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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 8:07pm On Nov 19, 2020
Emusan:


So they later admit that the great crowd is actually in heaven and not only 144,000 will be in heaven....

See confusion everywhere!

The question now is, does this crowd also become spirit beings or just flesh and bones

Much wahala for human tuned spirit being believer.


That was their former BELIEVE in the days of "BIBLE STUDENTS"

Then they believe both 144,000 and Great crowd go to HEAVEN. the difference been 144,000 sit on thrones while the great crowd will stand before the throne in heaven.

Another issue here is how they easily decide who sit and who don't with no scriptural support Just like they say there are two hopes for Christians with no scriptural support.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 8:27pm On Nov 19, 2020
achorladey:



That was their former BELIEVE in the days of "BIBLE STUDENTS"

Then they believe both 144,000 and Great crowd go to HEAVEN. the difference been 144,000 sit on thrones while the great crowd will stand before the throne in heaven.

Another issue here is how they easily decide who sit and who don't with no scriptural support Just like they say there are [b]two hopes for Christians with no scriptural support[/b].

Matthew 5:3,5, Rev 14:1-3 & 21:3-5. 2 Peter 3:13 the matter wey Jesus Christ teach ,(wey dey inside him copy of the Bible ) Snake man say na JWs decide am.


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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:18pm On Nov 19, 2020
Emusan:

Just as you and your brothers are furious all over the thread.
Lemme separate your statement and to show you the nonsense you just spew.
Why do you always use the highlighted?
I respect your beliefs and i will never tell you it's nonsense, because each person have a right to believe whatever pleases him/her, i can only hold onto mine and look forward to associating with those who share the same view! smiley


Where did the scripture say Adam was God's FIRST BORN?
Well Adam was the first human and the Bible says Adam is God's son, therefore Adam is God's first born son in the flesh. The scriptures explained that Jesus is the first creature so he's God's first born son in the spirit! undecided



JWs philononsense.
This is where you spew that thrash
It's like you're used to it but is it all religious groups that's spewing nonsense or you can present a group whose teaching is OK to you?
I know that there is no two groups teaching the same thing yet separated as denominations! undecided


If the people who will RULE FROM HEAVEN are HUMANS then by becoming a SPIRIT BEING doesn't make them HUMAN AGAIN...
is it HUMAN that will rule as kings OR spirit being?
According to God's word they were born here on earth as humans but they were transformed into spirits, so they may have the same likeness of angels but they will still have human feelings, that's what will quantify them as worthy Kings over us!


John 1:12-13 says once you believe in Jesus Christ and even in His name you are rebirth from God.
Do you believe?
Adam was God's son and i'm one of his descendants so i'm already qualified to be a son of God, what distance me from my Grandfather (God) is the sin brought upon me by my ancestor (Adam), now God has forgiven me through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. So the broken chord has been mended again.
Of course i believe in God's word, it doesn't say i must become a spirit being before i can be God's son after all Adam my ancestor wasn't a spirit when God called him "SON"



Where do you read it from the scripture that people will become SPIRIT BEINGS?
On what basis will some inherit earth and others dont when we all have ONE HOPE IN CHRIST?

Jesus said those going to heaven with him will not marry since only masculine and feminine (flesh) do this, he added saying "they will become like angels (spirits)" {Luke 20:34-36} so it's evident that they will be transformed into spirits before they can go to heaven! 1Corinthians 15:50 compared to 1Thessalonians 4:16 compared to
Those going to heaven will become our rulers while we are their subjects, we will all live forever after Satan's destruction, that's the one hope God promised us all! John 3:16



You're not the one who will tell me that.
So you agree we MAKE DISCIPLES FOR OUR GOD....I thought only your organization makes disciples.
You mean OUR God?
Of course you can make disciples but unlike my own organization the disciples you're going to make can never be ORGANIZED because there is no room for orderliness when you can't present those taking the lead and those under their supervision! undecided
When i say "God bless you" you have the right to claim it or reject it Sir, you and i aren't worshipers of the same God, that's why i never mention the name of my own God, if you want his blessings then you must submit to the same rules as millions of his worshipers do! smiley

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by achorladey: 9:37pm On Nov 19, 2020
Janosky:


Matthew 5:3,5, Rev 14:1-3 & 21:3-5. 2 Peter 3:13 the matter wey Jesus Christ teach ,(wey dey inside him copy of the Bible ) Snake man say na JWs decide am.


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You can go and insert these scriptures in the image posted earlier to see where it FITS. grin grin

After that comeback and show me in all the scriptures up there where it said there are TWO HOPES for Christians


To the Matthew 5:5 you didn't bother to respond to the previous post about that grin grin grin.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 10:09pm On Nov 19, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Why do you always use the highlighted?
I respect your beliefs and i will never tell you it's nonsense, because each person have a right to believe whatever pleases him/her, i can only hold onto mine and look forward to associating with those who share the same view! smiley

see painment, your cry cry just started.

