This is an Athletico fan view.

I am neither a Ronaldo or Messi fan. As an Atletico Madrid supporter, I am not afforded the luxury to support either one of these stars.

Both of these competitors are great players - this is due to the fact that they are consistently putting in performances that no other player is able to match. There are other players that stand out also - Hazard, Salah, Mbappe - but they have not yet reached the consistency or longevity that Messi and Ronaldo have.

Let’s start with the older of the two:

Ronaldo is a great off the ball player that moves in the right position at the right time and is a phenomenal finisher; this is not debatable. A large majority of his goals are one touch finishes: headers, volleys, tap-ins, penalties, and lucky deflection goals. He is, without a doubt, the best at this part of the game. He also does get a few assists here and there, although lots of them seem accidental. The problem is that if you cut off his supply, Ronaldo becomes non-existent. It forces him to drop deeper, pick up the ball and strike from distance. Indeed, CR7 has a good long shot, but the amount of goals Ronaldo has scored from long range positions in the past few seasons is a quite minuscule amount. The Uruguay-Portugal game was a good example of a team cutting off his supply. Uruguay defense and midfield did a good job of controlling the tight spaces and not letting the ball reach Ronaldo. The few times Ronaldo got on the ball, he was facing a wall of defenders in front of him, with the net 20 yards away. At Real Madrid, this tactic did not work quite as well because Real had other players quite capable of bagging goals, especially if Ronaldo was occupying the opposing defense with movement in the box. On a physical level, CR7 is tall, fast and powerful so any ball in the box is a threat - ask Juventus or Atletico. The challenge comes stopping the delivery.

Messi is a completely different beast. As an Atletico supporter, I know that if we are able to lock down Modric, Kroos and not let Benzema receive the ball, Ronaldo is not much a threat, although the rest of the team may very well be. With Messi, this is not possible because Messi plays in tight spaces very well and is also willing to drop back to Busquets’ area, pick up the ball and advance it forwards if the midfield is being blocked from getting the ball to him. Positioning-wise, he holds a very free-flowing position: RW, CF, CAM all at the same time…so man marking would just pull the entire team out of place, meaning teams must resort to zonal marking. Messi excels at bypassing zonal marking defenses. His dribbling and pace allow him to cut through the lines and create plays, curl shots in the left corner or use insane vision to setup Jordi Alba running down the left flank. The possibilities when Messi has the ball are endless and this makes him dangerous. The issue with stopping Messi is that he is both a creator and a goal-scorer, while Ronaldo is typically just a goal-scorer.

Overall it’s difficult to pick between the two, but as a neutral, I would say that Messi is more dangerous to face.

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It's common sense

TheGodlessGod:
It's common sense

80% (my Stat, �) of Manchester Utd fan will disagree.

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80% (my Stat, �) of Manchester Utd fan will disagree.

he's their former player of course they will be bias

ita common sense and they are less sentimental..
they know the game more better than the viewing fans..
there can be another goal machine like cr7 bt am not sure if there can be another magician like messi..
watching Lionel messi playing football, doing his mazzy runs and scoring incredible goals is just like watching an entertainer and the most interesting thing is that he does those things so easily asif he is having fun in a training pitch with his friends..

TheGodlessGod:
he's their former player of course they will be bias

The bias is nauseating.

paulolee:
ita common sense and they are less sentimental..
they know the game more better than the viewing fans..
there can be another goal machine like cr7 bt am not sure if there can be another magician like messi..
watching Lionel messi playing football, doing his mazzy runs and scoring incredible goals is just like watching an entertainer and the most interesting thing is that he does those things so easily asif he is having fun in a training pitch with his friends..

I agree with everything you stated.

I just feel its this generation of football fans that makes football all about goals. Yes goals wins game but there's a lot of field activities that makes this goal possible. That's where Messi comes in. United fans aside, the fact that some people genuinely believe Ronaldo is better than Messi is disgusting.

Coach of the year,, I hail thee... if it was so easy to stop ronaldo by cutting off supplies, tell me why the likes of conte, guardiola, simone havent adopted this tactics in recent times... Like you rightly said ronaldo's off the ball movement is quite good that if defenders attempt to cut off his supplies by preventing his team mates from giving him the ball in position X, he will simply move to position Y to receive that ball...

and mind you even with messi, if you can stop s. busquets and jordi alba from influencing the game, then the threat posed by messi is reduced significantly cuz he would have to drop deeper in other to influence play himself, and messi doesnt really run from the half way line to scores goals these days... this is a common tactic that have been used by liverpool, napoli, etc in recent seasons

Ronaldo is not much of a creater, yet he has over 200 career assist.. messi is more dangerous to face, yet cr7 never misses an opportunity to score a hat trick against your team... like I said, coach of the year, I hail thee

I want to believe that the post wasn't attacking Ronaldo's play or what he's capable of on the field of play. The article simply shed a light on two current football Goats play - the difference and their respective contributions to a team.

