for my side, march was paid in full , april, may, june were half + 4k data sub allowance for the virtual classes


GOD

The submission here is not true in all cases. There is a known school in the high brow of Lagos that sued a parent for outstanding school fees. Schools have one story or the other to tell about the difficulty in collecting school fees. I agree with 50% stat. I was a teacher and now a proprietor. I have tasted both side and do have a balanced view of both world.

It is easy to criticize when experience is lacking. Why not start your own school and seek to be better. This does not mean there are no private school that play fast one on their teachers.

My teachers know when money comes in and when the ground is dry. We try to be open as far as humanly possible.

fortunately i work in a private school and all staff were paid till April. May till date only staff involve in virtual class are paid full salaries. other staff are getting half of their pay. please dont be a cheap private school teacher. get certification (international) and get a good private school and you wont have to pass through stress like this. honestly there is money working in a private school if you have the right qualifications.

Example of international qualification you said. Give names. Thanks

uromii:
Every honest proprietor is supposed to have paid it staff their February, March and April salary in full plus even necessary bonus because they collect their fees per term and this money is paid in whole and they normally demand this money (fee drive) from second week of resumption and their dead line for payments is always that first month of resumption and the lockdown started towords ending of March , almost all school's does this.

In other words %96 percent of schools in Nigeria have already collected their pupils school fees before the covid-19 lock down.

To show How wicked black man can be most of the proprietors/proprietress have dubiously refused to give their staff their complete payment for April, May. Most school owners are not always honest to their workers because no regulatory bodies beams their watch light on them.

So if you are a teacher you teach in a private school and you did not receive your April and may salary from your director , just know you have been cheated.

talk is cheap..if starting and managing business is easy every tom dick and Harry would be successful in business..who said you cannot start your own private school?

abimic:

20k? That's very paltry... That stress isn't worth that salary, some get paid higher anyway, just connect and link well, I remember when I was in that line, I use to do one home tutorial that time that fetches me that 20k, and one could do up to three, I even get tips from the parents, and those parents could even help one grow in life. And now with current pandemic, with high cost of living, home tutorials shouldn't go for less than 40k.

less than 40??
It depends on what the parents earn for a living... Most parents in my city won't even pay 10k during this pandemic.. Many are using the pandemic as an excuse.

One parent is still yet to pay me for March lesson... just 10k

This is one of the reason why there is poverty in the country, people are just too selfish and self-centered. I think there should be legislation in Nigeria that if you can not pay teachers in your school above minimum wages, your school will not be registered. How can a teacher be paid N8,000 per month

donblazer10:
school business is a big cash in stuff? lol. I swear you have no idea what you're saying, trust me

Oga, forget the scam from the proprietors, I worked in 5 different private schools for 8 years before I changed my work. There is money in school business EXCEPT you are stinkingly poor before you started yours.

Beedude:

Ur case is just like APC claiming to have solutions to Nigeria problem only to find out its not an easy feat.
Since u are sure school owners are wealthy and are millionaires kind establish urs. And don't forget to come share ur experience.
NEVER BE TOO QUICK TO JUDGE OTHERS WHEN U AREN'T IN THEIR SHOES.
NA WHO WEAR SHOE KNOW WHERE HE DEY PAIN AM.
God will judge everyone accordingly.

Amen. Including the liar, liar proprietors

ocelot2006:


Correction: not all schools were writing exams. Some had about a week or 2 before exams. As a result of the lockdown in some states, most schools had to RUSH their exams so as to ensure that the children had to get home on time to their parents. So how did you expect the schools to get their fees, especially during national and global health crisis?

Again I'll say this. Teachers and staff should've gotten their full salaries for the month of March. BUT expecting schools to pay full salaries for April and May?? Haba! At that point, you should be talking of palliatives, not demanding salaries.

Teachers supposed get full salaries for the month of March and April. Money enters during test and exam. All Nigerian schools have written test before the lock down, some were writing exam, while some were preparing to write. Sir, at these periods in the school calendar, good administrator would have collected 80 - 90% of the necessary fees.

