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Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Jadden(m): 8:16am On Jun 04, 2020
khia:


What countries have you been to?
I'll just name the continents without revealing much info.
Africa
Europe
Asia
North America
Australia
It's really good to travel the world if you can.
Unforgettable experiences.
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Jadden(m): 8:21am On Jun 04, 2020
khia:

The last place I want to travel to is a white country. If I NEVER see a white person again it will be too soon.
A bit closed-minded if you ask me.
But hey, I guess that's your prerogative.

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Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by khia: 8:57am On Jun 04, 2020
Jadden:

A bit closed-minded if you ask me.
But hey, I guess that's your prerogative.
No, I just want to experience how it feels to be around nothing but black people for a change. You have the luxury of knowing .

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Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by khia: 8:59am On Jun 04, 2020
Jadden:

I'll just name the continents without revealing much info.
Africa
Europe
Asia
North America
Australia
It's really good to travel the world if you can.
Unforgettable experiences.

How long did you stay in each continent?
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by jojoseph(m): 9:07am On Jun 04, 2020
abbey621:


Damage, yes! Irrepairable damage, No! How can the suffering sof someone from the 1800s affect someone born in the 2000s? At what point do black people stop playing the victim card? Yes we were dealt a terrible hand in life but how did people like MJ, JayZ, Puff, Obama and countless others make it in life? Did they not face the same systematic oppression?

The Jews were basically destroyed in the early to mid 1900s, they came together and decided to uplift one another as a group instead of looking for sympathies from other groups. The Jews today represents the richest group of people on the planet, at which point do we pull ourselves up?

We probably want same for our race but going about it differently. It's unfortunate that you have a vague idea of black race problem. Look at black Americans and black South Africans, these 2 groups suffered from slavery and systematic oppression from the white people. This is the reason why other races see opportunities in America but black Americans could not see them. The same thing is happening in South Africa, other Africans go to South Africa and see opportunities but black South Africans can't see the opportunities. So don't you think there's a similarity between the black Americans and black Africans. The Africans on the other hand suffered from colonization which is responsible their inferiority complex. That's why they can't see opportunities in their continent but Chinese, Indians and Arabs can see the opportunities. Nigerians are the most educated ethnic groups in U.S but they are still one of the poorest immigrants in U.S. But other immigrants with little or no education control the economy of America. Africa is the richest continent in minerals resources still they are the most backward and poorest in the world. Why is this? 90 to 95% of Nigerians will die here in U.S without contributing any meaningful development to Nigeria. Nigerians expect white people to come and help develop their country. How can you said you are not giving up on the black Americans after you called them lazy and ignorant. I just don't want you to look down on the other blacks because you have been able to pull yourself up with your own bootstrap. Remember success in America is temporary, especially if you're a Nigerian. Black race are suffering from the effects of slavery, colonization and religion.

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Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Jadden(m): 9:20am On Jun 04, 2020
khia:


How long did you stay in each continent?
Europe 12 years.
Africa is the base, basically all my life.
Asia, Australia, and North America were just for visits, never spent more than a month.
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Jadden(m): 9:30am On Jun 04, 2020
khia:

No, I just want to experience how it feels to be around nothing but black people for a change. You have the luxury of knowing .
And I tell you, there's nothing luxury about it.
You just want 'what you don't have' kinda mentality.

I tell you this: the whites in America seem to have this superiority and entitlement mentality, but truth be told, it's not how they are generally in other parts of the globe, especially in Europe.

Yes, there will always be pockets of racism here and there, but it's nothing like what blacks have suffered in the hands of the whites in America.

That perception has greatly rubbed off on your psyche, which makes you detest visiting other white man's land, such as Europe.
Europeans are more welcoming, friendlier and accomodating than the American whites.
Have an open mind, take a tour of Europe, and you'll be amazed.
It's not as bad as you think it is!
Europe is different!
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by seunajia: 10:15am On Jun 04, 2020
Beverlyjean:
Blacks are naturally aggressive...most blacks just love to resist arrest compared to the whites...in as much as racism should not b tolerated,but the truth is that it is part of the human mental system... the blacks 4kd up by selling themselves to the whites...the are still fucking up with their mentality... they believe all their problems are caused by the whites...they dint like school and they love crime, they feel going to prison is kool, they hv the highest number of strippers and baby mamas, they don't want to work , rely on child support and drugs... typical lazy entitled black mentality ... policemen are always in constant fear while dealing with them...they have so much hatred for whites and also very racist

This is a rather unfair comment borne out of stereotypes. You shouldn't feel the need to talk if you haven't been there. Don't minimize the suffering of a people you don't know or have never lived with. If Africans were sensible, unlike Americans, how come Africa is still the way it is?

