funmijoyb:

Name the first Oba of Benin?

Where is he from?

wax101:


Yoruba-fulani man, EMIR OF ILORIN instead of OBA OF ILORIN. Una nor dey shame?

Ghostwon65:

Oh, the first Oba if Benin...hmmm. You must believe you are very smart.
Look, that information is not available to mankind.
Indeed, when the first Oba if Benin was crowned, there was nobody who could write in the region to write it down. What you think you know is actually a made up story with no proof. A myth in short.
But you lack the intellectual ability to distinguish between myth and history:

History comes with proof.

And the Obvious answer to where the first Oba if Benin is from: within Benin empire ! That is so obvious it really shows how brainwashed you are to even ask it.

Instead if facing you conquered people's status, you are desperately trying to rewrite Benin history.

adelaja70:

IF Na by shame why Benin dey call their king OBA

Okoroawusa:

They claim Fulani but are neither full blooded Fulanis nor can they speak the language.
The Ilorin people are more Yoruba than Fulani even the Emir,Chiefs and all. They bear Islamic names first, followed by Yoruba names then either another Islamic name or Yoruba name as surname. Even the Emir of Ilorin.

There are so many intricacies associated with Ilorin and as a historian that is what makes history interesting. The Illorin people have learnt to embrace and live with the intricacies of their history. Let us respect that.
After all how many of us can tell well detailed history of our ancestry beyond grandfather n at most great grand father.

I think the Ilorin people have a rich cultural heritage.

funmijoyb:

Benin people know their history...it was a Yoruba Oba that created Oba title in Benin

Ghostwon65:

The title Oba belongs to Benin, the Yoruba copied it !
You Yoruba are shameless !
Soon you will be claiming emir as well.

funmijoyb:

Benin people know their history...it was a Yoruba Oba that created Oba title in Benin.

All Obas are Yorubas

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oba_of_Benin

Ghostwon65:

Wtf, I am a "Benin person" in other words an Edo.
You Yoruba are really brain dead.
I am telling you there is no ife "prince" who became the first Oba of Benin, the story is backed by no proof !
It is a myth !

funmijoyb:

Listen.

Read yourself, coming directly from the Ogiso of Benin.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/

Ghostwon65:

So Wikipedia is your new source ?
Dude, you are brain damaged, it is the random Thomas who writes and modifies Wikipedia.
Face the facts you know nothing about history.
The word Oba is the title if the Oba of Benin, the Yoruba copied it, like they copied many other things from many other tribes.

Ghostwon65:

No the Oba of Benins source is Benin empire !
Yoruba don't have Oba, you borrowed the title from the Oba of Benin.

Receive sense



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2Tac1gNPU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8flCwvoAU

Also please help me locate the following things:

1) Bight of ife
2) Bight of oyo
3) Bight of Yoruba
4) ife Republic
5) oyo Republic
6) Yoruba Republic
7) oyo bronze


The emperor of Benin empire is titled:
OMO N'OBA N'EDO. Oba in short.

In the precolonial era, Yoruba chiefs didn't refer to themselves as "Oba". Rather they referred to themselves as ooni, alafin...
In the colonial era Yoruba chiefs started naming themselves in the following manner: "ooni of ife, sir adeyemi", "alafin of oyo, sir adetoye"...
Notice the introduction of two non Yoruba words: "of" and "sir".
The "sir" is a word from English nobility which the yorubas borrowed from the British in order to add some prestige to their titles.

However, later in the colonial era, the Yoruba dropped the word "sir" and replaced it with the word "Oba", yet an other non Yoruba word.

The word Oba belongs to Benin empire, it is how Benin empire calls it's emperor as witnessed by European visitors in the middle ages.

Basically, Yoruba copy other tribes a lot:
2) emir from Fulani
3) "sir" from the British
1) Oba from Benin

Even some Benin traditional swords were copied by the Yoruba.

You guys like to imitate other people's cultures, face this fact and move on.

Rather than claiming what is actually yours (illorin) you are too busy trying to claim the emperor of Benin empire as a "random Yoruba Oba".
Well it is good to dream, but reality says otherwise.
When you copy other people's titles you should say thank you to the people, not turn around to claim those peoples king belongs to you.

