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tess1:
"But I want to talk about facts. I want to be clear, I do not want to play mind games too early, although they seem to want to start. But I have seen some facts. On 1 November, they played Hull and Mr Ferguson had a two-match touchline ban and a £10,000 fine after confronting Mike Dean, the referee, for improper conduct.

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"During the Respect campaign – and this is a fact – Mr Ferguson was charged by the FA for improper conduct after comments made about Martin Atkinson and Keith Hackett. He was not punished. He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things."

What is the fact here? In one breath, you said somebody was two-match touchline ban and a £10,000 fine for improper conduct. In another breath, he said this same person was the only manager it the league that cannot be punished for improper conduct.

What's he talking? This man was under intense pressure and he was looking for excuses in case he lose the league titles.

Don't blame the perennial failure called Benitez, blame the hater Nihilist that quoted a link where Benitez was contradicting himself. He didn't even read it sef.

Nihilist:
I'm sure you saw the words 'Do me a favour'. And 'Please give us a hand'

It's pretty obvious what the context of that so called request was.

Hold up? So while coloring the words that suits your conspiracy ambition, you didn't see the words "At half time United were losing 3-1 and the pitch was like a swimming pool." or "my wife said it was a PK"? So the pitch being like a swimming pool is not enough reason for Ferguson to complain? So the ref being biased and denying us a clear PK is okay by you? You got jokes.


I'm still waiting for the favor the ref gave to SAF.

Nihilist:
Maybe you don't remember, but Jose Mourinho was actually talking about what he saw. He saw rijkaard following Firsk into the tunnel to talk to him, and then he mentioned it in his press conference. What some crazy fans decided to do is of no consequence to this discussions as fans will be fans. We all saw the balaclava clad fans that went to look for Rooney when he was asking for a new contract. I'm not sure how the conduct of a few deranged fans is relevant to a discussion about Ferguson's undue influence on referees.

Me and you be paddies, but I'm not going to get involved in a raumdeuter style bait and switch.

How does Mourinho saying Rijkaard followed Firsk to talk to him actually equates to Rijkaard bribing Firsk as Mourinho was insinuating? So he followed him and it means Rijkaard is guilty? And how come it's only Mourinho that saw it and no-one else? I'm not sure how a deranged rants of Mourinho is relevant in finding Firsk guilty of corruption.

Me and my paddies won't get involved in Kokaneprodigy/Nihilist style bait and switch too.

Completely irrelevant again...Are we discussing crazy fans, or are we discussing mangers having direct undue influence on referees. Ferguson was PDP. The guy frustrated benitez so much that he came crying with the facts. I expect a factual rebuttal from you, not a post clearly designed to gather likes....

You can do better sinizia. I go wait....

Meanwhile, check out the cries of the only man bold enough to stand up to the then godfather of EPL....

Rafa, take it away...

Comepletely irrelevant too, are we going to take the rants of haters as facts against hard evidence? Chelshit fans and Mourinho frustrated and sacked two high class refs before they could win the UCI. That's corruption if you ask me.


Meanwhile check out the cries of the MULTITUDES [unlike the one example you could give against SAF] that were bold enough to castigated Mourinho and his killer squad Chelshit fans. . .


Blatter, Firsk and the whole world, take it away. . .

