hotdealz:
I have been selling laptops on nairaland since 2016 and I always use stock photos on my ads. It is never to deceive anyone. It's just for the customer to know what the model looks like.

All the laptops elbreezy or anyone else has ever ordered from me, I always send stock photos. This is because, these laptops are in large quantities mostly from warehouses and other wholesalers. They are not laptops from offerup.

The 10 mini laptops he ordered in "CASE 2" were not mint. I never told him they were mint. The hp laptops he ordered, I never told him they were mint too. He lied. I know laptops I describe as mint. But the laptops were not dented or cracked.

Now, if the 10 mini laptops he ordered and waybilled himself were not mint and i always send stock photos plus there were crack issues which I clearly told him would be from the waybill company. No solution cos I won't take what I know I did not give.

I find it hard to believe he would place another order and claims non of this his people still check and all of a sudden, he's now talking about stock photos.

*He also lied that what I tagged "CASE 1" in my explanation doesn't exist. See photos proof.

I will also upload my response to certain questions asked by customers to proof that I don't lie in business and I don't ever try to scam or deceive anyone.








I don't tell lies in business.

Elbreezy:
Concerning the Case 1, our first transaction was for my friend. It was not for profit. You sent the laptop to Iwo in Osun state and there wasn't any complain. My friend got what he asked for. So you shouldn't even bring that up.

The main issue here is concerning the defective laptops that you sold to me under the guise of being in mint condition. You told me that the laptops were clean. Do you think that I'll buy such rough laptops if I had known about their conditions?

You lied to and you got caught. Even according to everything that you posted on this thread, you knew that the laptops aren't in good condition.

Please help us to judge the issue. I'm also a seller and I'll never lie to my customers. I don't send stock images and will always tell them about the condition of my products. This deals is affecting my reputation already. Please I need a refund.

hotdealz:
The main issue here are the crack and the dents. What I will not accept is you pinning that on me. I will never accept that. You waybilled these laptops yourself. You specifically asked for warranty and I told you I only warranty motherboard.

Working with you to sell them off would be easy as long as the boards are ok but they won't go for the right amount anymore in that state.

Ipsum:

All ye prisoners of war, rejoice!!! freedom has come at last. The thread is now freee. If you have any issue with anybody, type to your hearts desire then go to bed. Maybe by tommorow morning, those who have the time will say something or "moya look away".

"The public" is now the moderator..... Enjoy.

Elbreezy:

If you have been truthful from the start, I wouldn't have entered this mess. I'm not to going to work with you to clean your errors, that's your responsibility. All I want is a refund. Simple!!!

LeJeun3:





Go and beat him and collect your refund simple......

Did you look at the items your way billed??

Elbreezy:

What goes around comes around. Hotdealz lied and you know it. You may be one of his people, but fear God. This isn't not the first time that I'll be dealing with buyers in Lagos and I've never had any complain. If you blame the cracks on the dispatch, what about the scratches, dirty mouse pad and dents.
Can you supply poor products to your customers or buy bad products from a seller?

Elbreezy:

What goes around comes around. Hotdealz lied and you know it. You may be one of his people, but fear God. This isn't not the first time that I'll be dealing with buyers in Lagos and I've never had any complain. If you blame the cracks on the dispatch, what about the scratches, dirty mouse pad and dents.
Can you supply poor products to your customers or buy bad products from a seller?

hotdealz:
I never told you they were mint. But there were no dent or crack. You told me you needed 5 - 10 pcs. I sent just one pics. You can't tell me you thought that 5 - 10pcs are just that one pics I sent. I am very sure your buyer rejected those laptops because of the crack and dents. Which didn't come from me.

It's just like you are saying, as long as you feel a product is not as described, you are free to damage it and return it.

hotdealz:
I never told you they were mint. But there were no dent or crack. You told me you needed 5 - 10 pcs. I sent just one pics. You can't tell me you thought that 5 - 10pcs are just that one pics I sent. I am very sure your buyer rejected those laptops because of the crack and dents. Which didn't come from me.

It's just like you are saying, as long as you feel a product is not as described, you are free to damage it and return it.

D4donnn:


You are a remorseless thief and fraudster defend yourself all you like but heaven knows what you did karma , may not smack your head today but trust me one way or the other nature will always balance the odds , they there they ruin people business and sweat your own go soon reach

ikembz:
With the indications am seeing here..it seems the people at fault here, don't care or intend to profess a solution....
Forkdragnet playing the mute game/blind eye
Hotdealz well argue from morning to Night ..Baba no go gree accept say.. crack and dents wia not from him..