Ghostwon65:


What you are saying makes no fvcking sense.
1) the ogiso are a myth
2) in the 1400's, the Portuguese met an emperor titled Oba leading Benin empire.
3) therefor, if there were ever any ogiso (of which there was never any) it would have been before the 1400's.
So tell me which time capsule your imaginary ogiso used to travel to our era and grant that interview ?
Do you have a brain ?

funmijoyb:


I gave out three sources for you

1. Oba of Benin speech

2. Wikipedia

3. Ogiso of Benin article.

Ogiso is for Edos till this day Oba is Yoruba till tomorrow.

adelaja70:

Why you dey lie?... Google what they are called before and why they change to OBA later.. I'm a BENIN MAN so no lie o

funmijoyb:

Go straight the palace they will tell you the plain truth.

I asked simple question, you refused to answer me.

Who was the first Oba of Benin?
If you don't know, go and read coronation speech of the Oba of Benin. He mentioned it there.

adelaja70:

GOD bless you... I'm Benin man from a prominent family. But i no dey support lie.

funmijoyb:

Benin still have the Ogiso till today but totally subdued..not myth.

funmijoyb:

Even Oba of Benin have told them half of the truth.

Ghostwon65:


I have already replied you. Simple logics you Anne accept !
Nobody knows who As the first Oba of Benin.
The current Oba if Benin in his coronation was quoting an Edo myth born in the 1930's which claims the first ooni if ife is an Edo prince and his son is the first Oba of Benin.
But you Yoruba like to pick which part of the myth to believe and which part to reject.
The fact is, all these are myths, made up stories.

See how illorin's problems has fully turned into discussion about Benin, you guys are just obsessed with Benin.
No day passes without you mentioning Benin.
You worship us.

Ghostwon65:


I have already replied you. Simple logics you Anne accept !
Nobody knows who As the first Oba of Benin.
The current Oba if Benin in his coronation was quoting an Edo myth born in the 1930's which claims the first ooni if ife is an Edo prince and his son is the first Oba of Benin.
But you Yoruba like to pick which part of the myth to believe and which part to reject.
The fact is, all these are myths, made up stories.

See how illorin's problems has fully turned into discussion about Benin, you guys are just obsessed with Benin.
No day passes without you mentioning Benin.
You worship us.

Ghostwon65:

So Wikipedia is your new source ?
Dude, you are brain damaged, it is the random Thomas who writes and modifies Wikipedia.
Face the facts you know nothing about history.
The word Oba is the title if the Oba of Benin, the Yoruba copied it, like they copied many other things from many other tribes.

Ghostwon65:


I have already replied you. Simple logics you Anne accept !
Nobody knows who As the first Oba of Benin.
The current Oba if Benin in his coronation was quoting an Edo myth born in the 1930's which claims the first ooni if ife is an Edo prince and his son is the first Oba of Benin.
But you Yoruba like to pick which part of the myth to believe and which part to reject.
The fact is, all these are myths, made up stories.

See how illorin's problems has fully turned into discussion about Benin, you guys are just obsessed with Benin.
No day passes without you mentioning Benin.
You worship us.

adelaja70:
..
Shut up this man and stop saying what you don't know... My two late uncles were Benin high Chief... That lady schooling you is right.

funmijoyb:

Go and read the Ogiemen history of Benin..where in Benin are u from?

adelaja70:

Chief Edogun of IBIWE and Chief A. E Osunde were my uncle and Benin High Chief...

funmijoyb:

Oba of Lagos cannot say Oba's source is from Benin.

Oba Oranmiyan from Ife founded and created Oba dynasty in Benin. He's from Ife. He's not an Edo prince.

adelaja70:

Chief Edogun of IBIWE and Chief A. E Osunde were my uncle and Benin High Chief...

Ghostwon65:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaiC_djW8o

funmijoyb:
The Oba of Lagos land area is the smallest land area not up to 15% of Lagos.

The other Yoruba Obas of Lagos rule over 85% of Lagos

Ghostwon65:
Yoruba can not live an entire day without mentioning Benin.
It is time to face reality, Yoruba worship Benin.

1)Emir sanusi gets dethroned, the first thing anybody talks about is the Oba of Benin
2) illorin's fate as conquered by Fulani gets mentionnend, the first thing the Yoruba talk about is yet again Benin
3) art in ife is mentionnend, the first thing yet again is to talk about Benin
4) yoruba might is talked about, the first thing yet again is to mention Benin

It is all Benin this, Benin that.
You worship us. Deal with that.