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The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 7:11am On Jun 21, 2020
The Arrogance of Pentecostalism

Permit me to set the ball rolling with this daring statement " pentecostals are arrogant "

Before you get it twisted ,the writer is one himself. I've never been a member of any orthodox establishment, except for a few times we've had to pray together on prayer mountains.

Self righteous pentecostals gaze at white garment and Orthodox churches through the lens of disdain and resentment , while parading themselves as the custodian of the Holy Spirit.

The popular notion that all white garment churches are fake,fetish and hell bound is born out of the womb of religiosity, pomposity and self imposed doctrines.

Ask an average Pentecostal what he thinks of White garment folks, the response will only gravitate in the direction of condemnation.

They never believe that the Holy ghost recognizes them let alone dwell in their midst to work signs and wonders.

Unknown to the over rated Penterascals , diabolic and fetishistic practises has crept in and strongly holds sway underneath the designer tuxedoes, Italian shoes and polished American accent of their charismatic leaders.

They are quick to ask " where is it in the new testament?"
Where is what?
a. Wearing of white garment to church
b. Walking bare footed in the white garment
c. Use of candlesticks
d. Use of frankincense

Apparently, they haven't come across it in their new Testament or they saw it but were so blinded by their hatred and prejudicial disposition to them.

Little do they know that the appearance of a typical white garment member on his/her white garment with a girdle and barefooted, depicts John the Revelator's description of the glorified Christ in Revelation.

Revelation: 1. 13.
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15. And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

According to verse 13 , The glorified Christ was seen in the midst of seven golden candlesticks. So why do you condemn the use of candles ? Except its used wrongly

John even saw and described his feet because the glorified Jesus had no shoes on. Rev.1:15
So why look at them strangely when they walk barefooted?

Revelation: 8. 3.

And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.

4. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God out of the angel's hand.

The above scripture affirms the use of incense by Angelic beings. Apparently, our criticism is void of knowledge.

Promiscuity which seems to be the white garment churches' trademark has been equalled if not surpassed by pentehooligans with damaging reports of their lustfulness littering the social media space.

The writer is by no means attempting to rubber stamp all the activities and doctrines of white garment and orthodox churches . Some of them still struggle with their long list of doctrinal errors and diabolic practises as much as the Pentecostals do.

The self righteousness, over bloated self esteem and judgemental spirit exhibited by the pentihooligans is the log of wood that has blinded their eyes to their own errors.

Our idiosyncratic and eccentric dispositions shouldn't set us apart , but should rather make us appreciate the multi breasted and all encompassing creator whose open handedness can't be censored by our childish bias.

Many are even unaware that The Redeemed Christian Church Of God is a product of The Cherubim and Seraphim Church.

Are you a white garment church member? worship God wholeheartedly and study the word to know God for yourself . If you realize you are being led to take a walk, only then should you. Don't be bamboozled by the glitters and glamour of Pentecostals. You can make heaven if you do God's word where you are.

May his name be praised.

Demola Akinyeye

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Romanoff(f): 7:16am On Jun 21, 2020
Sometime, the way we so called Christians divide the body of Christ cause of our sentiments to our beliefs and doctrines just amazes me.

Spirit filled Christians shouldn't be found doing this. At the end of the day, it is the same standard used for the Orthodox that will be used for the Pentecostal.

In all, we should take care of the body of Christ and not scatter it by pointing fingers and name calling.

Shalom

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Babacele: 7:18am On Jun 21, 2020
Preach brother......if I may ask, what is God's religion?
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by PenSniper: 7:22am On Jun 21, 2020
Excellent.

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 7:24am On Jun 21, 2020
Romanoff:
Sometime, the way we so called Christians divide the body of Christ cause of our sentiments to our beliefs and doctrines just amazes me.

Spirit filled Christians shouldn't be found doing this. At the end of the day, it is the same standard used for the Orthodox that will be used for the Pentecostal.

In all, we should take care of the body of Christ and not scatter it by pointing fingers and name calling.

Shalom

Not sure you read it well, what exactly is divisive about this? This is rather an eye opener for critics to drop their prejudiced disposition towards other denominations.
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 7:28am On Jun 21, 2020
Babacele:
Preach brother......if I may ask, what is God's religion?

God is not religious
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Nobody: 7:31am On Jun 21, 2020
seriously
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 7:36am On Jun 21, 2020
Sodiquinone:
seriously

Seriously
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Romanoff(f): 7:44am On Jun 21, 2020
seyi360:


Not sure you read it well, what exactly is divisive about this? This is rather an eye opener for critics to drop their prejudiced disposition towards other denominations.

You termed them as "penterascals". Isn't that derogatory to you?

If your attempt was to call for unity, it tilts more towards division.

You might want to check your post again, if you're a spirit filled child of God, you'll see the errors in many statements on your post and you'll put your message across in a less insulting manner.