There problem is that most of the proprietors were poor before entering the business hence, they could not have a standard for their school at the beginning.

donblazer10:
school business is a big cash in stuff? lol. I swear you have no idea what you're saying, trust me

I laugh too. Do you know that poverty pushed some proprietors into the business? They don't have the basic ideas and principles of what should be in place before the start-up, No solid plans, all was for them to rent kne or two room(s), start a school and EXPECT BIG CASH.

inice:

Some teachers are wicked. Not concerned about the children just waiting for month to end. I employed one who I later noticed was just marking all good marks for children without checking if answers were wrong or right. Will pretend to be teaching when I'm coming and busy collecting parents phone numbers for lesson. This guy will almost collect his salary before month end. And some are here talking about school. Open one if it's easy and pay. They waist children's precious time and destiny gossiping from one class to another asking others how much their salary. A dedicated and sincere teacher that has the growth of the school at heart is just 4%.A lot did not come to your school because they love teaching No Way! No job so teaching is the highest recruitment job. Pay your teachers other wise you will know that they can bring down the school. Also don't employ because of the smiling faces you see during interview. Please pay your teachers cause 96% are there since there's no job and not for the love of teaching. Don't employ too many hands you cannot pay cause fight is waiting for you at your gate. Cheers

hmmmnn...you have a very good point

faceland:


When school reopen, should parent forget about previous school fees and just pay again? You didn't work you want to chop? You better start home schooling or lesson teacher.

some schools do online teaching yet such schools still don't want to pay even after the owner had received alert of the payment (lesson fee). What do you call that? Wicked or caring?

it's d same thing oooo . even with bsc , I am still paid less than 25k monthly. and I have no bn paid since March. we r really hellish.

it's d same thing oooo . even with bsc , I am still paid less than 25k monthly. and I have no bn paid since March. Its really hellish.

fujirice:

Oh!
It flows from you!
Bad upbringing

Ayhomes basking4me please I am a teacher too and I posted my pictures as evidence but was looked over. Please

Vanpascore:


Oga, forget the scam from the proprietors, I worked in 5 different private schools for 8 years before I changed my work. There is money in school business EXCEPT you are stinkingly poor before you started yours.

you worked. OWN a school and see how things are first, then reality will hit you in the face.. BTW I DON'T own a school, I just have a first hand experience of how things are

stormborn28:
some of the things you listed here is only possible during school session.. Do you run bus during COVID-19?

Don't you carry out general repairs and maintenance works, plus the execution of some capital projects, during the holiday period ahead of a new academic term/session?

Vanpascore:


Teachers supposed get full salaries for the month of March and April. Money enters during test and exam. All Nigerian schools have written test before the lock down, some were writing exam, while some were preparing to write. Sir, at these periods in the school calendar, good administrator would have collected 80 - 90% of the necessary fees.

There problem is that most of the proprietors were poor before entering the business hence, they could not have a standard for their school at the beginning.

Bros, again you don't have a clue the difficulty faced in collecting fees in private schools. BTW when I refer to private schools, I'm not just referring to small startups using rented apartments, but also large STANDARD schools situated on acres of land and with some of the best facilities built by proprietors who made it before they decided to invest in education. These are schools that equally have fee drives but at the same time must do it humanely and with empathy as it is a way of easing the financial strain on parents and retaining parents plus even attracting more.

My advice that you leave the rumours from the grapevines in staff rooms and probably stay close to your school's Bursary Department/Unit to get a somewhat clear picture of the financial state of your school. Whoever says that education is highly profitable should delve into it first then brief the house later about their respective experiences.

placeofallure:


No please!
By March ending when government ruled that all schools should be closed, some schools had finished exams, some were in the middle of exams, some were about to start. Many schools would have gotten 80-85% of fees owed them. Like the OP opined, the school owners shouldn't have trouble paying full staff salary up till April. How do you explain salaries owed from February, from January? Haha! Fear God na!

More than that, it's not so difficult as you make it seem. There are a thousand and one ways that schools devise to over shoot their charges to maximize profit. You pay PTA levies every term, you pay for sports wear, something that's not worth more than #1000, you pay #3500 for it. The same thing for uniform, for cardigan. You pay for computer lab, na everyday computer dey spoil? You pay for graduation party, you pay for inter-house sports, you pay for Cultural Day, they charge you for Excursion, you pay for afternoon lesson, you pay for school bus, you pay for Clubs and Societies, you pay for sick bay. Nothing is free in Moscow. Then, you pay tuition, that's the mother of all you think. But it's a lie. The real profit is in all those other things mentioned earlier cos you're overcharged for them. Where does the surplus go? To general maintenance you're quick to say but you and I know that's a big lie! It goes into funding the fake lifestyle of the owner(s)

How do you explain this? - A school that charges 120k per child has about 22 classes with about 22 teachers plus a few other support staff and a population of 400 children, yet can't pay a teacher at least the fee of a child. Mathematicians, please calculate the ratio of pupils to teachers. Could they have used the rest of the money on general maintenance? Some of us are more corrupt than the collabo of APC and PDP!

If you will wait till 10 to 15 years before you start making profit, then you can as well put family members in the classrooms, they wouldn't mind to receive paltry sums till profit.

