IDeyFlogAllah:
God doesn't have to interfere in every single petty matter in a man's life. Unlike a certain fake religion where the "god" teaches his slaves how to wipe their anus after defecation, the God of Christianity only intervenes in a man's life when important issues are at stake

Speaking of which, what is the purpose of muslim men having sex with the bodies of dead women? Don't you guys find it disgusting?

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Xmuslim:


I did not see the relationship between what you said and the hadith. No one is having sex with the dead lady in the hadith. Let's not be carried away by the hatred of a religion. Let's always support our claims with appropriate evidence

IDeyFlogAllah:
God doesn't have to interfere in every single petty matter in a man's life. Unlike a certain fake religion where the "god" teaches his slaves how to wipe their anus after defecation, the God of Christianity only intervenes in a man's life when important issues are at stake

IDeyFlogAllah:
Speaking of which, what is the purpose of muslim men having sex with the bodies of dead women? Don't you guys find it disgusting?

AntiChristian:
Someone who slept with his wife is "Junub" and not fit to Perform Salah till he takes a bath. In he burial of every Muslim, people get down in the grave to put the dead appropriately in the grave.

Narrated Anas bin Malik:
We were (in the funeral procession) of one of the daughters of the Prophet (ﷺ) and he was sitting by the side of the grave. I saw his eyes shedding tears. He said, "Is there anyone among you who did not have sexual relations with his wife last night?" Abu Talha replied in the affirmative. And so the Prophet told him to get down in the grave. And so he got down in her grave.
-Sahih Bukhari 2:23:374

AntiChristian:


Why are some Christians so skillful in telling lies like this? In the old testament your God was excessively involved in "petty matters" till he changed his mind in the new testament. There are many "petty matters" your Yahweh was involved in and many weighty matters he neglected. Wetin concern Yahweh with menstruating woman?

"And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even." Leviticus 15:19-21



Someone who slept with his wife is "Junub" and not fit to Perform Salah till he takes a bath. In he burial of every Muslim, people get down in the grave to put the dead appropriately in the grave. Where is the mention of sex here?

Many Followers of Christ here are liars!

IDeyFlogAllah:
God's only concern with the uncleanness caused by the discharge of bodily fluids only relates to praying in the synagogue/temple. Outside of that, God wasn't really bothered about it.

But you are yet to answer the simple question I asked.

Why is it permissible for muslim men to have sex with dead women?

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advocatejare:

Liar, the defender of falsehood. Is sleeping with your wife the only thing that makes a man junub? Wet dreams that Muhammad was known for also makes one junub, did Muhammad ask the man if he had wet dreams the previous night?
Why was he only concern about the man's sexual intercourse with his wife the previous night?
If Muhammad was concerned about the man's purity, did he ask him if he performed ghusl janabat after having intercourse with his wife? No.
So you're a liar. Islam and Muhammad supports necrophilia and it's still being practiced in many countries today.

AntiChristian:


I don't think you can ever understand. You were ignorant of the Islam you left. Even the Christianity you carry you are terribly ignorant!
Na only to peddle liar and brag with it!

If Israel were to practice necrophilia today then it must be Jesus that taught them right? Bunch of liars for Christ!

AntiChristian:


You are a Christian liar! Wetin concern you Lord with Menstruation and anyone who stays with a menstruating woman?

You didn't quote Qur'an verse or Hadith. What you are quoting is unknown. And the last relevant hadith never used the word "sex"!

IDeyFlogAllah:
Hahaha No need to cry over the truth. Your fellow headslammers are already embracing the reality of sex after death.
Maybe by the time the trend spreads to other headslammer countries your eyes will stop opening and your preeq will start growing

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advocatejare:
We saw how Muhammad endorsed it while he was alive and Arabs knew muhammad better that you wannabes. The best of black Muslim when Muhammad was alive was Bilal and Muhammad kept him as a slave and never freed him, same way Arabs see you today as slaves

AntiChristian:


Why not quote Nigeria or Saudi Arabia?
Blatant liar!

IDeyFlogAllah:
Bro, I feel your painment. But living in denial is not the solution. Just prepare to embrace the reality because it is coming to Nigeria eventually. No need to live in sifia pains

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AntiChristian:


And "Jesus wept" is the shortest verse of the Bible o!

