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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by Tektronics12: 10:36am On Mar 26, 2020
My Advice for You is to Come to UK with your Girlfriend and Start a New Life. You can Work Only 20 Hours a Week But Your Spouse Can Work Unlimited hours. Also, Once Your Kid Start School; he Could Claim Citizenship at age 7 making Yous also to Do Likewise. Congratulations
Trello:
Hello everyone - I'm not quite sure whether this is the right section to post this.

Anyways, I currently hold a Master's degree and I also recently gained admission into a PhD program in a UK university but with no funding from the school and the estimated total cost of the tuition and living expenses amount to about #16 million for the 3 years.

So, I decided to come seek the opinion of folks here with better experience if it really worth spending this amount in the long run or should I rather invest this amount?

Thank you in advance!
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by IamgratefulLord(f): 10:37am On Mar 26, 2020
Mekas2016:
It's better to go on with the PhD, On the long run you will be glad you did providing your course of study is a competitive one.
Also have in mind that the UK gives employment permit to only people with high skills giving you a better standing and privilege since PhD is on level 10.
I have a Masters degree in Computer science here in the UK, But only got a job after I did some professional courses on CCNA, CCNP and Cyber security before I was able to land a good job!
You would not want to return to Nigeria after spending so much, Even a kitchen porter here earns approximately 800k per month which is more than what an average professors earns in Nigeria.
Also your expenses can be subsidised with some little jobs from the Agency Jobs as your student visa allows you to work part time during your study time and full time on holidays.
In Summary take up the opportunity! A person with 100euros in Europe is better insured than a person with 100million in Nigeria. ,
Chai! angry. You are right 100 % angry. I wished I schooled in the UK. Poor me!! tongue
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by Nobody: 10:38am On Mar 26, 2020
erico2k2:

No disrespect, PhD involves loads of research, something the 9ja schools are not ye at grip with!

Nigerian schools do still produce PhD's.

The problem is funding. Education budgets are usually in the region of 1-2 billion dollars US...to be shared among 70 universities, secondary schools and primary schools. (while foreign universities have spending budgets in the tens of billions...which means they can fund facilities for research, which attracts more private and public funding)

The problem is further compounded by fees being kept very low...$300 and below...(because we are an oil producing country)..which makes matters worse.
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by contigiency(m): 10:38am On Mar 26, 2020
Not at all. After all, majority of those who spent the money over there are the ones constuting nuisance in Twitter and other social media.
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by Psoul(m): 10:38am On Mar 26, 2020
Use part of that money, buy chemical to produce sanitizer. Get sales boys and girls. Market it for the period this Coronavirus trends. Make a lot of money.

At the end, you will make enough money that you'll shocked at.
Finally, add the profit to that N16m capital. Then it will take u a long way during ur programme cos I know N16m alone won't be enough for that 3yrs.

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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by confyy007(m): 10:40am On Mar 26, 2020
No amount spent on education is too much. Not like as if you'll be spending the whole ₦16m on education, living and feeding expenses is there too na

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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by Nobody: 10:40am On Mar 26, 2020
kikero:


A PhD is always worth it., especially in Nigeria where lecturers with PhD aren't very common.
and how much are PhD holders in Nigeria paid for him to invest 16M in it?
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by Nobody: 10:41am On Mar 26, 2020
EdoPrince93:
[s][/s]

Who are the we?
Someone that is possessed.

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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by DexterousOne(m): 10:42am On Mar 26, 2020
Onebottle:
16m
I go take am buy 5 phd for naija here


undecided
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by Nobody: 10:42am On Mar 26, 2020
Excuse me shocked shocked shocked
16 M what ??

Naira or Kobo??

You are a 'made-man' with 16M Naira.. Don't lose it just like that!!! undecided
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by EdoPrince93(m): 10:44am On Mar 26, 2020
kokanepyramid:

Someone that is possessed.

Couldn't have said it any better.....
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by BluntTheApostle(m): 10:46am On Mar 26, 2020
DexterousOne:


Invest indeed undecided

Invest in WHAT?

There are many investments:

For example, agriculture, livestock farming and real estate.
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by erico2k2(m): 10:46am On Mar 26, 2020
kikero:


Nigerian schools do still produce PhD's.

The problem is funding. Education budgets are usually in the region of 1-2 billion dollars US...to be shared among 70 universities, secondary schools and primary schools. (while foreign universities have spending budgets in the tens of billions...which means they can fund facilities for research, which attracts more private and public funding)


The problem is further compounded by fees being kept very low...$300 and below...(because we are an oil producing country)..which makes matters worse.
@ the bolded was what I meant by not at grip with! Imagine an electrical Engineer wants to do PhD in 9ja uni, how are they gonna start in reality, my child who is 12 has already seen the original Michael faraday's generator some proff in 9ja just seen it in photos!