So you now believe people have right to what they belief. I thought Jws are the only one with right...

Well Adam was the first human and the Bible says Adam is God's son, therefore Adam is God's first born son in the flesh. The scriptures explained that Jesus is the first creature so he's God's first born son in the spirit! undecided

You can see how you're reinforcing my claim of NONSENSE.

What I asked you is to provide where scripture says Adam is the FIRST BORN SON But see how you're just perambulating.

And the scripture says that ALL BELIEVERS are ALL GOD'S SON through rebirth of God.

It's like you're used to it but is it all religious groups that's spewing nonsense or you can present a group whose teaching is OK to you?
I know that there is no two groups teaching the same thing yet separated as denominations! undecided

Just as you use to yours!

YOU spewing nonsense!
Leave any religious group out of it. If you know the group that spew nonsense like yours, you can join them.

According to God's word they were born here on earth as humans but they were transformed into spirits, so they may have the same likeness of angels but they will still have human feelings, that's what will quantify them as worthy Kings over us!

Can you provide where God's word says people are TRANSFORMED INTO SPIRITS?

See something cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy spirit having HUMAN FEELINGS

Don't worry you'll still confess openly.

Adam was God's son and i'm one of his descendants so i'm already qualified to be a son of God, what distance me from my Grandfather (God) is the sin brought upon me by my ancestor (Adam), now God has forgiven me through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus. So the broken chord has been mended again.
Of course i believe in God's word, it doesn't say i must become a spirit being before i can be God's son after all Adam my ancestor wasn't a spirit when God called him "SON"

My question isn't on God's WORD?
Here is my post again.

John 1:12-13 says once you believe in Jesus Christ and even in His name you are rebirth from God.

Do you believe in Jesus Christ even on His name?

Jesus said those going to heaven with him will not marry since only masculine and feminine (flesh) do this, he added saying "they will become like angels (spirits)" {Luke 20:34-36} so it's evident that they will be transformed into spirits before they can go to heaven! 1Corinthians 15:50 compared to 1Thessalonians 4:16 compared to
Those going to heaven will become our rulers while we are their subjects, we will all live forever after Satan's destruction, that's the one hope God promised us all! John 3:16

Still the same nonsense!

Stop lying against Christ, Jesus didn't say THOSE GOING TO HEAVEN WITH HIM won't marry, that's the brainwashing watchtower implanted in your dull skull.

Jesus was ADDRESSING GENERAL RESURRECTION, this stems from the question the people asked Jesus.

Firstly, the people were talking about those WHO HAVE DIED EVEN BEFORE CHRIST CAME TO EARTH.

Secondly, the question was "AT RESURRECTION, whose wife will she be?"

Lastly, Jesus' answer was directly on the question

34 The people in this world get married. 35 But in the future world no one who is worthy to rise from death will either marry 36 or die. They will be like the angels and will be God’s children, because they have been raised to life.[/b] Luke 20:34-35 CEV

1. The PEOPLE in this world
2. but IN the FUTURE WORLD
3. Who is worthy to RISE FROM DEATH will neither marry or die.
4. Will be God's children (at least you agreed that you're God's son)

Tell me, is this about specific people or people in general?

Of course you can make disciples but unlike my own organization the disciples you're going to make can never be ORGANIZED because there is no room for orderliness when you can't present those taking the lead and those under their supervision! undecided

Leave organized alone, you can't deceive me with fake Hall smile that you people give at every meetings when the same organized group can't allow their children to marry.

When i say "God bless you" you have the right to claim it or reject it Sir, you and i aren't worshipers of the same God, that's why i never mention the name of my own God, if you want his blessings then you must submit to the same rules as millions of his worshipers do! smiley

I must know the God who wants to bless me, or I don't have right to know?

So your own God can't bless me, THEN WHICH GOD DO YOU CALL ON TO BLESS ME

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:14pm On Nov 19, 2020
ARGUMENTATIVE Emusan! cheesy
My God differs from yours, that is what i'll continue to ring in your ears, sebi na me e dey pain no wahala! cheesy



Emusan:


see painment, your cry cry just started.

So you now believe people have right to what they belief. I thought Jws are the only one with right...



You can see how you're reinforcing my claim of NONSENSE.

What I asked you is to provide where scripture says Adam is the FIRST BORN SON But see how you're just perambulating.

And the scripture says that ALL BELIEVERS are ALL GOD'S SON through rebirth of God.



Just as you use to yours!

YOU spewing nonsense!
Leave any religious group out of it. If you know the group that spew nonsense like yours, you can join them.



Can you provide where God's word says people are TRANSFORMED INTO SPIRITS?

See something cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy spirit having HUMAN FEELINGS

Don't worry you'll still confess openly.



My question isn't on God's WORD?
Here is my post again.

John 1:12-13 says once you believe in Jesus Christ and even in His name you are rebirth from God.

