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Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 11:23am On Jan 04, 2021
yungmin:


I am currently learning it. The modelling appears very fast. It uses almost revit structure. STAADpro is begining to take too much time for me to deliver.
is the modelling like prota structures?
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by yungmin: 7:05pm On Jan 04, 2021
hakeem4:
is the modelling like prota structures?

I've not seen prota but it has similarity with revit. You use revit structure?
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 7:20pm On Jan 04, 2021
yungmin:


I've not seen prota but it has similarity with revit. You use revit structure?
nope! I’m only a staad and etabs person

This is prota structures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVOHn6ok0uU
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 9:03am On Jan 05, 2021
Bringing out steel design calculation sheet in staad pro connect edition



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn840I3xENY
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by Keraz(m): 7:43pm On Jan 05, 2021
Hi Hakeem
I have installed Staad pro CE update 4
But the physical modeler does not work
Please can you help me to fix the problem
Greetings
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 8:20pm On Jan 05, 2021
Keraz:
Hi Hakeem
I have installed Staad pro CE update 4
But the physical modeler does not work
Please can you help me to fix the problem
Greetings
Can I see a picture of your error ?
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by sconp: 12:50pm On Jan 26, 2021
I have a steel problem o. I am designing a 30m truss and ending up with a very heavy angle section. Anyone have a way I can reduce it or get a more economic section?
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by yungmin: 5:20pm On Jan 26, 2021
sconp:
I have a steel problem o. I am designing a 30m truss and ending up with a very heavy angle section. Anyone have a way I can reduce it or get a more economic section?

Why not change it to I or H beam? And also, try double angle or Channel section. And above all, I hope you used the required height for the truss? And more so, what type of truss? You should use a parallel chord truss for that span.
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 6:31pm On Jan 26, 2021
sconp:
I have a steel problem o. I am designing a 30m truss and ending up with a very heavy angle section. Anyone have a way I can reduce it or get a more economic section?
use back to back angle (double angle) as yungmin suggested. Must it be a truss? Why don’t you try portal frame or linto roof style
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by sconp: 7:18pm On Jan 26, 2021
yungmin:


Why not change it to I or H beam? And also, try double angle or Channel section. And above all, I hope you used the required height for the truss? And more so, what type of truss? You should use a parallel chord truss for that span.

Can't use a H-Beam. I intend to use a double angle section like you posited. The truss is a sort of combination between warren and Pratt, see attached diagram (450mm and 1500mm).
I would change truss type to parallel chord with required height and get back to you.

Can a 75x75x6 double angle section replace a 150x150x10 single angle section theoretically? Doesn't seem to work that way on staad or I am probably not doing it right.

Thanks.
hakeem4:
use back to back angle (double angle) as yungmin suggested. Must it be a truss? Why don’t you try portal frame or linto roof style

I intend to switch to portal frame as a last resort if I can't figure the truss out, someone who doesn't use staad thinks it's possible to get something far lower.
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 7:28pm On Jan 26, 2021
sconp:


Can't use a H-Beam. I intend to use a double angle section like you posited. The truss is a sort of combination between warren and Pratt, see attached diagram (450mm and 1500mm).
I would change truss type to parallel chord with required height and get back to you.

Can a 75x75x6 double angle section replace a 150x150x10 single angle section theoretically? Doesn't seem to work that way on staad or I am probably not doing it right.

Thanks.


I intend to switch to portal frame as a last resort if I can't figure the truss out, someone who doesn't use staad thinks it's possible to get something far lower.
30m span? try 2/90x90x6. ( I did not design it ooo) try and change all the compression bars to tension direction and they should reduce
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by yungmin: 9:25pm On Jan 26, 2021
sconp:


Can't use a H-Beam. I intend to use a double angle section like you posited. The truss is a sort of combination between warren and Pratt, see attached diagram (450mm and 1500mm).
I would change truss type to parallel chord with required height and get back to you.

Can a 75x75x6 double angle section replace a 150x150x10 single angle section theoretically? Doesn't seem to work that way on staad or I am probably not doing it right.

Thanks.


I intend to switch to portal frame as a last resort if I can't figure the truss out, someone who doesn't use staad thinks it's possible to get something far lower.

Check the span / depth ratio to be very sure it is correct. Otherwise the members would continue to be very heavy. Pls reference truss design in the steel designers manual. Also explore portal frame system as suggested by @Hakeem.
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 1:51am On Jan 27, 2021
sconp can you send me your model let me try
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by sconp: 10:55am On Jan 27, 2021
yungmin:


Check the span / depth ratio to be very sure it is correct. Otherwise the members would continue to be very heavy. Pls reference truss design in the steel designers manual. Also explore portal frame system as suggested by @Hakeem.

Thanks, yes I am referencing SDM.
I'll appreciate if you can do justice to that question above on single and double angle sections.
hakeem4:
sconp can you send me your model let me try

I'll do that thanks.
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by yungmin: 12:16pm On Jan 27, 2021
Bro, that section is still quite small. I did a 40m span mansard truss sometime ago. The sizes I got for both top and bottom chords where L200x200x16. You know if you are to use parallel chord truss for this problem, your span/depth ratio should be in the range of 15 to 25. In other words, you need a minimum of 2meters depth of the truss.

