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Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by neupert(m): 2:59am On Dec 29, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzKdXdR34bc
in this viral video, daddy freeze has come out openly to say that saul conversation to paul isnt spiritual but rather political

Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkiee: 3:42am On Dec 29, 2020
The actual Youtube video for those who really want to know what freeze did say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ4HxASfxd4
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkie: 4:31am On Dec 29, 2020
Kobojunkiee:
The actual Youtube video for those who really want to know what freeze did say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ4HxASfxd4

Yes, all that "Spritual" nonsense spewed from pulpits across the world are nothing but Spiritual bullsheet..lies told by false teachers/prophets in order to deceive...steal, kill and destroy their fellow men in the name of God.

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Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by jchioma: 5:30am On Dec 29, 2020
How does this make him a better Christian? Stirring controversy in Christiandom is Antichrist.

This dude better come out for who he really is and what his problems are with Christianity. Not hiding under the cloak of being a Christian to cause others to stumble.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by otipoju(m): 5:32am On Dec 29, 2020
What is the big deal?

Paul is the Roman version of the Hebrew name Saul.
Just like Mitchel is the french version of Hebrew Mikha'el

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Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkie: 5:34am On Dec 29, 2020
kiss
jchioma:
How does this make him a better Christian? Stirring controversy in Christiandom is Antichrist.

This dude better come out for who he really is and what his problems are with Christianity. Not hiding under the cloak of being a Christian to cause others to stumble.
where in the Bible are you told that "stirring controversy in Christiandom" is antichrist? undecided

Do you at least know that the doctrines and traditions, all of them lies of men, taught by your pastors and preachers are instead ANTICHRIST in origin? undecided

This freeze guy is telling you the truth that is known to all who have eyes to read and a brain to reason with. Why attack him for voicing it? Paul was still named Saul till his death. His name change had nothing to do with God giving Him a new name or anything spiritual like that. Why do you find that hard to imbibe? undecided
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by HonKong: 5:37am On Dec 29, 2020
This one na bastard, i pity those that listen to him
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by AntiChristian: 7:21am On Dec 29, 2020
Sagenaija

How far with this video?

Paul wrote about 14 out of the 28 books of the New testament.

undecided lipsrsealed
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by jchioma: 11:55am On Dec 29, 2020
Kobojunkie:
kiss where in the Bible are you told that "stirring controversy in Christiandom" is antichrist? undecided

Do you at least know that the doctrines and traditions, all of them lies of men, taught by your pastors and preachers are instead ANTICHRIST in origin? undecided

This freeze guy is telling you the truth that is known to all who have eyes to read and a brain to reason with. Why attack him for voicing it? Paul was still named Saul till his death. His name change had nothing to do with God giving Him a new name or anything spiritual like that. Why do you find that hard to imbibe? undecided

What truth that tends to sow seed of discord in the Body of Christ? How does what he said edify the believers. You insinuated by your comments that what's written in the Bible is lies, so pray tell me what then is the truth?
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by sagenaija: 2:09pm On Dec 29, 2020
AntiChristian:
Sagenaija

How far with this video?

Paul wrote about 14 out of the 28 books of the New testament.
undecided lipsrsealed
The video mentioned a number of things.
Which one do you need clarification on?
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by harmargedon: 2:17pm On Dec 29, 2020
he's right, Paul was a spy for the Romans, he was sent to take over the movement. Imagine a Christian sent to destroy a Muslim community suddenly converted into a Muslim and the people that were with him did nothing to him.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Elizersalifu(f): 3:40pm On Dec 29, 2020
otipoju:
What is the big deal?

Paul is the Roman version of the Hebrew name Saul.
Just like Mitchel is the french version of Hebrew Mikha'el

Absolutely correct!
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by MuttleyLaff: 4:35pm On Dec 29, 2020
sagenaija:
The video mentioned a number of things.
Which one do you need clarification on?



MuttleyLaff:
The Quran in Surah 10:94, has the good sense to tell Muslims, if they are in doubt, to go ask "People of Book," that is, "People of Book," meaning believers.
Surah Yunus, [10:94]:
فَإِن كُنتَ فِي شَكٍّ مِّمَّا أَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ فَاسْأَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتَابَ مِن قَبْلِكَ لَقَدْ جَاءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ

He is dutifully following the advice of the Quran in Surah 10:94, lmso
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkie: 5:23pm On Dec 29, 2020
jchioma:

What truth that tends to sow seed of discord in the Body of Christ? How does what he said edify the believers. You insinuated by your comments that what's written in the Bible is lies, so pray tell me what then is the truth?
* Truth that tends to sow seed of discord in the Body of Christ? undecided