It is these same schools you will spend the entire meaningful part of your life, labour for 15 years, and when you are retiring, they will present you a TV or refrigerator. Awon eni ibi ti n pon mo re baluwe!

Wow, hold it right there! PTA levies? You are aware that Management teams in schools CANNOT touch PTA levies as it is controlled by the PTA exco team of the school led by a parent who is the Exco Chairman, right? And you mentioned fees like Excursion fees. You do realise that MOST excursions, even foreign trips, are OPTIONAL, not compulsory, right? As for other fees mentioned, they depend on the term (eg Graduation & Cultural Day - 3rd Term). Equally keep in mind that everything tend to be rolled into one fee (at least for the schools I know).

So basically, this post of yours just exposed your total ignorance about the Financial workings of a school. Until you've served on the other side and have walked in the shoes of proprietors, you simply don't have a CLUE.

ocelot2006:


Don't you carry out general repairs and maintenance works, plus the execution of some capital projects, during the holiday period ahead of a new academic term/session?

you are deluding yourself... Since March has any major activities taken place in school? Except you are running those buses on your personal errands.. There is no way all what is listed there will be carried out

stormborn28:
you are deluding yourself... Since March has any major activities taken place in school? Except you are running those buses on your personal errands.. There is no way all what is listed there will be carried out

I asked a simple question: do you carry out general repairs and maintenance works during the holiday period when pupils/students are absent in preparation of a new academic term/session?

Btw claiming that the under listed will not be carried is simply laughable. PHEDC still issue bills, and even proposed a charge increase before it was shot down. Some schools still ran with skeletal staff for online classes. That means slashed salaries for participating teachers and support staff. That in turn means payment for internet access and power (diesel supply for generators).

Oh, as for the vehicles, they all packed alright....you forgot the part that they have to be prepped and maintained for the forthcoming term....or do you wait for the term to resume before you rush to carry out repairs? Same goes for power generators and facilities (classrooms, dormitories, laboratories, workshops, etc), plus tools.

And then there are capital projects from new facilities (new classroom blocks, new halls of residence plus furnishing, new recreational facilities for the students, road construction, etc).

Overall I don't think you don't know jacks@#t about what it takes to run a school. Now move along.

I swear nobody knows
Is it wen school fees is 19500 per term
U wil pay staff 50k per month
Parents stil will owe
If u try to b harsh wit fee collection
Most of dem will port to anoda school
Leaving huge debt behind

ocelot2006:


I asked a simple question: do you carry out general repairs and maintenance works during the holiday period when pupils/students are absent in preparation of a new academic term/session?

Btw claiming that the under listed will not be carried is simply laughable. PHEDC still issue bills, and even proposed a charge increase before it was shot down. Some schools still ran with skeletal staff for online classes. That means slashed salaries for participating teachers and support staff. That in turn means payment for internet access and power (diesel supply for generators).

Oh, as for the vehicles, they all packed alright....you forgot the part that they have to be prepped and maintained for the forthcoming term....or do you wait for the term to resume before you rush to carry out repairs? Same goes for power generators and facilities (classrooms, dormitories, laboratories, workshops, etc), plus tools.

And then there are capital projects from new facilities (new classroom blocks, new halls of residence plus furnishing, new recreational facilities for the students, road construction, etc).

Overall I don't think you don't know jacks@#t about what it takes to run a school. Now move along.

you just stated the reason why someone said you owners of schools are selfish.... Some even refused to pay their teachers yet they have money to carry out all those things you listed. Which is more important. Paying the teachers or putting money into machines.

stormborn28:
you just stated the reason why someone said you owners of schools are selfish.... Some even refused to pay their teachers yet they have money to carry out all those things you listed. Which is more important. Paying the teachers or putting money into machines.

Personnel are obviously the most important resource in any organization. The point I'm trying to make, same point earlier mentioned by another poster is that schools are pretty much drained at the close of the Term, and still have financial obligations to meet, including the payment. With no cash inflow via fee payments for such an extended period, no financial aid from the Federal or State govt, and a dwindling purse no thanks to those obligations, how do you expect the management of these schools to pay salaries? Hell, even oil companies and large conglomerates are laying off employees. At least the schools I know haven't done same.

As much as the plight of Teachers and support staff is understood, it is equally imperative that you look at this issue objectively from both ends. Keep in mind that this is the very first we've experienced such a pandemic (at least in our lifetime).

fortunately i work in a private school and all staff were paid till April. May till date only staff involve in virtual class are paid full salaries. other staff are getting half of their pay. please dont be a cheap private school teacher. get certification (international) and get a good private school and you wont have to pass through stress like this. honestly there is money working in a private school if you have the right qualifications.

