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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 12:36pm On May 30, 2020
bidexiii:



True talk....

Nigerian army needs to do better abeg.

You take care of your soldiers and they would have no excuse not to deliver.

Look at Airforce and Navy guys in the field, always looking like very professional soldiers.

Army guys look like rebels, unprofessional and untrained rebels.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 12:38pm On May 30, 2020
kabe1:


Nigerian army needs to do better abeg.

You take care of your soldiers and they would have no excuse not to deliver.

Look at Airforce and Navy guys in the field, always looking like very professional soldiers.

Army guys look like rebels, unprofessional and untrained rebels.
those guys are special forces they don't stay long in the front line what do u expect..
Haven't u seen NA special forces too

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:38pm On May 30, 2020
Look at the first and middle soldier; what about the top ?
We can’t say he was not issued with complete wear and here is on duty without it grin cheesy grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 12:40pm On May 30, 2020
kabe1:


You're talking crap, brother.

How can this many Nigerian soldiers on operation be looking like this?

Do you think this is what professional soldiers dress like?

Guy read before u quote are u telling me that they deployed these guys with polo and kaki to fight.
On a norm You'll have Your Vest, Helmet and Boots na.
Obviously they'll need replacement and dats what I don't know if the army does dat for dem
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 12:41pm On May 30, 2020
bidexiii:



To some extent @kabe1 especially necessary kits like boots, bullet proof vest and helmets which are basic needs of troops in the frontline.
They would give you complains about the heat and weight.
I think if discipline comes in to play will see most of our frontline troops with this kits.

You see, things get worn out after long usage, so you replace them.

If you send me to war 2 years ago with shining new equipment, won't they have gone bad?

It is your responsibility to replace and provide me with appropriate equipment.

Look at all the operational pictures provided by the military, 93% of troops always lack at least one basic equipment. A very large percentage of the others look like Ojota touts.

I also agree with you on discipline, our troops need to show proper discipline for real. There is always something missing with regards to proper discipline of Nigerian soldiers.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:43pm On May 30, 2020
kabe1:


[/b]Nigerian army needs to do better abeg.[b]

You take care of your soldiers and they would have no excuse not to deliver.

Look at Airforce and Navy guys in the field, always looking like very professional soldiers.

Army guys look like rebels, unprofessional and untrained rebels.

Yeap and also work on soldiers discipline.
We’ve seen European soldiers like France in Mali
and Afghan inside the hot weather well kitted and with 10-20kg bag-pack.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 12:45pm On May 30, 2020
Toju200:
those guys are special forces they don't stay long in the front line what do u expect..
Haven't u seen NA special forces too

What sort of rubbish are you writing.

Who told you all the Navy and Air Force guys in the field are special forces?

NAF Regiment is not a special forces unit, it is the ground combat unit of the Air Force. It is the Panthers that are commandos, the red berets.

NAF Regiment is modeled after RAF Regiment.

You do yourself some good by researching properly before making comments.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 12:46pm On May 30, 2020
bidexiii:


Yeap and also work on soldiers discipline.
We’ve seen European soldiers like France in Mali
and Afghan inside the hot weather well kitted and with 10-20kg bag-pack.

For real, OK, let's not compare with Europe, they have by far more money than us.

What about Senegal, Uganda and Kenya soldiers. Always well kitted.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 12:48pm On May 30, 2020
bidexiii:
Look at the Middle first and soldier; what about the top ?
We can’t say he was not issued with complete wear and here is on duty without it grin cheesy grin

The 3 soldiers, I mean Nigerian army should try for these guys abeg.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 1:03pm On May 30, 2020
kabe1:


What sort of rubbish are you writing.

Who told you all the Navy and Air Force guys in the field are special forces?

NAF Regiment is not a special forces unit, it is the ground combat unit of the Air Force. It is the Panthers that are commandos, the red berets.

NAF Regiment is modeled after RAF Regiment.

You do yourself some good by researching properly before making comments.
still dey don't stay long in the front line..
What about the SBS why didn't u pick dat one out of my Comment grin
Or are they Just Seamen or whatever Naval infantry grin
Guy u go do research u supposed know NAF and NN guys in the Front line aren't ordinary Guys

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 1:09pm On May 30, 2020
kabe1:


For real, OK, let's not compare with Europe, they have by far more money than us.

What about Senegal, Uganda and Kenya soldiers. Always well kitted.
I'll go with Kenya but Uganda and Senegal under what condition are they operating.....
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 1:40pm On May 30, 2020
bidexiii:


That’s your conclusion or take and you’re far from been right.
Like I said the military is not everyone, And who told you that the child of top military men do not go to the war front. Guys like you just like to talk rubbish, they didn’t come to your house to come and join the military.
Let me give you a typical example of a General whose son was in the frontline; Maj Gen Victor Okwudili Ezugwu when he was the acting G.O.C div 7 his son was in the north east frontlines and I know couple of prominent Nigerians whose sons where serving in the north east, so stop spitting trash of what you don’t know.

Obasanjo's son was wounded at the onset of this war.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 1:55pm On May 30, 2020
kabe1:


For real, OK, let's not compare with Europe, they have by far more money than us.