Do you believe in Jesus Christ even on His name?



Still the same nonsense!

Stop lying against Christ, Jesus didn't say THOSE GOING TO HEAVEN WITH HIM won't marry, that's the brainwashing watchtower implanted in your dull skull.

Jesus was ADDRESSING GENERAL RESURRECTION, this stems from the question the people asked Jesus.

Firstly, the people were talking about those WHO HAVE DIED EVEN BEFORE CHRIST CAME TO EARTH.

Secondly, the question was "AT RESURRECTION, whose wife will she be?"

Lastly, Jesus' answer was directly on the question

34 The people in this world get married. 35 But in the future world no one who is worthy to rise from death will either marry 36 or die. They will be like the angels and will be God’s children, because they have been raised to life.[/b] Luke 20:34-35 CEV

1. The PEOPLE in this world
2. but IN the FUTURE WORLD
3. Who is worthy to RISE FROM DEATH will neither marry or die.
4. Will be God's children (at least you agreed that you're God's son)

Tell me, is this about specific people or people in general?



Leave organized alone, you can't deceive me with fake Hall smile that you people give at every meetings when the same organized group can't allow their children to marry.



I must know the God who wants to bless me, or I don't have right to know?

So your own God can't bless me, THEN WHICH GOD DO YOU CALL ON TO BLESS ME
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 11:50pm On Nov 19, 2020
Barristter07:


Is it not written in your Bible that THE LIFE of EVERY FLESH is in the blood ?



Sometimes I wonder if you have any thinking ability . Those men addressed as Flesh and bones are Humans with Blood running in their flesh . Which proved that someone is addressed as Flesh and bones doesn't nullify the point that they are human with blood. You rope yourself here

Speaking about humans , The Bible call them " Sharers of FLESH and BLOOD "

" Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood —the Son also became flesh and blood. For only as a human being could he die " Hebrews 2:14 NLT

Since Jesus is human, he has blood !!!

grin I do not seek to nullify the claim that human beings are called flesh and blood but to establish the fact that humans are also called flesh and bones.

The same bible that call humans flesh and blood also called humans flesh and bones.



In all the references to flesh and bones non was used in respect to spirits.

So both flesh and blood, and flesh and bones are used to describe a human whether that human has blood or not is immaterial.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:08am On Nov 20, 2020
No one is forcing you to accept the teachings of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, just as every other groups go about to preach and none is forcing their beliefs on you the same is with JWs.
Yesterday when i was traveling through Ibadan, i had to pack and read all the signposts of Sat Guru Mararaji, this man is claiming that his new found faith is what all of us must accept.
Now that's his assertion, but i'm 100% sure that you will not spend all one minute, hour, day, weeks, months like this discussing with any of his members even though you should to win them over as you claim to be a Christian.
So if you don't agree with the teachings of JWs that's fine but arguing without a purpose makes no sense to any right thinking person walahi!
DappaD has presented what over 8.7 millions of JWs believe globally whether you agree or not that's what we believe, it's either you present what you believe and the group that's practicing it so that members of JWs (who are obsessed with group) can see a better performing group than theirs or you move on.
Truthfully your argument without a purpose makes you all sound like the Jewish religious critics of the first century. Those people formed alliance against Jesus' group though they were not having the same beliefs yet they just felt like silencing Jesus' group whereas within themselves they find it hard to agree on the same line of thought {Act 23:1-9} one could just wonder if these religionists aren't in agreement, then why are they all coming together against the Christians? embarassed
Today all of you are putting up arguments on this forum are claiming Christians (followers of Christ) yet none of you can present his own group at least to show that you've got something better than JW group, rather what you're bent on is saying "don't claim you know better than others"
Well i was a Muslim and what attracted me to Christianity is the way Jesus preached and taught his group to make and maintain Peace.
Let me tell you that intellectually what i can sense in all of you is the same envy Cain had after noticing that God accepted Abel's worship. Remember Cain wasn't interested in the best form of worship but that God shouldn't have rejected his own. Even after God had told him what to do "turn to doing good" which means "learn from Abel what attracted me to him" Cain decided to kill his own brother!
So if you can't present your own group or a better performing group than JWs know today that i'm a living witness against all of you that out of all the religious groups in the world the one that has made me surrendered my weapons and never to pick it up again for any reason whatsoever is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, certainly they are the group Jesus formed to make peace reign on earth. Micah 4:1-3 compared to Matthew 26:52
You can continue with your arguments, but until you present a better performing group i will not say a word with you again! undecided





