WeissVonner:
I wonder why one is 6-0 and the other 4-6.

I did some research. Thank goodness for basketball reference. In all of MJ's finals, he never faced a player who averaged 30 points in the finals. He faced a 25ppg player only twice (Barkley 27.3 and Malone 25.0). And of course, he never faced two 25ppg players on the same team.

Meanwhile, in LeBron's ten finals, he's faced a 30ppg player twice (KD in OKC and KD in GS). He's faced nine 25+ppg players (KD trice, Curry trice, Westbrook, Dirk and Butler). And he's faced two 25+ppg players on the same team three times (KD & Curry twice, and KD & Westbrook).

MJ played in a finals against a team which the second best player averaged 10.7 points (Hornacek in 1998). The best second highest scorer he's faced averaged 18.6 (Magic).

The worst 2nd second highest scorer LeBron ever faced is Bam Adebayo (15.3), with the injury. The best second highest scorer LeBron has faced averaged 27.0 ppg (Westbrook and Curry).

steady986:

I did some research. Thank goodness for basketball reference. In all of MJ's finals, he never faced a player who averaged 30 points in the finals. He faced a 25ppg player only twice (Barkley 27.3 and Malone 25.0). And of course, he never faced two 25ppg players on the same team.

Meanwhile, in LeBron's ten finals, he's faced a 30ppg player twice (KD in OKC and KD in GS). He's faced nine 25+ppg players (KD trice, Curry trice, Westbrook, Dirk and Butler). And he's faced two 25+ppg players on the same team three times (KD & Curry twice, and KD & Westbrook).

MJ played in a finals against a team which the second best player averaged 10.7 points (Hornacek in 1998). The best second highest scorer he's faced averaged 18.6 (Magic).

The worst 2nd second highest scorer LeBron ever faced is Bam Adebayo (15.3), with the injury. The best second highest scorer LeBron has faced averaged 27.0 ppg (Westbrook and Curry).

Yeah that Jazz team in 1998 especially was trash.

MJ faced his best competition in his Conference (until his conference became just as useless), Bron faced his best competition in the finals. If Bron was drafted by a western conference team, he'd have fewer finals appearances and If Jordan was put in Brons shoes, he'd have more finals losses but fewer finals appearances.

The whole finals record thing is just a very re.tarded argument. It had never made sense, only idiots don't understand the fallacy it entails.

Thats it for me. It was fun while it lasted. At least this time it ended on a much higher note.

Rob Parker when LeBron got to L.A: "he's done winning championships. He's in L.A to make movies. He's a 6'8" version of Kevin Hart."

Rob Parker when LeBron won the championship with L.A: "I always thought he was gonna win at some point no matter where he is, because his talent was that way."

Clown. Typical LeBron hater

For those that say that LeBron got more help than Jordan, please study this chart very well. It illustrates those important teammates both Jordan and LeBron played with on the to the finals. It shows what those important teammates had achieved before they played with either LeBron or Jordan, what they achieved playing with them and what they were able to achieve after. Enjoy!

For better view.

Cinacci124:
For better view.

Quite interesting

Cinacci124:
For those that say that LeBron got more help than Jordan, please study this chart very well. It illustrates those important teammates both Jordan and LeBron played with on the to the finals. It shows what those important teammates had achieved before they played with either LeBron or Jordan, what they achieved playing with them and what they were able to achieve after. Enjoy!

Interesting... A lot to unpack

It has only been a week but it feels like a month. Im still on a high, I did not think a fourth ring could happen in year 17. I thot Rockets would take Lakers down in game 7...mumu me!!

birdman:
It has only been a week but it feels like a month. Im still on a high, I did not think a fourth ring could happen in year 17. I thot Rockets would take Lakers down in game 7...mumu me!!

It's just the first of a three peat. You heard it here first.

steady986:
First he claimed the Rockets didn't miss 27 straight threes, then when he realised he was wrong he tried to use English to confuse us. Lol.

