HellVictorinho:



Yeah,a dumber person will consider your ludicrous questions.

Lool.

Inteltower:



guy nice points
you took him to school

this unbelievers are funny.
watch and see how they will avoid those facts but so foolishly would like to sound smart and dare our faith

Lol..bro they saw it, ran away and refused to answer.

One of them typical as they are, resorted to abuses. . Couldn't come up with anything logical.

Jeromejnr:


So you love to tackle believers?

Please come and tackle me o.

So let's start with your statement on morality.

You presumed humans had their morality evolved [s](even tho there is no fact on this but I will ignore for now)[/s].

Now for there to be morality there also has to be "reason". I.e the ability to make rational decisions for the benefit of one another.

Now according to the theory of evolution, animals and humans all came from one source before there was a long process of separation into species.

Now answer me these questions:
(Now keep in mind your definition of morality has to do with things we prevent in order not to cause harm or hurt others)

1. According to the theory of evolution, since we all came from the same source i.e animals and humans, why is it, based on the statements you made above, humans are the only species capable of putting a system in place e.g. Laws, prisons, authorities e.t.c to restrain the excesses of mankind?

yes other animals have morals. There are scientific papers written by ethologist to prove animals have morals also.
Examples of this include food-sharing in chimpanzees, bonobos and monkeys, Field studies and research center have demonstrated that in such gatherings, Animal X will quit doing favors for Animal Y in the event that it detects that creature Y often neglects to give back in kind.
lets leave primate and talk about other animals for example bats, Females would share food with their friends , if after a night of hunting the friend was unable to make any catch. and for the most part the friend will respond in kind at different occasions; yet when an individual neglects to respond, others become progressively hesitant to go to her aid when she is in need again. Through these, natural selection will act.

humans are not the only ones who evolved morals

you can read on animal morality

2. Why did humans evolve faster in reasoning faculties than other species of animals?

humans aren't the only intelligent animals. Numerous different animals, for example, primates, dolphins, and a few others are incredibly smart. They simply have various methods for demonstrating it. With respect to why not all animals developed to be as keen as us, a major factor is large brain. Enormous brain alone can't think that its a bear assault, or assist you with pursuing down prey. Also, not all creatures will increase much from knowledge, and rather grow progressively helpful attributes.

intelligence is not the end product of evolution. Every animal evolves differently. No animal is more evolved than the other. This is why i hate the bible, because it makes you think the human specie is the apex of evolution which is wrong

3. Science shows that land animal diversity was stable for millions of years before man came along, now an example will be Wolves, now we know for an example, wolves hurt and murder each other, these creatures were here before man yet they have refused to evolve their reasoning faculties to the point where they can establish laws to restrain such acts.

Why hasn't animals such as these evolved in their aspect of their reasoning process? What so special about mankind?

No!!! Wolves do not kill wolves within their pack - because the pack is their offspring. The only time a wolf will get violent is if they tried to mate with the female alpha, or any other female, really. Wolves are social creatures that depend on one another and have stronger family bonds than the average white middle-class family house hold. They are not blood-thirsty killers.

4. How come humans, (they said came from apes) came after millions of years and just so quickly we were able to evolve a lot faster? With our reasoning, we can adapt better and fend off all types of enemies with the weapons we create. (All animals cant fend off all their enemies.)

For the same reason that birds didn’t develop tentacles, or elephants armored exoskeletons: during their evolutionary descent genetic changes did not occur that would have not only have allowed for the acquisition of either by descendant generations but also conferred an increase in fitness with respect to environment at the time such a change arose, allowing it to selected for and become fixed in the population genome.

But wait there is a caveat here to the last question. Evolution is as a result of adaptation to the environment in order to survive. But science shows us that animals are better at surviving their environment naturally while we humans cant just survive naturally naked. We have to use our reasoning faculties for example to make clothes to survive harsh environments (animals dont need to do that). We create footwears for our feets not to hurt or get injured- but animals dont need to do that.

Because we have evolved that way already! you sound like someone who does not understand natural selection.

[s]So from this last statement I made, If you believe in evolution and are knowledgeable, you cant dare say humans are higher evolved than other animals.[/s] But if you cant say that, Why are we then better at rational decisions? (That's the fifth question).

NO ANIMAL IS SUPERIOR OR MORE EVOLVED THAN ANOTHER ANIMAL

Now the sixth and much more complex question. ( I will save that for another post).

Please intelligently enlighten us on the questions above and do not ramble or beat around the bush like others do.

In summary, Why do we always have to keep improving ourselves with reason but animals adapt naturally to the environment they are placed without having to give thought to it?

okay let me try and make this easy for you, it seems you are not well vast in the theory of evolution. When animals evolve , they continue in the line in which they evolved. For example, line evolved to walk on land, there would not be any evolutionary reason for them to begin to fly. our ancestors had began the journey of intelligence, then we would surely go down that path.