Having stated that, Messi has a better game play and does more in a football game than Ronaldo, a reason why lot of pundits pick Messi over Ronaldo.

The article isn't criticising Ronaldo. Personally, I would love Ronaldo to play for my club because his values can't be overlooked. Banters aside.

Hmmm

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22 goals, 20 assists so far on a very bad season nko ooo?

OfficialJayy:
Coach of the year,, I hail thee... if it was so easy to stop ronaldo by cutting off supplies, tell me why the likes of conte, guardiola, simone havent adopted this tactics in recent times... Like you rightly said ronaldo's off the ball movement is quite good that if defenders attempt to cut off his supplies by preventing his team mates from giving him the ball in position X, he will simply move to position Y to receive that ball...

and mind you even with messi, if you can stop s. busquets and jordi alba from influencing the game, then the threat posed by messi is reduced significantly cuz he would have to drop deeper in other to influence play himself, and messi doesnt really run from the half way line to scores goals these days... this is a common tactic that have been used by liverpool, napoli, etc in recent seasons

Ronaldo is not much of a creater, yet he has over 200 career assist.. messi is more dangerous to face, yet cr7 never misses an opportunity to score a hat trick against your team... like I said, coach of the year, I hail thee

Exactly

This post is right , finally someone who sees that Ronaldo is better than Messi.

It's just the facts.

Messi has always been a phenomenal player I'll admit, but he will never be as good as Ronaldo.

The reason being that Ronaldo is taller and more physical, a luxury that Messi will never be able to afford, no matter how much he trains (Ronaldo trains longer than him btw).

That is why I think that Ronaldo is the best player of all time. After all, 450 goals in 438 matches is no easy feat.

And @OP if Ronaldo isn't a good creator, explain why he has the second most assists of all time (you can Google it if you don't believe me).

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Fastestmanalive:


Exactly

This post is right , finally someone who sees that Ronaldo is better than Messi.

It's just the facts.

Messi has always been a phenomenal player I'll admit but he will never be as good as Ronaldo.

The reason being that Ronaldo is taller and more physical, a luxury that Messi will never be able to afford, no matter how much he trains (Ronaldo trains longer than him btw).

That is why I think that Ronaldo is the best player of all time. After all, 450 goals in 438 matches is no easy feat.

@OP if Ronaldo isn't a good creator then why does he have the Second most assists of all time. Sorry OP but your post is biased against Ronaldo.


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Bro you need to check Messi's Stats, lol.

Statistically, Messi beats Ronaldo hands down. This is a veritable fact.

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Bro you need to check Messi's Stats, lol.

Statistically, Messi beats Ronaldo hands down. This is a veritable fact.

Ronaldo/ Messi comparison


Ronaldo= Most goals
Second most assists

Messi= second most goals
most assists

Goals win games so Ronaldo wins.

It's not a coincidence that he won real Madrid 4 champions League titles.

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Fastestmanalive:

Ronaldo/ Messi comparison


Ronaldo= Most goals
Second most assists

Messi= second most goals
most assists

Goals win games so Ronaldo wins.

It's not a coincidence that he won real Madrid 4 champions League titles.

also take the number of games played into consideration.

Ronaldo had more than 140 apps than Messi and the goal difference between them I just 27-28 goals.


Player A scored 10 goals in 15 matches.

Player B scored 11 goals in 19 matches.

who is a better scorer ?

LukasPodolski:

also take the number of games played into consideration.

Ronaldo had more than 140 apps than Messi and the goal difference between them I just 27-28 goals.


Player A scored 10 goals in 15 matches.

Player B scored 11 goals in 19 matches.

who is a better scorer ?

Your analysis only takes place in 15 vs 19 matches

What I'm saying is that he scored 450 goals in his 438 total matches for real Madrid.

That's a goal ratio of 1.18 goals per match

That is the highest in history.

As for total goals scored

So yeah Ronaldo is the best.

Messi is undoubtedly good but he's not the best

As for the total goals scored

Age has nothing to do with it

Ronaldo is still the highest

If Messi were the best he would have closed the gap.

Fastestmanalive:



Your analysis only takes place in 15 vs 19 matches

What I'm saying is that he scored 450 goals in his 438 total matches for real Madrid.

That's a goal ratio of 1.18 goals per match

That is the highest in history.

As for total goals scored

So yeah Ronaldo is the best.

