democracy which unfortunately America isn't so yes, I didn't say the stupid people were the majority, I said in other words, they were significant enough to give trump the post via the electoral college but all that is water under the bridge now but it doesn't change the fact that a significant number of Americans were stupid enough to vote for a conman
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 11:22am On Oct 01, 2019
ycat:
Social service have nothing to do with socialism.

Socialism is like watermelon, green outside with all the green and climate nonsense and red hot communist inside.

Btw, those things are paid for by tax payers (who in turn enjoy them as it should be) and not handouts or welfare in anyway.
are free health and education not social services paid for by taxpayers in those Nordic countries? If yes, then why call progressive Democrats socialists since that is what they are proposing? Where then is the socialism in their proposals?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 11:30am On Oct 01, 2019
Why on GOD'S good earth are fox and friends finding it hard to use the word "SERVER"? grin cheesy what is " super private secret standalone gizmo computer"? People of the world? cheesy grin cheesy grin abeg they should submit the conversations stored in the super secret gizmo computer to congress abeg
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 11:37am On Oct 01, 2019
Appleyard:


You are the one getting things mixed up. If you have the principles of one form of government enshrined in your day to day activities, you are that type of government, no matter what name you chose to call yourself.

Socialism is mostly all about welfare and states like Sweden, Norway and heck, even the US are examples of typical welfare states running on quasi socialist idealism.

Call it hybrid socialism.

While the state is not in full control of all means of production, its socialist cloaked hand runs deep in the service it delivers and the attempts of control its seek to have over the necessary and basic needs of the citizens such as in healthcare, water, etc.

So I find it funny when Americans says they hate Bernie Sanders and his socialist ideas when their country is already approaching full socialist spectrum or testing the waters, while masking the national face with democracy. cool

Practices, not name is what classifies you as one particular form or style of government.

The mistake people are making today is defining and restricting a concept to its theoretical old fashioned form while forgetting its evolution and practical aspects in the modern era. Just like the so-called democracy, socialism has evolved and its no longer the usual practice of states controlling full means of production.
my brother, thanks for breaking this for them, common sense is truly not common

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 11:44am On Oct 01, 2019
Appleyard:


Hey, buddy. Longest time. I am reading you guys comments here on the latest Trump saga. Its seems the man and his presidency is genetically wired to be obfuscated in one trouble after the other. cool

How do you think this will go: will the GOP's in the Upper house come around or the move will backfire against Madame Pelosi and the rest of the gang? I see more revelations coming to light. cool but from which of the sides, I can't tell.

I am keeping my fingers cross while watching to see who will emerge the Victor from this political royal rumble.

As long as America's sham democracy continue to run on a two-party state, this sorts of political brouhaha will excel unabated. cool
trump will scale through but not unscathed, people have been so desensitized to scandals by trump that even if like he said he shoots someone on 5th avenue, people wouldn't bat their eyelids for far too long and besides, the democratic house is led by whimps and collaborators

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:13pm On Oct 01, 2019
GalaticHorde:
many of them? Hillary won the popular vote in case you're forgetting! That would have been enough to give her the job in an actual democracy which unfortunately America isn't so yes, I didn't say the stupid people were the majority, I said in other words, they were significant enough to give trump the post via the electoral college but all that is water under the bridge now but it doesn't change the fact that a significant number of Americans were stupid enough to vote for a conman
Popular vote? grin Now I know that that Hillary's Chinese skirt you wore is an oversized one...pull up grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 12:34pm On Oct 01, 2019
GalaticHorde:
Why on GOD'S good earth are fox and friends finding it hard to use the word "SERVER"? grin cheesy what is " super private secret standalone gizmo computer"? People of the world? cheesy grin cheesy grin abeg they should submit the conversations stored in the super secret gizmo computer to congress abeg

They are the NTA of America..Abi you don forget nii?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 1:31pm On Oct 01, 2019
This is just a few of short videos of Democrats/liberals militia attacking elderly people everywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgRerQKRxJA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HrxY0UwH_4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUsvF_eHBdA

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 2:05pm On Oct 01, 2019
This man was not a Trump supporter

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 2:07pm On Oct 01, 2019
And this

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 2:49pm On Oct 01, 2019
You have no idea what you are saying but just throwing words around for the sake 9f it.

