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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Godbpraised: 7:43pm On Feb 22, 2021
Oga with all due respect, i stay in Canada i know what happens here in Canada, how can you bring up ur kids in the African way in a place were your kids are trained to call the police as early as 5years.

etrange:


I respect your POV. But I can only speak based on personal experiences.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Saintp(m): 7:43pm On Feb 22, 2021
Someone talked about Nigeria and respect.

In reality, Africans train kids to respect their elders or people higher than them. However, they don't train kids to respect human beings irrespective of age , status or Gender. Respect in Africa is just one way.
An African rich man will never respect the poor. African bosses will never respect their subordinates, Africans are not trained to respect institutions, this is why police has become errand boys to powerful people, African dont respect people with disability etc.
It is because of our lack of respect for human beings, that is why our general society is bleeped up. Respecting elders is good but it doesn't take the general society anywhere. What will make a difference is respect for human beings.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 7:44pm On Feb 22, 2021
etrange:


That's not stereotyping. Nigerians are known for scamming. We all know this. That's why we get harassed at the airports, etc. Others may have more scammers but that's not what they're known for.

You are still making the same Mistake. You say Nigerians are known for Scamming as a general statement and then it makes me wonder why same Nigerians are some of the world leaders in Medicine, Science, sports etc.

Can you just stop this and start giving yourself the right Orientation by telling yourself and your kids (if you have any) that you are the best in the world.

Even you a Nigeria from your own comments thus far shows you are even racist to your own people because you got brainwashed by your Western slave masters.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 7:46pm On Feb 22, 2021
Godbpraised:
Oga with all due respect, i stay in Canada i know what happens here in Canada, how can you bring up ur kids in the African way in a place were your kids are trained to call the police as early as 5years.


Thank you. Calling the cops on your parents for simply being firm on their own kid. My kid, my rules but no the system has even taken that right away from you
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by etrange: 7:47pm On Feb 22, 2021
Godbpraised:
Oga with all due respect, i stay in Canada i know what happens here in Canada, how can you bring up ur kids in the African way in a place were your kids are trained to call the police as early as 5years.


There's nothing wrong with a kid knowing how to reach for help. That knowledge can come handy at any time. But if you'd be honest with yourself, you'd acknowledge the fact that African kids hardly call police on thier parents. That's becayse whether your child will call the police on you or not is not a function of the fact that they have the training but a function of how you raise your child.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by etrange: 7:49pm On Feb 22, 2021
Tetehjewels:


You are still making the same Mistake. You say Nigerians are known for Scamming as a general statement and then it makes me wonder why same Nigerians are some of the world leaders in Medicine, Science, sports etc.

Can you just stop this and start giving yourself the right Orientation by telling yourself and your kids (if you have any) that you are the best in the world.

Even you a Nigeria from your own comments thus far shows you are even racist to your own people because you got brainwashed by your Western slave masters.

Oga, Nigerians are known for scamming. It may not be our reality, it may be a misconception but that's the general mindset the vast majority of people out there have. I did not start and I do not necessarily agree with. Blame it on those spoiling your name.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by wildikeman(m): 7:49pm On Feb 22, 2021
Yes it's safe.. But without the Africans in it
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 7:56pm On Feb 22, 2021
etrange:


Oga, Nigerians are known for scamming. It may not be our reality, it may be a misconception but that's the general mindset the vast majority of people out there have. I did not start and I do not necessarily agree with. Blame it on those spoiling your name.

That is the general mentality of your slave masters which you bought into because they spoon-fed you with it.

Same way they would come here and make documentaries about our jungles only and every other ugly place and spoon-feed their people that Africa is a jungle and we live like monkeys. All just to paint Africa in a bad light


You clearly are blind to the politics at play in the world. They brainwash you into thinking you are the scum of the earth and that you live in a shithole and then dangle their carrot infront of you just to entice you to leave.

They use you to build their countries which is the grand scheme all along..


They say Nigerians are known for Scamming yet these same Western countries welcome you with open arms and because you now live there they hype you and change the narrative to NIGERIANS ARE HARD WORKING.

I wonder where the scamming tag suddenly disappears to in such times?

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by etrange: 7:56pm On Feb 22, 2021
ekerintee:
I See some Young Kids Here,Smoking and doing Weed AS early AS 12.Children of nowadays are inquisitive ,u need to give them Close marking .When Parent are too busy and leave their responsibility to teachers,then whatever the teacher teach them ,its what they become .If their teacher teach them ,there is No God ,and you dont Tell them about God ,then they believe there is No God. If their teacher believe that everyone can decide to be Gays and homo and you dont Tell them its against Our culture ,then dont be suprise If they Turn Out gay.thanks for your contribution,i think behaviour of Kids raise differ from country to country.some Kids in Europe dont have opportunities like in canada or America ,some of them are discrimanated in school ,some are told in school they cant make be useful because they are black .If you are too busy to coreect this wrong Things they Tell them,then the child is affected negatively.God bless u


Valid points. But the good thing is the unavailability of choices here. There are Christian schools, catholic schools, etc. So you get to choose the environment you want for your child without subject them to any unnecessary hardening. Africa is a good place but I think kids need to grow up where they'd eventually live.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by descarado: 7:59pm On Feb 22, 2021
bukatyne:

kiss

Non-fanatic islamic countries/families is on point.