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AntiChristian:



Does "get down" means "sex" in this context?

OK, I will bring some get down from the Bible now and put "sex" in to it.
Shebi you are bereft of sense ni?

2 Kings 1:15
The angel of the Lord said to Elijah, “Go down (sex) with him; do not be afraid of him.

Deuteronomy 9:12
Then the Lord said to me, ‘Arise, go down (sex) from here quickly, for your people whom you brought out of Egypt have acted corruptly.

Luke 19:5
When Jesus came to the place, He looked up and said to him, “Zaccheus, hurry and come down (sex), for today I must stay at your house.”

Luke 19:6
And he hurried and came down (sex) and received Him gladly.

You see say you no get sense at all?

AntiChristian:



Your Bible God discriminates against the free born and the slave born in the story of Isaac and Ishmael!

Many verses exist that goes against racism and tribalism! And Islam makes it a good deed to free slaves!

advocatejare:
That's the same thing the Quran says. Why do you think the Quran says that Israel is preferred against all the worlds?


يٰبَنِىٓ إِسْرٰٓءِيلَ اذْكُرُوا نِعْمَتِىَ الَّتِىٓ أَنْعَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأَنِّى فَضَّلْتُكُمْ عَلَى الْعٰلَمِينَ
"O Children of Israel, remember My favor that I have bestowed upon you and that I preferred you over the worlds."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 47)

You mean non black slaves right? The most prominent black slave was not freed by Muhammad.

Mention one black slave that Muhammad freed

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AntiChristian:


Favour does not mean discrimination! Why don't you mention how your Jehovah discriminated against Isaac and Ishmael?
Stop hiding it?

Islam doesn't separate slaves in to black or white slaves. Slaves are slaves.

Abdullah ibn Umar reported: When the Muslims came to Medina, they gathered and sought to know the time of prayer, but no one announced it to them. They discussed the matter one day, and some of them said, “Use something like the bell of the Christians,” and some of them said, “Use a horn like that of the Jews.” Umar said, “Why not send a man to call people to prayer?” The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “O Bilal, stand and announce the prayer.”
Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 579, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 377

advocatejare:


I wasn't referring to favour. I was referring to the discrimination Allah has by saying that Israel is preferred above all the worlds. Going by your logic, why should Allah prefer children of Israel against others if he created everybody. Is it because Israel are the descendant of the legitimate child and not the descendant of the slave?

"O Children of Israel, remember My favor that I have bestowed upon you and that I preferred you over the worlds."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 47)

The word is faḍḍaltukum (فَضَّلْتُكُمْ ) which means prefer you, from the root word
faḍḍala (فَضَّلَ ) which means "to give preference to"

advocatejare:

Liar. If that was the case, muhammad wouldn't have exchanged two black slaves with one non black slave. By doing that Muhammad the best interpreter of the Quran demonstrated that blacks and non blacks are not equal in worth and values.

It was narrated that jabir said:
"A slave came and pledged to the Prophet to emigrate, and the Prophet did not realize that he was a slave. Then his master came looking for him. The Prophet said: 'Sell him to me,' and he bought him for two black slaves. Then he did not accept the pledge from anyone until he asked: 'Is he a slave?"'
-Sunan an-Nasa'i 4184

Just look at your self and see how Islam has destroyed your self-esteem.

I asked you to show me just one black slave that Muhammad freed, but rather than show me, you couldn't because there was none but you're now showing me how Muhammad asked a black slave called Bilal to take over a job meant to be done by either a bell or a horn because that was how low Muhammad saw you blacks

AntiChristian:


Comparing the Biblical version of the above:
Deuteronomy 14:2, "For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth."

Question 1
Was YHWH in the business of discrimination too? See hypocrisy!

The next poser is for you to explain why Jehovah choose Isaac the second born when He gave Abraham two sons; one from Sarah and the other from Hagar (a slave). Is it not because Hagar was a slave that your Lord condemn Ishmael because he was born by a slave?

I will mention again that a slave is a slave and there's neither black slave nor white slave in Islam. A believing slave is worth more than a non-believing slave. Do you even know the meaning of a pledge? And why did the Prophet started asking "is he a slave" after that incident?

