EMILO2STAY:
if I have no idea of what am talking about out then why are the stars not moving? Why do we feel and see no movement? I asked you a question that is based on facts you that you can see for yourself, which should make you reason and realize the flaws of a spinning globe and you tell me i don't have any idea of what am saying. Do you reason at all? Do you have a thinking faculty?
Is the reality you witness through your sense a conspiracy theory ? Who has bewitched you ohh foolish man!!

Elon must is launching rockets in space are you a part of that team or are you the one manning the rockets? How do you know this, because it is what they told you. The same Elon musk who mocked his own scam of putting a tesla car in space and called it fake but people like you foolishly believe him.


I give you facts. Why are the stars the same if we are moving in space, why do we not feel movement?

You think am asking so you can answer? You can't answer them because this is your reality and that alone should make you have a rethink of what you believe and begin to make your research instead you choose to act cowardly and foolish.

You say the earth is oblate then where is the photo of the oblate earth from space?


Your reply reeks of foolishness and the need to remain in ignorance and denial.

emilo, I have successfully proved that to "so called" ship,disappearing across the horizon;as a fact for the earth's curvature, to be a lie. Ships disappear not because the earth is curved, we only see them appear to disappear due to perspective. There's no curve that's making ships disappear; our line of end at some particular distance from which,it reaches the vanishing point where we no longer see the ship. If you used a powerful telescope to zoom in in the ship,you'll still see it on a plain. Ships don't disappear because of earth's curvature guys. I'm still learning the science sha,but one ting I know for sure is; ships don't disappear due to earth's curvature. I remember being taught the ships disappear due to earth's curvature in geography. Even if I never understood the science,I just "believed" it. Nowadays, I don't argue unless I learn the science behind a thing and prove by myself. I'm not relyin on anyone for the truth anymore. If earth was curved, wen we user our telescope to zoom in on the ship, we would not see it because it would've moved down the curve. I have some videos here for these Dumbo's to watch. Most of them dont even understand the science behind the so called globe earth sef. Smh

Heartlessbanker:
emilo, I have successfully proved that to "so called" ship,disappearing across the horizon;as a fact for the earth's curvature, to be a lie. Ships disappear not because the earth is curved, we only see them appear to disappear due to perspective. There's no curve that's making ships disappear; our line of end at some particular distance from which,it reaches the vanishing point where we no longer see the ship. If you used a powerful telescope to zoom in in the ship,you'll still see it on a plain. Ships don't disappear because of earth's curvature guys. I'm still learning the science sha,but one ting I know for sure is; ships don't disappear due to earth's curvature. I remember being taught the ships disappear due to earth's curvature in geography. Even if I never understood the science,I just "believed" it. Nowadays, I don't argue unless I learn the science behind a thing and prove by myself. I'm not relyin on anyone for the truth anymore. If earth was curved, wen we user our telescope to zoom in on the ship, we would not see it because it would've moved down the curve. I have some videos here for these Dumbo's to watch. Most of them dont even understand the science behind the so called globe earth sef. Smh

good. Keep doing more research and your mind will be blown. Like I said we swim on a sea of lies and it takes only those who reason to come out of it.

Heartlessbanker:
emilo, I have successfully proved that to "so called" ship,disappearing across the horizon;as a fact for the earth's curvature, to be a lie. Ships disappear not because the earth is curved, we only see them appear to disappear due to perspective. There's no curve that's making ships disappear; our line of end at some particular distance from which,it reaches the vanishing point where we no longer see the ship. If you used a powerful telescope to zoom in in the ship,you'll still see it on a plain. Ships don't disappear because of earth's curvature guys. I'm still learning the science sha,but one ting I know for sure is; ships don't disappear due to earth's curvature. I remember being taught the ships disappear due to earth's curvature in geography. Even if I never understood the science,I just "believed" it. Nowadays, I don't argue unless I learn the science behind a thing and prove by myself. I'm not relyin on anyone for the truth anymore. If earth was curved, wen we user our telescope to zoom in on the ship, we would not see it because it would've moved down the curve. I have some videos here for these Dumbo's to watch. Most of them dont even understand the science behind the so called globe earth sef. Smh

I have this weird feeling that you are more reasonable and willing to learn. Let me bless you with my precious time and carefully explain things to you as long as you are honest, civil and willing to learn. Also, as long as you are not an arrogant lunatic like the other repulsive guy named Emilo who clearly suffers from the Dunning–Kruger effect (he should look up the meaning), I will engage with you in a productive and civil manner.