And I love how we've gotten him to talk favourably about LeBron in an argument

I'm convinced beyond reasonable doubt that you cannot read. This is not even laughing matter again. Go and enrol in night school or something. What a Muppet

Lool. Where did you get the impression that I was incapable of talking favorably about LeNomad? What is this crackhead behavior you lot keep exhibiting

A40:
I disagree. A healthy Chris Paul would have led the Rockets past Golden State in 2018. The Warriors were down at halftime in Game 7 by double digits and if they had any player with any kind of midrange game they beat the Warriors

It took a CP3 injury and Rockets missing 27 consecutive missed 3's for Golden State to advance. They were not unbeatable. The Rockets completely shat the bed in the second half. James Harden choked shooting 12/29


That team was supposed to win a 4peat. Have you forgotten what they said at their unveiling? There was a palpable fear that we were seeing a dynasty that had never existed in league history.
It was easy and it was a question of how many rings they would win not if they would make 4 Finals. You had Wade, Bosh, Battier on defense, Mike Miller off the bench then they added Ray Allen, added Rashad Lewis and other role players. That team was super loaded and the league should never have stood a chance



The Heat's strengths obviously LeNomad was their best player but they had a strong bench, they also had a historically great defense. I still maintain that that Heat team should have won 3 or 4 rings in a row

Roland17:
@Birdman you don hear about D. Morey?

You're awfully quiet today I wonder why.

Hope you enjoyed GOAT Brady absolutely dildoze Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Shit Packers

Special delivery.

I've been seeing some context free propaganda so we have to come and balance the equation

35th

Cinacci124:
For better view.

Where is D.Wade Finals MVP award in this your chart?

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nairamaniac:
well, we cant really tell, cos they didnt have those players with mid range games. so end of the day its filled up with WHAT IFS.
but it just seems like Its impossible to beat the warriors in a series best of 7, at their best.

The koko is the Rockets proved they were beatable. They didn't pull it off but any team that can push you to 7 games and be leading you by double digits at halftime can definitely beat you.

nairamaniac:

Comparing starting 5 to Starting 5, the warriors are ahead of that heat team.

That's neither here nor there

The Heat had better depth and for that era the Heat had far and away the best roster in the league

nairamaniac:

that's where coaching-skills and leadership had a factor.
if that team was coached by a Phil Jackson, they were more likely to 4peat.

Na wa oh. You people act like Phil Jackson never lost a series. Wasn't he coach when Dallas swept them? Didn't he lose to Detroit with Kobe, Shaq, Payton and Malone

nairamaniac:

And as per the first finals loss against Dallas, I wasn't really surprised. Lebron and wade were just taking turns thruout that season and into the playoffs.

their last season together was even worse. wade was completely washed out by that season.
also, I think I remember bosh having to play some games, upon being unfit/injured

The first finals LeBron was passive and terrible. He was the 3rd best scorer on his team and did not play even passable defense on Jason Terry

The last Finals Wade struggled but the entire team lacked the will to play defense. And trust me the rest of the league were not sympathizing with a team that had Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade and Ray Allen as secondary options

LeNomad displayed some of the most fantastic statpaddin you will ever see in that 2014 Finals as well. Almost 40% of his buckets came with the Heat down by 15 points or more

I think between Games 3-5 he scored 51 points with the Heat down by 15 or more

A40:
You're awfully quiet today I wonder why.

Hope you enjoyed GOAT Brady absolutely dildoze Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Shit Packers

WATCH IT!!! I knew you would show up with your DISRESPECTFUL SELF...

it's Monday and I will not have you start the week DISRESPECTING the GOAT!

Brady had nothing to do with it for the most part!. The Bucs Defense showed up with picks and crazy sacks!

I almost broke the TV yesterday evening watching pick after pick, sack after sack!!

Roland17:


WATCH IT!!! I knew you would show up with your DISRESPECTFUL SELF...

it's Monday and I will not have you start the week DISRESPECTING the GOAT!

Brady had nothing to do with it for the most part!. The Bucs Defense showed up with picks and crazy sacks!

I almost broke the TV yesterday evening watching pick after pick, sack after sack!!

I've always told you never to compare Aaron Rodgers to the real GOAT TB12. He's an imposter just like LeNomad (wearing same number) but he's worse because he's even less qualified than LeNomad

A40:
I've always told you never to compare Aaron Rodgers to the real GOAT TB12. He's an imposter just like LeNomad (wearing same number) but he's worse because he's even less qualified than LeNomad

How dare you!!!!! This is where I draw the line!

The NOMAD can assemble players like a mechanic working for an automobile company and still post horrible finals aggregate but the GOAT can not.

Roland17:


How dare you!!!!! This is where I draw the line!