* Did Jesus Christ command you to only tell Truths that "Edify the believers" - since when did that become the criteria for telling the truth? undecided

* By telling you that doctrines and traditions of men are nothing but lies, I insinuate that what's written in the Bible is lies? undecided

Dude, I can only pray that one day, maybe soon, you, in fact, stop feeding on the lies that men feed you, and instead pick up that book to learn the truth of God from God Himself.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by petra1(m): 6:50pm On Dec 29, 2020
So whats the big deal
Saul had two names . He switched from one to the other. What's the big deal freeze
Why making issue out of nothing? Is that a message ?
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by MuttleyLaff: 7:38pm On Dec 29, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
luv/mijeje, you are worst than a zombie, you are an ignoranus and more.

Paul was born a Jew in the Roman city of Tarsus, hence him addressed as Saul of Tarsus. Saul was his Hebrew name and Paul his Roman name. Though he had dual citizenship, he still was proud of his Jewish heritage, evidence of this can be read in Philippians 3:5, so what are you on about huh?



petra1:
So whats the big deal
Saul had two names. He switched from one to the other. What's the big deal freeze
Why making issue out of nothing? Is that a message?
He was trying to message how faith have become needlessly politicised.

From my POV, Apostle Paul rightfully used politics, and used it, not for personal gain nor for direct or personal financial benefits, like how our local pastorpreneurs, sets up churches as business ventures taking advantages of government tax breaks, indiscriminate import duty waivers, other import tax exempts et cetera

Apostle Paul used politics good and so to get passage to preach the Gospel in the court of Caesar, in Rome, to preach to king Agrippa et cetera
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkie: 9:10pm On Dec 29, 2020
harmargedon:
he's right, Paul was a spy for the Romans, he was sent to take over the movement. Imagine a Christian sent to destroy a Muslim community suddenly converted into a Muslim and the people that were with him did nothing to him.
So, what reason did the Romans have to wish destruction on the movement at the time? undecided

Why would Paul, a Sadducee at the time, have been sent by the Romans and not the Jews -Recall that there was no live lost between the Jews and the Roman occupyers of the time. undecided
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by harmargedon: 9:47pm On Dec 29, 2020
Kobojunkie:
So, what reason did the Romans have to wish destruction on the movement at the time? undecided

Why would Paul, a Sadducee at the time, have been sent by the Romans and not the Jews -Recall that there was no live lost between the Jews and the Roman occupyers of the time. undecided
and who told you that Paul was a Jew. come on, read your Bible properly. he said himself that he was a Roman and not a Jew.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by harmargedon: 9:49pm On Dec 29, 2020
Kobojunkie:
So, what reason did the Romans have to wish destruction on the movement at the time? undecided

Why would Paul, a Sadducee at the time, have been sent by the Romans and not the Jews -Recall that there was no live lost between the Jews and the Roman occupyers of the time. undecided
and again who told you no life was lost. the Bible hid a lot of things especially trying to create a scene like there was peace between the Romans and the Jews, but history has it that it was all lies. it's like talking about world war 2 and not including the Germans. Make your research and you'll find out that the Jews were opressed at that time.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkiee: 10:07pm On Dec 29, 2020
harmargedon:
and who told you that Paul was a Jew. come on, read your Bible properly. he said himself that he was a Roman and not a Jew.
What evidence do you have to support the claim Paul was not a jew but a gentile? undecided
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkiee: 10:10pm On Dec 29, 2020
harmargedon:
and again who told you no life was lost. the Bible hid a lot of things especially trying to create a scene like there was peace between the Romans and the Jews, but history has it that it was all lies. it's like talking about world war 2 and not including the Germans. Make your research and you'll find out that the Jews were opressed at that time.
It was clear from even when Jesus Christ was alive that there was no real peace between the jews and the romans. So I am not certain what you are suggesting the Bible "hid" from you in that.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by harmargedon: 1:32am On Dec 30, 2020
Kobojunkiee:
What evidence do you have to support the claim Paul was not a jew but a gentile? undecided
Acts 22 vs 25 to 28.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by harmargedon: 1:36am On Dec 30, 2020
Kobojunkiee:
It was clear from even when Jesus Christ was alive that there was no real peace between the jews and the romans. So I am not certain what you are suggesting the Bible "hid" from you in that.
no it wasn't. it was like Pontius pilate didn't partake in Jesus death by washing his hands, Herod had to behead John the Baptist because of a woman and many more. we all know that before you could attain such position in the Roman army command you must be ruthless. the claim that pilate washed his hands were all false. The Bible made the Romans look innocent of every crime and made it more like the Jews killed Jesus.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkie: 1:36am On Dec 30, 2020
harmargedon:
Acts 22 vs 25 to 28.
That Paul was born a Roman citizen does not mean he was not in fact of Jewish birth, just the same as child born in the UK to Nigeria parents is still a Nigerian by blood.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by harmargedon: 1:38am On Dec 30, 2020
Kobojunkie:
That Paul was born a Roman citizen does not mean he was not in fact of Jewish birth, just the same as child born in the UK to Nigeria parents is still a Nigerian by blood.
now you've gotten the fact that he was a spy. 1 Corinthians 9 vs 20 to 22
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by harmargedon: 1:41am On Dec 30, 2020
Kobojunkie:
That Paul was born a Roman citizen does not mean he was not in fact of Jewish birth, just the same as child born in the UK to Nigeria parents is still a Nigerian by blood.
I just wanted you to read it for yourself, he was a man without an Identity, he was everything and everywhere. he hijacked the movement and preached a different version of Jesus. Remember that he didn't even know him or bothered to.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkie: 1:41am On Dec 30, 2020
harmargedon:
no it wasn't. it was like Pontius pilate didn't partake in Jesus death by washing his hands, Herod had to behead John the Baptist because of a woman and many more. we all know that before you could attain such position in the Roman army command you must be ruthless. the claim that pilate washed his hands were all false. The Bible made the Romans look innocent of every crime and made it more like the Jews killed Jesus.
Pontius Pilate did not partake in Jesus Death? undecided

