komekn:


By your point of reference 2016 you have indicted yourself and made yourself open to claims that you are politically biased and partisan.

Your reference point is anchored entirely on the political regime of PMB. That in itself tells us where you are coming from.

The very thing we are contending again you have personified.

Can you please remind us the commendable acts of the military holistically that have given us the expected delivery outcome with regards to the SE over all.

Isolated incidents remain isolated with limited impact without over all convergence.

Yahoonovich:
What NAF needs.

komekn:


It doesn't matter do you think people will take comfort in certifications. And because an aircraft is certified it cannot crash with technical problems.

Was the 737 Max not certified.

That is all academic in reality we know that military certificate is very different from civilian.

But you didn't answer the question " would you feel confident about flying in a Pakistani manufactured aircraft and if given the choice would you prefer European, American and or a Japanese manufactured aircraft.

Be real.

As of this writing, less than a dozen of the aircraft were noted as air worthy due to structural issues involving the wings, a setback that plagued the series and forced its untimely retirement.

ugo4u:
We lost two officers today 2ndLts (This evening) barely 5 months after posting. May their soul RIP.
That soldier that was Insulting Buratai has being sent to 44ref hospital Kaduna them say the guy dey ment.

SamuelAnyawu:

Lost them how?

ugo4u:

IED

Jimi24:


That is a terrible chopper. It's record of service is poorer than MI35M which Nigeria already has.
Stop judging the usefulness of military hardware from the meanness of their looks.

komekn:


You should know l can easily substantiate my position, using appropriate metrics as well as the USAF AFTOC.

You could easily do a degree on this subject some reports on costing l have are 200 pages long. There are a number of different metrics used.

But l have made my point clear, which us simply that USAF costs and NAF costs will be dramatic different.

l am sorry, l don't see it as important to score points of, I know more than you or you know more than me.

UltimateDreamer:
somewhere in Katsina

cutievik:


The Nigeria army should just stop parking APC's on the roads with the hope they would deter criminal minds, it has been the same story since the MEND crisis in the Niger Delta, please take the war to them, that sitting duck approach has never helped... Use the APC's as a tip of the spear to launch attacks, not wasting them as we saw in the Mungono attacks recently..

ugo4u:
Nothing one won't see in this country, I watched that Army documentary on nta and its like it was aired to launder more of the COAS image than that of the army. They even used a picture of a Chilean special forces member descending from chute that went viral when one roforofo blog said it was the COAS . The whole thing to me is like a politician doing PR during elections campaign for a second term. abi is someone indirectly canvassing for tenure elongation?
E. b. things

ugo4u:
Nothing one won't see in this country, I watched that Army documentary on nta and its like it was aired to launder more of the COAS image than that of the army. They even used a picture of a Chilean special forces member descending from chute that went viral when one roforofo blog said it was the COAS . The whole thing to me is like a politician doing PR during elections campaign for a second term. abi is someone indirectly canvassing for tenure elongation?
E. b. things

ugo4u:
Nothing one won't see in this country, I watched that Army documentary on nta and its like it was aired to launder more of the COAS image than that of the army. They even used a picture of a Chilean special forces member descending from chute that went viral when one roforofo blog said it was the COAS . The whole thing to me is like a politician doing PR during elections campaign for a second term. abi is someone indirectly canvassing for tenure elongation?
E. b. things

ugo4u:
Nothing one won't see in this country, I watched that Army documentary on nta and its like it was aired to launder more of the COAS image than that of the army. They even used a picture of a Chilean special forces member descending from chute that went viral when one roforofo blog said it was the COAS . The whole thing to me is like a politician doing PR during elections campaign for a second term. abi is someone indirectly canvassing for tenure elongation?
E. b. things

E b things.
I remember when that picture first came out everyone went berserk on that guy.
Well it turns out that Buratai loved the picture

demolition:

E b things.
I remember when that picture first came out everyone went berserk on that guy.
Well it turns out that Buratai loved the picture

Jimi24:


That is a terrible chopper. It's record of service is poorer than MI35M which Nigeria already has.
Stop judging the usefulness of military hardware from the meanness of their looks.

