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Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Gaddafiyusf(m): 3:45pm On Apr 12, 2020
[quote author=hisexcellency34 post=88357514]I wonder why Fowler is not in EFCC custody with all the atrocities he committed at FIRS[/quopte]

Audio atrocities
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by greypencils: 3:45pm On Apr 12, 2020
etokhana:


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/387431-firs-under-fowler-virtually-collapsed-i-had-to-rebuild-from-scratch-nami.html
And rebuilding the entire structure took him four months shey? You would know an idiot when you see one

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Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Adaogwashi1(f): 3:46pm On Apr 12, 2020
foleskay:

You're now so demented that you couldn't spell Yoruba correctly again? O go sha
What is my business with how I spell Yoorruba? cheesy






I still remain Ada ogwashi cool
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by mushystuff: 3:47pm On Apr 12, 2020
fairfora:
So you believe that crap too? Fowler had delivered the revenue to the apc-led govt in one year, what they couldn't earn in 3 years of GEJ. I'm not a fan of APC but at least, the record is there. Let's see what the new mr integrity would deliver to the fed govt, hoping he wouldn't complain of sabotage later as Fashola did as minister of power, works and housing. It's as good as saying the current JAMB Director didn't make any revenue for the fed govt if replaced by an hausa or northern man.

fairfora:
Fowler used the lagos model, which had worked well also at the federal level. Nigeria earned more during fowler compared to his predecessor.

Even the query Fowler received and responded to clearly showed that he raised mess revenue between 2015 - 2018 than was received under the GEJ tenure between 2012-2014. Stop the lies please!

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Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Adaogwashi1(f): 3:49pm On Apr 12, 2020
adelaja70:

Must you yarn dust all the time... Grow up man and stop making a fool of yourself....
Whoever that is reading my foolishness and replying to it is a bigger fool cheesy





I still remain Ada ogwashi cool
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by ejanla077: 3:50pm On Apr 12, 2020
itsme01:
cool



Aboki people and their nonsense talks.. Fowler's records are there for all to see


if it is standard of education US trained Fowler beats Ahmadu Bello University quota system Nami to stupor

if its Tax collected what he earned are documented for all to see, he got all the TAX by widening Tax bracket, going after defaulters and having more people pay Tax rather than increasing VAT and frustrating ordinary Nigerians like Nami did

This Aboki guy would destroy FIRS's working policy like the dumb Buhari's Girlfriend and Minister of Humanitarian had destroyed everything Professor Osinbajo worked for with Social Intervention Program

Dunce doesn't even understand the concept of Tax Holidays Fowler gave for some critical sectors


.
. U mean the 90 billi d prof stole from tradermoni
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by itsme01: 3:50pm On Apr 12, 2020
Adaogwashi1:
Whoever that is reading my foolishness and replying to it is a bigger fool cheesy





I still remain Ada ogwashi cool

Ada the Birthday girl where is my cake.. was the first to wish you Happy Birthday

if you like get to the top one day and don't pack your trusted people in the game, you might End up like goodluck and Aguyi Ironsi
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Generalnomercy: 3:51pm On Apr 12, 2020
It collapsed because Fowler flooded firs with only Yorubas.

Sorry that's what you get when you make a Yoruba head of any agency.

those who will quote me knows it's true.
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by itsme01: 3:51pm On Apr 12, 2020
ejanla077:
. U mean the 90 billi d prof stole from tradermoni

why not talk with proof?
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Generalnomercy: 3:53pm On Apr 12, 2020
Olalan:
What is it with people always trying to discredit their predecessors when they assume office. It's a bad leadership trait and an excuse for failure

Yorubas started it
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by laykman(m): 3:56pm On Apr 12, 2020
If all went according to how I read it, then Fowler is by far a better leader. He broadened the tax revenue platform by delving into several other sectors of tax collection, and he reduced corruption in the FIRS by appointing tax consultants instead of the regular staff in the organization. People will cry when they aren't able to steal from their usual spot.