Look to debunk flat earth theory in 5 seconds, you can do an experiment if you have the resources. A laser beam of light, a ship, and a friend. Let your friend be onshore and with the laser beam. Project the laser beam on the ship and mark the point heavily ( so like shinning a touch light on the ship and marking the point where the light hits the ship). This should be done before the ship sails. You should be on the ship when it sails but your friend should constantly hold the laser beam at that position (perhaps leave it on a table so that he doesn't change the vertical position of the light beam). As the ship sails, you should just observe the projected beam of light on ship. You will observe that there will be a time when the beam of light becomes remarkably higher than the original marked position on the ship. The reason for this is because of the curvature of the earth. Light travels on a straight line, but the ship sails along the curvature of the earth which leads to the vertical displacement. This is the objective TRUTH. Objective TRUTH does not care about your feelings, religion, emotions or delusions.

Note: Do not use Emilo as your friend for the experiment. Not only is he a supremely dumb conspiracy theorist with a very weak mind who appeals to untrained mind by stringing together incoherent poor grammatical sentences springled with science sounding words he knows nothing about, but also he is very dubious and clearly has a stupendous ignorant agenda. I went through all his thread and shook my head in disbelieve. In the words of the Nobel Prize winner in Physics, Wolfgang Pauli, " He is not even wrong"-- (meaning what Emilo says is so bad that it cannot even be graded as being wrong).

osayi90:


Debating with you is like playing chess with a pigeon; it knocks off the chessboard and struts away, believing it has won. Enjoy your delusional world and thank you for exposing the deepest secrets of the universe. You, my friend, are a genius!! hehehehe.

No point arguing with flat earthers tbh. I saw him wailing in my mentions earlier and just left him.

You can not win against a flat-eather. Not because they're right but because:
1. The whole reason most of them exist is because they want to feel "woke". So they'll never accept it even if they're proven wrong.

2. They believe everything is a conspiracy theory. So even if you bring up some fact or tell them to Google something they can just pull up their conspiracy theory card.

3. They have no understanding of Physics. This fact already makes most communication with them pointless

4. They have to rely on ad hominem arguments since logical reasoning and research is foreign to them.

5. And their last resort is to go into full-on person attack mode when it's clear they can not win the debate.

Najdorf:

No point arguing with flat earthers tbh. I saw him wailing in my mentions earlier and just left him.

You can not win against a flat-eather. Not because they're right but because:
1. The whole reason most of them exist is because they want to feel "woke". So they'll never accept it even if they're proven wrong.

2. They believe everything is a conspiracy theory. So even if you bring up some fact or tell them to Google something they can just pull up their conspiracy theory card.

3. They have no understanding of Physics. This fact already makes most communication with them pointless

4. They have to rely on ad hominem arguments since logical reasoning and research is foreign to them.

5. And their last resort is to go into full-on person attack mode when it's clear they can not win the debate.

rants of a coward. Initially you asked for evidence and you it then said 98%of flat earthers don't know physics and challenged any one to prove you wrong then I put out questions to prove you but you ignored them only to quote another person and be saying nonsense. Why are you dodging? I thought you know physics. Silly coward.

EMILO2STAY:
rants of a coward. Initially you asked for evidence and you it then said 98%of flat earthers don't know physics and challenged any one to prove you wrong then I put out questions to prove you but you ignored them only to quote another person and be saying nonsense. Why are you dodging? I thought you know physics. Silly coward.

Once you started arguing whether gravity was real or not I just decided there was no hope .

Keep it up tho, the more you make posts like these the more you prove the 5 points I stated.

Najdorf:

Once you started arguing whether gravity was real or not I just decided there was no hope .

Keep it up tho, the more you make posts like these the more you prove the 5 points I stated.

and you believe gravity without proof in the real world and deny the fact that your weight and mass keeps you down right?
Then why do people weigh differently on a scale?

