SilverNorGold:


Lol, my beloved brother, that's no longer an opinion, but a fact.

1. It's a FACT protesters are given free food.
2. It's a fact that most protesters are now using the protest to mingle..
3. It's a fact that the protest has now become an arena for socializing in a manner akin to partying and feasting, this has been corroborated by thousands of protesters, including celebrities. They have even tagged it "partying and feasting".. I am not a protester. So my points are ones made by thousands of protesters, including notable "leaders" like Falz and Segalink(who alleged the protest has been hijacked)
4. It's a fact that pictures of Hot males and females "exchanging currents" have resurfaced online..

All these point to one thing - THE PROTEST has been DEFEATED.. And they are PROOF I DIDN'T MAKE ANYTHING UP. My points were collected from various sources, which can be verified even on this forum.

God bless you.

You're still a long way from the point.
It's very simple.
Show PROOF that the protest is being fuelled by HUNGER.
What you're doing is akin to saying that people attend weddings only because they're hungry and there's free food there.
It's a fact that people eat at weddings.
It's a fact that people mingle at weddings
It's a fact that people exchange currents at weddings.
But we all know the reason for attending weddings is to rejoice and celebrate with the couple.
Again show PROOF that the protesters have no food to eat at home and are buoyed by the prospect of free food.

Agbegbaorogboye:

You're still a long way from the point.
It's very simple.
Show PROOF that the protest is being fuelled by HUNGER.
What you're doing is akin to saying that people attend weddings only because they're hungry and there's free food there.
It's a fact that people eat at weddings.
It's a fact that people mingle at weddings
It's a fact that people exchange currents at weddings.
But we all know the reason for attending weddings is to rejoice and celebrate with the couple.
Again show PROOF that the protesters have no food to eat at home and are buoyed by the prospect of free food.

How do you expect anyone to provide the kinda proof you are asking for ? how? You no dey see am everywhere on social media? abeg shift jarey

Agbegbaorogboye:

You're still a long way from the point.
It's very simple.
Show PROOF that the protest is being fuelled by HUNGER.
What you're doing is akin to saying that people attend weddings only because they're hungry and there's free food there.
It's a fact that people eat at weddings.
It's a fact that people mingle at weddings
It's a fact that people exchange currents at weddings.
But we all know the reason for attending weddings is to rejoice and celebrate with the couple.
Again show PROOF that the protesters have no food to eat at home and are buoyed by the prospect of free food.

My brother, the basic proof is the fact that NIGERIA IS THE POVERTY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, coupled with the allegations of people diverting from the initial aim of the protest, by thousands of protesters, are sufficient proof. I don't have to go to their houses - which is impossible even if I want to - to verify. However, verified reports of the poverty state of Nigeria is enough for me to know that NO FOOD in most houses..

But Nigeria go better..

GOATandYAMtheory:


How do you expect anyone to provide the kinda proof you are asking for ? how? You no dey see am everywhere on social media? abeg shift jarey

My brother, no mind am.. Him just wan oppose.. But God go help us..

SilverNorGold:


My brother, government CAN'T, NO GOVERNMENT CAN, implement ALL demands within a very short period of time. Some of the demands have been met, while the remaining are BEING implemented. They're still work IN PROGRESS..

I hope you understand, my brother.

We should give them a benefit of doubt. We can't be constituting nuisances on the street until ALL DEMANDS are met. Unless you're telling me the protest will be going on for a long time until EVERYTHING is 100%, which doesn't make any sense to me.

Please, let us be patient. Our cries have been heard. Let's give government the benefit of the doubt.

May God bless us all.

You are talking in the nonsense..The government that never fulfill promises is what you are asking to give benefit of doubt..You are talking as if you dont live in Nigeria

adekennis:


You are talking in the nonsense..The government that never fulfill promises is what you are asking to give benefit of doubt..You are talking as if you dont live in Nigeria

My beloved brother, this government, under the able leadership of President Mohammadu Buhari, is quite different. It's not like the other wicked government we are used to. Trust me, our cries have been heard and all demands will be implemented.

President Mohammadu Buhari means well for Nigeria. Let's be patient, my lovely brother.

God bless us all..

SilverNorGold:


My brother, the basic proof is the fact that NIGERIA IS THE POVERTY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, coupled with the allegations of people diverting from the initial aim of the protest, by thousands of protesters, are sufficient proof. I don't have to go to their houses - which is impossible even if I want to - to verify. However, verified reports of the poverty state of Nigeria is enough for me to know that NO FOOD in most houses..