EVOLUTION IS FACT

Inteltower:



guy nice points
you took him to school

this unbelievers are funny.
watch and see how they will avoid those facts but so foolishly would like to sound smart and dare our faith

Nice points? jeromejnnr just showed his ignorance.

hakeem4:
Nice points? jeromejnnr just showed his ignorance.

typical of unbelievers who only resort to mockery to sound right. ur quoting me is worthless to me .
if you have the answers to counter the questions raised pls share and stop letting the devil use you

hakeem4:

yes other animals have morals. There are scientific papers written by ethologist to prove animals have morals also.
Examples of this include food-sharing in chimpanzees, bonobos and monkeys, Field studies and research center have demonstrated that in such gatherings, Animal X will quit doing favors for Animal Y in the event that it detects that creature Y often neglects to give back in kind.
lets leave primate and talk about other animals for example bats, Females would share food with their friends , if after a night of hunting the friend was unable to make any catch. and for the most part the friend will respond in kind at different occasions; yet when an individual neglects to respond, others become progressively hesitant to go to her aid when she is in need again. Through these, natural selection will act.

humans are not the only ones who evolved morals

you can read on animal morality



humans aren't the only intelligent animals. Numerous different animals, for example, primates, dolphins, and a few others are incredibly smart. They simply have various methods for demonstrating it. With respect to why not all animals developed to be as keen as us, a major factor is large brain. Enormous brain alone can't think that its a bear assault, or assist you with pursuing down prey. Also, not all creatures will increase much from knowledge, and rather grow progressively helpful attributes.

intelligence is not the end product of evolution. Every animal evolves differently. No animal is more evolved than the other. This is why i hate the bible, because it makes you think the human specie is the apex of evolution which is wrong


No!!! Wolves do not kill wolves within their pack - because the pack is their offspring. The only time a wolf will get violent is if they tried to mate with the female alpha, or any other female, really. Wolves are social creatures that depend on one another and have stronger family bonds than the average white middle-class family house hold. They are not blood-thirsty killers.



For the same reason that birds didn’t develop tentacles, or elephants armored exoskeletons: during their evolutionary descent genetic changes did not occur that would have not only have allowed for the acquisition of either by descendant generations but also conferred an increase in fitness with respect to environment at the time such a change arose, allowing it to selected for and become fixed in the population genome.


Because we have evolved that way already! you sound like someone who does not understand natural selection.



NO ANIMAL IS SUPERIOR OR MORE EVOLVED THAN ANOTHER ANIMAL


okay let me try and make this easy for you, it seems you are not well vast in the theory of evolution. When animals evolve , they continue in the line in which they evolved. For example, line evolved to walk on land, there would not be any evolutionary reason for them to begin to fly. our ancestors had began the journey of intelligence, then we would surely go down that path.


EVOLUTION IS FACT

Lol..bros..you have not answered my question o.

Stop confusing innate intelligence or instinct with reasoning.

I asked a question on reasoning not intelligence. All animals are intelligent in their own way. But animals who have been around before humans cannot reason like humans as I earlier explained.

As for your speech on wolves, I would like you to reread what you wrote again and carefully apply what you wrote to human behaviour and see if it makes sense.

As for your last statement on evolution, I will keep my attacking questions until after you have answered my question.

So the question again, why cant any other specie of animal apply rational reasoning the way man does to curb the excesses of man? At least there is supposed to be at least one out there. What is so special about man who just came recently to the earth?

Oh there are many things to counter in your post.

hakeem4:

yes other animals have morals. There are scientific papers written by ethologist to prove animals have morals also.
Examples of this include food-sharing in chimpanzees, bonobos and monkeys, Field studies and research center have demonstrated that in such gatherings, Animal X will quit doing favors for Animal Y in the event that it detects that creature Y often neglects to give back in kind.
lets leave primate and talk about other animals for example bats, Females would share food with their friends , if after a night of hunting the friend was unable to make any catch. and for the most part the friend will respond in kind at different occasions; yet when an individual neglects to respond, others become progressively hesitant to go to her aid when she is in need again. Through these, natural selection will act.

humans are not the only ones who evolved morals

you can read on animal morality



humans aren't the only intelligent animals. Numerous different animals, for example, primates, dolphins, and a few others are incredibly smart. They simply have various methods for demonstrating it. With respect to why not all animals developed to be as keen as us, a major factor is large brain. Enormous brain alone can't think that its a bear assault, or assist you with pursuing down prey. Also, not all creatures will increase much from knowledge, and rather grow progressively helpful attributes.

intelligence is not the end product of evolution. Every animal evolves differently. No animal is more evolved than the other. This is why i hate the bible, because it makes you think the human specie is the apex of evolution which is wrong


No!!! Wolves do not kill wolves within their pack - because the pack is their offspring. The only time a wolf will get violent is if they tried to mate with the female alpha, or any other female, really. Wolves are social creatures that depend on one another and have stronger family bonds than the average white middle-class family house hold. They are not blood-thirsty killers.