Mourinho accused as Frisk quits
Uefa has branded Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho "the enemy of football" as they asked referee Anders Frisk to reconsider his decision to retire.
Mourinho criticised his display against Barcelona in the Champions League.
Frisk quit after receiving death threats, and Uefa referees' committee chairman Volker Roth accused Mourinho.
He said: "We can't accept that one of our best referees has been forced to quit because of this. People like Mourinho are the enemy of football."
Frisk walked away from football on Saturday after officiating for 16 years but Uefa communications director William Gaillard says the body wants him to change his mind.
"Our first reaction was of solidarity and compassion," said Gaillard.
"Uefa have been in contact with Anders to try to convince him to come back to refereeing because we need people of his calibre and quality."
Mourinho accused Frisk of talking to Barcelona manager Frank Rijkaard at half-time during Chelsea's Champions League last-16 first-leg.
Roth even hinted that referees could strike over the treatment of Frisk.
"We cannot just do nothing. There will be a demonstration of solidarity among the referees as you have never seen before," he told the German newspaper Bild.
"I am really no friend of strikes but we must consider measures.
"It's the coaches who whip up the masses and actually make them threaten people with death."
Uefa had previously told Mourinho to stop "casting doubt on the honesty of Anders Frisk, who is an outstanding referee".
The Chelsea boss also incurred the wrath of Uefa for saying he expected Italian referee Pierluigi Collina to be handed the second leg against Barcelona, which his team won to progress to the quarter-finals.
Collina was then given that game, but Mourinho was ticked off for publicly anticipating the appointment.
Urs Meier, who received threats following his controversial decisions in England's quarter-final against Portugal at the European Championships last summer, has called for governing bodies to take action against those who "undermine" officials.
He said: "They have to do something, otherwise more and more referees will be forced out of the game.
"They have a duty to make some hard decisions against associations, clubs, managers and whoever undermines referees."
Fifa president Sepp Blatter also registered his disgust at such treatment.
"I am appalled by the verbal attacks directed at referees," he said. "It is often such extreme behavior that sparks off trouble among supporters.
"I strongly urge everyone concerned to show respect towards referees and demonstrate fair play.
"Anyone who attacks a referee, attacks the football environment in which he lives."
Former referee Jeff Winter, speaking on BBC Radio Five Live, was critical of Mourinho.
He said: "We have had instances lately, and on this occasion it is Mourinho's name that appears again, that on the few occasions Chelsea lose a football match there is a conspiracy theory - it is the referee's fault.
"A referee may get a decision wrong in 90 minutes, but he's not to blame for everything.
"Then is seems to gather pace with newspapers and television, and when a person's family life is affected or he feels threatened, refereeing a football

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/4346509.stm

Nihilist:
"Fergie pulled me aside and said 'do me a favour, call the game off'.

I know we're 3-1 down but please call it off, we could do with a hand here


Intimidating....or asking for favour?

PDP yawnited. You sef know whatsup...

Is it not deceitful that you are removing the part where the ref said the pitch was waterlogged hence why Ferguson told him to call it off? Then again, did the ref call it off? Why can't you show us the favor that the ref granted him. I'm still looking for it.


While finding the favor for us, tell us why a ref refused to give a clear PK that even his wife saw clearly, o ye conspiracy theorist. I didn't see you complaining of the opposition bribing the ref not to give us the PK.

LOL!! United is the PDP of EPL. United is the Don Corleone of English football. United have bribed their way to the top. United might be running drug cartels and the police are keeping mute. And after all these imaginary evidence, United are still competing, raking in the cheddahs, and shockingly no sanctions have been handed out to them.


But Blatter, the ex-FIFA president was sanctioned.
Platini booted out alongside Blatter for corruption.
Juve relegated and titles stripped from them for corruption.
AC Milan had points deducted from them for corruption.
While SAF was bribing his way to numerous titles, Bayern board members and Barca players were being acquitted for fraud. Yet, Ferguson of United keeps escaping. Even to the point he chairs the meeting of all top European coaches!!

Wow!! Just wow!! I never knew my club was this great and powerful that we can commit football murders and walk away free. All hail United the only corrupt club that can't be touched.


You know two distinct traits of haters? - they suffer from nauseating hypocrisy and chronic amnesia. I don't need to post any link or YouTube video to prove these traits.


Someone help me out please, I'm too old to remember these occurences:

Which useless team, with their mouthy manager as of then, Mourinho, and rabid fans, threatened Anders Firsk into retirement simply coz they couldn't bribe their way like United does, just so they would win Barca? Did they get sanctioned for it?


E never finish o. Please which team and their toutish pathetic fans did Norwegian referee, Henning Ovrebo, complained bitterly about, that they were sending him DEATH THREATS AND PLANNING TO KILL HIM FOUR MONTHS AFTER THEY MADE HIM RETIRE? AGAIN, SAME CLUB MADE A refree RETIRE JUST SO THEY COULD WIN BARCELONA.