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Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by GofGs: 3:57pm On Apr 12, 2020
Can we have facts and pieces of evidence?

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Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Urchman200: 3:57pm On Apr 12, 2020
itsme01:
cool



Aboki people and their nonsense talks.. Fowler's records are there for all to see


if it is standard of education US trained Fowler beats Ahmadu Bello University quota system Nami to stupor

if its Tax collected what he earned are documented for all to see, he got all the TAX by widening Tax bracket, going after defaulters and having more people pay Tax rather than increasing VAT and frustrating ordinary Nigerians like Nami did

This Aboki guy would destroy FIRS's working policy like the dumb Buhari's Girlfriend and Minister of Humanitarian had destroyed everything Professor Osinbajo worked for with Social Intervention Program

Dunce doesn't even understand the concept of Tax Holidays Fowler gave for some critical sectors


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after reading this ,will it changed zomby perception about Buhari led administration?
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by bakynes3: 3:58pm On Apr 12, 2020
Fowler is a renowned Accountant that increased the tax net of both Lagos and Nigeria as a whole is now who this Nami is blaming. Well we all know Abba Kyari brought him and all he wanted was to reduce Tinubu's influence in Buhari's gunment( like Aboki will say). How do u expect Fowler to meet his target when the economy was in a reccession? People lost jobs and businesses folded up when Buhari assumed office in 2015 ( because of decline in global oil price)and it was not until late 2016 before the oil price began to rise again steadily.
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by nedekid: 3:59pm On Apr 12, 2020
MetaPhysical:
Anyone who succeeds a previous administration of a parastatal and has to scrap what his predecessor left, however much it was mismanaged, is himself a worse manager and administrator.

Namu is already revealing himself as bad administrator if he had to start all over.

Tunde Fowler came from the Lagos Management Structure. They have a tradition of successful sustainment. As much opposition existed between Ambode and Sanwo-Olu, the current administration did not scrap what was handed over.....he merely rearranged few policies and continued on.

That structure in Lagos is attestation to the competence and performance of all that graduated from it and are today dispersed into different political offices, Federal, State and Local.

Which structure did Namu come from, what shaped his political philosophy? Wherever it is should be examined, it will explain his deficiency in technocracy.
I think the issue is that he took the tax structure of "consultants" ie alfabeta to the federal level making civil servants redundant while enriching is controllers.
This is also political as the powers that be will want to cut the funding to the Lagos landlord ie 2023.
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by NaijadrivaCars: 4:00pm On Apr 12, 2020
That is the line Fulani's use in ruling. Divide and rule.
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by itsme01: 4:03pm On Apr 12, 2020
Urchman200:
after reading this ,will it changed zomby perception about Buhari led administration?

Mr Ipob, Oligarchy or Hierarchy of Governance and Administration supersede just Buhari or a man
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Nobody: 4:05pm On Apr 12, 2020
hisexcellency34:
I wonder why Fowler is not in EFCC custody with all the atrocities he committed at FIRS
He was using tinubu's company as consultant to siphon taxpayers money for his godfather.
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Urchman200: 4:05pm On Apr 12, 2020
NockMedia:
Nami is a sentimental bigot. No matter how bad Fowler was during his tenure, he deserves some praise for his efforts. It could have been worse.
Nami should learn to see the good in people and speak well about them, especially his predecessors.
I just spotted another zomby who used to derive joy in blaming Jonathan administration,but can't allow their boy to be blamed,u try well well, the administration after this joke will let us know all the truth we need not zomby opinion.

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Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by ADsoft(m): 4:06pm On Apr 12, 2020
Staro:


Fowler deserves praises for what effort exactly ?
For superintending over a declining revenue generation since 2015 ?
What is bad in telling him to his face that he failed ?
.