Pls define the word "matter" according to science and you will see how they contradict themselves and how you have been fooled.

You don't know what gravity is, your just cowaring away and pretending like you don't know what am talking about.

EMILO2STAY:
and you believe gravity without proof in the real world and deny the fact that your weight and mass keeps you down right?
Then why do people weigh differently on a scale?

Pls define the word "matter" according to science and you will see how they contradict themselves and how you have been fooled.

You don't know what gravity is, your just cowaring away and pretending like you don't know what am talking about.

I read this thread to last page and you are the only dumbass here

Makavelli25:
I read this thread to last page and you are the only dumbass here

there is no common sense in you that is why you cannot refute me with reason and presentable facts before calling me dumb. Fool don't quote me again.

EMILO2STAY:
there is no common sense in you that is why you cannot refute me with reason and presentable facts before calling me dumb. Fool don't quote me again.

I'll like to understand your point of view. I am open minded and want truths. Just be civil in your approach. Thanks.

My first question is if you 'appreciate' natural science as taught in schools. Or do you have your own science? Probably based on religion. Thanks.

Spy360:

I'll like to understand your point of view. I am open minded and want truths. Just be civil in your approach. Thanks.

My first question is if you 'appreciate' natural science as taught in schools. Or do you have your own science? Probably based on religion. Thanks.

the question should not be if gravity I appreciate natural science taught in schools, but I what we are taught in schools are true and can be observed, replicated and tested.

I don't have my own science. Rather what I present is the true science because they pass all the disciplines of science which is observable, testable and repeatable.

Next question...!!

osayi90:


I have this weird feeling that you are more reasonable and willing to learn. Let me bless you with my precious time and carefully explain things to you as long as you are honest, civil and willing to learn. Also, as long as you are not an arrogant lunatic like the other repulsive guy named Emilo who clearly suffers from the Dunning–Kruger effect (he should look up the meaning), I will engage with you in a productive and civil manner.

Look to debunk flat earth theory in 5 seconds, you can do an experiment if you have the resources. A laser beam of light, a ship, and a friend. Let your friend be onshore and with the laser beam. Project the laser beam on the ship and mark the point heavily ( so like shinning a touch light on the ship and marking the point where the light hits the ship). This should be done before the ship sails. You should be on the ship when it sails but your friend should constantly hold the laser beam at that position (perhaps leave it on a table so that he doesn't change the vertical position of the light beam). As the ship sails, you should just observe the projected beam of light on ship. You will observe that there will be a time when the beam of light becomes remarkably higher than the original marked position on the ship. The reason for this is because of the curvature of the earth. Light travels on a straight line, but the ship sails along the curvature of the earth which leads to the vertical displacement. This is the objective TRUTH. Objective TRUTH does not care about your feelings, religion, emotions or delusions.

Note: Do not use Emilo as your friend for the experiment. Not only is he a supremely dumb conspiracy theorist with a very weak mind who appeals to untrained mind by stringing together incoherent poor grammatical sentences springled with science sounding words he knows nothing about, but also he is very dubious and clearly has a stupendous ignorant agenda. I went through all his thread and shook my head in disbelieve. In the words of the Nobel Prize winner in Physics, Wolfgang Pauli, " He is not even wrong"-- (meaning what Emilo says is so bad that it cannot even be graded as being wrong).

your just a fool and a noise making coward. high powered zoom cameras can bring back into view ships that has gone down the hill of water right? You just debunked your self because even the laser experiment proves the flat earth

Instead of you to be open minded to the facts I expose you, your here forming knowledgeable but still stylishly avoid the questions I throw to you.

Mumu you think relativity is real yet the man who came up with the theory did not go to the sun to see how the Earth spins from there and you believe and call it science, Your just comfortably ignorant.

EMILO2STAY:
your just a fool and a noise making coward. high powered zoom cameras can bring back into view ships that has gone down the hill of water right? You just debunked your self because even the laser experiment proves the flat earth

Instead of you to be open minded to the facts I expose you, your here forming knowledgeable but still stylishly avoid the questions I throw to you.

Mumu you think relativity is real yet the man who came up with the theory did not go to the sun to see how the Earth spins from there and you believe and call it science, Your just comfortably ignorant.