But Nigeria go better..

So who is to blame?
This protest have been able to raise over 75 million and have used only over 10 million to feed protesters across the nation this first week
With a balance of over 60million remaining

How much did the minister claim she spent?
How many Nigerians felt even a bit of it?

The main issue is that this protest have opened the eyes of young people to the power they posses in this modern world

And it's a very good catalyst
Young people are seeing there power
They have the numbers

This is just a preamble to 2023 election
The youth Democratic Party they are proposing should come on line

Every young person should be encouraged to make sure they vote

We must legally and through the ballot box chase away all these old men that have squanderd our patrimony
Enough is enough

We must take this nation through voting
Our eyes has been opened by whatever that has happened this week

djon78:





So who is to blame?
This protest have been able to raise over 75 million and have used only over 10 million to feed protesters across the nation this first week
With a balance of over 60million remaining

How much did the minister claim she spent?
How many Nigerians felt even a bit of it?

The main issue is that this protest have opened the eyes of young people to the power they posses in this modern world

And it's a very good catalyst
Young people are seeing there power
They have the numbers

This is just a preamble to 2023 election
The youth Democratic Party they are proposing should come on line

Every young person should be encouraged to make sure they vote

We must legally and through the ballot box chase away all these old men that have squanderd our patrimony
Enough is enough

We must take this nation through voting
Our eyes has been opened by whatever that has happened this week

My brother, now you speak like a patriot. Enough is enough! I love to see people fight for the wellbeing of Nigeria, irrespective of our party differences. We can never agree on one particular party or ideology, but as long as we all agree to make Nigeria great, I will be happy..

Now that the government has begun implementing all our demands, why not sheathe our swords and watch how things, especially now that our cries have been heard ALL OVER THE WORLD and tweeted by renowned personalities, go?

Regarding the minister, I have commented above regarding it, please check the first page.

As for corrupt and wicked political elements, their days of sabotaging Nigeria are numbered.

God bless you for this comment, my brother.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, government CAN'T, NO GOVERNMENT CAN, implement ALL demands within a very short period of time. Some of the demands have been met, while the remaining are BEING implemented. They're still work IN PROGRESS..

I hope you understand, my brother.

We should give them a benefit of doubt. We can't be constituting nuisances on the street until ALL DEMANDS are met. Unless you're telling me the protest will be going on for a long time until EVERYTHING is 100%, which doesn't make any sense to me.

Please, let us be patient. Our cries have been heard. Let's give government the benefit of the doubt.

May God bless us all.

youths are not trusting their governments.

joyandfaith:


youths are not trusting their governments.

My brother, some youth, not all.. I and other well-meaning Nigerian youth trust in the leadership of President Mohammadu Buhari. We trust he'll do the right thing, regarding this issue.

God bless you.

:Poverty is it.. Hunger is it... Bro, more ink to your pen! My brother, God bless you. And may He also save Nigeria from hunger. Things hunger can do.. Can be terrible

SilverNorGold:


My brother, some youth, not all.. I and other well-meaning Nigerian youth trust in the leadership of President Mohammadu Buhari. We trust he'll do the right thing, regarding this issue.

God bless you.

ok protesting youths!!!!

joyandfaith:


ok protesting youths!!!!

Hehehe, my beloved brother. You eh..

But trust me, Nigeria go better.

God go see us through

SilverNorGold:


My beloved brother, this government, under the able leadership of President Mohammadu Buhari, is quite different. It's not like the other wicked government we are used to. Trust me, our cries have been heard and all demands will be implemented.

President Mohammadu Buhari means well for Nigeria. Let's be patient, my lovely brother.

God bless us all..

Im staunch supporter of Buhari, go though my old post if you think Im lying..The truth is that the youth are tired..The government keep pushing every burden on us once they need money, why increase fuel at this critical time when there is no money , no palliatives during the lockdown, electricity increase, they promised to fix refineries 5yrs ago nothing has been done, a bag of rice is 30k ,do you know some people can no longer afford to eat ordinary rice? The government is being incentive towards the plight of the people.The endsars you hearing people chanting actually means we are tired.we have been pushed to the wall...I know Buhari means well but he's not doing enough hence people lost hope in him.If we cant see positive changes the past 5yrs,is it now you expect us to see changes??