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Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 1:17pm On Jan 27, 2021
sconp:


Thanks, yes I am referencing SDM.
I'll appreciate if you can do justice to that question above on single and double angle sections.

I'll do that thanks.
Copy the command file and paste it here on NL
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by sconp: 5:34pm On Jan 27, 2021
yungmin:
Bro, that section is still quite small. I did a 40m span mansard truss sometime ago. The sizes I got for both top and bottom chords where L200x200x16. You know if you are to use parallel chord truss for this problem, your span/depth ratio should be in the range of 15 to 25. In other words, you need a minimum of 2meters depth of the truss.

In the analysis I did for this, the lowest section I could get was L150x150x15. I intend using span/depth ratio of 10-15 for the parallel chord truss I would do. What did you end up using for the mansard you did?
sconp:



Can a 75x75x6 double angle section replace a 150x150x10 single angle section theoretically?
This was the question I was referring to though. cc: yungmin
hakeem4:

Copy the command file and paste it here on NL
I tried to post the command file but NL said it was too long. I have attached the model.
I stripped it bare, no wind load.

Loads were applied on the purlins, I have another model where I applied the loads nodally and that was the one that gave the least section(L150x150x15) I have gotten so far

Thanks
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 10:17am On Jan 29, 2021
sconp:


In the analysis I did for this, the lowest section I could get was L150x150x15. I intend using span/depth ratio of 10-15 for the parallel chord truss I would do. What did you end up using for the mansard you did?

This was the question I was referring to though. cc: yungmin
I tried to post the command file but NL said it was too long. I have attached the model.
I stripped it bare, no wind load.

Loads were applied on the purlins, I have another model where I applied the loads nodally and that was the one that gave the least section(L150x150x15) I have gotten so far

Thanks
i just downloaded it let me work on it.
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 7:46am On Jan 30, 2021
sconp did the architect restrict your truss depth? can you reconfigure your truss members so you do not have too many struts and ties?
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by sconp: 11:38am On Jan 30, 2021
hakeem4:
sconp did the architect restrict your truss depth? can you reconfigure your truss members so you do not have too many struts and ties?

Yes he did, though he has said I can go as high as 2m now. The struts spacing are to coincide with the purlins, max spacing 1.5m
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 12:11pm On Jan 30, 2021
sconp:


Yes he did, though he has said I can go as high as 2m now. The struts spacing are to coincide with the purlins, max spacing 1.5m
There’s no law that restricts you for your purlin spacings. Try and increase the spacing the forces would reduce from my experience. but don’t make your purlins spacing exceed 2m from practical POV

picture is a roof truss I design with 25m span. Purlins spacing of 2m

Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by sconp: 12:15am On Feb 01, 2021
hakeem4:

There’s no law that restricts you for your purlin spacings. Try and increase the spacing the forces would reduce from my experience. but don’t make your purlins spacing exceed 2m from practical POV

picture is a roof truss I design with 25m span. Purlins spacing of 2m

Nice I will try that.
Though at the moment 2L80x80x10 is able to take care of it.

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Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 1:41am On Feb 01, 2021
sconp:


Nice I will try that.
Though at the moment 2L80x80x10 is able to take care of it.
well, great. If your client can afford it then no problem.
I hope safety is paramount

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Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 6:59pm On Feb 02, 2021
Meaning of utilisation ratio in steel design using staad pro connect edition v22 update 5


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Img5UWbgER8

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Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by feeloscar(m): 5:19am On Feb 07, 2021
hakeem4:
nope! I’m only a staad and etabs person

This is prota structures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVOHn6ok0uU
Good morning Engr, could you pls give me the download link of cads rc. feeloscar10@gmail.com is my email address. Thanks in advance.
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 6:12am On Feb 07, 2021
feeloscar:
Good morning Engr, could you pls give me the download link of cads rc. feeloscar10@gmail.com is my email address. Thanks in advance.

I don’t think I have the setup anymore. I’d ask a friend next week
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by feeloscar(m): 8:25am On Feb 07, 2021
hakeem4:


I don’t think I have the setup anymore. I’d ask a friend next week
OK, thanks.
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by feeloscar(m): 9:29pm On Feb 10, 2021
hakeem4:


I don’t think I have the setup anymore. I’d ask a friend next week
Good evening Engr, don't know if you have enquired from your friend about the cads rc?
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 9:53pm On Feb 10, 2021
feeloscar:
Good evening Engr, don't know if you have enquired from your friend about the cads rc?
he has also deleted it from his drive. I’d try to look for people who have

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Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by feeloscar(m): 10:19pm On Feb 10, 2021
hakeem4:
he has also deleted it from his drive. I’d try to look for people who have
OK, thanks.
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by sconp: 12:09am On Feb 12, 2021
hakeem4:
Meaning of utilisation ratio in steel design using staad pro connect edition v22 update 5


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Img5UWbgER8

You are on update 5 already? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: FREE STAAD PRO Connect Edition Tutorial - for Structural Engineers in nigeria by hakeem4(m): 5:29am On Feb 12, 2021
sconp:


You are on update 5 already? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
yeah! Not much difference. Just Chinese steel design module and design of water retaining structures on rcdc. Then cloud analysis

https://downloadly.ir/software/engineering-specialized/bentley-staad-1/

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