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Babacele: 7:46am On Jun 21, 2020
seyi360:


God is not religious
Then ,what is it with all the religious claims we make especially when we try ,so unsuccessfully though, to appropriate God?
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 8:12am On Jun 21, 2020
Romanoff:


You termed them as "penterascals". Isn't that derogatory to you?

If your attempt was to call for unity, it tilts more towards division.

You might want to check your post again, if you're a spirit filled child of God, you'll see the errors in many statements on your post and you'll put your message across in a less insulting manner.

The truth is always bitter. The first person to use the term "Penterascals" is the great but late Arcbishop Benson Idahosa who was the first president of the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria. Neither you nor myself can claim to be more Pentecostal than him. He made giant strides in his attempt to unite the body of Christ not only in Nigeria but globally. This rascality has been with us for decades, the strange things some of us do in the name of pentecostalism is not just rascally but criminal.
Yet we walk around with a chip on our shoulders, castigating white garment and orthodox folks while some of us do worse things under designer jackets and shoes embellished with the best American accent. Kiss the truth.

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by helinues: 8:13am On Jun 21, 2020
Oya, make una tear una self apart
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 8:20am On Jun 21, 2020
helinues:
Oya, make una tear una self apart

Far from that, we are simply reasoning.
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Romanoff(f): 8:22am On Jun 21, 2020
seyi360:


The truth is always bitter. The first person to use the term "Penterascals" is the great but late Arcbishop Benson Idahosa who was the first president of the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria. Neither you nor myself can claim to be more Pentecostal than him. He made giant strides in his attempt to unite the body of Christ not only in Nigeria but globally. This rascality has been with us for decades, the strange things some of us do in the name of pentecostalism is not just rascally but criminal.
Yet we walk around with a chip on our shoulders, castigating white garment and orthodox folks while some of us do worse things under designer jackets and shoes embellished with the best American accent. Kiss the truth.

You can say your truth without insults. I am assuming you're a spirit filled child of God, the spirit of God in you should let you know that you're not uniting the church.

Read your post paragraph by paragraph, what you mostly did was insult the Pentecostals. I maintain my stand that this is a jab at the Pentecostals further dividing the body of Christ.

Since you're an advocate of the truth always being bitter, I pray you'll be truthful or honest enough to see that your post is not uniting the body of Christ.

May God find us worthy and ready at his coming in Jesus name.
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 8:22am On Jun 21, 2020
Babacele:
Then ,what is it with all the religious claims we make especially when we try ,so unsuccessfully though, to appropriate God?

What claims precisely?
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 8:29am On Jun 21, 2020
Romanoff:


You can say your truth without insults. I am assuming you're a spirit filled child of God, the spirit of God in you should let you know that you're not uniting the church.

Read your post paragraph by paragraph, what you mostly did was insult the Pentecostals. I maintain my stand that this is a jab at the Pentecostals further dividing the body of Christ.

Since you're an advocate of the truth always being bitter, I pray you'll be truthful or honest enough to see that your post is not uniting the body of Christ.

May God find us worthy and ready at his coming in Jesus name.


Pentecostals deserve the jab.

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Babacele: 1:31pm On Jun 21, 2020
seyi360:


What claims precisely?
claims by all religions to own God (the father the universe irrespective of sentiments.).
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 3:44pm On Jun 21, 2020
Babacele:
claims by all religions to own God (the father the universe irrespective of sentiments.).

Monotheism is the belief that there is one God
Polytheism is the belief that there are gods

Thus, all religions don't profess a common belief.
But I know that Christianity and Islam believe in monotheism, they however differ on the medium to reach Him.

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Babacele: 3:38am On Jun 22, 2020
seyi360:


Monotheism is the belief that there is one God
Polytheism is the belief that there are gods

Thus, all religions don't profess a common belief.
But I know that Christianity and Islam believe in monotheism, they however differ on the medium to reach Him.
long before the two, a pharaoh started the believe in God.
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 4:19am On Jun 22, 2020
Babacele:
long before the two, a pharaoh started the believe in God.

Egyptians were idol worshippers

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Kobojunkie: 4:55am On Jun 22, 2020
Babacele:
Preach brother......if I may ask, what is God's religion?
you forgot to ask what denomonation does God subscribe to
cheesy grin cheesy grin
Great question!

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Babacele: 6:32am On Jun 22, 2020
seyi360:


Egyptians were idol worshippers
No doubt but all the Jewish prophets had to visit Egypt for one succor or the other and copied so many things from there....Moses, Jesus etc
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by seyi360(m): 8:33am On Jun 22, 2020
Babacele:
No doubt but all the Jewish prophets had to visit Egypt for one succor or the other and copied so many things from there....Moses, Jesus etc

What succor, what was copied?

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Joagbaje(m): 8:49am On Jun 22, 2020
seyi360:


The truth is always bitter. The first person to use the term "Penterascals" .