Socialism is what you see in countries I listed earlier and it has nothing to do with having social services set up for the needy.

America has a very good social services put in place to help the very needy and vulnerable to get by and get on their feet, though it is being abuse but Trump is fixing it right now. Helping the poor is not socialism, having govt at the center of every aspect of your life is socialism. America will never be a socialist country despite having the Bernie Sanders of this world trying to bring it in.

In China for instance 90% of the wealth is in the hands of the elites, there's a registration database for everything just like Bernie is proposing in America, govt is in the midst of everything including in your bedroom and you have to earn social credits to enable you use your God-given rights like going to the hospital, Chinese citizens have to be given renewable permits to move into certain areas within their own country. You have to be sick to want that to come to America.

Canada, United Kingdom, Sweden and the rest of them have socialized medicine and more Bernie Sanders among them who are pushing for it but can't be called socialist countries, maybe in the future, after all no one knew that New York and California could be pushing leftist agendas that are now making people flee these two states in record numbers.



Appleyard:


You are the one getting things mixed up. If you have the principles of one form of government enshrined in your day to day activities, you are that type of government, no matter what name you chose to call yourself.

Socialism is mostly all about welfare and states like Sweden, Norway and heck, even the US are examples of typical welfare states running on quasi socialist idealism.

Call it hybrid socialism.

While the state is not in full control of all means of production, its socialist cloaked hand runs deep in the service it delivers and the attempts of control its seek to have over the necessary and basic needs of the citizens such as in healthcare, water, etc.

So I find it funny when Americans says they hate Bernie Sanders and his socialist ideas when their country is already approaching full socialist spectrum or testing the waters, while masking the national face with democracy. cool

Practices, not name is what classifies you as one particular form or style of government.

The mistake people are making today is defining and restricting a concept to its theoretical old fashioned form while forgetting its evolution and practical aspects in the modern era. Just like the so-called democracy, socialism has evolved and its no longer the usual practice of states controlling full means of production.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 3:02pm On Oct 01, 2019
Go and learn what the definition of 'establishment' is. Trump was a businessman who donated to both sides cos that's what business owners do. He was a centrist and moderate conservative who hanged out in the New York social scene, a place he was born, raised and still lives. He played with some of the people but was never part of them, he's an outsider and this is the reason the establishment is at an-all-out war to destroy him.

GalaticHorde:
trump is establishment, he had been donating to major democratic campaigns before Obama and before he became a republican!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 3:41pm On Oct 01, 2019
ycat:
You have no idea what you are saying but just throwing words around for the sake 9f it.

Socialism is what you see in countries I listed earlier and it has nothing to do with having social services set up for the needy.

America has a very good social services put in place to help the very needy and vulnerable to get by and get on their feet, though it is being abuse but Trump is fixing it right now. Helping the poor is not socialism, having govt at the center of every aspect of your life is socialism. America will never be a socialist country despite having the Bernie Sanders of this world trying to bring it in.

What is Trump fixing? cheesy Please tell us.

So you don't know that that the American government is in every area of the people's life? You shot your foot by your own words as quoted below. cheesy

In China for instance 90% of the wealth is in the hands of the elites, there's a registration database for everything just like Bernie is proposing in America, govt is in the midst of everything including in your bedroom and you have to have social credits to enable you use your God-given rights like going to the hospital, Chinese citizens have to be given renewable permits to move into certain areas within their own country. You have to be sick to want that to come to America.