Can you get 80k as a teacher?

ocelot2006:



Wow, hold it right there! PTA levies? You are aware that Management teams in schools CANNOT touch PTA levies as it is controlled by the PTA exco team of the school led by a parent who is the Exco Chairman, right? And you mentioned fees like Excursion fees. You do realise that MOST excursions, even foreign trips, are OPTIONAL, not compulsory, right? As for other fees mentioned, they depend on the term (eg Graduation & Cultural Day - 3rd Term). Equally keep in mind that everything tend to be rolled into one fee (at least for the schools I know).

So basically, this post of yours just exposed your total ignorance about the Financial workings of a school. Until you've served on the other side and have walked in the shoes of proprietors, you simply don't have a CLUE.

Total ignorance kwa? You're the clueless one here. Why did you highlight some and leave out the rest. Since you are a grand patron in the affairs of school administration, you should have something to say concerning everything I mentioned there. Since you know so much, explain why teachers' salary as far back as February are still owed , abi you no follow the trend?

For most schools, there's always an event if not more for every term. They make a lot through these events. 1st term - End of the year party, Carols etc. 2nd term - Inter-house sports, 3rd term - Graduation party. Some schools won't even break down the fees. They don't want you to question any particular levy. Unless you insist, they don't give you the break down.

And the mathematics I asked to be done in my comment, please grand patron, biko do the maths na, how fair is that?

I know your type, people will be under you and you won't want them to rise. Your type will kneel on somebody's neck so they wouldn't breathe. You will suffocate and eventually kill them. Just know God will visit all of you one by one. You will surely get your comeuppance!

placeofallure:


Total ignorance kwa? You're the clueless one here. Why did you highlight some and leave out the rest. Since you are a grand patron in the affairs of school administration, you should have something to say concerning everything I mentioned there. Since you know so much, explain why teachers' salary as far back as February are still owed , abi you no follow the trend?

For most schools, there's always an event if not more for every term. They make a lot through these events. 1st term - End of the year party, Carols etc. 2nd term - Inter-house sports, 3rd term - Graduation party. Some schools won't even break down the fees. They don't want you to question any particular levy. Unless you insist, they don't give you the break down.

And the mathematics I asked to be done in my comment, please grand patron, biko do the maths na, how fair is that?

I know your type, people will be under you and you won't want them to rise. Your type will kneel on somebody's neck so they wouldn't breathe. You will suffocate and eventually kill them. Just know God will visit all of you one by one. You will surely get your comeuppance!

Madam "cluefull", thanks for the "grand patron" title, even though I'm not. But let me say that the highlighted part of your post CLEAR supports my claim that you don't really know much about financing when it comes to running schools. No sane school will not give a break down of its fees from tuition, utilities, etc. I dare you to check the prospectus and websites of various schools and you'll see that your allegation is simply false.

The problem with folks like you is that you look at the money up front, probably do a mental calculation with the number of pupils/students, and immediately jump to conclusions. And that's it. Yet you have absolutely no idea how the money is spent, or if a considerable chunk of that money has already been collected in the first place. But hey whatever floats your boat. By the way, you don't know me in person, so accusing me of stifling the growth of others is simply baseless and laughable.

Anyway, I think I've wasted much time on this topic. You're entitled to your own opinions, even though they are totally flawed and uninformed. However like a previous poster I will suggest you open your own school, experience the "fun" in it, and let's see if you'll still be yapping about the "selfishness and greed" of proprietors.

I'm out.

placeofallure:



I know your type, people will be under you and you won't want them to rise. Your type will kneel on somebody's neck so they wouldn't breathe. You will suffocate and eventually kill them. Just know God will visit all of you one by one. You will surely get your comeuppance!

Deep.

.

ocelot2006:


Madam "cluefull", thanks for the "grand patron" title, even though I'm not. But let me say that the highlighted part of your post CLEAR supports my claim that you don't really know much about financing when it comes to running schools. No sane school will not give a break down of its fees from tuition, utilities, etc. I dare you to check the prospectus and websites of various schools and you'll see that your allegation is simply false.

The problem with folks like you is that you look at the money up front, probably do a mental calculation with the number of pupils/students, and immediately jump to conclusions. And that's it. Yet you have absolutely no idea how the money is spent, or if a considerable chunk of that money has already been collected in the first place. But hey whatever floats your boat. By the way, you don't know me in person, so accusing me of stifling the growth of others is simply baseless and laughable.

Anyway, I think I've wasted much time on this topic. You're entitled to your own opinions, even though they are totally flawed and uninformed. However like a previous poster I will suggest you open your own school, experience the "fun" in it, and let's see if you'll still be yapping about the "selfishness and greed" of proprietors.

I'm out.

You'd better be. ....and stay permanently out!