What about Senegal, Uganda and Kenya soldiers. Always well kitted.


grin shocked grin
Remove Senegal and Uganda....
Kenya dey try pass us for kitting

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 2:08pm On May 30, 2020
kabe1:


For real, OK, let's not compare with Europe, they have by far more money than us.

What about Senegal, Uganda and Kenya soldiers. Always well kitted.

That's not true and it not the pertinent issue.

In Europe if a General over night became a millionaire, and had assets in excess of his earnings. He would have a lot of explaining to do, not being praised as a trail blazer of innovation and competence.

You have several degrees of compliance with independent checks and balances. Continous audit. To ensure outcome delivery standards are kept and casualties kept to the outmost lowest.

A situation where combatants are not paid or underpaid. Or deployment in theatre exceeds agreed time limits almost impossible.

Add to that the oversight function of the legislative chambers separate or fused. Parliament essentially gives the common man a very LOUD and CLEARLY DISCERNABLE VOICE.

Nigerian combatants are expected to be dehumanised and say yes sir no matter the circumstances. In otherwords die in silence and when they talk some if us perversely condemn them.

Senegal, Uganda and Kenya are not our peers. Our peers are Algeria, Egypt, South Africa.

The problem is ourselves a mixture of ignorance and shameless sycophantic praise singing of incompetent leaders political and military. As a consequence we enthronme mediocrity and create way below par expectations.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 2:10pm On May 30, 2020
komekn:


That's not true and it not the pertinent issue.

In Europe if a General over night became a millionaire, and had assets in excess of his earnings. He would have a lot of explaining to do, not being praised as a trail blazer of innovation and competence.

You have several degrees of compliance with independent checks and balances. Continous audit. To ensure outcome delivery standards are kept and casualties kept to the outmost lowest.

A situation where combatants are not paid or underpaid. Or deployment in theatre exceeds agreed time limits almost impossible.

Add to that the oversight function of the legislative chambers separate or fused. Parliament essentially gives the common man a very LOUD and CLEARLY DISCERNABLE VOICE.

Nigerian combatants are expected to be dehumanised and say yes sir no matter the circumstances. In otherwords die in silence and when they talk some if us perversely condemn them.

Senegal, Uganda and Kenya are not our peers. Our peers are Algeria, Egypt, South Africa.

The problem is ourselves a mixture of ignorance and shameless sycophantic praise singing of incompetent leaders political and military. As a consequence we enthronme mediocrity and create way below par expectations.



I always know your comments with a glance grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 2:13pm On May 30, 2020
jpphilips:


Obasanjo's son was wounded at the onset of this war.

Shot in the posterior ( the ass) in Gwoza if I'm right, while carrying out a strategic planned repositioning away from Boko.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by pacretus(m): 2:16pm On May 30, 2020
kabe1:


For real, OK, let's not compare with Europe, they have by far more money than us.

What about Senegal, Uganda and Kenya soldiers. Always well kitted.
are they fighting insurgency on their home soil.?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 2:17pm On May 30, 2020
seankafor:
I always know your comments with a glance grin

I wonder why

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 2:21pm On May 30, 2020
pacretus:
are they fighting insurgency on their home soil.?

Senegal is on the periphery but has been very very proactive in prevention as opposed to reactive.

Uganda has been fighting a number of insurgent activities e.g. Lord's Resistance Movement,etc

Kenya has been engaged with Al Shabab both at home and in Somalia.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 2:22pm On May 30, 2020
pacretus:
are they fighting insurgency on their home soil.?
good question also they aren't fighting under the same condition as we are...

I ain't trying to praise Anybody..
I blame the F**king top rank leaders That are seating in Their office.
But....... the comparison nor work grin grin at all
Take the ECOWAS deployment to Gambia for Example sef
Nigeria &Sengal Deployment
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 2:22pm On May 30, 2020
komekn:


Senegal is on the periphery but has been very very proactive in prevention as opposed to reactive.

Uganda has been fighting a number of insurgent activities e.g. Lord's Resistance Movement,etc

Kenya has been engaged with Al Shabab both at home and in Somalia.



that's why in terms of kitting I'll give Kenyans a Thumbs up
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 2:59pm On May 30, 2020
And how many troops are deployed by these countries some of you are praising? Nowhere close to Nigeria's, if a soldier decide not to properly kit, that's on him and a sign of poor leadership, not because uniforms or boots aren't available.
For anyone to think the military wouldn't provide basic kitting to soldiers is beyond stupid, even if their shoes or whatever are worn out, there is no reason to think they can't get another, unless they have to pay for it, then perhaps that soldier will forgo it, but to say it's not given or available? lord.
Anyone seen our troops dress the way some do now when deployed on foreign missions? No, and those other African countries mentioned, i believe are deployed for foreign missions, and not even in massive numbers ( guessing here).
Our troops have been at this for what? about 10yrs or more? Perhaps i should go online and root out pics of Syrian soldiers as well, and you'd see some of them not well kitted either, as time goes on, all that kitting and sh@t weighs down on troops and they start letting them go one after the other, especially once they are already used to the environment they operate in

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by pacretus(m): 3:25pm On May 30, 2020
komekn:


Senegal is on the periphery but has been very very proactive in prevention as opposed to reactive.