GOATandYAMtheory:


How do you expect anyone to provide the kinda proof you are asking for ? how? You no dey see am everywhere on social media? abeg shift jarey

If you have no proof then you have no business making an assertion.
Every rational being knows that natural justice demands that he who asserts must prove

SilverNorGold:


My brother, now you speak like a patriot. Enough is enough! I love to see people fight for the wellbeing of Nigeria, irrespective of our party differences. We can never agree on one particular party or ideology, but as long as we all agree to make Nigeria great, I will be happy..

Now that the government has begun implementing all our demands, why not sheathe our swords and watch how things, especially now that our cries have been heard ALL OVER THE WORLD and tweeted by renowned personalities, go?

Regarding the minister, I have commented above regarding it, please check the first page.

As for corrupt and wicked political elements, their days of sabotaging Nigeria are numbered.

God bless you for this comment, my brother.

See we all want the best for this nation
When you travel around the world
And then you come home and see the mess facing us
You will just get angry with bad governance

It's time we enforce
Good governance across this nation
We deserve the best
And Nigeria has the capacity and capabilities for the best
It's just non empathy leadership
A leadership that doesn't give a damn about the ordinary man
Which is very pathetic

djon78:




See we all want the best for this nation
When you travel around the world
And then you come home and see the mess facing us
You will just get angry with bad governance

It's time we enforce
Good governance across this nation
We deserve the best
And Nigeria has the capacity and capabilities for the best
It's just non empathy leadership
A leadership that doesn't give a damn about the ordinary man
Which is very pathetic

My brother, Nigeria will be great.. I have faith in Nigeria. And Nigeria will prove me right.

God bless us all..

SilverNorGold:


My brother, the basic proof is the fact that NIGERIA IS THE POVERTY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, coupled with the allegations of people diverting from the initial aim of the protest, by thousands of protesters, are sufficient proof. I don't have to go to their houses - which is impossible even if I want to - to verify. However, verified reports of the poverty state of Nigeria is enough for me to know that NO FOOD in most houses..

But Nigeria go better..

There's no food in most Nigerian houses?
Prove it. The world poverty clock who named Nigeria poverty capital of the world puts the number of poor at about 90m out of 200m. The term poverty capital is a description for having the highest number of poor people not that most homes are without food.
That said, you pronounce blessings on the man who has the mandate to turn the statistics around while you leave the people who need the blessings more to their fate then turn around to blame them for seeking for food. Judge yourself.
Finally, even if most homes are without food, you still have not shown proof that those protesters come from such homes.

adekennis:


Im staunch supporter of Buhari, go though my old post if you think Im lying..The truth is that the youth are tired..The government keep pushing every burden on us once they need money, why increase fuel at this critical time when there is no money , no palliatives during the lockdown, electricity increase, they promised to fix refineries 5yrs ago nothing has been done, a bag of rice is 30k ,do you know some people can no longer afford to eat ordinary rice? The government is being incentive towards the plight of the people.The endsars you hearing people chanting actually means we are tired.we have been pushed to the wall...I know Buhari means well but he's not doing enough hence people lost hope in him.If we cant see positive changes the past 5yrs,is it now you expect us to see changes??

My brother, you have spoken well.. The current issue President Mohammadu Buhari is solving is a cumulation of issues of several years, coupled with the fact that our primary source of income is down. It's not gonna be easy, for sure. It would require sacrifice and patience from us..

But truth be said, our leaders really destroyed this country. They did terrible damages to it. But their day of judgment is coming.. And very close..

Nigeria must be great.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, no mind am.. Him just wan oppose.. But God go help us..

I oppose because I'm part of the protesters. And I know I'm not hungry, don't smoke weed or in need of "exchange of currents*.
To reduce the lawful exercise our legitimate right to a struggle for food is as insulting as saying our ability to breath is a waste.
It's an attempt to purchase an alibi for the powers to use anytime they determine they've had enough of us and brute force is the way forward.
It is pure evil and you ought to be shamed

SilverNorGold:


My beloved brother, this government, under the able leadership of President Mohammadu Buhari, is quite different. It's not like the other wicked government we are used to. Trust me, our cries have been heard and all demands will be implemented.

President Mohammadu Buhari means well for Nigeria. Let's be patient, my lovely brother.

God bless us all..

Speaking of poverty. President Buhari whom you worship said in 2019, that he'll pull 10m people out of poverty by creating 10m jobs every year for the next five years.
Where are the 10m jobs of 2019-20 since you said he's different. Let's start from there.