Xbee007:
This is why we advocate for Armoured Personnel Carriers.

FieldMarshall06:




There is a reason they are parked there.... the police generals have brains too...

kikuyu1:


Yes! Heres why-ofc on paper the oversight and certification of each process is basically a bureaucratic affair at the plane makers in Oyinboland. They all know each other. Both parties respect each others abilities. As such errors occur: like the BAE Strikemaster, a ground attack we used to operate. The wing root would crack due to fatigue!?


[url]https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=877/url]

With us that WOULD NEVER HAPPEN . I CAN GUARANTEE YOU EVERY PROCESS AT ANY BLACK PLANE MAKER WOULD BE CHECKED, RECHECKED AND POSSIBLY TRIPLE CHECKED. The techs papers would all be scanned twice,uni transcripts examined, even their respective schools contacted!?
And it would be a good thing,an excellent thing actually as the quality of the final product would be unimpeachable.

komekn:


This word " organisational culture " has a way of pervading everything that you do in an organisation. It takes many decades of the pursuit of excellence for it to become established and the general benchmark.

That organisational culture has a way of when consider bother degree of high tech manufactureing country is involved in to become the national psychi = mentality.

That's why manufacturering in the Germany is very different from manufacturing in the UK. One is seeking world dominance by excellence in production and the other is essentially asleep in mediocrity.

What l am saying that level of competence cannot be attained by short cuts. Pakistan will never make a quality competitive product like those countries who have had a century or more of doing it.

I rest my case.

You can travel in a Pakistani manufactured aircraft but before you enter you better fast and pray.

ugo4u:
Nothing one won't see in this country, I watched that Army documentary on nta and its like it was aired to launder more of the COAS image than that of the army. They even used a picture of a Chilean special forces member descending from chute that went viral when one roforofo blog said it was the COAS . The whole thing to me is like a politician doing PR during elections campaign for a second term. abi is someone indirectly canvassing for tenure elongation?
E. b. things

kikuyu1:


For the reasons stated in the post let's agree to disagree!

ugo4u:
I keep saying it the govt is not serious in funding the military, if worse comes to worst we can do trade by barter, with a top Military vehicle manufacturer or nation. We give them oil, gas, gold, cocoa or any resources we can easily get in exchange for MRAPs, and other badly needed military equipment. It is trade by barter with Julius Berger; Oil for infrastructure that IBB/Abacha used in building/developing Abuja. We can also say tax Nigerians indirectly w/o people even knowing e.g for every one liter of petrol N2 will be earmarked to supplement our defence needs, percent from postal stamp, even a slice from the newly increased VAT, Customs can be mandated to remit say 5% to the defence fund out of the 30% they charge for duties etc
We just need someone that can think out of the box to raise funds for the military but the political class is only concerned in taxing and looting the country..

ugo4u:
I keep saying it the govt is not serious in funding the military,[/b] if worse comes to worst we can do trade by barter, with a top Military vehicle manufacturer or nation. We give them oil, gas, gold, cocoa or any resources we can easily get in exchange for MRAPs, and other badly needed military equipment. It is trade by barter with Julius Berger;[b] Oil for infrastructure that IBB/Abacha used in building/developing Abuja. We can also say tax Nigerians indirectly w/o people even knowing e.g for every one liter of petrol N2 will be earmarked to supplement our defence needs, percent from postal stamp, even a slice from the newly increased VAT, Customs can be mandated to remit say 5% to the defence fund out of the 30% they charge for duties etc
We just need someone that can think out of the box to raise funds for the military but the political class is only concerned in taxing and looting the country..

ugo4u:
Nothing one won't see in this country, I watched that Army documentary on nta and its like it was aired to launder more of the COAS image than that of the army. They even used a picture of a Chilean special forces member descending from chute that went viral when one roforofo blog said it was the COAS . The whole thing to me is like a politician doing PR during elections campaign for a second term. abi is someone indirectly canvassing for tenure elongation?
E. b. things