It's so sad that this thread bears dispute resolution,whereby ppl at fault here are just feeling less concerned.This shows that we just here to drop words..that's all... Issues and solutions can't​ be settled here I guess...No solution, just bants...upon bants...

ikembz:
With the indications am seeing here..it seems the people at fault here, don't care or intend to profess a solution....
Forkdragnet playing the mute game/blind eye
Hotdealz well argue from morning to Night ..Baba no go gree accept say.. crack and dents wia not from him..

It's so sad that this thread bears dispute resolution,whereby ppl at fault here are just feeling less concerned.This shows that we just here to drop words..that's all... Issues and solutions can't​ be settled here I guess...No solution, just bants...upon bants...

Zino1011:
Forkdragnet and hotdealz belong to same WhatsApp group with some of the bigwigs here that is why they have kept mute.Posterity will judge you all.

ForkDragnet:
bro, I didn’t keep mute, I’ve responded accordingly, and I told you on WhatsApp earlier to find the board and we’ll split the bill or your decision is to return the laptop and collect full refund?

hotdealz:
I never told you they were mint. But there were no dent or crack. You told me you needed 5 - 10 pcs. I sent just one pics. You can't tell me you thought that 5 - 10pcs are just that one pics I sent. I am very sure your buyer rejected those laptops because of the crack and dents. Which didn't come from me.

It's just like you are saying, as long as you feel a product is not as described, you are free to damage it and return it.

hotdealz:
I never told you they were mint. But there were no dent or crack. You told me you needed 5 - 10 pcs. I sent just one pics. You can't tell me you thought that 5 - 10pcs are just that one pics I sent. I am very sure your buyer rejected those laptops because of the crack and dents. Which didn't come from me.

It's just like you are saying, as long as you feel a product is not as described, you are free to damage it and return it.

ikembz:



This is my reason of u being mute..
I sent you a screenshot of a chat with someone in Computer Village that has connects to scrap guys and guys that sell boards.u read and didn't reply..I chatted u. . again..no reply...
So I presume,you went mute..and my best way to get your attention is to call you out here.

See below.
U not replying...
And the guy looking for that board...

I guess..I would need to send down the Laptop and get a full refund..That's the best

And me getting this refund.. a realistic Time frame should be stated... Please..

Thank you..

ForkDragnet:
bro, I didn’t keep mute, I’ve responded accordingly, and I told you on WhatsApp earlier to find the board and we’ll split the bill or your decision is to return the laptop and collect full refund?

FluxEmpire:
The real owner of the laptop was the cause of this issue... With what's been stated, only a technician would be able to decode that this is for parts because the main thing (the core /processor type) which should have been stated was not stated.

Where you made a mistake Ikembz was not asking for the core and if you asked, forkdragnet could probably say, those were the only info that the owner stated or he didn't say. If you hear that, that is a good indicator to know that something was wrong somewhere...

ikembz:



I asked him for the core...he stated core i5

ForkDragnet:
Full refund isn’t what I can do as the fault wasn’t from me either, because I stated exactly how device is.

FluxEmpire:
Wow!!! For the core to be known, then it means the board was fine...there's no way one would know the core if the board was bad since there are two ways to check; at BIOS setup and at Windows... This means the laptop was sold as working...

Something is not adding up. Well, I'm going round to check for it. Solution is what matters most.

FluxEmpire:
The real owner of the laptop was the cause of this issue... With what's been stated, only a technician would be able to decode that this is for parts because the main thing (the core /processor type) which should have been stated was not stated.

Where you made a mistake Ikembz was not asking for the core and if you asked, forkdragnet could probably say, those were the only info that the owner stated or he didn't say. If you hear that, that is a good indicator to know that something was wrong somewhere...

FluxEmpire:
Wow!!! For the core to be known, then it means the board was fine...there's no way one would know the core if the board was bad since there are two ways to check; at BIOS setup and at Windows... This means the laptop was sold as working...

Something is not adding up. Well, I'm going round to check for it. Solution is what matters most.

ikembz:



NOW .when I asked for the core.
He said the core i5..like he wasn't​ sure..and if he was sure.i guess in the advert...it shud have being stated.. it's so painful..I lost few of my Chats.. During the process of enquiries...The main reason I went for this laptop .was coz friend asked for this same Dell 5250 .and when I saw it..went for it and told him,I had one pre-ordered..he should wait.....and after a month+..it's a dead on Arrival Laptop I got. The guy was just disappointed. Ram inserted/HDD inserted...And it still didn't come on.. just showing only keyboard light...Brah.if the seller is saying I should return the laptop and still saying I won't get a full refund... how does that feel.. after wasting a month plus and this is how it all pans out.. I had sent u the pictures of the Laptop as u ask and model...I guess.,u ain't seen.it(Yhe board)too shey?