livingchrist:
grin I do not seek to nullify the claim that human beings are called flesh and blood but to establish the fact that humans are also called flesh and bones.
The same bible that call humans flesh and blood also called humans flesh and bones.
In all the references to flesh and bones non was used in respect to spirits.
So both flesh and blood, and flesh and bones are used to describe a human whether that human has blood or not is immaterial.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 7:30am On Nov 20, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
No one is forcing you to accept the teachings of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, just as every other groups go about to preach and none is forcing their beliefs on you the same is with JWs.
Yesterday when i was traveling through Ibadan, i had to pack and read all the signposts of Sat Guru Mararaji, this man is claiming that his new found faith is what all of us must accept.
Now that's his assertion, but i'm 100% sure that you will not spend all one minute, hour, day, weeks, months like this discussing with any of his members even though you should to win them over as you claim to be a Christian.
So if you don't agree with the teachings of JWs that's fine but arguing without a purpose makes no sense to any right thinking person walahi!
DappaD has presented what over 8.7 millions of JWs believe globally whether you agree or not that's what we believe, it's either you present what you believe and the group that's practicing it so that members of JWs (who are obsessed with group) can see a better performing group than theirs or you move on.
Truthfully your argument without a purpose makes you all sound like the Jewish religious critics of the first century. Those people formed alliance against Jesus' group though they were not having the same beliefs yet they just felt like silencing Jesus' group whereas within themselves they find it hard to agree on the same line of thought {Act 23:1-9} one could just wonder if these religionists aren't in agreement, then why are they all coming together against the Christians? embarassed
Today all of you are putting up arguments on this forum are claiming Christians (followers of Christ) yet none of you can present his own group at least to show that you've got something better than JW group, rather what you're bent on is saying "don't claim you know better than others"
Well i was a Muslim and what attracted me to Christianity is the way Jesus preached and taught his group to make and maintain Peace.
Let me tell you that intellectually what i can sense in all of you is the same envy Cain had after noticing that God accepted Abel's worship. Remember Cain wasn't interested in the best form of worship but that God shouldn't have rejected his own. Even after God had told him what to do "turn to doing good" which means "learn from Abel what attracted me to him" Cain decided to kill his own brother!
So if you can't present your own group or a better performing group than JWs know today that i'm a living witness against all of you that out of all the religious groups in the world the one that has made me surrendered my weapons and never to pick it up again for any reason whatsoever is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, certainly they are the group Jesus formed to make peace reign on earth. Micah 4:1-3 compared to Matthew 26:52
You can continue with your arguments, but until you present a better performing group i will not say a word with you again! undecided





You are the ones arguing with me, the watch tower article is filled with arguments against the Christian teachings, so channel whatever you wrote there to your gb.

no Christian hate Jehovah witness, we just hate the heresy you propagate.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:59am On Nov 20, 2020
It seems as if you don't understand what i'm saying, so i'll make it easy.

I (Mr Maximus) have read the Bible times over and i love to join the followers of Jesus so that i can continue getting timely spiritual food through them. I've read Jesus' own words saying "many false Christ and prophets will arise and mislead many" {Matthew 7:15; 24:11} so i want to avoid the fake by identifying the true followers of Christ and join them.
Please which group can you direct me to go and join in other not to be misled since Paul said i shouldn't forsake the gathering of true believers. Hebrew 10:24-25
The one and only group that came right to my house to preach and teach me what i know today are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, now you are saying what they taught me is heresy, so present a better performing group so i can locate them because i don't just want to join another fake group {Psalms 1:1} after all you've testified that there are fakes like JWs just as Jesus foretold, so i believe if you can identify the fake you should also be able to identify the original!
Or are you saying all other groups apart from JWs are true Christian groups? undecided


livingchrist:

You are the ones arguing with me, the watch tower article is filled with arguments against the Christian teachings, so channel whatever you wrote there to your gb.

no Christian hate Jehovah witness, we just hate the heresy you propagate.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 8:34am On Nov 20, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
ARGUMENTATIVE Maximumu ! cheesy
My God differs from yours, that is what i'll continue to ring in your ears, sebi na me e dey pain no wahala! cheesy

It's still paining him...

I know your god is different from mine because my God is the Only true God and don't lie. The great YAHWEH Himself who has no partiality.

And since you can't tell your god to bless me, I'm still curious to know THE GOD YOU CALLED UPON as "God bless you".

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:04am On Nov 20, 2020
Ever since i was born as a Muslim, i've never for once been visited by preachers in my own home until my early twenties. The one and only group that visited me in my house are these bag carriers and to be truthful with you, there doctrines sounds really really strange from all other religious beliefs i've heard all my life. But one thing i noticed about them is the orderliness and peace in their gatherings, they don't join military, they don't participate in politics, they don't believe in worldly material things, they don't pursue worldly carrier, they don't salute the flag, they don't marry more than one wife and so on.
So i began asking series of questions not because their teachings is evil but why are they so different? From the answers they gave me i got to know that they're following the pattern set by the early Christians.
Therefore if anyone wants to prove them wrong, it's not by arguing on words that can't be put to good use just as i've seen with JWs, but by presenting a better performing group than JWs! undecided
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:06am On Nov 20, 2020
The highlighted is enough to make you happy my friend, just forget about me after all i'm a worshiper of a different God so keep worshipping your God! smiley

Emusan:


It's still paining him...