Now you just confuse yourself the more. At the bolded, if only 90% of the wealth is in the hands of the elites in China, then kudos to the Chinese, because in America, only 10 families (the 1%ters/elites) are richer than the entire country put together. They control more than 95% of the entire wealth of the country. How is that better than China?

Your confusion went further downhill when you fail to see that in America, people are already living in an Orwellian state. In America, if you are bleeping your wife, the government per the NSA is there with you in your bedroom. You send an SMS to a friend, they know. For every credit card swipe you perform, they keep tabs. You chat on social media, they are there watching. Heck, even if you buy a bathroom slippers and harbor thoughts of bleeping the girl next door, they know and are watching in every steps of the way. America is a police state and the government is completely involved in every area of the people's private life. China simply made theirs official, but it takes only the courage of whistle blowers in the US to inform you that you are already living in a police state. It is only a sick man who doesn't know that. Bernie simply stated the obvious.

Face it or leave it; you are already living in a socialist state howbeit covert in operations. Come out of your delusion and stop deceiving yourself.

Canada, United Kingdom, Sweden and the rest of them have socialized medicine and more Bernie Sanders among them who are pushing for it but can't be called socialist countries, maybe in the future After all no one knew that New York and California could be pushing leftist agendas that are now making people flee these two states in record numbers.


What is wrong with you? how do you explain ObamaCare prioritised chip infusion into your body; democratic or socialised healthcare? O boy, you are already living in a covert socialized states. grin New York and California simply made what has long been there official.
The majority of you can't even see that your undemocratic electoral system were cleverly designed to pave way for state control in the future. But we do know, and we aren't in the least surprise about what is happening in the aforementioned states.

You are in it already, brother cool. Only time will tell before it goes full spectrum socialist. cool

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Appleyard(m): 3:50pm On Oct 01, 2019
GalaticHorde:
trump will scale through but not unscathed, people have been so desensitized to scandals by trump that even if like he said he shoots someone on 5th avenue, people wouldn't bat their eyelids for far too long and besides, the democratic house is led by whimps and collaborators

Hmmm. i don't want to jump to conclusion yet. But I do believe that there is more to come. But the thing that really makes me want to believe that this marathon race by Dems would backfire is the dream their media covens are already dreaming. That Pelose could emerge the Potus should Trump be impeached and Pence is indicted and swept along. Very funny bunch of people.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 3:51pm On Oct 01, 2019
When you have low view of yourself, you will think welfare is a thing to pass down from generation to generation.

Basic rights of individuals in America are the best in the world. Education(kindergarten to 12 grade)are rights and health care are rights too but just not as it's done in social medicine. In America, you can walk into any urgent care or emergency room at any time and be treated with no question asked. America takes care of its citizens better than any country in the world. Elderly have Medicare and the poor have Medicaid.

Rationalized medicines have not advanced any country, 63,000 Canadians cross the border to the US every year just for treatment, despite being free in Canada. No single medical breakthrough from UK. Sweden is not even a contender. Both UK and Canada benefit from enterprenual medicine and patents from America. So what is the point of your socialized medicine when it's all rationalized and many die on waiting list?



GalaticHorde:
welfare state my foot! You Americans tend to rationalize anything to fit your narratives! They are called socialist democracies! Because the government has an obligation to guarantee certain basic rights like health and education which aren't rights in the U.S while the citizen has an obligation to the government to enable them meet this obligation not hoard wealth but then you'd understand this if your country were truly a democracy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 4:31pm On Oct 01, 2019
This is just in the first 20 months into his tenure and if none of this can fix your life then you are a forgotten issue.

Dems propaganda is damaging your brain.

This is the chart of who owns what in the USA as of 2016, earnings have grown and 1.2 millions low class have moved to middle class since Trump's election.

Appleyard:


What is Trump fixing? cheesy Please tell us.