Ignored! A creature who doesn't know the difference between mass and weight. If you think gravity is not real, go jump off from the top of a five-storey building. Either a slowpoke or a TROLL! I suspect the former.

EMILO2STAY:
your just a fool and a noise making coward. high powered zoom cameras can bring back into view ships that has gone down the hill of water right? You just debunked your self because even the laser experiment proves the flat earth

Instead of you to be open minded to the facts I expose you, your here forming knowledgeable but still stylishly avoid the questions I throw to you.

Mumu you think relativity is real yet the man who came up with the theory did not go to the sun to see how the Earth spins from there and you believe and call it science, Your just comfortably ignorant.

why do you waste your time saving all this Dumbo's? Most of them dont even understand the science behind their globe earth. Na only "professor so so so" said flat eart h is a hoax,so I believe him than you. Mumu zombies.

osayi90:


Ignored! A creature who doesn't know the difference between mass and weight. If you think gravity is not real, go jump off from the top of a five-storey building. Either a slowpoke or a TROLL! I suspect the former.

so jumping of a cliff is an evidence of gravity and not an evidence of mass or weight? Hahaha, now I understand the word " strong delusion".

What you have to present is only ad hominem attacks and emotions . you cant reason rationally that is why you will remain in your comfort zone of denial.

Why can't you prove to that slowpoke what gravity or relativity is? Mumu, you believe relativity and gravity with out question even when it cannot be found in the real world.

Go argue with you own eyes that the cars you see past you on the high way are not moving but it is you who is moving past them,... Foolish man.

Heartlessbanker:
why do you waste your time saving all this Dumbo's? Most of them dont even understand the science behind their globe earth. Na only "professor so so so" said flat eart h is a hoax,so I believe him than you. Mumu zombies.

it is strong delusion my brother. The evidence is all around us for those who search for it. There is a video bon the fake moon landing called " A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE MOON" about how the crew of Apollo 11 faked the first shot of the earth from the plane window. It seems the whole purpose of the moon landing mission was to convince the world that the earth was indeed a ball.

EMILO2STAY:
so jumping of a cliff is an evidence of gravity and not an evidence of mass or weight? Hahaha, now I understand the word " strong delusion".

What you have to present is only ad hominem attacks and emotions . you cant reason rationally that is why you will remain in your comfort zone of denial.

Why can't you prove to that slowpoke what gravity or relativity is? Mumu, you believe relativity and gravity with out question even when it cannot be found in the real world.

Go argue with you own eyes that the cars you see past you on the high way are not moving but it is you who is moving past them,... Foolish man.

You don't believe in any thing called Gravity or Gravitational force, so tell me, How come "your Sun and Moon" are not falling unto the surface of the earth? Or are they lighter than Air

EMILO2STAY:
the question should not be if gravity I appreciate natural science taught in schools, but I what we are taught in schools are true and can be observed, replicated and tested.

I don't have my own science. Rather what I present is the true science because they pass all the disciplines of science which is observable, testable and repeatable.

Next question...!!

Based on your last paragraph, you believe in the scientific methods, so how have you carried out those methods to arrive at your theories?

Simply put, what are your observations, what experiments have you done, and your conclusions are they published?

khingTony:


You don't believe in any thing called Gravity or Gravitational force, so tell me, How come "your Sun and Moon" are not falling unto the surface of the earth? Or are they lighter than Air

what does gravity have to do with the sun and moon?

EMILO2STAY:
what does gravity have to do with the sun and moon?

Why the earth is revolving around the sun is because the Earth is under the influence of the Sun's Gravitational pull on it, but according to you, the earth is bigger than the sun, so what's keeping the sun hanging and revolving??

Spy360:

Based on your last paragraph, you believe in the scientific methods, so how have you carried out those methods to arrive at your theories?

Simply put, what are your observations, what experiments have you done, and your conclusions are they published?

1. The earth is said to be curved 8inches/ m^2 but this has been proven false dozens of times because if this is true then the horizon we see which rises to the eye level should be below the eye level because as the earth moves away from you it should be sloping down as it goes father into the horizon.