The Hadith you gave shows the Prophet is just with others as regards their property! The slave believed in him and he exchanged him with other slaves.

Mua’wiyah ibn al-Hakam reported: I said, “O Messenger of Allah, I have a servant-girl whom I slapped.” That upset the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him. I said to him, “Shall I emancipate her?” The Prophet said, “Bring her to me.” Then, she was brought and the Prophet said, “Where is Allah?” She said, “In heaven.” The Prophet said, “Who am I?” She said, “You are the Messenger of Allah.” The Prophet said, “Free her, for she is a believer.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 537
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim

In Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ” which is Paul instructing slaves to obey their master.

Narrated/Authority of Abu Musa al-Ashari
The Prophet (SAW) said, "He who has a slave-girl and teaches her good manners and improves her education and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward; and any slave who observes Allah's right and his master's right will get a double reward."
Hadith No: 733 Bukhari

Question 3
Now mention one verse where Jesus or Paul encouraged freeing of slaves.

Actually, the founder of racism is Iblees (Satan) who objected to Allah's Order when ordered him to prostate to Adam. He claimed: {[Satan] said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay."} [Quran 7:12]

advocatejare:
Antichristian did you know that Muhammad was into slave trading?

"Narrated Jabir:
The Prophet (ﷺ) came to know that one of his companions had given the promise of freeing his slave after his death, but as he had no other property than that slave, the Prophet (ﷺ) sold that slave for 800 dirhams and sent the price to him."
-Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1047

advocatejare:


Your answer is what Allah tells you as the reason why he has preference for the children of Israel who are descendants of Isaac and why he doesn't have preference for the descendants of Ishmael


يٰبَنِىٓ إِسْرٰٓءِيلَ اذْكُرُوا نِعْمَتِىَ الَّتِىٓ أَنْعَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَأَنِّى فَضَّلْتُكُمْ عَلَى الْعٰلَمِينَ
"O Children of Israel, remember My favor that I have bestowed upon you and that I preferred you over the worlds."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 47)


And that was why muhammad kept Bilal as a slave till his death and he never freed any black slave

And the exchange was 2 black slaves for one non-black slave


Is this girl a black slave? No

Why did Muhammad free her? Because she rubbed Muhammad's ego by calling him a prophet, so Muhammad wouldn't have been just if the lady had told him the truth that he was a false prophet.


Paul didn't claim he was a prophet like Muhammad did.

Look at what Muhammad said about slaves

"Narrated Abu Burda's father:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said "Three persons will have a double reward:
1. A Person from the people of the scriptures who believed in his prophet (Jesus or Moses) and then believed in the Prophet (ﷺ) Muhammad (i .e. has embraced Islam).
2. A slave who discharges his duties to Allah and his master.
3. A master of a woman-slave who teaches her good manners and educates her in the best possible way (the religion) and manumits her and then marries her."
-Sahih Bukhari Vol. 1, Book 3, Hadith 97


Muhammad should have lived by example by freeing Bilal and his other black slaves


Jesus never enslaved anyone like Muhammad did. Jesus never sold any human as slave like Muhammad the slave master did.


The same Allah that says you should not bow down to anybody except him is the one giving iblees a contrary order by asking iblees to bow down to Adam.

Obviously Iblees knew that your Allah was confused that's why he didn't go against his earlier order.

AntiChristian:



Alhamdulillah, your bothers liking your post will have seen your hypocrisy and treachery exposed. Bye!

AntiChristian:


This hadith is not found in the reference you gave!

advocatejare:


Sahih al-Bukhari 7186
In-book reference : Book 93, Hadith 48
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 9, Book 89, Hadith 296

AntiChristian:


You quoted Tirimidhi before, now it's Bukhari

advocatejare:

What matters most is that, you've seen for yourself that your false Prophet was into slave trading, he sold humans like commodities

AntiChristian:


But your lies doesn't matter? When will you repent from lying?

advocatejare:

Lie? You lack understanding of English. I made a mistake which I corrected by giving you the correct reference and you're talking rubbish.

Muhammad was a slave trader