Upaka:


How do you like the thunder? Fried or roasted if you don't leave me alone

If I leave u alone, this people will follow u all Tru ur existence ooo


Take me or dem

kikero:


Lol, that means you know nothing about the subject.

You don't even know anything about the comment DNA alteration that you keep on throwing about.

My friend, DNA alteration is genetic, or may be caused by things like nuclear radiation and chemicals.and infections

And yes , it causes things like sickle cell anemia to cancer

And some infections like HPV that can cause cancer by altering the DNA of certain cells can be prevented by vaccines.

Now I have answered your question. Answer mine

What do you understand by vaccines altering DNA?

I am waiting

Have you seen my response ?

dantewest:


https://www.rt.com/russia/497719-russia-vaccine-orders/

We are losing faith already again ,
Because we know that APC will Blame PDP for the vaccine being delivered late and APC will blame PDP for using billions for the purchase of the vaccines

byinks:


I can see how you are cleverly obfuscating the truth
We all know now that this is an experimental vaccine. It doesn't work like a traditional vaccine.

You know this but you're trying to disguise this fact.
So you're a paid shill after all.

Well done.

Well, most vaccines started out as an experimental vaccine.

So eventually it would work like a traditional one.

The difference being it injects the covid RNA which would then assemble protein into a compound that would induce a protective immune response

Just like most vaccines do eventually

You should stop listening to all these conspiracy theories. Most of them are responsible for millions of people not getting vaccinated against many diseases because of their scare mongering.

And as a doctor who has had to treat people who have suffered from vaccine preventable diseases, it does not make me happy.

But this new covid vaccine might not work. It induces an immune response. Whether that immune response is protective enough is what we have to see, and it takes some years to establish that.

In the 1990s we had a HIV vaccine. It induces an immune response in the body. But it was not protective enough which was why it was withdrawn.

You should go and take a course in basic genetics, then we can talk. Stop listening to known conspiracy liars.

byinks:


Have you seen my response ?

Have you seen mine?

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kikero:


Well, most vaccines started out as an experimental vaccine.

So eventually it would work like a traditional one.

The difference being it injects the covid RNA which would then assemble protein into a compound that would induce a protective immune response

Just like most vaccines do eventually

You should stop listening to all these conspiracy theories. Most of them are responsible for millions of people not getting vaccinated against many diseases because of their scare mongering.

And as a doctor who has had to treat people who have suffered from vaccine preventable diseases, it does not make me happy.

But this new covid vaccine might not work. It induces an immune response. Whether that immune response is protective enough is what we have to see, and it takes some years to establish that.

In the 1990s we had a HIV vaccine. It induces an immune response in the body. But it was not protective enough which was why it was withdrawn.

You should go and take a course in basic genetics, then we can talk. Stop listening to known conspiracy liars.

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You're not the only doctor on naira land.
Your views are not sacrosanct.
Deceiving the public instead of educating the public is NOT what your Hippocratic oath demands.
If you're really a doctor you should be disciplined by the medical guild for deliberately misleading the public for personal gain.

Kobojunkie:
I will not be among the first for this one.... I go wait as long as possible.

Even Putin himself never take am.

afroxyz:


Have you seen the prices the pharmaceutical companies are quoting for Covid vaccines? You would think $10 is a philanthropic gesture for a vaccine that costs $4 to produce. The pharmaceutical companies want to cash out big time.

The cost of production is only a tiny fraction of the cost of drugs and vaccines. The major factor is research. For every drug molecule that ever makes it to human consumption, there are perhaps tens of other substances in which the company has invested heavily but could not make it for all sorts of reasons. The one that proves safe and effective and granted registration has to pay for all that investment. That is why patents are granted to such novel drugs, giving the company monopoly of production and sale for several years. They are free to fix the prices without competition. They only become cheaper down the line when the patent expires and other companies are allowed to replicate the formula. That the reason HIV drugs were too expensive initially but there were protests especially from Africans as the drugs were out of reach of Africans who were having a huge HIV burden. Generics were then discretionally allowed to be produced in India for Africans even before the expiry of the patent, purely on humanitarian grounds. The pricing are not necessarily out of greed. If the companies don't invest in research or if they go under because they could not operate profitably, humanity suffers. COVID vaccines are likely to come out expensive but I expect governments to subsidize them.

byinks:
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You're not the only doctor on naira land.
Your views are not sacrosanct

But of course, I'm only mortal

dantewest:


Vaccines are usually very cheap and sometimes free. $10 is too much

They come free when a foundation like Bill and Melinda gates foundation pay for such to be administered for free... In life, nothing is free. Anything you get for free; someone somewhere paid for it.

kikero:


But of course, I'm only mortal

A mortal with a predilection for falsehood.

byinks:


A mortal with a predilection for falsehood.

dawnomike:
Huge revenue potential for Russia... If a vial of vaccine is sold for just $10. That translates to $10 Billion dollars within days for the country.

The reward of advanced research.

while our own research na reading outdated lecturing books and given students a wack lecture and most of all strike is wat they know

byinks:
[s][/s]

You're not the only doctor on naira land.
Your views are not sacrosanct.
Deceiving the public instead of educating the public is NOT what your Hippocratic oath demands.
If you're really a doctor you should be disciplined by the medical guild for deliberately misleading the public for personal gain.