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Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by khia: 12:46pm On Jun 04, 2020
Jadden:

Europe 12 years.
Africa is the base, basically all my life.
Asia, Australia, and North America were just for visits, never spent more than a month.

Why did you go back to Africa?
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by khia: 12:53pm On Jun 04, 2020
Jadden:

And I tell you, there's nothing luxury about it.
You just want 'what you don't have' kinda mentality.

I tell you this: the whites in America seem to have this superiority and entitlement mentality, but truth be told, it's not how they are generally in other parts of the globe, especially in Europe.

Yes, there will always be pockets of racism here and there, but it's nothing like what blacks have suffered in the hands of the whites in America.

That perception has greatly rubbed off on your psyche, which makes you detest visiting other white man's land, such as Europe.
Europeans are more welcoming, friendlier and accomodating than the American whites.
Have an open mind, take a tour of Europe, and you'll be amazed.
It's not bad as you think it is!
Europe is different!

I have heard Africans say that European countries are just as racist but they aren't in your face with it. Americans are in your face with racism while Europeans stab you in the back. I would rather the racist be in my face with it that way I will know my enemy.

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Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by khia: 1:07pm On Jun 04, 2020
jojoseph:


We probably want same for our race but going about it differently. It's unfortunate that you have a vague idea of black race problem. Look at black Americans and black South Africans, these 2 groups suffered from slavery and systematic oppression from the white people. This is the reason why other races see opportunities in America but black Americans could not see them. The same thing is happening in South Africa, other Africans go to South Africa and see opportunities but black South Africans can't see the opportunities. So don't you think there's a similarity between the black Americans and black Africans. The Africans on the other hand suffered from colonization which is responsible their inferiority complex. That's why they can't see opportunities in their continent but Chinese, Indians and Arabs can see the opportunities. Nigerians are the most educated ethnic groups in U.S but they are still one of the poorest immigrants in U.S. But other immigrants with little or no education control the economy of America. Africa is the richest continent in minerals resources still they are the most backward and poorest in the world. Why is this? 90 to 95% of Nigerians will die here in U.S without contributing any meaningful development to Nigeria. Nigerians expect white people to come and help develop their country. How can you said you are not giving up on the black Americans after you called them lazy and ignorant. I just don't want you to look down on the other blacks because you have been able to pull yourself up with your own bootstrap. Remember success in America is temporary, especially if you're a Nigerian. Black race are suffering from the effects of slavery, colonization and religion.


Actually I agree with most of what you posted but these are the things you are wrong about.

1. Nigerians aren't the most educated immigrants in America, Asians are. That was a myth created by a Nigerian.

2. Black Americans see opportunities in America and they are capitalizing on it everyday.
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by khia: 1:21pm On Jun 04, 2020
Beverlyjean:
Blacks are naturally aggressive...most blacks just love to resist arrest compared to the whites...in as much as racism should not b tolerated,but the truth is that it is part of the human mental system... the blacks 4kd up by selling themselves to the whites...the are still fucking up with their mentality... they believe all their problems are caused by the whites...they dint like school and they love crime, they feel going to prison is kool, they hv the highest number of strippers and baby mamas, they don't want to work , rely on child support and drugs... typical lazy entitled black mentality ... policemen are always in constant fear while dealing with them...they have so much hatred for whites and also very racist

I read your rant and in conclusion I see that you are very ignorant. I would like you to answer this question for.me....

Why are the American police so afraid of blacks even when they are unarmed but are extremely relaxed and comfortable when they have to arrest an armed white terrorists who went on a shooting spree killing multiple people? The police officers will arrest them and even take them out to breakfast before taking them to jail. This is a true fact



..

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Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by abbey621(m): 1:54pm On Jun 04, 2020
jojoseph:


We probably want same for our race but going about it differently. It's unfortunate that you have a vague idea of black race problem. Look at black Americans and black South Africans, these 2 groups suffered from slavery and systematic oppression from the white people. This is the reason why other races see opportunities in America but black Americans could not see them. The same thing is happening in South Africa, other Africans go to South Africa and see opportunities but black South Africans can't see the opportunities. So don't you think there's a similarity between the black Americans and black Africans. The Africans on the other hand suffered from colonization which is responsible their inferiority complex. That's why they can't see opportunities in their continent but Chinese, Indians and Arabs can see the opportunities. Nigerians are the most educated ethnic groups in U.S but they are still one of the poorest immigrants in U.S. But other immigrants with little or no education control the economy of America. Africa is the richest continent in minerals resources still they are the most backward and poorest in the world. Why is this? 90 to 95% of Nigerians will die here in U.S without contributing any meaningful development to Nigeria. Nigerians expect white people to come and help develop their country. How can you said you are not giving up on the black Americans after you called them lazy and ignorant. I just don't want you to look down on the other blacks because you have been able to pull yourself up with your own bootstrap. Remember success in America is temporary, especially if you're a Nigerian. Black race are suffering from the effects of slavery, colonization and religion.