Don’t rope Archbishop into this . He referee to certain characters but you labelled everyone Pentecostal Take the rebuke Of the lady

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Joagbaje(m): 8:51am On Jun 22, 2020
Romanoff:


You can say your truth without insults. Il.

You’re correct jare .

2 Timothy 2:24-26
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Joagbaje(m): 8:56am On Jun 22, 2020
seyi360:
The Arrogance of Pentecostalism

Permit me to set the ball rolling with this daring statement " pentecostals are arrogant "

The issue with white garment churches is that they dwell more in spiritual experience than the Bible secondly when they read the Bible they dwell on Old Testament mostly.

So understanding Christian doctrine becomes a challenge . To know the Christian life you need to read the New Testament especially the epistles

When you dwell mostly on spiritual experience at the expense of the word you will most probable enter spiritism and divination if care is not taken

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Babacele: 11:21am On Jun 22, 2020
seyi360:


What succor, what was copied?
For example Moses who was raised and trained in the palace , copied the Orphic history to write the book of Genesis.
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by CodeTemplar: 11:47am On Jun 22, 2020
Penterascals?
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Kobojunkie: 9:09pm On Jun 22, 2020
Joagbaje:


The issue with white garment churches is that they dwell more in spiritual experience than the Bible secondly when they read the Bible they dwell on Old Testament mostly.

So understanding Christian doctrine becomes a challenge . To know the Christian life you need to read the New Testament especially the epistles

When you dwell mostly on spiritual experience at the expense of the word you will most probable enter spiritism and divination if care is not taken
Focus ought to be on the gospels, not the epistles!
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Elizersalifu(f): 10:18pm On Jun 22, 2020
Kobojunkie:

Focus ought to be on the gospels, not the epistles!

The gospels are written to bring an unbeliever into believing that Jesus is the Christ...John 20v31.

The moment you believe in gospels and receive Christ, you begin to feed on the epistles for knowledge. 1John 5v13. John 14v15-16

However, the entire scriptures are given for reproof, correction and doctrine (teaching) in righteousness. 2Tim 3v16

Remain blessed
Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Kobojunkie: 1:04am On Jun 23, 2020
Elizersalifu:

The gospels are written to bring an unbeliever into believing that Jesus is the Christ...John 20v31.
The gospels were done for more than just that.
The gospels are the records we have of the very words out of the "word of God"/"the mouth of God" made flesh. The gospels contain the very details of the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ. The fine print on how every follower of Jesus Christ ought to live.
Elizersalifu:

The moment you believe in gospels and receive Christ, you begin to feed on the epistles for knowledge. 1John 5v13. John 14v15-16

Wrong!
Just as the israelites were told to write old covenant in their hearts, Christ's followers are also meant to write the commandments of the New Covenant on their hearts, meditate and obey them every day of their lives. These commandments are found in the gospels, not in the epistles.

Anyone who wishes to grow as a Christian and does not spend the bulk of their time reading and studying the words of Jesus Christ, is not ready at all to be a follower of Jesus Christ.

The first Christians did not have the epistles, they didn't even have the OT. All they had were the gospel of the Kingdom of God( spread by word of mouth)-details of the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ. Reading through the book of Acts, you can tell how wonderful the experience must have been for them, the first Christian that is, and how powerful was the flow of God's power in their lives and their days.What went wrong?
Christian's began paying less attention to the words of Christ -His gospel teachings - instead shifting their focus everywhere but to the Gospels teachings are they were taught by Jesus Christ Himself. Beginning with the catholic church to churches today, we see that Jesus Christ and His teachings have essentially been given a backseat, and as such the power of God seems to have all but disappeared from Christianity as well.

Jesus Christ said, "I am the way, the truth and the life..." His every word has power in it(the word out of the mouth of God), and that power can only be harvested through obedience. You can read the epistles and all the other letters... those writtings are not God's truth but simply words added by men who followed Jesus Christ. Paul's words will not infuse you with the power of God's truth; Neither will Peter, John, James, or Jude's words. The only words that when obeyed, yield God's power are the words spoken by God Himself or through His son Jesus Christ.(Remember, Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God).

Lastly, to understand the reason for the contents of each epistle, regardless of the writer, there needs to be a deep understanding of the teachings of Jesus Christ, found in the gospels.

Paul talked about righteousness/good but how can anyone reading and of Paul's letters understand what Paul is referring to without the understanding gotten from reading what Jesus taught His disciples on the very subject?
Elizersalifu:

However, the entire scriptures are given for reproof, correction and doctrine (teaching) in righteousness. 2Tim 3v16
Remain blessed
Sure, it is great to read scripture, but the power and Truth in scripture is not in the words of ordinary men(apostles included), but in the words that come directly from the mouth of God Himself. And in the New Testament, Jesus Christ is the word of God afterall.

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Re: The Arrogance Of Penterascals by Joagbaje(m): 7:15am On Jun 23, 2020
Kobojunkie:

Focus ought to be on the gospels, not the epistles!

Why not the epistles

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