Messi is undoubtedly good but he's not the best

As for the total goals scored

Age has nothing to do with it

Ronaldo is still the highest

If Messi were the best he would have closed the gap.

The fact that you expect Messi to close up the gap despite playing less than 150 games means you agree with the rest of us that Messi is more prolific than Ronaldo.

LukasPodolski:

also take the number of games played into consideration.

Ronaldo had more than 140 apps than Messi and the goal difference between them I just 27-28 goals.


Player A scored 10 goals in 15 matches.

Player B scored 11 goals in 19 matches.

who is a better scorer ?

The only reason why Messi has a better goals per game ratio is because cr7 played in england, compare their ratio in spain, lets see if messi comes close

Infact ehnn, tell Messi to come to england, lets see if he can score 50 goals in 50 apps

If you truly want to be fair, compare them under situations that are common to both e. g

Compare their goals per game ratio for their countries
Messi has 70 goals in 164apps while ronaldo has 109goals in 168apps

Compare their goals per game ratio in spain
Ronaldo has 311 goals in 292 apps in la liga while Messi has 441 in 489 apps..

Like I said earlier, Messi only has a better goals per game ratio because cr7 played in epl, I dont think there's any player in epl to have scored more goals than amount of games played due to the difficult and demanding nature of the league.. besides cr7 only started scoring goals for fun at around the time he won his first ballon d'or which was about 6 yrs after his debut..

Bomboiy:




The fact that you expect Messi to close up the gap despite playing less than 150 games means you agree with the rest of us that Messi is more prolific than Ronaldo.

cr7 came to la liga 5years after Messi started playing there, about 2years after he left, Messi was still trying to break cr7 record for the most number of hat tricks scored in la liga.. and yet you say Messi is more prolific.. Wow

No time to answer any Pessi fan here

All we know is that Ronaldo would win the ballondor this year

It simple, the pundits' judgements are not based on sentiments or preference....only Nigerians judge by preference.....
Listen to commentators, they all always label Messi the best player in the world and the greatest of all time....
But when referring to Ronaldo, they never say he is the best player in the world or the greatest.... they always say 'he is one of the best players in the world, or he is up there among the greats'.... commentators give the best verdicts....they see the game more than most of us do

Fastestmanalive:

Ronaldo/ Messi comparison


Ronaldo= Most goals
Second most assists

Messi= second most goals
most assists

Goals win games so Ronaldo wins.

It's not a coincidence that he won real Madrid 4 champions League titles.

Small pikin talk

OfficialJayy:


The only reason why Messi has a better goals per game ratio is because cr7 played in england, compare their ratio in spain, lets see if messi comes close

Infact ehnn, tell Messi to come to england, lets see if he can score 50 goals in 50 apps

If you truly want to be fair, compare them under situations that are common to both e. g

Compare their goals per game ratio for their countries
Messi has 70 goals in 164apps while ronaldo has 109goals in 168apps

Compare their goals per game ratio in spain
Ronaldo has 311 goals in 292 apps in la liga while Messi has 441 in 489 apps..

Like I said earlier, Messi only has a better goals per game ratio because cr7 played in epl, I dont think there's any player in epl to have scored more goals than amount of games played due to the difficult and demanding nature of the league.. besides cr7 only started scoring goals for fun at around the time he won his first ballon d'or which was about 6 yrs after his debut..

Messi has scored more hattricks against EPL sides than Ronaldo that played in EPL. He has scored against every top EPL team that he has faced in the UCL but you penaldo fanboys think he won't do that against smaller sides? LMAO.



You think it is unfair to compare their club goal ratio but you us to accept that of their countries,my grandma will score hattricks and braces against team like Andorra,Kosovo,Lativa,Faroe island. Scoring against South American teams is more difficult,that is why Ronaldo couldn't do anything when he faced Chile and Uruguay.

By the way Ronaldo has 99 goals for Portugal, you don't have to inflate his stats just to make him look good. And also Messi has 70 goals from 138 appearances,not like I was expecting better from a penaldo fanboy lol.

OfficialJayy:


cr7 came to la liga 5years after Messi started playing there, about 2years after he left, Messi was still trying to break cr7 record for the most number of hat tricks scored in la liga.. and yet you say Messi is more prolific.. Wow

Ronaldo scored just one hattrick in the EPL against Newcastle yet Messi that has never played in England has more hattricks than Ronaldo and yet you think Ronaldo is more prolific. Wow

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OfficialJayy:


The only reason why Messi has a better goals per game ratio is because cr7 played in england, compare their ratio in spain, lets see if messi comes close

Infact ehnn, tell Messi to come to england, lets see if he can score 50 goals in 50 apps

If you truly want to be fair, compare them under situations that are common to both e. g

Compare their goals per game ratio for their countries
Messi has 70 goals in 164apps while ronaldo has 109goals in 168apps

Compare their goals per game ratio in spain
Ronaldo has 311 goals in 292 apps in la liga while Messi has 441 in 489 apps..

