Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan - Politics (4)

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by DMerciful(m): 2:20am On Jan 19, 2020

There was a major outcry in 2012 but when it was removed, you people occupied lagos.
You are the child in 2012!

obailala:
Oga please I dont do childish arguments. I showed you a link which contains my figures, there are also 1000 other news sites which contain the same info free for the public (do a google search and help yourself)..

If you cant open the link and read, or if it is beyond your intellectual capacity to do your own verification research bia google, then I'm sorry, I cant be of help to your kind.

Meanwhile regarding 2019, I dont know how much was paid for subsidy in 2019 because it hasnt been announced yet; 2019 just ended 2 weeks ago.

Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by Rosskii: 2:25am On Jan 19, 2020

dashing07:
Nigerians can be so funny, imagine how is buhari or Jonathan ever good, look at what this country have become in the last 10years we are more backward than any country in d world.. u need to step out of the country to see what am talking about....

You're thoughtless. Step out of the country and go where? Is everywhere outside Nigeria paradise? This is how you mor.on.s end up in slavery in Libya, with your stupid inferior mentality.

And if you think Nigeria is ''more backward than any country in the world'', it indicates your crass ignorance about the world around you. Somebody needs to dump your asss in Yemen, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bangladesh, Burma, Iraq, Syria, DRC, Sierra Leone, Chad, Cambodia, Guatemala, Niger, or Burundi, and then you will know what 'backwardness' really is. Ode.

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by obailala(m): 2:26am On Jan 19, 2020

DMerciful:
There was a major outcry in 2012 but when it was removed, you people occupied lagos.
You are the child in 2012!

So you're now craftily shifting the argument?....

Before we go there, do you now agree the info you posted earlier was wrong?... Do you now agree N2.1 trillion was the amount paid for subsidy in 2011?

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by knowledgeable: 2:41am On Jan 19, 2020

mikezuruki:
I honestly haven't been a fan of Buhari since time immemorial, but looking at the things he has done, albeit slowly, he has done better than Jonathan.

People here may want to counter me with fuel price as it was then and now. But that's the facade Jonathan government wanted you to see. Other areas, it was porous. He really plundered this nation.

So please, sentiment aside, argue for Jonathan if you think he is better. This thread is for adults. Educational purpose only. No insult anybody wey disagree with you

Very poor judgement: Under Jonathan,

1) Economy growing at 7% or better.

2) Total Nigerian GDP, ( then, the biggest in the African continent) was $550 billions us dollar.

3) Security of lifes and properties are worst off now than it had ever being.

4) Tribalism and nepotistic appointments is times 100 percent now than ever.

Don't have the time to continue....

D

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by obailala(m): 2:42am On Jan 19, 2020

DMerciful:
There was a major outcry in 2012 but when it was removed, you people occupied lagos.
You are the child in 2012!

Yes I agree, I was opposed to the removal of subsidy in 2012 because the govt then told us they were removing subsidy because 'people' were stealing the money, and instead of catching or punishing or preventing the thieves, the only remedial measure they came up with was to remove subsidy.

But then again, talk is cheap! the latest trend these days is for every current PDP sympathiser to claim they weren't opposed to subsidy removal in 2012. And one then wonders whether all those who blasted govt in 2012 (including musicians like Flavour who released a song) were automatically all ApC. Can you swear on your life that you weren't also against the removal of subsidy back then in 2012?

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by kolaaderin: 4:08am On Jan 19, 2020

PassingShot:
So, our debt portfolio is now stated in naira and not dollars? Tell that to idiots and not sensible people here.

Your ref to OBJ time when our needs and population weren't anything close to what we niw have makes no sense at all.

Anyway, the good thing about all of this is that, even the common man and woman know who their saviour is and that's why PMB was re-elected against all odds.

very simple and straight forward. Peoples mandate !!! as simple as that. Against all odds, we still believe in Bubu to every other light fingers in our political atmosphere and that is the indicator he is definitely doing better than GEJ.
If anyone is in doubt, ask GEJ to contest 2023 and see him losing with even wider margin then the 2015 election.

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by eagleu: 4:15am On Jan 19, 2020

knowledgeable:
Very poor judgement: Under Jonathan,

1) Economy growing at 7% or better.