Once, is mistake, but twice? Against same Barca team? The same fans? The same club players that Ibrahimovic called bunch of babies in diapers for influencing a referee's decision right there on the pitch in our very own eyes? And the fact that after these two refrees were sought to be killed by the blood letting murderous toutish fan of this uber useless club from England, they later eliminated Barca on their way to the UCI title tells me something is fishy. Popular opinions abound that this team finally succeeded against Barca coz the ref. . . Well, you can connect the dots to know the rest.

In case you are seeking for the answer. . .

*singing in African China's voice* "If I say Chelshit, you say Shekpe FC, another man say Agbero club, omo na una sabi. . . They hate man, they hate Man U oooo for inside Nairaland. . . ''

Danhumprey:
@bolded, remind me when did that happened?

It happened inside Gayners coweb-filled barren trophy room.

kokaneprodigy:
No!! What I want you to believe is that y'all scummies have been bribing ur way to the top! Since the time of Alex Ferguson. Same shit you tried to do against city last season pulling a bomb scare, so you can manipulate results, but things didn't go your way.

This one will backfire as well. Watch this space.
Manure is a fraud....

Poor Assanal, they couldn't even out-bribe Leceister to the title last season.

kokaneprodigy:
the basis is, ref saw it, felt it was unintentional, moved on, only for some powers to blow it outta proportion and warned the ref to deny seeing it so Aguero can get banned. That's the reason the man tweeted he had been in that situation before where he was told to deny seeing it.

Since you can read the ref's mind, and since Mariner saw a red card offense and decided to ignore it so Aguero will play in the Manchester derby, I can boldly say Wengay, the entire Gayners board and their Scumretards fans bribed the ref before the match.

kokaneprodigy:
He won't be sent off! Did the elbow on Sanchez against Watford warrant a red?

You're a clown. When Kompany went for a tackle against Nani with his studs up, even though Nani jumped and wasn't in danger, why was Kompany given a red? So that foul ( no contact) by Kompany deserves a red but an elbow (contact) deserves a yellow? How do you walk around with this gargantuan idiocy?

kokaneprodigy:
Why is no one asking y d fck he ignored it.

So how does hating on us answer this question? So PGMOL and the FA are under United? Is it United's job to issue bans on offenders? Go and sleep!!

kokaneprodigy:
I've said things based on the facts, you are here talking gibberish,
Is the PGMOL not under the payroll of the FA and EFL?

You're more confused than I thought. So Halsey that cleared FA of any wrongdoing and blamed only PGMOL knows lesser than you? See what hate has done to you?

kokaneprodigy:
Scummies sha wanna bribe their way to the top.

The worst thing that can happen to any man is not being poor and wretched, but being a delusional gayner fan. The gale of frustrations and rejections that keeps hitting y'all Scumretards have eroded the last vestige of commonsense in y'all.

The other day it's you wading in on the jersey discussion you've no idea of, bringing in an angle that was never brought up just so you can hate on a club you guys dream about all the time. Now, it's accusing United of buying their way to top, a top you lackeys have watched agonizingly as Leceister raced ahead to summit. A top that United left for 3 years and all Assnal could achieve in those years is gnashing of their teeth and carrying "Wengay-out" placards. A top that when your superiors - Shellshit, Man Shitty and United had a bad season, still y'all were so poor and Uber useless to buy your way to it. What a loser!!

Instead of making baseless accusations, why don't you provide evidence that United bribed Marriner? We should connect the dots? The only thing to connect here is your stay at a well equipped hospital to cure you of your inherent jealousy and chronic hate for your gods.


Were referees bought when every Tom, Dîck and Harry was rapîng your useless club? Keep connecting the dots while we chase better titles for our club.

Here's Halsey your new found hero shaming you and giving the particular match he's referring to and it's not a United match.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mark-halsey-claims-refereeing-bosses-8764725

Emaprince:
Which one of y'all plays this game.. CLASH OF KINGS?

I've seen the game's advert many times while playing Subway Surf. Is it interesting?