Do you have brothers and/or sisters? Then you know that most times when they criticize you or when you criticize them it is not out of hate but out of love. How do you improve if everyone pats you on the back and praise mediocrity? You said Nigerians represents one of the poorest ethnic groups in America....That's a damn lie! The average Nigerian in the USA earns over $40,000 per year, this is twice above the poverty level, comparing it to latinos, Cubans, Haitians and Jamaicans in the USA, Nigerians are still ahead. The average income for black Americans in the USA is even less so this is not even about Nigerians in the USA but the black race as a whole.

I don't know how eloquently I can put this, SLAVERY IS OVER, IT ENDED OVER 150 YEARS AGO! It took a while but after 1980 blacks had as much opportunities to change their lives as 70% of the white population. Let's look at the great Depression that decimated the entire country, majority of the whites after the depression had lost their wealth, status. Yes inequality still existed but that was the beginning of a more balanced equation. By the 1970s and 1980s, blacks had 70% of their rights back. The Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, segragation ended and we started having black graduates, scientists, judges and so on. Blacks started dominating sports, music industry and more. By the 1990s, a black foreigner could come into the USA and become a land/homeowner in less than 3 years, why wouldn't our black Americans be able to do the same? By the 1990s, afffirmative action was in place, which means blacks were given prefential treatment even when they didn't qualify for a position or school. By the 2000s, we had more white people living in poverty than blacks and by the 2010s, Obama already became president.

I'm not arguing with you that slavery and what happened after affected the mentality of blacks in America but at what point do we stop the victim's mentality paralyzing our existence? At what point, do we take responsibility for our action/inaction? Success is never temporary, a winner is always a winner, even when he/she falls, the winning mentality ensures that he/she gets back up & win again!

My parents came to the USA with nothing, they did jobs such as floor cleaner, maid, car washer etc, my dad pushed himself all the way to work for national intelligence, mom pushed herself to become a distinguished dietician. They faced oppression, they faced systematic injustice but they never stopped, they didn't crawl into a hole and say they can't win, they rose above their limitations. We can all rise above our limitations, many black people do this everyday, the real INJUSTICE is giving up!

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Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Jadden(m): 3:25pm On Jun 04, 2020
khia:


Why did you go back to Africa?
A few rare opportunities presented itself, had to go back.
Mission accomplished!
Europe beckons once more.
grin
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Jadden(m): 3:34pm On Jun 04, 2020
khia:


I have heard Africans say that European countries are just as racist but they aren't in your face with it. Americans are in your face with racism while Europeans stab you in the back. I would rather the racist be in my face with it that way I will know my enemy.
Your choice!
I know which I'd prefer though.
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by tex73: 4:27pm On Jun 04, 2020
jojoseph:

I hope you're making a preparation for your old age, because America is a good place for old people especially fwrom Nigeria. No offense please.

Sure i am. Moreover, my parents r both here. Dad is 87 n mom is 74. They actually brought me over.
Hope ur making plans yourself.

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Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by khia: 5:54pm On Jun 04, 2020
Jadden:

A few rare opportunities presented itself, had to go back.
Mission accomplished!
Europe beckons once more.
grin
How long do you plan on staying in Europe this time?
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Jadden(m): 5:56pm On Jun 04, 2020
khia:
How long do you plan on staying in Europe this time?
Till my dreams are achieved.
I have big dreams.
Please don't ask me.
grin
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by khia: 5:58pm On Jun 04, 2020
Jadden:

Till my dreams are achieved.
I have big dreams.
Please don't ask me.
grin
What are your dreams? grin
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Jadden(m): 5:58pm On Jun 04, 2020
khia:

What are your dreams? grin
Big dreams! grin
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by khia: 6:00pm On Jun 04, 2020
Jadden:

Big dreams! grin

What are your BIG dreams,? grin
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Jadden(m): 6:02pm On Jun 04, 2020
khia:


What are your BIG dreams,? grin
I'm still dreaming those big dreams.
When I'm done dreaming, I might just let you know.
For now...inconclusive dreams!
grin
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by tot(f): 6:16pm On Jun 04, 2020
tex73:



Thank you for this. I try to explain to friends that its not that bad here. Just do what's right n mind your business. African-American r aggressive n this is why a white person or cop brings out their own aggression to interact with them. Poeple dont even realize how some African American treats a typical African here. Most whites r cool regardless, just a few bad once. America has a solid foundation. Its a blessed country.