I know your god is different from mine because my God is the Only true God and don't lie. The great YAHWEH Himself who has no partiality.

And since you can't tell your god to bless me, I'm still curious to know THE GOD YOU CALLED UPON as "God bless you".
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 10:22am On Nov 20, 2020
livingchrist:
grin I do not seek to nullify the claim that human beings are called flesh and blood but to establish the fact that humans are also called flesh and bones.

The same bible that call humans flesh and blood also called humans flesh and bones.



In all the references to flesh and bones non was used in respect to spirits.

So both flesh and blood, and flesh and bones are used to describe a human whether that human has blood or not is immaterial.

The same people the Bible called Flesh and bones have blood. And now that you know that humans are Sharers of flesh and blood. It means Jesus is human =Jesus has blood in heaven .

Flesh and blood Now inherit Kingdom of God ?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 10:25am On Nov 20, 2020
Emusan:


Says the deluded JWs who say the unbelievers have the Spirit of God in them yet going from house to house to preach to the same unbelievers who already have the Spirit of God.

See how he used style boycot my post....

You must tell us where Holy Spirit get the sperm to fertilize Mary's womb on this thread, since you believe Holy Spirit slept with Mary!

Clown!

grin grin grin Unbelievers don't have spirit of God but the Spirit gives life to their mortal bodies.? By now you should keep shut on this Romans 8:11 , it doesn't help your case.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 10:26am On Nov 20, 2020
Emusan:


It's still paining him...

I know your god is different from mine because my God is the Only true God and don't lie. The great YAHWEH Himself who has no partiality.

And since you can't tell your god to bless me, I'm still curious to know THE GOD YOU CALLED UPON as "God bless you".

Bros, your 3 gods is not the one true God, Yahweh Himself.

You don't know Yahweh or His Servant, Jesus Christ.
John 20:17, argue with Jesus.


Yahweh Himself is NOT your 3 persons gods themselves.

STOP DECEIVING yourself.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 10:33am On Nov 20, 2020
Emusan:


was the same Greek word used in Rev 21:3 used for Jesus in heaven now?

No . 1 Timothy 2:5,6 refer to his past in human flesh and blood. It says " Gave "

Jesus is a life giving SPIRIT. Not an human anymore


Yet the word translated as elders has never used for SPIRIT BEINGS...

Liar...the word is only used for MAN....

The Elders nullify your claim. They are Spirits not humans, yet called Elders, which proved the word was applied to even spirit beings . If they are humans , provide where they are called one ?



To think that a sane person can boldly say this is for people with heavenly hope is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read here.

Your lying mouth doesn't even have shame again.

You are all, in fact, sons of God through your faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female, for you ARE ALL ONE in union with Christ Jesus."

Look at the scripture you quoted and see how it actually put your lying mouth into shame.

Despite the fact that these verses are talking about ALL BELIEVERS, it's clear from it that, it's not ABOUT RESURRECTION but your deluded mind has misinterpreted and sneak in resurrection into it.
No single shame

Do you saw the Highlighted Mr Gender in Heaven?

This clearly isn't human Ressurection of Male and Females , but spirit beings.
Emusan debunked




You See the @color, oh sorry I forgot you're blind.

Jesus will change OUR mortal bodies to be conformed with His glorious body NOT to turn anybody into SPIRIT BEING.

1 Corinthians 15:38 is there to cure your delusion.

Change means to REPLACE .

The point of emphasis is " conform to his glorious body " , if what appeared to Thomas is what your deluded head call glorious body, it simply means Ressurected ones will also retain wounds, accident scars , Fire burns, hunchbacks.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 10:38am On Nov 20, 2020
livingchrist:
grin I do not seek to nullify the claim that human beings are called flesh and blood but to establish the fact that humans are also called flesh and bones.

The same bible that call humans flesh and blood also called humans flesh and bones.



In all the references to flesh and bones non was used in respect to spirits.

So both flesh and blood, and flesh and bones are used to describe a human whether that human has blood or not is immaterial
.

Mr LIENUS the Second cheesy grin

Luke 24:4-5,22-23
While they were perplexed about this, suddenly two men in dazzling clothes stood beside them. 5 The women were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen.
22 Moreover, some women of our group astounded us. They were at the tomb early this morning, 23 and when they did not find his body there, they came back and told us that they had indeed seen a vision of angels who said that he was alive.