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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by BiggestGurl19(f): 10:47am On Mar 26, 2020
kikero:


A PhD is always worth it., especially in Nigeria where lecturers with PhD aren't very common.
Sorry where did you get your statistics from?
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by erico2k2(m): 10:47am On Mar 26, 2020
eni4real:
Excuse me shocked shocked shocked
16 M what ??

Naira or Kobo??

You are a 'made-man' with 16M Naira.. Don't lose it just like that!!! undecided
How old are you? the way you are talking made me to ask!
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by frog12: 10:47am On Mar 26, 2020
what did you study in uk and germany? i like your post.


pmoye:
As someone with a London Master degree from one of the leading university in the World and a PhD from Germany, I can tell you upfront that it ain't worth it. There, I said it. I consider the tuition and accompanying expenses for PhD degrees in the UK highly exploitative and no one should ever have to pay for a PhD degree.

You would ask me why. PhD training isn't about you get a degree but is about you contributing effort, time and lota lota pain to solving a human problem. PhD training is more an employment that it is schooling. The more reason I so much respect countries that pay PhD candidates monthly salaries/stipendum. My PhD in Germany I was receiving a monthly salary of about 1,700 euro after all taxes and deductions.

Getting a position like this in Germany, The Netherlands, etc is very competitive but you should insist on being fairly paid for your effort during your PhD training. No matter how long it takes for you to get such a position, well except you are not good enough for the openings (no pun intended here, just stating the obvious).

Plus, no matter how much you spend on getting an overpriced PhD, employment after the degree is never guaranteed.

UK exploits people in this regards, don't waste your money on a UK degree which is arguably not as good as what you get from countries like Germany.


Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by Nobody: 10:47am On Mar 26, 2020
being:
That's throwing money down the drain I can tell you so confidently. What job do you think you 'll get after that that 'll compensate for that cost? Do you think you 'll be employed in the UK? Of course that's a low chance! Next thing is why are you even doing a Ph.D.?! If the answer isn't because you really have a passion for the academia/lecturing then you are simply wasting the time & resources. If otherwise, note that phd shouldn't cost your own money!! You should get assistantships & scholarships for it because there are a lot of it. You should go to Canada or some Scandinavian country for this. Whatever the case just note your 16M for studies in UK has zero ROI. What job will you get then that you can't get now? I'd rather you obtain the money and just even buy Treasury bills with it. And that's about 2M per annum income for u dude. Now I'm even sure you ve not considered that the amt will be much more than that because the pound naira rate will become more expensive due to oil price crash.

Yes, I am also worried about this ROI. Every step I take now, I always consider my gains. It made me pessimistic a lot though.

I am also concerned about T-Bills? Does 16M actually make 2M for you in 1 year, I really doubt that. Maybe you can enlighten me more because the Interest rates I calculated a year ago wasn't that much.
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by Nobody: 10:49am On Mar 26, 2020
BiggestGurl19:

Sorry where did you get your statistics from?

Check upthread for my later posts where I posted a report from Vanguard in 2016 which gives some statistics, including the harsh one,40% of Nigerian lecturers have a PhD (should be 100%)
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by watchindelta(m): 10:49am On Mar 26, 2020
Mateen1000:
Anywayz I know you are lying lipsrsealed

But it doesn’t worth it undecided
With 16M you can relocate permanently to Switzerland or Romania or any other Average european country and live the best life while you work also.
Romania shocked embarassed
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by biobash(m): 10:50am On Mar 26, 2020
Trello:
Hello everyone - I'm not quite sure whether this is the right section to post this.

Anyways, I currently hold a Master's degree and I also recently gained admission into a PhD program in a UK university but with no funding from the school and the estimated total cost of the tuition and living expenses amount to about #16 million for the 3 years.

So, I decided to come seek the opinion of folks here with better experience if it really worth spending this amount in the long run or should I rather invest this amount?

Thank you in advance!
.

If you get TETfund, then it is cool. Like previous commenters, with 16M you're likely to be stranded. UK is good, but you can seek some other options even if it is partial funding.

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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by Gerrard59(m): 10:52am On Mar 26, 2020
kikero:


I guess that's because the specific research he wants to do can only be done there in that particular university.

When you apply for a PhD, you are also hoping a specific supervisor would take an interest in your project and hopefully there would be space in the school for you. Applying again to any US university might take a long time...as he may have to find an actual university where he can do his project.