For the same reason that birds didn’t develop tentacles, or elephants armored exoskeletons: during their evolutionary descent genetic changes did not occur that would have not only have allowed for the acquisition of either by descendant generations but also conferred an increase in fitness with respect to environment at the time such a change arose, allowing it to selected for and become fixed in the population genome.


Because we have evolved that way already! you sound like someone who does not understand natural selection.



NO ANIMAL IS SUPERIOR OR MORE EVOLVED THAN ANOTHER ANIMAL


okay let me try and make this easy for you, it seems you are not well vast in the theory of evolution. When animals evolve , they continue in the line in which they evolved. For example, line evolved to walk on land, there would not be any evolutionary reason for them to begin to fly. our ancestors had began the journey of intelligence, then we would surely go down that path.


EVOLUTION IS FACT

Your post is unnecessary.
Perhaps, you also won't mind if I ask you to explain why humans post bla bla bla on media platforms such as Nairaland.

Jeromejnr:



Lol..bros..you have not answered my question o.

Stop confusing innate intelligence or instinct with reasoning.

I asked a question on reasoning not intelligence. All animals are intelligent in their own way. But animals who have been around before humans cannot reason like humans as I earlier explained.

As for your speech on wolves, I would like you to reread what you wrote again and carefully apply what you wrote to human behaviour and see if it makes sense.

As for your last statement on evolution, I will keep my attacking questions until after you have answered my question.

So the question again, why cant any other specie of animal apply rational reasoning the way man does to curb the excesses of man? At least there is supposed to be at least one out there. What is so special about man who just came recently to the earth?

Oh there are many things to counter in your post.

There's definitely nothing special about your brain as you KEEP asking stupid questions.
Why do you keep asking such questions?
Is your brain designed by your God to do so ?

HellVictorinho:

There's definitely nothing special about your brain as you KEEP asking stupid questions.
Why do you keep asking such questions?
Is your brain designed by your God to do so ?

As expected. Since they are cornered they resort to their usual insults.

Thses are basic questions asked in debates. But yet this fake Nairaland Atheist claims it is a stupid question.

I have not even asked the complex ones they are hiding.

My brain is designed by God to seek knowledge and my mind to ask questions. I wonder what knowledge your fellow evolved animals are seeking after (afterall you all came from the same source).

But you my friend happens to be the special one, the more rational, you are even browsing on your phone and shining your teeth, while your monkey brothers are in the jungle. Wont you go help them?

I have to retire, you guys have no depth.

Jeromejnr:


As expected. Since they are cornered they resort to their usual insults.

Thses are basic questions asked in debates. But yet this fake Nairaland Atheist claims it is a stupid question.

I have not even asked the complex ones they are hiding.

My brain is designed by God to seek knowledge and my mind to ask questions. I wonder what knowledge your fellow evolved animals are seeking after (afterall you all came from the same source).

But you my friend happens to be the special one, the more rational, you are even browsing on your phone and shining your teeth, while your monkey brothers are in the jungle. Wont you go help them?

I have to retire, you guys have no depth.

A debate could be an exercise in futility.
I can see that you like participating in such unnecessary activities.
I've got more stupid questions for you:
1.Why do humans sing?
2.Why do humans bear names?
3.Why do humans dance?
4.Why do humans listen to music?
5.Why do humans tell jokes?
Note:These are stupid questions to be considered by the dumber ones.

HellVictorinho:

A debate could be an exercise in futility.
I can see that you like participating in such unnecessary activities.
I've got more stupid questions for you:
1.Why do humans sing?
2.Why do humans bear names?
3.Why do humans dance?
4.Why do humans listen to music?
5.Why do humans tell jokes?
Note:These are stupid questions to be considered by the dumber ones.

I gave up on you a long time ago.

Jeromejnr:



Lol..bros..you have not answered my question o.

Stop confusing innate intelligence or instinct with reasoning.

I asked a question on reasoning not intelligence. All animals are intelligent in their own way. But animals who have been around before humans cannot reason like humans as I earlier explained.

As for your speech on wolves, I would like you to reread what you wrote again and carefully apply what you wrote to human behaviour and see if it makes sense.

As for your last statement on evolution, I will keep my attacking questions until after you have answered my question.