The two angels, spirits called men are what ?
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 10:56am On Nov 20, 2020
Janosky:

Bros, the words you speak, have you ever held it in your arms ?
cheesy cheesy
Lol. Jesus be like - "Guys, shey you know I have 2 eyes?" When Barrister said Jesus was telling his disciples that his words are invisible grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:20am On Nov 20, 2020
Barristter07:


The snake man is an hopeless cause , Even if Blabbermouth said Adam has no blood, he is correct as long as it's against the Witnesses.
[img]https://media1./images/a53be6cc904e63941709e5f7eae8f4e1/tenor.gif?itemid=3467089[/img]

Hahahahahahaha, hahahahahahaha, you've gone into hiding.
I read the study note of your org on John 6:63, LWKMD.

See how you disgraced yourself for the second time.
Jesus: The words that I speak unto you, the words are spirit

Barrister's Jesus: My words are invisible grin grin grin grin grin grin

Lol. You want to rant about how you never meant that shey?
If you get liver grin ,I repeat, if you get liver grin ,one last time - if you get liver grin, tell what Jesus meant by - the words are spirit.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:29am On Nov 20, 2020
Blabbermouth:

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Hahahahahahaha, hahahahahahaha, you've gone into hiding.
I read the study note of your org on John 6:63, LWKMD.

See how you disgraced yourself for the second time.
Jesus: The words that I speak unto you, the words are spirit

Barrister's Jesus: My words are invisible grin grin grin grin grin grin

Lol. You want to rant about how you never meant that shey?
If you get liver grin ,I repeat, if you get liver grin ,one last time - if you get liver grin, tell what Jesus meant by - the words are spirit.

If you only you can tell me the words are material and visible , how much more you would have made sense ? But till this moment you cant. Shame


Slave of God's nature ? No scripture, lying mouth of blabbermouth

Is spirit means Jesus is a spiritual man ,Those called Spiritual man have flesh and blood, do you agree ? E went blank

Adam doesn't have blood ... Blabbermouth delusion grandeur

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 11:41am On Nov 20, 2020
Barristter07:


If you only you can tell me the words are material and visible , how much more you would have made sense ? But till this moment you cant. Shame


Slave of God's nature ? No scripture, lying mouth of blabbermouth

Is spirit means Jesus is a spiritual man ,Those called Spiritual man have flesh and blood, do you agree ? E went blank

Adam doesn't have blood ... Blabbermouth delusion grandeur
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All the above painment does not answer my question.
1. I didn't fight you that words are visible. I don't know why you are so crazy about wanting me to pick up an argument there. Diversion technique.

2.Nature there is to Mean Who GOD IS. I.e Holy, righteous and the likes.
II. It's an exegesis bro, so why the painment?

3. Just as "is spirit" does not make words A spirit or many spirits

4. I never saw where you ask me if the spiritual man has flesh and blood.

5. You still haven't given any scriptural proof to show that Adam has blood before the fall. That's the point there, so stop shadowboxing.

Now my dear barrister, man up and tell, "the words are spirit" what did Jesus mean?

PS: Let us engage 1,000 times, you will never be able to gainsay. It's not about me or about you, it's about who wields the truth. Unfortunately, I'm the one.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:49am On Nov 20, 2020
Intelligent persons can sense what is happening nah! undecided
Over twenty commentators have participated so far in this discussion, almost seven are united in faith and never hesitate to make known the name of their group, and they've defended their faith with one voice while the rest are just asking questions purposelessly without confidence to mention the name of their group. The whole world know that there are over 41,000 different religious groups claiming Christians having contracting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
So if they're not ashamed to hide their faces honest hearted individuals can sense what is happening.
I remembered two friends of mine fought in school back in the eighties, when asked "who beat the other?" One keep saying "it was a draw" while the other said "I beat him like a boy" surely the truth has been revealed! undecided
If none of them can mention the name of their group yet they're claiming worshipers of the God whose worshipers have always been well organized, surely the truth has spoken itself! undecided




Janosky:

Bros, your 3 gods is not the one true God, Yahweh Himself.
You don't know Yahweh or His Servant, Jesus Christ.
John 20:17, argue with Jesus.
Yahweh Himself is NOT your 3 persons gods themselves.
STOP DECEIVING yourself.

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:51am On Nov 20, 2020
Blabbermouth:

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All the above painment does not answer my question.
1. I didn't fight you that words are visible. I don't know why you are so crazy about wanting me to pick up an argument there. Diversion technique.

2.Nature there is to Mean Who GOD IS. I.e Holy, righteous and the likes.
II. It's an exegesis bro, so why the painment?

3. Just as "is spirit" does not make words A spirit or many spirits

All usage of the word Spirit carries invisibility and immateriality .



4. I never saw where you ask me if the spiritual man has flesh and blood.

The people Paul called Spiritual men don't have blood ? You are silly


5. You still haven't given any scriptural proof to show that Adam has blood before the fall. That's the point there, so stop shadowboxing.


Adam didn't have blood, But the Life of the Flesh is in the blood ? Adam must be a dead man before the Fall . Do you think at all ? grin


Now my dear barrister, man up and tell, "the words are spirit" what did Jesus mean?