Lana1:
As far as i know, the manager has the power to recall his players from international duty early. So maybe Mourinho go fit recall Valencia b4 friday. Coz na only Valencia i fit trust on the right wing to keep Sterling in check

Mourinho doesn't have that right, he can only appeal especially if it's not an important match.

chrisley024:
Kelechi will do that

As a defender, I'll rather face Kelechi than Aguero.

I wish Aguero was not banned. I wanted to test Bailly against him. United have played relatively moderate teams, coming up against a full strength Shitty side would've provided the ultimate test to our team's progress.

Danhumprey:
What most of you guys have failed to understand is that the resident troll up there who has succeeded in getting on almost everyone's nerve, is here to stay and there is nothing anyone of us can do about it.

So y'all better grow a thick skin and learn to ignore him and just scroll by any of his comments. People like him strive on seeking attention and if you give him even a little, he will come for for more. But if we all agree to ignore him, he will gradually fizzle out and disappear.


Even Kagawa10, as annoying as he can be at times, have shown that he is way more reasonable that this attention-deprived troll on rampage.

Kagawa10 is 100% better than that troll. The only people that will be irked by his banal senile outbursts are those that waste few seconds of their lives to read his posts. Once I see his black or pink fonts, I jump and pass the post very fast.

I felt happy and sad reading Kante's interview.

Sad for the fact that this was the nigga I wanted all through the holidays. I even cussed Mourinho for not making any approach on that beast. I was really pissed back then reading no concrete rumour of United approach for Kante.


But I was happy finding out Mourinho even called him before Chelshit got him, way before we signed Pogba. At least it shows Mourinho knows a good player when he sees one. Coz I was asking myself if Mourinho didn't watch EPL last season not to make a move on that ninja.

kokaneprodigy:
u are the gullible one here for quoting a site without pedigree,
Secondly the issue of Jersey sales has been flogged on this thread.
Clubs don't manufacture the jerseys, that amount "if even true" does not go to yawnited's acct.

You are just yarning opaks!! No-one was arguing where players' total shirts sales money is heading to between you two, you brought it up for no good reason.

Also, you're mixing two different scenarios together. When the Zlatan issue came up, others and I disagreed coz of the TIME SPAN between the alleged shirts sales amount. Zlatan's jersey started selling on a Monday, by the 4th day which was Thursday, the rumors surfaced that he's sold the amount of jerseys that could fund Pogba's fees. Bear in mind that Pogba's fees back then were rumored to be £120m. So me and others disagreed that Zlatan can sell such an amount in a short time.


But this news (BTW, which I don't believe yet coz the site is not credible) is plausible judging by the time span of the purported sales which is 3 weeks. So while I don't believe it yet, Pogba's hype, superstar status, fan base, marketability and United's fan base + financial ingenuity, makes it more plausible than that of Zlatan's which was just 4 days. Or you think United will shell out such a humongous amount on a player that's not a cash cow financially?

If the text cypher can hold, I'll try my best to partake in it. It might be just what we need to revive this section.

Debroslink:
Quoted for future reference against Airmark.

LMFAO!! paying back Airmark in his own coin?
Well, I think he started it first, so it's fair.

Neobulletzz:
ohhhh can u gimme the contact let me add him up via whatsapp

I don't have their contacts, I'm a Man United fan. Lemme drop their monikers for you so you can PM them for their contacts and they will add you to the Chelshit WhatsApp group.

www.nairaland.com/pataki
www.nairaland.com/raumdeuter
www.nairaland.com/nihilist
www.nairaland.com/spy360


Good luck.

As usual, I came in to read post-match analysis on this thread and wasn't disappointed with the bitter comments by the "usual suspects''. If they didn't hate, I would have been been shocked. Y'all know them already, the haters masquerading as United fans. Let me not talk much about the intensity and pressure we played with in the second-half, or the never say never attitude of our entire team, or the brilliance of Bailly-Blind combo. I'll just point out my 3 negatives of yesterday. . .

1. Martial has been off form and I'm concerned. He looked miles behind the player he's for us last season. It hurts coz Martial on form is a force to be reckoned with. He needs a lot of encouragement and he needs to up his game. There's no more time, EFL waits for no man.