Agbegbaorogboye:

There's no food in most Nigerian houses?
Prove it. The world poverty clock who named Nigeria poverty capital of the world puts the number of poor at about 90m out of 200m. The term poverty capital is a description for having the highest number of poor people not that most homes are without food.
That said, you pronounce blessings on the man who has the mandate to turn the statistics around while you leave the people who need the blessings more to their fate then turn around to blame them for seeking for food. Judge yourself.
Finally, even if most homes are without food, you still have not shown proof that those protesters come from such homes.

My good brother, the about 86.9 million people are living in extreme poverty, NOT just POVERTY, please take note of the adjective "extreme".. It doesn't mean ONLY 86.9 million people live in poverty.. Their poverty is EXTREME, and there are others who live in POVERTY...

Also, note that "have no food" as written isn't literal, and shouldn't be taken literally. It means they live from hand to mouth or STRUGGLE to survive.

Regarding the "blessing part", you know it's a wrong accusation. I am not showering blessings on any one particular entity. I also "shower" blessings on Nigeria, the President, the masses, the Patriots and even those who attack me. Anyone can easily verify this by going through my posts.

Really disappointed in you for resorting to lies, but it's okay. It should be expected. The kind of patriotic job we do, fighting for the greatness of Nigeria, comes with all manner of surprises, and we've seen them all, that we aren't surprised anymore.

All my points above are sufficient proof that most of the protesters are now after food and other pecs, like I have said before. If you still want me to send you screenshots of people's home, you'll have to bankroll the expenses and I'll gladly oblige. If not, then accept the sources I cited, which, to me, are sufficient.

God bless you, my brother.

Agbegbaorogboye:

Speaking of poverty. President Buhari whom you worship said in 2019, that he'll pull 10m people out of poverty by creating 10m jobs every year for the next five years.
Where are the 10m jobs of 2019-20 since you said he's different. Let's start from there.

My brother, what's the price of oil then and now?

Agbegbaorogboye:

I oppose because I'm part of the protesters. And I know I'm not hungry, don't smoke weed or in need of "exchange of currents*.
To reduce the lawful exercise our legitimate right to a struggle for food is as insulting as saying our ability to breath is a waste.
It's an attempt to purchase an alibi for the powers to use anytime they determine they've had enough of us and brute force is the way forward.
It is pure evil and you ought to be shamed

My brother, that's why I didn't say ALL THE PROTESTERS..

God bless you.

SilverNorGold:


My good brother, the about 86.9 million people are living in extreme poverty, NOT just POVERTY, please take note of the adjective "extreme".. It doesn't mean ONLY 86.9 million people live in poverty.. Their poverty is EXTREME, and there are others who live in POVERTY...

Also, note that "have no food" as written isn't literal, and shouldn't be taken literally. It means they live from hand to mouth or STRUGGLE to survive.

Regarding the "blessing part", you know it's a wrong accusation. I am not showering blessings on any one particular entity. I also "shower" blessings on Nigeria, the President, the masses, the Patriots and even those who attack me. Anyone can easily verify this by going through my posts.

Really disappointed in you for resorting to lies, but it's okay. It should be expected. The kind of patriotic job we do, fighting for the greatness of Nigeria, comes with all manner of surprises, and we've seen them all, that we aren't surprised anymore.

All my points above are sufficient proof that most of the protesters are now after food and other pecs, like I have said before. If you still want me to send you screenshots of people's home, you'll have to bankroll the expenses and I'll gladly oblige. If not, then accept the sources I cited, which, to me, are sufficient.

God bless you, my brother.

Still you miss the point. Whether extreme poverty or mild poverty, my aim is to show you that you can't use that statistics to make a claim that most homes in Nigeria are without food.
Always read and understand issues.

You say I lie? Do you need me to screenshot your signature text for you? At least I have proof of what I assert now. Again you still miss the point as usual.

Good you now realise what is needed to prove your statement about food being the driving factor for the protesters. An admission that you lack the capacity and resources to carry out that test should show you that your initial claim is baseless and a slander and should be discarded. You should also apologize for depending on hearsay to make sweeping statements on people.

What "patriotic job" do you do exactly? By every indices of being a patriot, I can assure you that you fall miserably. Find something else to call whatever you do.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, what's the price of oil then and now?

What does the price of oil have to do with making a promise and keeping it. He never said he was making that promise based on the price of oil. He was not coerced or pressured into making it neither was it a campaign statement.
It's a pointer to his inability to mean what he says and say what he means.

SilverNorGold:


My brother, that's why I didn't say ALL THE PROTESTERS..

God bless you.

This raises more questions: what exactly do these people want? Is it actually about SARS? Is ENDSARS just a front for something bigger? Are criminals behind this? And so many other questions..