The calmness which is derived from their absolute belief and submission to Allah's will. kiss

Agreed.
Woke has finished us.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:00pm On Feb 22, 2021
Godbpraised:
Poor analysis, A few bad eggs out of several millions. Your reasoning sha hmmmmmmmmmmm
what of dose street urchins u see in the streets of lagos?
The pickpockets
The yahoo boys.
Runzgirls
Ashis
Etc
No be naija dem grow?
Even d underage girl wey carry gun some days ago to shoot her teacher cos her teacher told her to trim her hair..u no hear of dat story?
Hope u heard her confessing that her mom regularly prostituted her to one man old enuf to be her grandfather
Abeg naija is begining to have messed up values
Maybe in the past naija was good in terms of family values
But today nigeria is messed up
And immigrant parent who has a child is better off training dat child in the place he is located
He can instill the value he wants to instill in d child wherever he or she is.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by PHijo(m): 8:01pm On Feb 22, 2021
Yes, however the parent would still have to raise their child. If they let the streets raise their child, their child in Africa may end up being worse than those in the western world.

Denrele, Charlie boy and Bobrisky all grew up here but their minds were probably elsewhere.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by etrange: 8:02pm On Feb 22, 2021
Tetehjewels:


That is the general mentality of your slave masters which you bought into because they spoon-fed you with it.

Same way they would come here and make documentaries about our jungles only and every other ugly place and spoon-feed their people that Africa is a jungle and we live like monkeys. All just to paint Africa in a bad light


You clearly are blind to the politics at play in the world. They brainwash you into thinking you are the scum of the earth and that you live in a shithole and then dangle their carrot infront of you just to entice you to leave.

They use you to build their countries which is the grand scheme all along..


They say Nigerians are known for Scamming yet these same Western countries welcome you with open arms and because you now live there they hype you and change the narrative to NIGERIANS ARE HARD WORKING.

I wonder where the scamming tag suddenly disappears to in such times?

Well, see it as you may, that's the perception. Nigeria is not the only country in Africa, why point them out? All the scamming crimes out here usually involve one Nigerian at least. I keep defending them but they wouldn't stop. Americans may have high tech scammers but if fate has made it such that our low tech scammers are the ones easily caught and thereby creating a false impression that there are more scammers in Nigeria, I can't deny that the impression isn't there just cause I want to be loyal.

I'd gladly build any nation where I get value for it. You can keep building Nigeria, that's your choice.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by descarado: 8:04pm On Feb 22, 2021
bukatyne:


cheesy grin grin grin grin grin

Or translate beautiful native name to English.

Goodluck Jonathan when you are not a white man! undecided



My dear. It's colonisation that caused it with its baggage but in this one, our people are now waking up.

We can now baptize exclusively traditional names without blinking.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Godbpraised: 8:04pm On Feb 22, 2021
and what these percentages ?
lefulefu:
what of dose street urchins u see in the streets of lagos?
The pickpockets
The yahoo boys.
Runzgirls
Ashis
Etc
No be naija dem grow?
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by etrange: 8:06pm On Feb 22, 2021
Klass99:


Mwwaahh kiss

You are a rare, candid and unbiased nairaland male.

You be sounding sane, sensible, considerate and intelligent like moi, come let us get married grin

Lol... just know that I won't be the one to change diapers.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:08pm On Feb 22, 2021
etrange:


Well, see it as you may, that's the perception. Nigeria is not the only country in Africa, why point them out? All the scamming crimes out here usually involve one Nigerian at least. I keep defending them but they wouldn't stop. Americans may have high tech scammers but if fate has made it such that our low tech scammers are the ones easily caught and thereby creating a false impression that there are more scammers in Nigeria, I can't deny that the impression isn't there just cause I want to be loyal.

I'd gladly build any nation where I get value for it. You can keep building Nigeria, that's your choice.

Again wrong perception and wrong understanding.

Nigeria is the largest black Nation in the world and the leading African country and Western powers know that the only way to fully penetrate Africa is to weaken Nigeria thus the massive de-campaign against Nigeria which you have been brainwashed with


Why do you think that when a Nigerian who happens to be an American citizen, etc commits a crime he is immediately described as a NIGERIAN IMMIGRANT but when he does something note worthy of the press he is described as a citizen of their country?