Uganda has been fighting a number of insurgent activities e.g. Lord's Resistance Movement,etc

Kenya has been engaged with Al Shabab both at home and in Somalia.



let me rephrase, are they currently fighting a home grown terror group.?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 4:36pm On May 30, 2020
komekn:


That's not true and it not the pertinent issue.

In Europe if a General over night became a millionaire, and had assets in excess of his earnings. He would have a lot of explaining to do, not being praised as a trail blazer of innovation and competence.

You have several degrees of compliance with independent checks and balances. Continous audit. To ensure outcome delivery standards are kept and casualties kept to the outmost lowest.

A situation where combatants are not paid or underpaid. Or deployment in theatre exceeds agreed time limits almost impossible.

Add to that the oversight function of the legislative chambers separate or fused. Parliament essentially gives the common man a very LOUD and CLEARLY DISCERNABLE VOICE.

Nigerian combatants are expected to be dehumanised and say yes sir no matter the circumstances. In otherwords die in silence and when they talk some if us perversely condemn them.

Senegal, Uganda and Kenya are not our peers. Our peers are Algeria, Egypt, South Africa.

The problem is ourselves a mixture of ignorance and shameless sycophantic praise singing of incompetent leaders political and military. As a consequence we enthronme mediocrity and create way below par expectations.




Facts

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 4:39pm On May 30, 2020
Sizzorkay:
And how many troops are deployed by these countries some of you are praising? Nowhere close to Nigeria's, if a soldier decide not to properly kit, that's on him and a sign of poor leadership, not because uniforms or boots aren't available.
For anyone to think the military wouldn't provide basic kitting to soldiers is beyond stupid, even if their shoes or whatever are worn out, there is no reason to think they can't get another, unless they have to pay for it, then perhaps that soldier will forgo it, but to say it's not given or available? lord.
Anyone seen our troops dress the way some do now when deployed on foreign missions? No, and those other African countries mentioned, i believe are deployed for foreign missions, and not even in massive numbers ( guessing here).
Our troops have been at this for what? about 10yrs or more? Perhaps i should go online and root out pics of Syrian soldiers as well, and you'd see some of them not well kitted either, as time goes on, all that kitting and sh@t weighs down on troops and they start letting them go one after the other, especially once they are already used to the environment they operate in

Have you been to the Northeast? grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 4:41pm On May 30, 2020
By asking that question, why not say what's on your mind? i wouldn't wanna believe Nigeria is that bad that we couldn't provide replacement boots to our troops, you are saying that's the case? If so, state it, no need dancing around it
SamuelAnyawu:


Have you been to the Northeast? grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 5:03pm On May 30, 2020
Sizzorkay:
By asking that question, why not say what's on your mind? i wouldn't wanna believe Nigeria is that bad that we couldn't provide replacement boots to our troops, you are saying that's the case? If so, state it, no need dancing around it

lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 6:02pm On May 30, 2020
Leave me be dude grin grin, shouldn't you be on your way to maiduguri or lake chad this weekend? lol

SamuelAnyawu:


lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 6:04pm On May 30, 2020
Sizzorkay:
Leave me be dude grin grin, shouldn't you be on your way to maiduguri or lake chad this weekend? lol


I have left Lake Chad area to Borno Central. Now it's no more ISWAP wahala but JAS. Tho I'm still hibernating in Maiduguri, but will be off to Borno Central next week

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 6:06pm On May 30, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


I have left Lake Chad area to Borno Central. Now it's no more ISWAP wahala but JAS. Tho I'm still hibernating in Maiduguri, but will be off to Borno Central next week
which one be jas again embarassed
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 6:09pm On May 30, 2020
seankafor:
which one be jas again embarassed

Bokoharam aka Jamā'at Ahl as-Sunnah lid-Da'wah. Omo if you call them Bokoharam na insult oh grin them go slaughter you twice.

Their real name is Jamā'at Ahl as-Sunnah lid-Da'wah grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 6:17pm On May 30, 2020
komekn:


That's not true and it not the pertinent issue.

In Europe if a General over night became a millionaire, and had assets in excess of his earnings. He would have a lot of explaining to do, not being praised as a trail blazer of innovation and competence.

You have several degrees of compliance with independent checks and balances. Continous audit. To ensure outcome delivery standards are kept and casualties kept to the outmost lowest.

A situation where combatants are not paid or underpaid. Or deployment in theatre exceeds agreed time limits almost impossible.

Add to that the oversight function of the legislative chambers separate or fused. Parliament essentially gives the common man a very LOUD and CLEARLY DISCERNABLE VOICE.

Nigerian combatants are expected to be dehumanised and say yes sir no matter the circumstances. In otherwords die in silence and when they talk some if us perversely condemn them.

Senegal, Uganda and Kenya are not our peers. Our peers are Algeria, Egypt, South Africa.

The problem is ourselves a mixture of ignorance and shameless sycophantic praise singing of incompetent leaders political and military. As a consequence we enthronme mediocrity and create way below par expectations.



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