Ahmaud Arbery was minding his business, still he got killed. Na wa for some of you. Thank God for courageous people taking a stand.

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Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Larrykaysail(m): 7:18pm On Jun 04, 2020
PatryG:


Where was your country or your great grandfather country? Everyone in this country except the tribal people came from somewhere not long ago and get naturalized. Do you know that over 10 Million red Indians, the original owner of the country called America were killed by the America founding fathers to lord over this land. Read about your history and stop looking stupid over your ignorance.
how many Nigerians has been killed by the police in united state ?

if you answer my question right, then you will understand where am going
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by khia: 8:10pm On Jun 04, 2020
Jadden:

I'm still dreaming those big dreams.
When I'm done dreaming, I might just let you know.
For now...inconclusive dreams!
grin

Ok. wink
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by jojoseph(m): 8:23pm On Jun 04, 2020
abbey621:


Do you have brothers and/or sisters? Then you know that most times when they criticize you or when you criticize them it is not out of hate but out of love. How do you improve if everyone pats you on the back and praise mediocrity? You said Nigerians represents one of the poorest ethnic groups in America....That's a damn lie! The average Nigerian in the USA earns over $40,000 per year, this is twice above the poverty level, comparing it to latinos, Cubans, Haitians and Jamaicans in the USA, Nigerians are still ahead. The average income for black Americans in the USA is even less so this is not even about Nigerians in the USA but the black race as a whole.

I don't know how eloquently I can put this, SLAVERY IS OVER, IT ENDED OVER 150 YEARS AGO! It took a while but after 1980 blacks had as much opportunities to change their lives as 70% of the white population. Let's look at the great Depression that decimated the entire country, majority of the whites after the depression had lost their wealth, status. Yes inequality still existed but that was the beginning of a more balanced equation. By the 1970s and 1980s, blacks had 70% of their rights back. The Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, segragation ended and we started having black graduates, scientists, judges and so on. Blacks started dominating sports, music industry and more. By the 1990s, a black foreigner could come into the USA and become a land/homeowner in less than 3 years, why wouldn't our black Americans be able to do the same? By the 1990s, afffirmative action was in place, which means blacks were given prefential treatment even when they didn't qualify for a position or school. By the 2000s, we had more white people living in poverty than blacks and by the 2010s, Obama already became president.

I'm not arguing with you that slavery and what happened after affected the mentality of blacks in America but at what point do we stop the victim's mentality paralyzing our existence? At what point, do we take responsibility for our action/inaction? Success is never temporary, a winner is always a winner, even when he/she falls, the winning mentality ensures that he/she gets back up & win again!

My parents came to the USA with nothing, they did jobs such as floor cleaner, maid, car washer etc, my dad pushed himself all the way to work for national intelligence, mom pushed herself to become a distinguished dietician. They faced oppression, they faced systematic injustice but they never stopped, they didn't crawl into a hole and say they can't win, they rose above their limitations. We can all rise above our limitations, many black people do this everyday, the real INJUSTICE is giving up!