2) Total Nigerian GDP, ( then, the biggest in the African continent) was $550 billions us dollar.

3) Security of lifes and properties are worst off now than it had ever being.

4) Tribalism and nepotistic appointments is times 100 percent now than ever.

Don't have the time to continue....

D

Almost thought it was a joke someone trying to compare totally corrupt and inefficient Buhari with GEJ huh

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by PassingShot(m): 4:43am On Jan 19, 2020

Xisnin:
The common man that can no longer feed himself sees PMB as a savior?
How about the common man that can no longer farm or go to market due to activities of bandits?

Buhari was reelected because of 2023 politics and his incumbency power, all the odds were in his favor.

You can attribute his re-election to anything you like, the simple fact is that PMB was resoundingly re-elected.

Who cares about your excuses?

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by tsdarkside(m): 4:52am On Jan 19, 2020

you morafers nigerians should stop insultin ghanaians....!!
they are not lesser than you....!!

thats all i care about....
after buhari una will return back to been docile anyways....

oga and madam moroons....!! angry

Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by TheEnygma(m): 5:41am On Jan 19, 2020

dashing07:
Nigerians can be so funny, imagine how is buhari or Jonathan ever good, look at what this country have become in the last 10years we are more backward than any country in d world.. u need to step out of the country to see what am talking about....

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by contigiency(m): 7:47am On Jan 19, 2020

nabiz:
pls list Buhari's achievement for the past 5 year or forever remain mute

1. Ogoni land clean up ongoing

2. 2nd Niger bridge ongoing.

3. Mambila 3040 mega watts ongoing.

4. Railway projects in many parts of the country, ongoing.

5. Port Harcourt int'l airport modernisation.

6. Akanu Ibiam int'l airport Enugu, ongoing.

7. No fuel scarcity even in December period.

8. No more bombing of churches and mosques.

9. Resuscitation of fertilizer plants across the country.

10. The drastic reduction of rice importation

11. Making sure that BVN, TSA and IPPIS are fully implemented to curb corruption.

11. Fight against corruption has become vigorous.

12. Helped 27 States that were owing several months of salaries to clear them through budget support and pari fund refund.

13. Brought Nigeria out of recession.

14. Improving ease of doing business in Nigeria through police reforms.

15. Signing and implementation of executive order numbers 5, 6 and 7.

16. He has returned Nigeria to a normal fiscal budget structure of January to December.

17. Building roads in all the 36 states in the country.

18. Introduction of finance act which which has a lot of reforms in Nigerian tax and finance administration.

19. Equipping Nigerian military more than ever before.

20. Improvement in agriculture generally.

Etc.

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by dashing07(m): 9:05am On Jan 19, 2020

Rosskii:
You're thoughtless. Step out of the country and go where? Is everywhere outside Nigeria paradise? This is how you mor.on.s end up in slavery in Libya, with your stupid inferior mentality.

And if you think Nigeria is ''more backward than any country in the world'', it indicates your crass ignorance about the world around you. Somebody needs to dump your asss in Yemen, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bangladesh, Burma, Iraq, Syria, DRC, Sierra Leone, Chad, Cambodia, Guatemala, Niger, or Burundi, and then you will know what 'backwardness' really is. Ode.

Am very sure this is how u re living, with no manners u will just come here and insult people thinking u can write punch lines u are part of the people am talking about I pity u aboki...

Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by dashing07(m): 9:06am On Jan 19, 2020

Rosskii:
You're thoughtless. Step out of the country and go where? Is everywhere outside Nigeria paradise? This is how you mor.on.s end up in slavery in Libya, with your stupid inferior mentality.

And if you think Nigeria is ''more backward than any country in the world'', it indicates your crass ignorance about the world around you. Somebody needs to dump your asss in Yemen, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bangladesh, Burma, Iraq, Syria, DRC, Sierra Leone, Chad, Cambodia, Guatemala, Niger, or Burundi, and then you will know what 'backwardness' really is. Ode.

Am very sure this is how u re living, with no manners u will just come here and insult people thinking u can write punch lines u are part of the people am talking about I pity u aboki..

Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by anonimi: 4:52am On Jan 20, 2020

obailala:
On the contrary, the N1.8 trillion you quoted which was spent on subsidy by GMB was the TOTAL sum spent in 4 years, i.e. 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018.

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/nigeria-spent-n9tr-on-fuel-subsidy-in-10-years-pppra.html

With your above skewed nalysis comparing 1 year vs. 4 years, we can conveniently say RENO has achieved his aim of misleading the public.

Did you say total sum for 2015 to 2018? Haba. Why tell lies anyhow huh

When you guys screamed oil price was high during the Jonathan years, yet expect subsidy to be low as fuel prices were held steady, does that sound reasonable?
You should be concerned that fuel subsidies are so high under incompetent failure barawo bubu while oil prices are low and the fuel price was hiked to N145 from N87.
Please face your barawo who has ruined the booming economy handed over to him and ask where he has stashed his loot just like Abacha his thieving idol.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3040085_abachaaa_jpegb9b6ace1c002846314b86b3375f466a0

Government to spend N1.149 trillion on petrol subsidy in 2019

https://guardian.ng/news/government-to-spend-n1-149-trillion-on-petrol-subsidy-in-2019/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAriq3_2zaM

Nigeria’s fuel subsidies bill set to soar on rising oil price
OCTOBER 8 2018

In April, when crude averaged about $70 a barrel, Emmanuel Kachikwu, the oil minister, reportedly said the annual fuel subsidy bill had risen to 1.4tn naira ($3.85bn) — that is roughly half the N2.67tn the government collected in net oil revenues in 2017 or a quarter of total net government revenues that year.

https://www.ft.com/content/8094bfd4-ca29-11e8-9fe5-24ad351828ab

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2589504_subsidy2_jpeg57ea79bc1f8758353f00f8db1d53dbf1

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Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by obailala(m): 8:51am On Jan 20, 2020*

anonimi:
Did you say total sum for 2015 to 2018? Haba. ~~Why tell lies anyhow~~
When you guys screamed oil price was high during the Jonathan years, yet expect subsidy to be low as fuel prices were held steady, does that sound reasonable?
You should be concerned that fuel subsidies are so high under incompetent failure barawo bubu while oil prices are low and the fuel price was hiked to N145 from N87.
Please face your barawo who has ruined the booming economy handed over to him and ask where he has stashed his loot just like Abacha his thieving idol.

Government to spend N1.149 trillion on petrol subsidy in 2019

https://guardian.ng/news/government-to-spend-n1-149-trillion-on-petrol-subsidy-in-2019/
Nigeria’s fuel subsidies bill set to soar on rising oil price
OCTOBER 8 2018

In April, when crude averaged about $70 a barrel, Emmanuel Kachikwu, the oil minister, reportedly said the annual fuel subsidy bill had risen to 1.4tn naira ($3.85bn) — that is roughly half the N2.67tn the government collected in net oil revenues in 2017 or a quarter of total net government revenues that year.

https://www.ft.com/content/8094bfd4-ca29-11e8-9fe5-24ad351828ab

Yes I said it, and it's the truth; the N1.8 trillion quoted ended up being the total for 2015 + 2016 + 2017 + 2018. I'm not a child to come and lie or bicker over nonsense; the N1.15 trillion or N1.4 trillion you posted above were predictions made in anticipation of high average oil prices, pedictions!!! Oil prices ended up not averaging on the high side in those years so those predictions ended up not materialising.

It only requires common sense to know that subsidy would have been higher due to high average oil prices back then; no sensible person doubts that (the only real mega subsidy scam took place in 2011 when the subsidy bill was doubled to over N2tn for no reason).

But to boldly peddle wrong figures saying N1.8tn was spent in a year by GMb (calling it the highest ever and calling it double what GEJ spent), I struggle to see the sense in spewing shameless, ignorant and childish lies all because you're desperate to force a political argument.

Re: Sentiments Aside, Buhari Is Better Than Jonathan by oskopy: 9:37am On Jan 20, 2020

May Fulani heardsmen invade your home as soon as possible.the most point of governance is security of life and property,which this govt lack and someone is comparing them with gej.may be you are moslem fanatic that see killing Christian's as a development

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