The curvature maths also fails when put to test because buildings and bridges shouldn't have perfectly parallels columns for hundreds of miles such as the case of the longest bridge which is the danyang kushan grand bridge in China. no curvature was factored in during construction and they have perfect parallel columns for a whooping 108miles. Not even a drop in curvature was factored in.

Air crafts fly straight till they get to their destination. If the earth is curved then they would have to dip their nose down like every five minutes to account for the curvature.

It is impossible for an aircraft flying for an average 500 miles/ h due east to land on its destination moving 1000miles /h. This is simple maths.

Pilots when training using the target generation facility assumes a flat non rotating earth when simulating aircraft flight during training. This is because they can't compromise safety for their theories which have no realistic bases.


The sun and moon are the same size just like our eyes see them, and are about the same distance just as we see it. This is why during a solar eclipse the moon totally covers the sun.

The moon is not a solid object but likely a plasma because it has been observed that stars can be seen sometimes through the moon. Even the blue sky can be seen with the naked eye in the day time through the moon.

No human common sense or technology accounts for the rotation of the earth. If we are rotating at the rate of 1000miles per/h then the earth will fling off the ocean water just like when you pour water on a ball and spin it. There is absolutely no reason why things should seem stable just as we see them in real life if the earth rotates at 1000miles /h.

Water is an element that stays level on the surface. It doesn't take the shape of its container below it.
Water flows freely without a barrier to contain it on all sides. So this nullifies the ball earth theory that water curves around a ball. There Is no experiment any where in the world to show that water curves around a ball that spins for that matter.

These are just a few of them

khingTony:

Why the earth is revolving around the sun is because the Earth is under the influence of the Sun's Gravitational pull on it, but according to you, the earth is bigger than the sun, so what's keeping the sun hanging and revolving??

you call it gravitational pull and still say revolve. Why should the earth be revolving around the sun if the sun is pulling it? Can you pull something and have that thing revolve around you at the same time?

EMILO2STAY:
you call it gravitational pull and still say revolve. Why should the earth be revolving around the sun if the sun is pulling it? Can you pull something and have that thing revolve around you at the same time?

The earth has a velocity before coming in contact with the Gravitational Field of the sun, the same thing that will happen if you tie a ball to a string and spin the string over your head, your hand have a pull on the string, and it's velocity enables it to spin, while spinning it, if you leave the string, the ball will "fly off" away from you, same thing that will happen to the earth if the sun is not there.


Now stop avoiding my question, it seems you have no answer to it, "WHAT IS KEEPING THE SUN AND MOON HANGING AND REVOLVING

EMILO2STAY:
you call it gravitational pull and still say revolve. Why should the earth be revolving around the sun if the sun is pulling it? Can you pull something and have that thing revolve around you at the same time?

bro,please can we talk better on a dead thread?

wow what a wonderful thread...see as people dey share knowledge some are flat earthers while some are spherical earthers , is there any textbook you can recommend to Improve my knowledge on astrophysics and quantum physics? I've got quite a few but they seems to be complex to understand I've got the likes of special and general relativity of Einstein...I just need simple books to start with. thanks.

Heartlessbanker:
bro,please can we talk better on a dead thread?

yes just choose one and mention me.

khingTony:

The earth has a velocity before coming in contact with the Gravitational Field of the sun, the same thing that will happen if you tie a ball to a string and spin the string over your head, your hand have a pull on the string, and it's velocity enables it to spin, while spinning it, if you leave the string, the ball will "fly off" away from you, same thing that will happen to the earth if the sun is not there.


Now stop avoiding my question, it seems you have no answer to it, "WHAT IS KEEPING THE SUN AND MOON HANGING AND REVOLVING

I am not avoiding your question don't be delusional. I am trying to make you see the absurdity of your question.

How did you detect this velocity of the earth?

What experiment can be used to replicated and demonstrate this velocity of the earth?

Where you present at the time the earth and the sun formed to know that the earth has a velocity before coming in contact with the sun.

The common sense here is that gravity is said to be a force that pulls then how can a force which is supposed to pull hold something still at the same time?

How do you know the sun has gravity?

How do you know the suns gravity is pulling the earth.?