I know understand your reasons for your viewpoint. I pray to God to grant you long life and prosperity for you to see what Im trying to convey to you. I came to U.S when I was I9years old in the late 70s and relocated back to Nigeria in 20I0. I sponsored my primary school education by going to the farm early in morning to fetch firewood before going to school and also on weekends. After my elementary schools education, I worked for 2years to save up money for my secondary school education. After my secondary school education, I worked for another 2years to save for my first year tuition and boarding and travel expenses to U.S. I was a junior students when I met my beautiful American wife in the same university. Im saying this to you so you can understand my background. I set up a business in our apartment while both of us were still full time students. Yes I have brothers and sisters but I don't call them lazy and ignorant because I was able to pull myself up through my own bootstrap.
Yes slavery ended I50 years ago but the effects still lingering on, how do you expect majority of people to be perfect when they still have defects in their thinking? And im not making excuses for their shortcomings. The Africans also suffered from effects colonization and that's one of the reasons why you and your parents probably don't have anything to do with Nigeria. You never know where the shoe pinches until you put yourself in their position. You said your parents face injustice and systematic oppression in the hands of white people. How many of your brothers or sister's or niece or nephew being killed or in prison in America? So as you can see experience is quite different.
You said I was wrong when I said Nigerian is one of the poorest immigrants in U.S. for your information, INDIANS control 65 to 85% of hotels businesses in U.S
ARABS control 65% of convenient stores and junkyard businesses in U.S
CHINESE, HISPANICS KOREANS control other businesses such as automobiles, restaurants and retail outlets. Who ever controls economy controls wealth. These other immigrants can raise billions among themselves, but Nigerians can not because most them are just corporate slaves. They lack resources to contribute to the development of their country and that's why majority are stucked and will die here. So you see $40000 per year is nothing because majority are still living pay check to pay check.
You said success is never temporary. And I repeat success in America is temporary. About I5 years ago 3 of my colleagues were millionaires by American standard, have nice houses and businesses but today they are broke and have to be assisted by their town's people to secure apartments for them. And also, there was this Nigerian professor in my old university, this guy was a Dean of school of engineering in the late 70s when i came to this country. He had a house with swimming pool, very nice house, the man just passed away 2years ago. The man took a reverse mortgage on his house before he died which means he didn't leave anything for the next generation. Do you call that a success? Countless Nigerians contribute to bury their fellow Nigerians in U.S your parents can testify to this if they hang around Nigerians.
Now, let me tell you what success look like. I have 8 bedrooms, 4 living rooms, 3 car garage mansion in Nigeria and my fleet of cars consists of R350 mercedes Benz, 230 compressor, E350 Mercedes-Benz and Nissan xterra SUV. And a multi millions naira striving business in Nigeria all these are owned by me and my with no credit. That's what you call success not like credit infected Nigerian that you call success. I visit U.S 2 to 3times a year on business trips and also to see my children. As a matter of fact, Im in los Angeles now, I came in January and got stuck due to corona virus but will be leaving once the airports are opened. You will get my point in about 20 to 30years from now. Everything that Im telling you is from my experience and am very sure your parents will have one or two things to back me up on this.
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by jojoseph(m): 9:59pm On Jun 04, 2020
tex73:


Sure i am. Moreover, my parents r both here. Dad is 87 n mom is 74. They actually brought me over.
Hope ur making plans yourself.

I relocated back to Nigeria in 20I0 after 35years in U.S, im settled down in Nigeria with my businesses. But do visit U.S 2 to 3times a year on business trips and to see my children. I have a lot friends like your parents that brought their children to join them. Good luck.
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by Nobody: 11:08pm On Jun 04, 2020
MansoryMX:
Sometimes these black American can be so stubborn as well whenever a white cop approaches them. No one seems to be say this. I watched a video clip yesterday where these black Americans are abusing fellow black cops with so much disrespect, So irritating. They are just too stubborn and the white cops sees it as an avenue to unleash their hatred for them. What happened to George was pure hatred from that white cop, even after you have successfully submit the dude to the ground and contained every threat, you still kneeled on his neck until he choked out.

you do not understand when people are fed up...nothing else matters...you think its Nigeria where your leaders have basically turned everyone into football and no one can stand up? Gani used to and fellow Nigerians were quick to denounce him...Fela did same and you labeled him an igbo smoker..abeg...if you know what an average american does to avoid being stopped by the police, you will understand...dem don tire
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by tex73: 12:18am On Jun 05, 2020
jojoseph:


I relocated back to Nigeria in 20I0 after 35years in U.S, im settled down in Nigeria with my businesses. But do visit U.S 2 to 3times a year on business trips and to see my children. I have a lot friends like your parents that brought their children to join them. Good luck.

Well done sir, thats admirable. I plan to relocate n do the visits just like u doing. Wating for my kids to get older.
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by jojoseph(m): 1:56am On Jun 05, 2020
tex73:


Well done sir, thats admirable. I plan to relocate n do the visits just like u doing. Wating for my kids to get older.
That's great. And God will continue to guide you, we have to help build our country. Thanks.
Re: Nedum Onuoha: I Don't Feel Safe In The US by GingerBreadMan: 4:27pm On Jun 14, 2020
Jadden:

......Yes, there will always be pockets of racism here and there, but it's nothing like what blacks have suffered in the hands of the whites in America.

That perception has greatly rubbed off on your psyche, which makes you detest visiting other white man's land, such as Europe.
Europeans are more welcoming, friendlier and accomodating than the American whites.
Have an open mind, take a tour of Europe, and you'll be amazed.
It's not as bad as you think it is!
Europe is different!
GingerBreadMan:
Those mônkey chants at all European football games makes me think there is quite a lot of outward racism. I haven’t heard of such happening at US sporting events - US police issues aside.

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