But it looks like we've been looking too far for something that's very close, right in front of us... HUNGER, AWOOF..

I've reproduced part of your op for you. So much for the patriot who doesn't lie.

Agbegbaorogboye:


I've reproduced part of your op for you. So much for the patriot who doesn't lie.

My beloved brother, again, quoting a part to cement your allegation isn't gonna do any of us good. It's like you're taking this as a war.. Good, you read that part.. Did you read to the end to grasp my point?

What about this part

Quite unfortunate that the protest, which started off genuinely, as a fight for freedom, and the call for the end of police brutality has now been reduced to a poverty alleviation program. Not only that, unscrupulous elements have desecrated the protest grounds, turning it into processions, music and dancing grounds..

If you read with a non biased mind, you'll see where I separated the genuine protesters from the opportunists. This is also echoed in my other posts.

Please let's avoid jumping into unnecessary conclusions. It's not good.

God bless you.

SilverNorGold:


My beloved brother, if you have any proof of fraud, please petition the relevant authorities.

Sadiya Umar Farouq has denied the allegations and challenged ICPC and anyone with proof to publish details of persons involved in N2.7b school feeding fund fraud.

Once this is provided and the government fails to act, then we can complain.

But for now, let's give her the benefit of the doubt that she's innocent, as guaranteed by the law, which declares all the accused innocent until proven guilty.

God bless Nigeria.

Who are you to declare the protesters criminals, cheif judge.

Agbegbaorogboye:

What does the price of oil have to do with making a promise and keeping it. He never said he was making that promise based on the price of oil. He was not coerced or pressured into making it neither was it a campaign statement.
It's a pointer to his inability to mean what he says and say what he means.

My brother, we all know the HEALTH of the ECONOMY IS ESSENTIAL for diversification and creation of jobs. When there's little money, how do you expect government to even cater for basic needs like payment of salaries? Not to talk of investing into other areas.

Also, failing to keep a promise doesn't necessarily mean you intentionally jettisoned it. It could mean circumstances, beyond your control, are responsible.

But despite that, the Buhari administration has done a lot to provide jobs in the area of agriculture, infrastructure, and other programs. He has also approved the commencement for Special Public Works Programme which will engage 1000 persons from each of the 774 Local Government Areas in the country..

Other programmes are being deliberated on and will be unveiled soon.

The government is also working on power, which previous administrations wrecked, by looting huge amounts of money, meant for its improvement, and later abandoned. Once there's stable electricity, it'll boost entrepreneurship and businesses will grow. This in turn will create jobs..

All these require enormous funds. But President Buhari has managed to sail through..

So, please, my good brother, let us be patient. President Mohammadu Buhari means well for Nigeria.

God bless us all.

Agbegbaorogboye:

Still you miss the point. Whether extreme poverty or mild poverty, my aim is to show you that you can't use that statistics to make a claim that most homes in Nigeria are without food.
Always read and understand issues.

You say I lie? Do you need me to screenshot your signature text for you? At least I have proof of what I assert now. Again you still miss the point as usual.

Good you now realise what is needed to prove your statement about food being the driving factor for the protesters. An admission that you lack the capacity and resources to carry out that test should show you that your initial claim is baseless and a slander and should be discarded. You should also apologize for depending on hearsay to make sweeping statements on people.

What "patriotic job" do you do exactly? By every indices of being a patriot, I can assure you that you fall miserably. Find something else to call whatever you do.

My beloved brother, you're beginning to turn this peaceful discussion into personal attack.. Please calm down.

Mild poverty, extreme poverty, are very important, my brother. Read your post, you completely missed it. Show humility for once. Lol..

I hope you got my previous post? That should help..

Regarding food, proof of hunger, etc.. I am 100% certain you are intentionally avoiding to read those points I noted earlier. I, however, urge you to go back and reread them.. I have proven, satisfactorily, using data collected from various protesters, some of which can be seen on the Front Page of this glorious forum..

My brother, please, be calming down, no be war...

Protesting my patriotic tag is none of my business as it's clearly your own opinion. And I respect it.. If you don't see me as a patriot, there are others who do, and all of you are entitled to your opinions.

God bless us all.

PHOTSEE:

Who are you to declare the protesters criminals, cheif judge.

My brother, I said CRIMINAL ELEMENTS have hijacked the protest.. Check my post history. Clearly stated. Even the convener of #EndSars has corroborated my claim, that the protests have been hijacked.

God bless Nigeria.