So you don't know that that the American government is in every area of the people's life? You shot your foot by your own words as quoted below. cheesy



Now you just confuse yourself the more. At the bolded, if only 90% of the wealth is in the hands of the elites in China, then kudos to the Chinese, because in America, only 10 families (the 1%ters/elites) are richer than the entire country put together. They control more than 95% of the entire wealth of the country. How is that better than China?

Your confusion went further downhill when you fail to see that in America, people are already living in an Orwellian state. In America, if you are bleeping your wife, the government per the NSA is there with you in your bedroom. You send an SMS to a friend, they know. For every credit card swipe you perform, they keep tabs. You chat on social media, they are there watching. Heck, even if you buy a bathroom slippers and harbor thoughts of bleeping the girl next door, they know and are watching in every steps of the way. America is a police state and the government is completely involved in every area of the people's private life. China simply made theirs official, but it takes only the courage of whistle blowers in the US to inform you that you are already living in a police state. It is only a sick man who doesn't know that. Bernie simply stated the obvious.

Face it or leave it; you are already living in a socialist state howbeit covert in operations. Come out of your delusion and stop deceiving yourself.



What is wrong with you? how do you explain ObamaCare prioritised chip infusion into your body; democratic or socialised healthcare? O boy, you are already living in a covert socialized states. grin New York and California simply made what has long been there official.
The majority of you can't even see that your undemocratic electoral system were cleverly designed to pave way for state control in the future. But we do know, and we aren't in the least surprise about what is happening in the aforementioned states.

You are in it already, brother cool. Only time will tell before it goes full spectrum socialist. cool

Nonsense! You better go and get help before it's too late. Do you think Americans are people you can tell what to do? Have you ever seen a country with so much guns gets run down by any global agenda. Obama tried it and that's why Hillary didn't win and dems won't be winning elections anytime soon. Obamacare that is dead and being buried as we speak? Even if it's law, how many sane Americans will allow chips inserted in them? There are two sides to everything you see in America, the conservatives and then the liberals, so stop lumping everything together. What you are expressing is in your fantasy alone and you don't know who the American patriots who are awake to the plans of the deepstate are. Why do you think some media and people are saying there may be a second civil war which by the way I don't believe will happen? National guards are enough to squash any spill over from when certain people are arrested?

You need to get out more and upgrade your brains with what is actually happening and not what you think should as being used on you as brainwashing mechanism.

Stop your BS, the US is already at war and the Patriots are winning, so you won't be having all that you dream of American, God chose Trump for a reason.

There will never be a state-controlled America and that's why the battle is on now. If you think otherwise, you haven't been paying attention to the fights going on.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 4:43pm On Oct 01, 2019
GalaticHorde

This is in 2016, since Trump's election, 1.2 millions Americans have moved from low class to the middle class.

I don't know what is driving some of you to say things you have no clue about.

Read up and stop misleading people here with leftist propaganda.
That's from Brookings institution.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ycat: 5:12pm On Oct 01, 2019
No one is above the law or investigation, not even your gods. AG Barr will present his findings to courts and the jury of your gods peers will be the ones to decide if they are guilty not, so no need to panic. You will know the truth and it will set you free.

Kophschmerzen:
Even the arse licking Barr is pissed with lumping him with deranged Rudy in the call.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 5:32pm On Oct 01, 2019
ycat:
Go and learn what the definition of 'establishment' is. Trump was a businessman who donated to both sides cos that's what business owners do. He was a centrist and moderate conservative who hanged out in the New York social scene, a place he was born, raised and still lives. He played with some of the people but was never part of them, he's an outsider and this is the reason the establishment is at an-all-out war to destroy him.


"he's an outsider and this is the reason the establishment is at an-all-out war to destroy him"

You trumpsters are like Buharists..All you do is to complain every now and then and blame someone else for your woes..Trump complained all through when he was out of government..Now he is in government he is still complaining some people want to bring him down.He has blamed almost everybody but himself..He does things that are reported and found to be truth..He keeps on committing things that bring problems for him yet he says some people want to get him..

Shioor

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