The NOMAD can assemble players like a mechanic working for an automobile company and still post horrible finals aggregate but the GOAT can not.

I rarely quote here but Brady is the goat. I love Rodgers though

Roland17:


How dare you!!!!! This is where I draw the line!

The NOMAD can assemble players like a mechanic working for an automobile company and still post horrible finals aggregate but the GOAT can not.

Ahhhhh well I won't fault you there. NFL doesn't allow you to hand pick guys that easily but still 1 SB in his entire career. That's kinda awful

Top 15 players going into next season:

1. LeBron James
2. Kawhi Leonard
3. Anthony Davis
4. Giannis Antetokounmpo
5. Luka Doncic
6. Kevin Durant
7. James Harden
8. Steph Curry
9. Jimmy Butler
10. Damian Lillard
11. Nikola Jokic
12. Kyrie Irving
13. Donovan Mitchell
14. Jayson Tatum
15. Russell Westbrook

Imagine stat-padding when your team is 15 points down, a time when your points are most needed. There's nothing I won't hear on this thread So what will it be called when your team is 20 points up?

Lmaoooo Bronsexuals will defend their man to the hilt. Your man scored 62% of his points with his team down 15points or more and that's not padding

Like a QB throwing 30 TD passes but 20 of them came with his team down 3 or more TDs. Is that effective?

These LeBron haters are delusional. Shameless, and they don't try to hide it. We hear how Skip regular calls LeBron a frontrunner, rightfully claiming that points don't mean anything if your team has a huge lead. But here we are in this thread and someone's trying to convince me that points don't mean anything if you're trailing by 15

Man, I thought I had seen it all. Folks are trying to get even in the game and the points are stat-padding? Man, go ahead and fool yourself, you're on your own. I can't help you.

The only reason I didn't go to Lekki today was because of traffic back to Ikeja. Do I feel like a coward for staying at home? Yes.

Y'all should stay safe out there.

A40:
Special delivery.

I've been seeing some context free propaganda so we have to come and balance the equation

35th

Lol....so no honourable mentions for MJ?

SmooshCHN:
The only reason I didn't go to Lekki today was because of traffic back to Ikeja. Do I feel like a coward for staying at home? Yes.

Y'all should stay safe out there.

Being a coward that's alive is better than being dead.

A40:
Special delivery.

I've been seeing some context free propaganda so we have to come and balance the equation

35th

lol. Maybe you should include all the role players James played with.

Cinacci124:



Lol....so no honourable mentions for MJ?

LeBron had almost triple the number of honorable mentions MJ had, when we are talking of support cast for their respective title contending seasons it's not even close

steady986:
These LeBron haters are delusional. Shameless, and they don't try to hide it. We hear how Skip regular calls LeBron a frontrunner, rightfully claiming that points don't mean anything if your team has a huge lead. But here we are in this thread and someone's trying to convince me that points don't mean anything if you're trailing by 15

Man, I thought I had seen it all. Folks are trying to get even in the game and the points are stat-padding? Man, go ahead and fool yourself, you're on your own. I can't help you.

I hope you have finally gotten small ability to read so you don't goof 40 times while addressing what I actually say

It's a pity you are generally clueless on anything besides LeNomad knob polishing. There is a reason people take stock of these types of stats

If you're scoring 62% of your points in 3 straight losses with your team down by 15 points or more then that is statpadding and no responsible analyst will posit that LeNomad was effective and had a good series.

Teams with large leads typically don't play with the same intensity and when the bulk of your points come in those circumstances then it should be obvious they will not hold the same weight. But the mugu pseudo analyst will not grasp such basic concept

SmooshCHN:
The only reason I didn't go to Lekki today was because of traffic back to Ikeja. Do I feel like a coward for staying at home? Yes.

Y'all should stay safe out there.

Omo. I told everyone I knew after seeing what happened in Orile to stay in for the curfew especially for day 1 because anybody they caught that first day go too suffer. Even I didn't anticipate the murderous plans this government had

A40:
Omo. I told everyone I knew after seeing what happened in Orile to stay in for the curfew especially for day 1 because anybody they caught that first day go too suffer. Even I didn't anticipate the murderous plans this government had

omo he hot o, and I been they contemplate make I stay Lagos for one more week. Thank God say I japa. See the killing yesterday, I no believe am at all.