I just saw this



You are really a riot!

@Buhari no wan go pay now abi

dantewest:
Why not?

No, you will rather it be from buhari.


See ur head

Tkester:
Watch the west go out on steroids. They will do everything to denigrate this great invention, but will they suceed? Only time will tell.

I'm happy the Russians achieved this. Kudos Vladimir!!

Africa seems oblivious in your competition, well kudos to the west also for being in your competition

the virus is still mutating. so I'll still be a bit sceptical about the success of this vaccine... they can show us the clinical trials results and what the end game will be.
I believed the vaccine should be out by next year only that the one who develop a vaccine will make money and control the game

Why thd process take long na. People are stressed out frm being indoor without something to arouse their delight

fabienjoe:


The cost of production is only a tiny fraction of the cost of drugs and vaccines. The major factor is research. For every drug molecule that ever makes it to human consumption, there are perhaps tens of other substances in which the company has invested heavily but could not make it for all sorts of reasons. The one that proves safe and effective and granted registration has to pay for all that investment. That is why patents are granted to such novel drugs, giving the company monopoly of production and sale for several years. They are free to fix the prices without competition. They only become cheaper down the line when the patent expires and other companies are allowed to replicate the formula. That the reason HIV drugs were too expensive initially but there were protests especially from Africans as the drugs were out of reach of Africans who were having a huge HIV burden. Generics were then discretionally allowed to be produced in India for Africans even before the expiry of the patent, purely on humanitarian grounds. The pricing are not necessarily out of greed. If the companies don't invest in research or if they go under because they could not operate profitably, humanity suffers. COVID vaccines are likely to come out expensive but I expect governments to subsidize them.

You are right, but is there anyway these costs can be verified? Pharmaceutical companies have always held society by the balls by citing high research costs which have to be factored into the price of drugs. Why don't the cost of these drugs go down even after economies of scale has taken place?

dermmy:


Exactly. According to the west the Russians hacked their Covid-19 research.

don't mind them.... the fear of Russia

ccollins:
u guys are ridiculous. The west u think are vindictive offer u Nigerians a better prosperous standard of life. Most Nigerians immigrants who are legitimately successful in the diaspora stay in the west and u are here criticizing the west due to the communist country. If Nigeria adopts the governance of the eastern blocs ,do u think u will be free. U will be like slaves in your own country

Well things have changed..... Nigerians in Russia are doing great there believe me... there's a guy that often update us about happenings in Russia.. on Nairaland... it isn't Wat the west portrayed it to be..

Believe president Putin at your own peril.

kikero:


I just saw this



You are really a riot!

Oga mi
I heard you're deliberately misleading the public for personal gain so it got me wondering if you own a vaccine company or you're selling vaccine

kikero:


I just saw this



You are really a riot!

Oga mi
I heard you're deliberately misleading the public for personal gain so it got me wondering if you own a vaccine company or you're selling vaccine

WHO should do the necessary Clinical trials on the said Vaccine ... 4 a President of a Country to test a Vaccine on his daughter. I think they know what they are doing...
WHO is pained Russia discovered it first, Pharmaceutical Companies who have invested are also pained, USA is pained.
They are asking of DATA for the drug.. Lols, Would you reveal the result of a research to an outsider easily without PATENT...
Make them calm down.. Trump said USA Co-vid 19 Vaccine will be ready before election which is November.. Nobody talked about if the Vaccine is potent.. Double standards.. Why didnt they wait till next year as WHO is making noise...

Tboysalau:

Oga mi
I heard you're deliberately misleading the public for personal gain so it got me wondering if you own a vaccine company or you're selling vaccine
Oga mi
I heard you're deliberately misleading the public for personal gain so it got me wondering if you own a vaccine company or you're selling vaccine

Don't be ridiculous

Of course I own a vaccine company. We produce vaccines that change DNA so that little children become turned into beautiful little girls who then mutate into little aliens from the planet Nibru from outer space.

I don't work alone, I work under the direction of my lord and master Bill Gates who talks to me in my dreams every night , and Lord Fauci who talks to me in my dreams in the afternoon

The job is so profitable, I am about to build a mansion in the sky. I also have access to a secret formula which would enable me to live for 400 years and more. My account contains 200 trillion dollars .

I love this job.

Thank God

Tkester:
Watch the west go out on steroids. They will do everything to denigrate this great invention, but will they suceed? Only time will tell.

I'm happy the Russians achieved this. Kudos Vladimir!!

They dare not, Russia is far AHEAD of them when it comes to that kind of a game,Putin will throw anything at anyone standing on the way of this, including the threat of Biological/chemical/Nuclear war

kikero:


Don't be ridiculous

Of course I own a vaccine company. We produce vaccines that change DNA so that little children become turned into beautiful little girls who then mutate into little aliens from the planet Nibru from outer space.

I don't work alone, I work under the direction of my lord and master Bill Gates who talks to me in my dreams every night , and Lord Fauci who talks to me in my dreams in the afternoon

The job is so profitable, I am about to build a mansion in the sky. I also have access to a secret formula which would enable me to live for 400 years and more. My account contains 200 trillion dollars .

I love this job.

I envy you oga mi
Please Ejooor Bikooo Dan Allah Edakun link your loyal boy naaaaah
Make I dey flex like you too in your business