So the question again, why cant any other specie of animal apply rational reasoning the way man does to curb the excesses of man? At least there is supposed to be at least one out there. What is so special about man who just came recently to the earth?

Oh there are many things to counter in your post.

What exactly do you understand by reasoning?

Jeromejnr:


I gave up on you a long time ago.

In other words,you can't answer stupid questions but you expect Hell to do so.

HellVictorinho:


In other words,you can't answer stupid questions but you expect Hell to do so.

I will allow you successfully dodge the questions.

Jeromejnr:


I gave up on you a long time ago.

Do unto others as you would like them to do unto you.

HellVictorinho:

Do unto others as you would like them to do unto you.

Artful Dodger.

Jeromejnr:




I will allow you successfully dodge the questions.

What about my questions?

HellVictorinho:

What about my questions?

Yh..the questions you used to dodge my questions.

It's okay to say you dont know . Besides, I have addressed whatever question you might ask in my reply to someone else in the thread. If you are a man of good intellect, you will recognise which answers fit to your various questions.

But, I wont reply anything until my questions are answered.

Jeromejnr:


Artful Dodger.

Why do humans ask stupid questions?

HellVictorinho:

Why do humans ask stupid questions?

Because a stupid answer is expected from someone like u...

You’re welcome

HellVictorinho:

Why do humans ask stupid questions?

And how do you know a question is stupid? Did your capacity to understand stupid evolve as well?

Is any question really stupid at all? Why should a toddler asking a question not be stupid but an adult with the same be seen as stupid?

What is stupid? Who defined stupid? Is stupid a universal law that exists in an abstract form?

Where did you get the sense to judge a thing as stupid? Why do you think you are not stupid? Does stupid exist?

Dont dodge my earlier question sir.

Jeromejnr:


And how do you know a question is stupid? Did your capacity to understand stupid evolve as well?

Is any question really stupid at all? Why should a toddler asking a question not be stupid but an adult with the same be seen as stupid?

What is stupid? Who defined stupid? Is stupid a universal law that exists in an abstract form?

Where did you get the sense to judge a thing as stupid? Why do you think you are not stupid? Does stupid exist?

Dont dodge my earlier question sir.

Good question... I wish God could open their understanding

Jeromejnr:


Yh..the questions you used to dodge my questions.

It's okay to say you dont know . Besides, I have addressed whatever question you might ask in my reply to someone else in the thread. If you are a man of good intellect, you will recognise which answers fit to your various questions.

But, I wont reply anything until my questions are answered.

Did you know that humans also REFUSE to answer questions directly when they feel the person asking the questions should know the correct answer?
Besides, you never had to answer my tricky questions.
If you were a man of common sense,you would have understood that I was just pulling your goddamn legs.
Ultimately, the effects of your experiences on your brain determine your REASONING/ASSESSMENT OF THINGS/PERSONALITY at whatever time and at whatever place or in whatever environment.

Jamesrock:


Because a stupid answer is expected from someone like u...

You’re welcome

Perhaps,you taught me how to ask such questions.

HellVictorinho:

Perhaps,you taught me how to ask such questions.

You’re pained and I understand

Lol

Jamesrock:


Good question... I wish God could open their understanding

Hmmmnnn,.
Why do you wash your food with water instead of petrol before cooking?

HellVictorinho:

Hmmmnnn,.
Why do you wash your food with water instead of petrol before cooking?

Cos you’ve lost ur Godamn mind

HellVictorinho:

Did you know that humans also REFUSE to answer questions directly when they feel the person asking the questions should know the correct answer?
Besides, you never had to answer my tricky questions.
If you were a man of common sense,you would have understood that I was just pulling your goddamn legs.
Ultimately, the effects of your experiences on your brain determine your REASONING/ASSESSMENT OF THINGS/PERSONALITY at whatever time and at whatever place or in whatever environment.

I know in your mind you think you have answered my questions, but newsflash: you haven't.

Bros! Stop disturbing me if you know you cant give scientific facts for rational decisions.

Jamesrock:


You’re pained and I understand

If you really know how to read,you would have sensed that I was just pulling your friend's leg when I asked him those questions.
Besides,I am far from pained as a result of his insignificant posts.
Need I also tell you that we don't always have to debate?
There are certain things that are bound to happen.

Jamesrock:


You’re pained and I understand

If you really know how to read,you would have sensed that I was just pulling your friend's leg when I asked him those questions.
Besides,I am far from pained as a result of his insignificant posts.
Need I also tell you that we don't always have to debate?
There are certain things that are bound to happen.

Jamesrock:


Cos you’ve lost ur Godamn mind

Like seriously?
Do you really believe that a person that washes his or her food with water has lost his or her goddamn mind?
What's going on in your head?