Like I said earlier, Messi only has a better goals per game ratio because cr7 played in epl, I dont think there's any player in epl to have scored more goals than amount of games played due to the difficult and demanding nature of the league.. besides cr7 only started scoring goals for fun at around the time he won his first ballon d'or which was about 6 yrs after his debut..

Oga, stop giving us false stats....
Messi 70 goals in 138 caps
Ron, 99 goals in 164 caps
I don't want to go into details on how easier it is to score more goals in Euro than in Conmebol due to the more amount of teams in Euro(low Fifa Rankin teams).....


"If you truly want to be fair, compare them under situations that are common to both e. g"

"Compare their goals per game ratio in spain
Ronaldo has 311 goals in 292 apps in la liga while Messi has 441 in 489 apps.."


U see urself??..See how u are contradicting Urself...u are comparing Ronaldo's 9yrs in madrid right from 2009 to Messi's 15yrs in barca starting from 2005...how is this fair??..
Y not compare both of them right from when Ronaldo came to laliga till when he left....2009-2018...
Let me help u
2009-2018 in Laliga, Ronaldo 311 goals in 292 apps
................................., Messi. 329 goals in 309 apps....

Now do the maths and see who had the better ratio...

U added Messi's early career when he was still finding his foot and are using it to compare Ronaldo's peak 2009-2018....na wa o...

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OfficialJayy:


cr7 came to la liga 5years after Messi started playing there, about 2years after he left, Messi was still trying to break cr7 record for the most number of hat tricks scored in la liga.. and yet you say Messi is more prolific.. Wow

Yes Messi is more prolific....if u need explanation, kindly ask for it

obonujoker:
No time to answer any Pessi fan here

All we know is that Ronaldo would win the ballondor this year

Please if he doesn't win it, don't blame juve or sarri o...as u guys always do

Fastestmanalive:



Your analysis only takes place in 15 vs 19 matches

What I'm saying is that he scored 450 goals in his 438 total matches for real Madrid.

That's a goal ratio of 1.18 goals per match

That is the highest in history.

As for total goals scored

So yeah Ronaldo is the best.

Messi is undoubtedly good but he's not the best

As for the total goals scored

Age has nothing to do with it

Ronaldo is still the highest

If Messi were the best he would have closed the gap.

Na wa o, Ronaldo fans and false stats...1.18 goal ratio of Ronaldo isn't the highest in history.... don't come and be giving us lamba on Nairaland....Have u heard of Josef Bican?

Fastestmanalive:


Exactly

This post is right , finally someone who sees that Ronaldo is better than Messi.

It's just the facts.

Messi has always been a phenomenal player I'll admit, but he will never be as good as Ronaldo.

The reason being that Ronaldo is taller and more physical, a luxury that Messi will never be able to afford, no matter how much he trains (Ronaldo trains longer than him btw).

That is why I think that Ronaldo is the best player of all time. After all, 450 goals in 438 matches is no easy feat.

And @OP if Ronaldo isn't a good creator, explain why he has the second most assists of all time (you can Google it if you don't believe me).

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"Messi has always been a phenomenal player I'll admit, but he will never be as good as Ronaldo"

Listen to urself, Messi will never be as good as Ronaldo....I laugh...
Is it the Ronaldo that his teammates in Man U told him that Messi is better than him and all he could say was at least i have a better hair than him...

"The reason being that Ronaldo is taller and more physical, a luxury that Messi will never be able to afford, no matter how much he trains (Ronaldo trains longer than him btw). "

...Isn't it a Shame for Ronaldo??...he is taller and more physical, yet one small guy still overshadows him and has as much goals as he.....u think it's about height...
Ronaldo is much physical and yet he dives and falls at every slightest touch....
Do I need to explain to u how much Messi's physicality is underrated.....Man literally runs the entire field with defenders kicking him and he still manages to stay up...
FYI, if Ronaldo recieved half the tackles Messi receives, he'd av retired....take it or leave it

And good creators don't always equal good assisters....they are different.... Ronaldo isn't half the creator or playmaker KDB, Iniesta or Eriksen are yet he has more assists than three of them combined....so, the fact that Ronaldo has those assists doesn't make him a creator or playmaker...He can't swap roles with Pjanic..unless u Want doom for Juve....
My point is Forwards tend to have the most assists

Because they are mad