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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by JaySterling: 8:28am On Mar 28, 2020
Fisher007:


Microtek 2.3kva inverter is awesome. I will advice you use it with a 200ah battery (at least 4 batteries).

You won't regret it. From experience I was using a 2.5kva mercury modified wave inverter before.
Mercury inverter is good if you want cheap modified inverter, I had to add a super charger to charge it faster.

But microtek is a better because it is pure sine wave, it doesn't spoil if there is a power surge unlike mercury. It charges faster too. Most people aren't aware because of the brand name.
What’s the disadvantage of using only 2 batteries with it? Please explain

And which batteries are you using for yours and which can you recommend for me ?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 11:19am On Mar 28, 2020
JaySterling:
my inverter is a 24V 2.3kva microtek inverter

Recently installed this week with 2 batteries 12V each

But I wanna add 2 more batteries for more backup time.

Can four batteries work on it, because each battery is 12V and times four is 48V
Don’t get everything twisted. Inverter doesn’t charge ur battery, it is solar that charges battery through charge controller, when the battery is charged. U only put loads on inverter as stabilizer. But doesn’t work as stabilizer cos it does not have boost. The Kva of ur inverter determines the loads u will put on
U can put any amount of battery on inverter in as much ur solar or ur external charger can charge it for whatever amount of time. The amount of batteries u have determine the amount of juice u will have
But if u use solar the load will be on how efficient ur charge controller and the amount of panel u have.
Our fada in the house. Did I make sense or I’m just talking in rubbish cheesy cheesy
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 12:43pm On Mar 28, 2020
JaySterling:
What’s the disadvantage of using only 2 batteries with it? Please explain

And which batteries are you using for yours and which can you recommend for me ?

There are no disadvantage really. But normally a 2.3 or 2.5kva should use two 200ah 24v battery. Some people still use two 100 ah battery but it won't last long as much as a two 200ah.

For me I use four 200ah batteries. The inverter installer interlooped the first two batteries ontop in series, then the second two batteries below in series then paralleled them altogether. That means it charges them two by two. I now still connected it to a super charger ( though it is not really necessary). But I always supercharge it once in a while to maintain the battery from ever going low.

I hope you understand or this make sense to you. Mine last for minimum 10-14 days without NEPA. Cause I don't use it for fridge or Ac or pumping machine. My total load is not even up to 400w or 500w ( few bulbs, laptop, TV, game, air coolant (once a while),phone charger ) that is all.
And most time all my appliances are not on at the same time.

My next plan is to get DC appliances, I heard that is the next way to enjoy electricity if one wants to live an OFFGRID life in Naija.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Fisher007: 12:43pm On Mar 28, 2020
JaySterling:
What’s the disadvantage of using only 2 batteries with it? Please explain

And which batteries are you using for yours and which can you recommend for me ?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 6:17pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:

It’s a lie. All u need is external charger that u will plug into a socket
Why need an external charger when the Inverter can charge?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 6:18pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:

Why need an external charger when the Inverter can charge?
If u wan use Nepa to charge the battery
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 6:21pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:
2.3kva is 2,300watts
No it's not... it's best calculated 2300va x 0.8pf= 1840w
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 6:24pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:
If u wan use Nepa to charge the battery
Is your inverter not charger equipped?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 6:26pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:

Don’t get everything twisted. Inverter doesn’t charge ur battery, it is solar that charges battery through charge controller, when the battery is charged. U only put loads on inverter as stabilizer. But doesn’t work as stabilizer cos it does not have boost. The Kva of ur inverter determines the loads u will put on
U can put any amount of battery on inverter in as much ur solar or ur external charger can charge it for whatever amount of time. The amount of batteries u have determine the amount of juice u will have
But if u use solar the load will be on how efficient ur charge controller and the amount of panel u have.
Our fada in the house. Did I make sense or I’m just talking in rubbish cheesy cheesy

I dont understand this bolded. can you explain better?

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 6:30pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:


I dont understand this bolded. can you explain better?
U people sha wan make I miss giveaway. Alright I go explain
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 6:37pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:

U people sha wan make I miss giveaway. Alright I go explain
No worry, me self dey that giveaway page. I dey observe.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 6:40pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:


I dont understand this bolded. can you explain better?
This is the thing that regulates the charging when using solar with it. Inverter is always off when not using

Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 6:44pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:

This is the thing that regulates the charging when using solar with it. Inverter is always off when not using

Bros, I have an inverter and also a solar system, that picture is a Solar Charge controller. I also have a MPPT SCC. Inverters charge even when solar is active. Some good inverters can combine power from both sources for the battery.