Read very well before commenting
"FIRS under him has performed better regarding specific non-oil tax types, such as VAT and CIT."
The shortage from the oil related tax wasn't the fault of FIRS but as a result of how oil business as a country was faring
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Nobody: 4:07pm On Apr 12, 2020
Wickedfacts:


Please, today is Easter Sunday. I expect your brain to have resurrected. Don't ask me foolish questions. Direct your questions to Lanre Isa Onilu, the Publicity Secretary of the Apc.
I will rather direct it to their foolish online soldiers who help in watering their planted lies
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Asour: 4:07pm On Apr 12, 2020
itsme01:
cool



Aboki people and their nonsense talks.. Fowler's records are there for all to see


if it is standard of education US trained Fowler beats Ahmadu Bello University quota system Nami to stupor

if its Tax collected what he earned are documented for all to see, he got all the TAX by widening Tax bracket, going after defaulters and having more people pay Tax rather than increasing VAT and frustrating ordinary Nigerians like Nami did

This Aboki guy would destroy FIRS's working policy like the dumb Buhari's Girlfriend and Minister of Humanitarian had destroyed everything Professor Osinbajo worked for with Social Intervention Program

Dunce doesn't even understand the concept of Tax Holidays Fowler gave for some critical sectors


.

I don't know about the inner workings of Fowler's tenure at the FIRS but some of your accusations are not true.

e.g.
No single person bar the President including the can FIRS boss can single handedly increase VAT rate in the country as you've accused Nami.

The bill that sought to increase VAT rate amongst other tax issues was developed under Fowler's leadership. if Nami was appointed in Dec 2019 and the bill increasing VAT is called Finance bill 2019, How then did he architect it?

I don't hold forte for any Nigerian leader but departing from comparing both leaders based on personal merits on the job and jumping to use of 'status' of school attended is a very poor proxy.

Assuming you schooled here in Nigeria, I suppose you do not think your contemporaries in the US(in your field) are all better than you merely by schooling in the US— even though the standard of education is better there generally.

N.B. I am not a northerner. In fact, I am even a Southerner.

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Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Nobody: 4:07pm On Apr 12, 2020
mushystuff:




Even the query Fowler received and responded to clearly showed that he raised mess revenue between 2015 - 2018 than was received under the GEJ tenure between 2012-2014. Stop the lies please!
ok. I dare you post the revenues of 4 years of GEJ when money was flowing left, right and centre and compare with 3 years of fowler. If you can't do that,.please do is a favour by remaining mum. Don't bother to do the same on JAMB revenue when professor Dibu Ojetrinde was there as DG and what was earned since the new DG took office because that would be too much a job for you or NIPOST during GEJ era and that of NIPOST of Buhari regime. Some people worked during Buhari-led administration while many didn't do anything, including his cabinet appointees and Burantai, COAS. I'm waiting
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by ahiboilandgas: 4:08pm On Apr 12, 2020
itsme01:
cool



Aboki people and their nonsense talks.. Fowler's records are there for all to see


if it is standard of education US trained Fowler beats Ahmadu Bello University quota system Nami to stupor

if its Tax collected what he earned are documented for all to see, he got all the TAX by widening Tax bracket, going after defaulters and having more people pay Tax rather than increasing VAT and frustrating ordinary Nigerians like Nami did

This Aboki guy would destroy FIRS's working policy like the dumb Buhari's Girlfriend and Minister of Humanitarian had destroyed everything Professor Osinbajo worked for with Social Intervention Program

Dunce doesn't even understand the concept of Tax Holidays Fowler gave for some critical sectors, many of the best Nigerian roads under constrction are due to the tax holiday given to company like Dangote and others


.
clown who give tax holidays fgn or firs
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Nobody: 4:09pm On Apr 12, 2020
itsme01:
cool



Aboki people and their nonsense talks.. Fowler's records are there for all to see


if it is standard of education US trained Fowler beats Ahmadu Bello University quota system Nami to stupor

if its Tax collected what he earned are documented for all to see, he got all the TAX by widening Tax bracket, going after defaulters and having more people pay Tax rather than increasing VAT and frustrating ordinary Nigerians like Nami did

This Aboki guy would destroy FIRS's working policy like the dumb Buhari's Girlfriend and Minister of Humanitarian had destroyed everything Professor Osinbajo worked for with Social Intervention Program

Dunce doesn't even understand the concept of Tax Holidays Fowler gave for some critical sectors


.

stop talking nonsense, his record is indeed there to see, he failed to meet his targets for every year he was FIRS boss..simple. The good thing is that this new man has been so critical of Fowler, he has set a rod for his own back....he cant afford not to deliver especially if as he claims Fowler was so incompetent.