Let us first establish your belief of gravity before I answer your question.

Lordsagna:
wow what a wonderful thread...see as people dey share knowledge some are flat earthers while some are spherical earthers , is there any textbook you can recommend to Improve my knowledge on astrophysics and quantum physics? I've got quite a few but they seems to be complex to understand I've got the likes of special and general relativity of Einstein...I just need simple books to start with. thanks.

they are designed to be complex like that so you can't understand it because it is it is nonsense. Any thing you get from mainstream science is pure fiction and lies with the tag name science.

EMILO2STAY:
I am not avoiding your question don't be delusional. I am trying to make you see the absurdity of your question.

How did you detect this velocity of the earth?

What experiment can be used to replicated and demonstrate this velocity of the earth?

Where you present at the time the earth and the sun formed to know that the earth has a velocity before coming in contact with the sun.

The common sense here isn't that gravity is said to be a force that pulls then how can a force which is supposed to pull hold something still at the same time?

How do you know the sun has gravity?

How do you know the suns gravity is pulling the earth.?

Let us first establish your belief of gravity before I answer your question.

You keep deflecting my question.

khingTony:





You keep deflecting my question.

your question have no meaning because you assume a non existing force has something to do with the sun and moon.

EMILO2STAY:
your question have no meaning because you assume a non existing force has something to do with the sun and moon.

Now forget about "my non existing force", On your own reality and perception, what is keeping the sun hanging and revolving

I'm very sure you cannot answer that

EMILO2STAY:




1. The earth is said to be curved 8inches/ m^2 but this has been proven false dozens of times because if this is true then the horizon we see which rises to the eye level should be below the eye level because as the earth moves away from you it should be sloping down as it goes father into the horizon.

The curvature maths also fails when put to test because buildings and bridges shouldn't have perfectly parallels columns for hundreds of miles such as the case of the longest bridge which is the danyang kushan grand bridge in China. no curvature was factored in during construction and they have perfect parallel columns for a whooping 108miles. Not even a drop in curvature was factored in.

Air crafts fly straight till they get to their destination. If the earth is curved then they would have to dip their nose down like every five minutes to account for the curvature.

It is impossible for an aircraft flying for an average 500 miles/ h due east to land on its destination moving 1000miles /h. This is simple maths.

Pilots when training using the target generation facility assumes a flat non rotating earth when simulating aircraft flight during training. This is because they can't compromise safety for their theories which have no realistic bases.


The sun and moon are the same size just like our eyes see them, and are about the same distance just as we see it. This is why during a solar eclipse the moon totally covers the sun.

The moon is not a solid object but likely a plasma because it has been observed that stars can be seen sometimes through the moon. Even the blue sky can be seen with the naked eye in the day time through the moon.

No human common sense or technology accounts for the rotation of the earth. If we are rotating at the rate of 1000miles per/h then the earth will fling off the ocean water just like when you pour water on a ball and spin it. There is absolutely no reason why things should seem stable just as we see them in real life if the earth rotates at 1000miles /h.

Water is an element that stays level on the surface. It doesn't take the shape of its container below it.
Water flows freely without a barrier to contain it on all sides. So this nullifies the ball earth theory that water curves around a ball. There Is no experiment any where in the world to show that water curves around a ball that spins for that matter.

These are just a few of them

OK these are your beliefs which I appreciate. But interestingly you have made the same errors which you accuse other proponents of. That is your theories are based only on rational thoughts.

While you respond to the above, consider the following questions, I want to learn from you:

1. If the earth is flat, what other planetary bodies are flat shaped? It is assumed here that they formed at about the same time and conditions.

2. If the sun and moon are the same size as we see them, how can you account for distances. That is if the sun is that small (a round football) does it imply it is not far away and very reachable.

3. How can you account for differences in time zones, weather, seasons across the earth. It is believed that different places have different longitudes and latitudes which influences the impact of the sun per time.

4. Newton proposed the theories of gravitational pull and push to explain many phenomena you mentioned, Einstein proposed the theory or curved surfaces and relativity. You don't believe in those theories, so how do you explain how water doesn't flow out of the earth's flat surface into bottomless regions and how a stone thrown upwards falls straight downwards towards you.