I'm just surprised why kept saying "Inverter does not charge the battery"
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 6:48pm On Mar 28, 2020
All the wire that comes from the buttom of a charge controller goes to battery and inverter connected to the battery

Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 6:49pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:


Bros, I have an inverter and also a solar system, that picture is a Solar Charge controller. I also have a MPPT SCC. Inverters charge even when solar is active. Some good inverters can combine power from both sources for the battery.

I'm just surprised why kept saying "Inverter does not charge the battery"
U no dey read from up
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 6:52pm On Mar 28, 2020
If nobody get my explanation, maybe una shu check google
All the wire that comes from the panel goes to charge controller den move to battery

So wire that comes from the battery goes to the inverter

Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 6:53pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:
U no dey read from up
Which OP? Jaysteeling or the Main OP of this thread?
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 6:53pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:
If nobody get my explanation, maybe una shu check google
All the wire that comes from the panel goes to charge controller den move to battery
Yes, almost everyone knows that's the connection of a Solar setup. I have a current setup of Solar system with Li-ion batteries.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 6:54pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:

Which OP? Jaysteeling or the Main OP of this thread?
Na u no get the msg na
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 6:55pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:

Yes, almost everyone knows that's the connection of a Solar setup. I have a current setup of Solar system with Li-ion batteries.
So what charges the battery now
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 6:57pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:

So what charges the battery now

During the sunny day, the solar charge controller charges, if at the same time,there's grid power, the inverter too add to the charge. Then when the sun is down, and theres still grid power, the inverter continues charging if the battery is not full

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 7:00pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:


During the sunny day, the solar charge controller charges, if at the same time,there's grid power, the inverter too add to the charge. Then when the sun is down, and theres still grid power, the inverter continues charging if the battery is not full
So how did u connect inverter to the grid without external charger

Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 7:03pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:

So how did u connect inverter to the grid without external charger
Lmao... bro. there are 2 AC on an inverter, Input and Output. the Input is to be plugged into the grid, then the output is connected to the house (Home appliances)

When grid power is available the inverter would take supply the house(appliances) from the same wire that is connected to grid and at the same time use it to charge the battery.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 7:06pm On Mar 28, 2020
@Timileyin1234 Okay, maybe I understand you now. You have an Inverter and an External charger.

I have an Inverter with in-built charger. the same inverter is the charger, i dont need an external charger.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 7:07pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:

Lmao... bro. there are 2 AC on an inverter, Input and Output. the Input is to be plugged into the grid, then the output is connected to the house (Home appliances)

When grid power is available the inverter would take supply the house(appliances) from the same wire that is connected to grid and at the same time use it to charge the battery.
Can I see ur connection
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 7:07pm On Mar 28, 2020
An even the person you posted has an Inverter with in-built charger, so you cant recommend your own setup to them.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 7:13pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:

Can I see ur connection
This is my setup with solar at my small shop. You cant see the wirings because they are under that plywood. But I can draw you the diagram.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 7:17pm On Mar 28, 2020
I have a setup too in my home but without solar.
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 7:31pm On Mar 28, 2020
@Timileyin1234 Here's a ruff drawing of the connection. When there's no grid power, the inverter takes supplies the house from the battery/(solar during the day). When the sun is down, the battery power is used but when grid power is restored, the inverter goes to (bypass) mode and supply the house with the available grid power and at the same time charge the battery.

I hope you get it better now.

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 7:31pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:

This is my setup with solar at my small shop. You cant see the wirings because they are under that plywood. But I can draw you the diagram.
I can see ur own has charger inbuilt charger
Our own use external charger to charge with grid
Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by Timileyin1234(m): 7:33pm On Mar 28, 2020
ewizard1:
@Timileyin1234 Here's a ruff drawing of the connection. When there's no grid power, the inverter takes supplies the house from the battery/(solar during the day). When the sun is down, the battery power is used but when grid power is restored, the inverter goes to (bypass) mode and supply the house with the available grid power and at the same time charge the battery.

I hope you get it better now.
See ur ekuke drawing
I get it

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Re: Inverter Users : Lets Have Your Experience by ewizard1: 7:35pm On Mar 28, 2020
Timileyin1234:

I can see ur own has charger inbuilt charger
Our own use external charger to charge with grid
Better. So be aware that these heavy inverters has charger inbuilt. Your kind of inverter has models with in-built chargers too.

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