2. I think it's time I made peace with the fact no matter how Rooney stinks up the place, Mourinho doesn't have the balls to bench him as I thought last season. Whatever Rooney is using to hold United and Mourinho captive is very potent!! I give up. Or maybe, just maybe, Mourinho is still playing politics and is waiting for the right time to bench him to avoid the financial backlash benching him might incur. I don tire.

3. Finally, I feel peeved on how Kagawa10 keeps getting under the skin of many posters here. It makes me livid with rage. This is someone that y'all knows about his disdain for United and Mourinho's success and y'all keep getting worked up over his comments? Since United's first match this season, I've stopped reading his comments. I steady 'jump and pass" over 99.9% of his posts. The ones I read are those that contain 2 lines tops. I ignored all his arguments with Elampawa, I was just scrolling down with speed whenever I saw their posts quoting each other. Anyone I see going on that longass argument with him, I scroll past his debate with him too. No time.

As for Parrotibaba that was arguing with Wîngback, I pity you bro. That nigga is a troll. Yeah, he makes sense sometimes, but most times he spews trash. Ever wonder I don't reply his posts? He's the pink font-using moniker. I noticed him earlier last year when he was using different monikers posting on FP threads on Nairaland, steady posting pics of his boots, breakfast and laptop on EVERY thread. He was banned endlessly and he had numerous monikers. One of his monickers is Nigeriiantroll or something like that, that's to show you who he is. It's high time you learned that many are mad but few are roaming. Don't engage in mind numbing debates with every Dîck, Tom and Harry. That nigga will frustrate you. I don warn you finish.


As for me, whenever I saw the posts of Kagawa10 or Wîngback/Vanquąy16, I just. . .

https://49n2wa1rmtzn2t7jio3ohnd8.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/TNC_FMIFU_005.gif

Neobulletzz:
Is there a whatsapp group for chelsea fans ere in naija

Yes, ask Pataki or Raumdeuter to add you up, they're the admins of the group. They have other Chelshit fans in there like Nihilist. Døpe group. You'll get to interact with diehard Shekpe fans like you e.g: Bigkesh, Kokaneprodigy and Spy360.
they're re all Nairalanders and are in that group.

Chelshit fans and asking for WhatsApp group be like. . .

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3883260_zuma_jpeg2b1a6f4ae132cd6683adb4edad2d2518

Rash baba, my niccur. Nihilist, how's that hatred in you doing?

Taking Rooney out and adding pace and creativity to that position will open that defense. MOURINHO should leave sentiments and bench take Rooney or even Mata out.

I don't understand why you guys are bothered about Kagawa10's opinion. Just a single opinion. Abeg, let's be happy with result and forget dissenting voices. United won't have it all easy as top teams come into the scene, but for now, let's enjoy our victory. Tomorrow we go to war again.

TRendlona:


*Wenger since 2004* *Mourinho* came 2005 he won the league
twice and went. _Wenger still building the team_ *Ancelotti* came
and won the league and went _Wenger still building the team_
*Mancini* came won the league and went _Wenger still building
the team_ *Pellegrini* came won the league and went _Wenger still
building the team_ *Mourinho* came back again won the league
and went _Wenger still building the team_ *Ranieri* took Leicester
came from relegation zone and won the league _Wenger still
building the team_!! Im wondering what kind of a team he is
building since 2004.

No need to wonder too much - Wengay is building a team whose only achievement is marking attendance at a competition they'll never win.

MrTA:
We're a touch slower than other teams. a more incisive team with soton's speed would hurt us.

I agree.

GBR1:
Nihilist na confirmed ABU. He majorly picks on Martial, Bailly or Pogba whenever they have a bad game. He'll go into hiding permanently soon.

Martial's case is complicated. I think he's getting fitter and once he gets a goal, it's BOOM.

Jose would do well to keep him in the team and get him back at his best. Martial's skill set is still unique as he's the only attacking player at an high level capable of running at opposition defenses and taking them apart with his dribbling. That always come in handy.

You are right, but I feel his present situation started from his benching at the Euros coupled with the ex-GF saga.