Coming from someone who said Is spirit means Spiritual man . Guy, You are a disgrace

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 11:52am On Nov 20, 2020
Blabbermouth ' Adam didn't have blood before the fall '

Ahhhh , some people no just get any sense. It's clear that this guy is a disgrace to this thread

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:08pm On Nov 20, 2020
Barristter07:

All usage of the word Spirit carries invisibility and immateriality.
Oh no, Lord WHY? I FREAKING HATE COWARDS!
Ogbeni Barristter07, don't be a wussy, I don't need all these your excessive jagbajantis.
Man up and tell - the words are spirit. What did Jesus mean? Shikena.

The people Paul called Spiritual men don't have blood ? You are silly
I will teach you We'll discuss about the Spiritual man when we've ironed what's on floor.

Adam didn't have blood, But the Life of the Flesh is in the blood ? Adam must be a dead man before the Fall . Do you think at all ? grin
Let me give you a quick one [I don't want you to escape as i've seen you are trying all your best to grin grin ]

When you bore the image of Adam, you didn't bear the image of Adam before the fall, you bore that of Adam after the fall. Otherwise, there actually would be no need for salvation.

I don't believe in predestination, neither do you. Predestination proposes that Adam was made by His creator - with that mindset of - "Okay, after you have fallen [which I very much expect], this is how everything in your system will carry out their operation]"

The essence of the above is that - we cannot speak particularly of so many things about Adam.
Was Adam with a kidney before the fall? For what purpose?
Was Adam with an anus before the fall? For what purpose? To excrete? Goddamn no!
Can Adam's skin be pierced by anything in the garden? If he can, I hope we both know the implication of all this.

So bro, the Adam the bible presents us [when you compare with the other Adam] is the Adam after his fall. Before the fall, we cannot speak particularly of so many things.

Coming from someone who said Is spirit means Spiritual man . Guy, You are a disgrace
Which creature was born of the spirit? Man!

By the way, the most foolish thing is to think of becoming an angel.

Man is God's favorite. If God is to do with just one creature, he will forsake animals, forsake the bodies of the heavenlies, forsake even angels and stick with man. [That is by the way]


Barristter, I do not wish you reply any of what I said above - that's an edification for readers by.
The koko here is - Man up and tell, the words are spirit. What did Jesus mean?

See guy, it's not so hard to say - Blabbermouth, I won't say [truthfully though] what that part actually meant. Why? Because I know what effect it will have on this ongoing discussion.
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Barristter07: 12:14pm On Nov 20, 2020
Blabbermouth:

Oh no, Lord WHY? I FREAKING HATE COWARDS!
Ogbeni Barristter07, don't be a wussy, I don't need all these your excessive jagbajantis.
Man up and tell - the words are spirit. What did Jesus mean? Shikena.

I will teach you We'll discuss about the Spiritual man when we've ironed what's on floor.

Let me give you a quick one [I don't want you to escape as i've seen you are trying all your best to grin grin ]

When you bore the image of Adam, you didn't bear the image of Adam before the fall, you bore that of Adam after the fall. Otherwise, there actually would be no need for salvation.

I don't believe in predestination, neither do you. Predestination proposes that Adam was made by His creator - with that mindset of - "Okay, after you have fallen [which I very much expect], this is how everything in your system will carry out their operation]"

The essence of the above is that - we cannot speak particularly of so many things about Adam.
Was Adam with a kidney before the fall? For what purpose?
Was Adam with an anus before the fall? For what purpose? To excrete? Goddamn no!
Can Adam's skin be pierced by anything in the garden? If he can, I hope we both know the implication of all this.

So bro, the Adam the bible presents us [when you compare with the other Adam] is the Adam after his fall. Before the fall, we cannot speak particularly of so many things.


Which creature was born of the spirit? Man!


By the way, the most foolish thing is to think of becoming an angel.

Man is God's favorite. If God is to do with just one creature, he will forsake animals, forsake the bodies of the heavenlies, forsake even angels and stick with man. [That is by the way]


Barristter, I do not wish you reply any of what I said above - that's an edification for readers by.
The koko here is - Man up and tell, the words are spirit. What did Jesus mean?

See guy, it's not so hard to say - Blabbermouth, I won't say [truthfully though] what that part actually meant. Why? Because I know what effect it will have on this ongoing discussion.

Useless shalaye grin the life of the flesh is in the blood . You can eat your lies . Jesus came in the likeness of Adam. Yet has blood, So Jesus too is a fallen man ? I repeat, you don't have any sense


Concerning the highlighted, Is that what John 3:6 tell you ?

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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:17pm On Nov 20, 2020
Barristter07:


Useless shalaye grin the life of the flesh is in the blood . You can eat your lies . Jesus came in the likeness of Adam. Yet has blood, So Jesus too is a fallen man ? I repeat, you don't have any sense


Concerning the highlighted, Is that what John 3:6 tell you ?

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I've still not seen your answer.
Baba wants to divert.