A lot of African Nationals claim to be Nigerian in the face of crime and this is common knowledge.

Stop joining them to run down your own country. Rather be bold enough to speak well of her if indeed your brainwashing is not yet complete.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:08pm On Feb 22, 2021
PHijo:
Yes, however the parent would still have to raise their child. If they let the streets raise their child, their child in Africa may end up being worse than those in the western world.

Denrele, Charlie boy and Bobrisky all grew up here but their minds were probably elsewhere.
gbam!
To me o a parent can allow his her child to visit to learn about his or her african root and know place he or she came from.not sending the child to africa cos he wants the child to be street hardened. There are bad influences in nigeria as well.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:09pm On Feb 22, 2021
I'd gladly build any nation where I get value for it. You can keep building Nigeria, that's your choice.

This right here is the brainwash. Imagine a second hand immigrant Sha. cheesy
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by armyofone(m): 8:10pm On Feb 22, 2021
Raise your kids where you are residing. No need shipping kids to Africa to go learn one religion or language/culture
Unless you are all moving there.

If you live overseas, make sure to live in good community with good schools. If you can afford it, religion or private schools for elementary - high school. Teach your kids to respect people, obey the laws, rules and regulations.

Don't put too much emphasis on Nigeria language - french or Hispanics or other general language is okay to learn and apply more than Nigerian languages.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Oghenerobo2002(m): 8:12pm On Feb 22, 2021
I've never been outside the borders but it is certain that kids raised in the 80s/early 90s were better raised than kids these days. A child was a collective effort then as neighbors could deal with a child and the parents won't misinterpret it for something else. Technology has made things more difficult these days and we are finding it difficult to cope with it. People prefer other form of discipline to usual beating. The western world have moved on from this stage we are and soon we'll find out that their method is better than ours. Raising kids in Nigeria these days is difficult
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by etrange: 8:13pm On Feb 22, 2021
Tetehjewels:


Again wrong perception and wrong understanding.

Nigeria is the largest black Nation in the world and the leading African country and Western powers know that the only way to fully penetrate Africa is to weaken Nigeria thus the massive de-campaign against Nigeria which you have been brainwashed with


Why do you think that when a Nigerian who happens to be an American citizen, etc commits a crime he is immediately described as a NIGERIAN IMMIGRANT but when he does something note worthy of the press he is described as a citizen of their country?

A lot of African Nationals claim to be Nigerian in the face of crime and this is common knowledge.

Stop joining them to run down your own country. Rather be bold enough to speak well of her if indeed your brainwashing is not yet complete.

Lol... Nigeria is known for scamming.

Whether Nigerians are scammers or not is a different thing. Whether the perception was planted or not is a different thing. But is true that the country is known for scamming as we speak? The answer is Yes. You wouldn't need to to speak well of Nigeria if there was no existing impression to correctly. Why would you be offset when I mention this existing impression? You can argue that's not the reality but that's still what the country is known for despite the works of great Nigerians out there.

There are other countries known for this too.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:16pm On Feb 22, 2021
Godbpraised:
and what these percentages ?
enough percentage to tell you that nigeria has lost what u would call family value
any overseas sending his child back to nigeria with the intention that the child should be educated on the african value is wasting his or her time.the child could end up worse.nigeria is not as it was in the past.u can teach ur child the african value in whatever country u located.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:20pm On Feb 22, 2021
etrange:


Lol... Nigeria is known for scamming.

Whether Nigerians are scammers or not is a different thing. Whether the perception was planted or not is a different thing. But is true that the country is known for scamming as we speak? The answer is Yes. You wouldn't need to to speak well of Nigeria if there was no existing impression to correctly. Why would you be offset when I mention this existing impression? You can argue that's not the reality but that's still what the country is known for despite the works of great Nigerians out there.

There are other countries known for this too.
In nigeria when u steal or scam u are called a sharp man cheesy
We have this culture called smartness and when i say smart it means being criminally minded.if u fair and honest u regarded as a mugu grin.if person come send im pickin to naija to learn naija methods God help such child if he or she pick such behaviour in being naija smart grin.At least in the west criminality is encouraged.u steal u do the time.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:20pm On Feb 22, 2021
WoundedLamb:


Why an adult alone? Why an elder? Why a boss? Why a superior? Any respect given to these kind of people are given cause of what people would say. The kind of respect artisans, employees, younger ones, and less skilled people get here, I've not seen in Africa. When I say fear, it doesn't mean anyone will be flogged. It's just that they worry about how they'd be perceived.

Don't mistake politeness for respect. It is politically correct to be polite to everyone you talk to, but that doesn't imply respect at all. As an example, just observe how they treat strangers and foreigners compared to how Africans treat strangers and foreigners. Especially in Scandinavian countries. I agree they'll smile and thank you for opening the door, but never notice you beyond a frown if you are of no use to them.