I am afraid I dont understand what you are trying to say here. Yes, the Romans were ruthless but they were also known to be very diplomatic in their relationships with their subjects. So what has the death of John and pilate's washing of his hands to do with anything?/
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkie: 1:42am On Dec 30, 2020
harmargedon:
I just wanted you to read it for yourself, he was a man without an Identity, he was everything and everywhere. he hijacked the movement and preached a different version of Jesus. Remember that he didn't even know him or bothered to.
You are still not showing me evidence for your claim that Paul was a gentile and not a jew. I am still waiting to read any other evidence you may claim to have of this.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by harmargedon: 1:46am On Dec 30, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Pontius Pilate did not partake in Jesus Death? undecided

I am afraid I dont understand what you are trying to say here. Yes, the Romans were ruthless but they were also known to be very diplomatic in their relationships with their subjects. So what has the death of John and pilate's washing of his hands to do with anything?/
the Jews seeked a Messiah why? to save them from the Roman. Jesus preached God's kingdom on Earth and that's a threat to the Romans. Don't you think they'd want to eliminate him and everything relating to him. just for you to know, Jesus wasn't the first Messiah, there was someone before him. I wouldn't tell you his name, but I'll give you a heads start for your research. search for the Gabriel stone. and then you'll tell me what happened to him. so I'll know if you got the information right.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by harmargedon: 1:48am On Dec 30, 2020
Kobojunkie:
You are still not showing me evidence for your claim that Paul was a gentile and not a jew. I am still waiting to read any other evidence you may claim to have of this.
he said he was a Jew right, what are his parents name or brothers and sisters name.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkie: 1:49am On Dec 30, 2020
harmargedon:
the Jews seeked a Messiah why? to save them from the Roman. Jesus preached God's kingdom on Earth and that's a threat to the Romans. Don't you think they'd want to eliminate him and everything relating to him. just for you to know, Jesus wasn't the first Messiah, there was someone before him. I wouldn't tell you his name, but I'll give you a heads start for your research. search for the Gabriel stone. and then you'll tell me what happened to him. so I'll know if you got the information right.
I think you should focus a bit more on the point at hand rather than running all over the place with this.

Again, we are on your claim about Paul and the Romans..
Kobojunkie:
Pontius Pilate did not partake in Jesus Death? undecided

I am afraid I dont understand what you are trying to say here. Yes, the Romans were ruthless but they were also known to be very diplomatic in their relationships with their subjects. So what has the death of John and pilate's washing of his hands to do with anything?/
. Try to remain focused and get to the point here.
Re: Daddy Freeze " Saul Conversation To Paul Is Political Not Spiritual" by Kobojunkie: 1:52am On Dec 30, 2020
harmargedon:
he said he was a Jew right, what are his parents name or brothers and sisters name.
What in the word? undecided

You are the one here claiming Saul was not a Jew. Are you trying to suggest that because we do not have his parents names and the name of his siblings means he was indeed not a jew? undecided

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