The words are spirit. What did Jesus mean?
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:23pm On Nov 20, 2020
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I've still not seen your answer.
Baba wants to divert.

The words are spirit. What did Jesus mean?
Cc: Jozzy4 and DappaD, single standard crooner. Come and help your brother he just bought another market.
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:37pm On Nov 20, 2020
MaxInDHouse:

God spoke to Moses while Moses speaks to the Israelites, of course Moses as an imperfect man made mistakes but he remains the mediator of the covenant between God and the Israelites! Exodus 33:11; Numbers 12:8
Moses as an imperfect man made mistakes - exactly!
Why stick with an imperfect men when you can stick with a perfect Lord?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! "I'm the way the truth and the life" doesn't mean you should talk to Jesus in prayer!
It simply means "if you want to know how you can approach my father (God), i'll teach you because he's my father and i'm his favourite son"
I think you should get this now. Teaching is the not exactly the same as Mediating.

That's the difference between JWs and all other religions. Jehovah's Witnesses don't pray to Jesus, we make our supplications known directly to JEHOVAH. But we must do so following all the guidelines or counseling from Jesus
What does - asking in my name mean?
By the way, I don't supplicate to Jesus.

Jesus said "whatever you bind or loose on earth will happen just so in heaven" {Matthew 16:19} the Apostles forgot what Jesus taught them saying "you will always have the poor with you" {Mark 14:7} they wanted to make all members equal materially speaking by selling what they had and sharing it equally {Act 4:32-35} that was a wrong step! Jesus didn't step in to correct them not until the congregation lost a couple, that was the end of that arrangement!
Wrong! Totally wrong! Absolutely wrong!
At the end, the arrangement wasn't stopped, no! There was the reverential fear to God among the believers, and that's the purpose actually.
Lol. That's funny sir. Jesus wasn't saying some of you will remain poor. C'mon, where did that one come from?

But take not that it was God's holy spirit that killed Ananiah and Saphirras for lying when they supposed to act in line with what the whole assembly agreed upon. So it's wrong to worship where you are not 100% in compliance with the teachings, it's better find another group!
Just remove these erroneous mediators and submit everything to Christ, what you said above would have been spot on.
Latter day saints are in compliance of teaching.
Catholics are in compliance of teaching.
One line of thought is not actually bad on its own, the fact is - it could actually be one line of false thoughts.

Of course that's what it means! When you're singling a teacher out as the best or your favorite amongst the rest it's tantamount to worship. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't know where the worshipers of God gathers! Matthew 24:27-28
You are guilty of this. Y'all single out your GB and say - they are the only one we will listen to. This is tantamount to worship.
What shall I say then, Maximus is worshipping a GB? Say God forbid!

Jesus said there will be false teachers {Matthew 24:11} so we must distinguish the true teachers from false otherwise what you're saying is "don't mind Jesus, you can worship anywhere that Jesus' name is mentioned" of course you should know better than that! Matthew 7:21-23
Thanks and God bless you! smiley
False teachers are where they belong.
You still don't get it - I'm saying, don't mind your pastors, don't worship anywhere except with Christ.

That's the movement of the apostles, declaring a new king and a new kingdom. No division whatsoever. One God, One Lord, One faith, One baptism, and definitely, One hope. Hahahahahahaha
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:53pm On Nov 20, 2020
Mediatorship is all about passing timely information from one party to another so mediators must come in anytime when teaching comes up Sir!





Blabbermouth:

Moses as an imperfect man made mistakes - exactly!
Why stick with an imperfect men when you can stick with a perfect Lord?

I think you should get this now. Teaching is the not exactly the same as Mediating.

What does - asking in my name mean?
By the way, I don't supplicate to Jesus.

Wrong! Totally wrong! Absolutely wrong!
At the end, the arrangement wasn't stopped, no! There was the reverential fear to God among the believers, and that's the purpose actually.
Lol. That's funny sir. Jesus wasn't saying some of you will remain poor. C'mon, where did that one come from?

Just remove these erroneous mediators and submit everything to Christ, what you said above would have been spot on.
Latter day saints are in compliance of teaching.
Catholics are in compliance of teaching.
One line of thought is not actually bad on its own, the fact is - it could actually be one line of false thoughts.

You are guilty of this. Y'all single out your GB and say - they are the only one we will listen to. This is tantamount to worship.
What shall I say then, Maximus is worshipping a GB? Say God forbid!

False teachers are where they belong.
You still don't get it - I'm saying, don't mind your pastors, don't worship anywhere except with Christ.

That's the movement of the apostles, declaring a new king and a new kingdom. No division whatsoever. One God, One Lord, One faith, One baptism, and definitely, One hope. Hahahahahahaha
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 2:20pm On Nov 20, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Mediatorship is all about passing timely information from one party to another so mediators must come in anytime when teaching comes up Sir!
Teaching is not exactly mediating.

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