I also suspect OP has found his funding....and the funding has to be spent in that particular university.(though from the way he is talking, he may not have found it yet)

He should have started his search from the US, if he doesn't see, he tries Japan, Germany, Netherlands or South Korea before the UK. I really doubt there's any research that cannot be conducted in the US that is done in the UK. Seriously, I doubt so. If the US doesn't conduct such research (wild guess in the automonous driving or advanced engineering), then Germany or Japan is his best bet. Certainly not the UK. What does the UK know in engineering or hard sciences research? Sixteen million is quite a lot of money to spend on a PhD let alone in the UK.

Nevertheless, his money anyway.

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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by MrCuteking(m): 10:52am On Mar 26, 2020
CoronaVirusPro:
16 what!


I die there!

Rather come to Nigeria and buy 4 PhD from Unilag, UI, OAU and FUTA

Highest I pay 4 million Naira each

16m for wetin. Na me kill Jesus

My broda, I tire O. Person get 16mulla he no fit use am become him own boss. Who oyibo PhD help.

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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by flockofpips: 10:52am On Mar 26, 2020
Go and buy stock shares with that money then in the next 3 years you know what you get
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by ademijuwonlo(f): 10:54am On Mar 26, 2020
It is a worthy investment.
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by shogsman(m): 10:55am On Mar 26, 2020
16 million will not be enough for 3years
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by deebrain(m): 10:57am On Mar 26, 2020
If 16 million is like 20k to you, and you are on a 100k a month level, go ahead.

If not, no for now.

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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by mufadem2012: 10:59am On Mar 26, 2020
If you have fat bank account that will not suffer after this payment , I don't see anything wrong but to go ahead with your last kobo in tour bank account, this is not advisable. Think , analyse and decide
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by ogbonti: 10:59am On Mar 26, 2020
wether it his story is true or false, my thing is

you want to spend $43,000 to acquire an academic certificate to become a certified slave working for someone else OR becoming a teacher in one school, and still prone to taking orders, run around and getting fired someday - on top of your hard earned money that was given away for tuition INCLUDING your valuable time spent on reading the ideas of other men tucked in books?


my brother - please i beg you in the name of God, sit down and think of a good business you can start easily with $10,000 and keep the remaining $33,000 in your account. If and when you break even - then apply another $10, 000 from your reserves to shore up your business. so before you exhaust half of that money you will be better positioned for life and there will be no regrets

those who spent their own $43,000 to go to school for PhD will come applying in your company to be your employee in 10 years time, and they will be praying u give them a chance to be your slave. i know you want to have PhD at the end of your name but do remember, when you succeed in business and you become a philanthropist, universities will line up to give you doctoral degrees (honoris causa)

even the great Azikiwe was not a PhD holder but he got his own doctoral as a honorary degree, and he was called Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe until he died.

Mike Zuckerberg was a Harvard drop out- when he got rich through facebook, the same Harvard he dropped out from as an undergraduate gave him a honorary doctoral degree. Go figure!


never aspire to be an employee all your life, nobody can ever pay you what you are worth

- Rich Dad, Poor Dad

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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by Nwogeh: 11:00am On Mar 26, 2020
It will take you at least 15years to earn the equivalent of the future value of the amount if you are employed as a lecturer in a Nigerian after the study. So to me it's not worth it.

Trello:
Hello everyone - I'm not quite sure whether this is the right section to post this.

Anyways, I currently hold a Master's degree and I also recently gained admission into a PhD program in a UK university but with no funding from the school and the estimated total cost of the tuition and living expenses amount to about #16 million for the 3 years.

So, I decided to come seek the opinion of folks here with better experience if it really worth spending this amount in the long run or should I rather invest this amount?

Thank you in advance!
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by GENTLETEE(m): 11:00am On Mar 26, 2020
I dont think it is worth it o!
Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by edoairways: 11:01am On Mar 26, 2020
CoronaVirusPro:
16 what!


I die there!

Rather come to Nigeria and buy 4 PhD from Unilag, UI, OAU and FUTA

Highest I pay 4 million Naira each

16m for wetin. Na me kill Jesus
And graduate in 10 years time I suppose

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Re: Is Spending N16M On A 3-Year Ph.D In The UK Worth It? by teepain: 11:02am On Mar 26, 2020
Trello:
Hello everyone - I'm not quite sure whether this is the right section to post this.

Anyways, I currently hold a Master's degree and I also recently gained admission into a PhD program in a UK university but with no funding from the school and the estimated total cost of the tuition and living expenses amount to about #16 million for the 3 years.

So, I decided to come seek the opinion of folks here with better experience if it really worth spending this amount in the long run or should I rather invest this amount?

Thank you in advance!

In the present circumstances, #16 million might not be enough to see you through your 3 years PhD with tution, living expenses and other incidental costs.

In the alternative, I will suggest you beam your search light for PhDs in the U.S. You will find a lot of them fully funded.

With a well crafted Statement of purpose you will most likely get an admission in the States.

All the best.

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