WoundedLamb:

I don't know where you get the impression that people don't love thier parents out here. Maybe it's a matter of the country where you live. An only child whose job involves traveling around has the option of getting a help for the aged parents or lodging them in care homes when he's not around. And people do both. Some age people don't have kids and the government takes care of them. These don't imply people don't love their parents. Family comes first everywhere.

There is little family support. Everyone is literally on his own financially. No one even thinks of taking his/her parents to live with them. And no, care homes are not only for when one is not around, they often lodge them there permanently, with fewer and fewer visits as time goes by. In Africa, we don't even have such homes. I call my parents every day and I escape at least every two or three days to taste my mother's superior cooking. My kids are as close to their grandparents as they are to us. Family relationships in Africa is a whole different category from that in Europe or the US.

WoundedLamb:

My grand point is, Africa isn't necessarily a better place to raise a child who will still live a good deal of his in America. Children are better of raised in the region where they'd live so that their personal experiences can come handy.

It doesn't have to be so. Apart from the manners and values, an American is probably tens of thousands of dollars in debt by the time he's out of university. An African goes there with a fresh degree, no crippling debt and an enthusiastic perspective for the future. And within one year, he is better off than many Americans. Emigrants almost always tend to excel. Throw an American into Nigeria on the other hand, and he's helpless once his cash runs out. He can in no way cope with life, and will probably run straight to the US embassy and beg for help. So aside from values and culture, an African upbringing teaches us adaptability. I would like my kids to be survivors wherever they find themselves. But I guess everyone will have their perspective on this.

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Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:22pm On Feb 22, 2021
thebosstrevor1:


What sort of mentality is this.

Parents, the church, teachers and the environment all have a role to play in a child's life.

Children do not train themselves, they imitate what they see, if a parent is bad, they imitate that and that will become their reality.
exactly
children immitate what they see
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Jaqenhghar: 8:24pm On Feb 22, 2021
SatanicPriest:
any asian country that nigerians cant easily enter is ok. malaysia was also ok till nigerians polluted it

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin So true.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:26pm On Feb 22, 2021
etrange:


Lol... Nigeria is known for scamming.

Whether Nigerians are scammers or not is a different thing. Whether the perception was planted or not is a different thing. But is true that the country is known for scamming as we speak? The answer is Yes. You wouldn't need to to speak well of Nigeria if there was no existing impression to correctly. Why would you be offset when I mention this existing impression? You can argue that's not the reality but that's still what the country is known for despite the works of great Nigerians out there.

There are other countries known for this too.

America is known for fraudulent schemes, drugs, immorality and thug life but will you ever hear them describe her this way? Even you would never describe her this way but you would rather describe Nigeria that way.

Your racism toward your own fellow Nigerians is real.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by bluefilm: 8:27pm On Feb 22, 2021
Before nko?
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:28pm On Feb 22, 2021
VenumX:
The one on the left was raised in obodo oyibo. The thing on the right was raised in nizooria.

You don't need anyone to tell you that Africa produces nothing but animals.
In all honesty it is not the locality that makes a child good or bad
the one on the left probably had loving parents,grew up in a good home and was raised in the right way while the one on the right probably never knew his dad since the dad was a deadbeat dad who never took to his responsibilities and the mom was probably busy jumping from one man to another.na the end result be that,if u want ur child to be good then be ready to play ur parent role and the child will follow the right path irregardless if its nigeria or US.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by Nobody: 8:30pm On Feb 22, 2021
Jaqenhghar:
You have cultists even in your secondary schools. The other day it was one girl with a gun. Then the other day it was how 15-16 year olds gang raped a girl yet some people believe Africa is the best ppace to raise a child.
Not saying oyinbo land is the best either but as a parent try do the best for your child
that girl with gun hope u heard her mom was even prostituting her cheesy
i swear ehn many nigerian families have gone to the dogs
if na place where things dey work dem don suppose arrest her mother since then send the girl to a rehabitation center.
Re: Is Africa Really A Better Place to Raise A Child Than The Western World? by NoToPile: 8:32pm On Feb 22, 2021
Interesting read so far.

I do agree with crackhaus and risenphoenix1 on some of their points.


Personally, I think whatever you want to instill in a child( in naija or abroad ) should be instilled between 0 and 7 years, everything you would teach later is just a buildup of that initial teaching.

You can't start teaching a child to greet, to reapect people, be disciplined, to obey parents
basic morals after age 7, it just won't work, you start young.

Once you miss that wherever you are I don't see what magic that will be performed, I think its a lot easier to instill such values in naija than abroad but then peeps have done it over there and the children turned out well.

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