Personally, I dont take success in Lagos state as a yard stick. 1) It is easy to raise IGR in Lagos, 2) People are easily satisfied with mediocre performance....in such circumstances it is easy for your star to shine beyond your levels of true competence.

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Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Nobody: 4:09pm On Apr 12, 2020
MadamExcellency:


What are you smoking?

Aih yaa, it's intoxicating
I'm smoking sense. If in doubt please post here the revenues of 3 years of GEJ when money was in abundance and that of Fowler in 3 years with lean economy and let's compare. If you can't do that, I call you a coward sir
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by maybanks: 4:10pm On Apr 12, 2020
ejanla077:
. U mean the 90 billi d prof stole from tradermoni

Proof of the 90billion or thunder strikes your father?

Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by selemempe: 4:10pm On Apr 12, 2020
itsme01:
cool



Aboki people and their nonsense talks.. Fowler's records are there for all to see


if it is standard of education US trained Fowler beats Ahmadu Bello University quota system Nami to stupor

if its Tax collected what he earned are documented for all to see, he got all the TAX by widening Tax bracket, going after defaulters and having more people pay Tax rather than increasing VAT and frustrating ordinary Nigerians like Nami did

This Aboki guy would destroy FIRS's working policy like the dumb Buhari's Girlfriend and Minister of Humanitarian had destroyed everything Professor Osinbajo worked for with Social Intervention Program

Dunce doesn't even understand the concept of Tax Holidays Fowler gave for some critical sectors, many of the best Nigerian roads under constrction are due to the tax holiday given to company like Dangote and others


.
yorubas and chest beating....chai
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by Daboomb: 4:11pm On Apr 12, 2020
hisexcellency34:
I wonder why Fowler is not in EFCC custody with all the atrocities he committed at FIRS

Because aside the fact that he uses "Consultants", an euphemism for rogues like Tinubu's Alphabeta, it means all tha accusations are hogwash, just a smokescreen for Buhari to justify the imposition of another Herdsman as knife bearer of our National Cake. undecided undecided undecided

The man keep shouting Collapse! Collapse!! Collapse!!! all over the place, he should break it down and tell us how it was collapsed and what he did to rebuild.
You can fool some people sometimes but you cant fool all the people all the time.
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by mushystuff: 4:13pm On Apr 12, 2020
fairfora:
ok. I dare you post the revenues of 4 years of GEJ when money was flowing left, right and centre and compare with 3 years of fowler. If you can't do that,.please do is a favour by remaining mum. Don't bother to do the same on JAMB revenue when professor Dibu Ojetrinde was there as DG and what was earned since the new DG took office because that would be too much a job for you or NIPOST during GEJ era and that of NIPOST of Buhari regime. Some people worked during Buhari-led administration while many didn't do anything, including his cabinet appointees and Burantai, COAS. I'm waiting

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/12/10/news-analysis-abba-kyaris-query-that-sacked-fowler/amp/

I don't need to go hunting for figures. Fowler was issued a query to that effect and he did not deny or disprove it. That more than answers the question.

This link contains Fowler's response to the query: https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/fowler-replies-kyari-blames-revenue-shortfall-on-recession/%3famp=1
Re: Nami: FIRS Under Fowler Virtually Collapsed, I Had To Rebuild From Scratch by MondayOsunbor(m): 4:13pm On Apr 12, 2020
hisexcellency34:
I wonder why Fowler is not in EFCC custody with all the atrocities he committed at FIRS


fulani politics 101

una remeber buhari went through that phase too

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