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Inter vs Chelsea please.

Tankio.

popizaino:
Small team have approached bigger coaches like Ancelotti,Van Gaal,even Roy Hodgson and even Guss Hindink so don't bring that excuse that it is either they can't afford him. He is nobody.




How did it end? How is his replacement fairing ?



Yes reaching the finals of the UCL with Tottenham speaks volume while also coaching for more than a decade without reaching the UCL semifinals also speaks volumes.




This was not your point,stop asking me irrelevant questions. I have proven to you i don't need Google to know Mircea Lucescu and that's what matters.

SMH.

popizaino:
So if you are not concerned about TOP teams that can win a league then why you concern about trophies won in only in TOP European leagues ?

There is nothing in Conte CV that suggest he is better than Pochettino.

Top teams like PSG approached Pochettino while Conte was still jobless.

SMH.

popizaino:
Your argument are always one kind. Where did i lay claims to say you said the bolded? Abeg if you don't get what i am trying to say there,so be it .

Why are still limiting leagues to top 5 but you can't do the same about team?


Who has more chances of winning league btw someone who manage sevilla or Barcelona?

If Conte leagues wins were not due to the fact that he coached the traditional big teams in the league then let him do it at Tottenham too.

What concerns me with the calibre of team that can win the league?

If only the traditional big teams employ Conte, that will tell you he is a top coach. If traditional big teams don't go for Pochettino, then he isn't Conte's level.

If you, Popizaino, want to recruit a manager for your company, won't you scan through the CV of prospective employees and select the best?

Top teams like what they see in Conte's CV that's why they employ him. Same cannot exactly be said about Pochettino.

popizaino:
But the number of league wins for Conte matters when he has virtually coached top clubs?




Yes, i know him from UCL and when he won the UEFA cup with Shakhtar Donetsk and then drag my then favourite coach pep Guardiola to extra time in the super cup while i was anticipating is 6/6. No be today i don dey watch football bro.




So why you also not judging including top teams in your judgement?

Conte coach top teams because he is a top coach. Either small teams can't afford him or he isn't willing to join a small team. Small/mid teams can approach Pochettino because he is mid. There are levels to this oga.

PSG wanted to try their luck with an available mid coach and we saw how it ended.

Your CV as a coach speaks volumes.

So out of ALL the trophies Lucescu won, its only European competition you can point to that you saw him win. What about those domestic trophies in Ukraine? How many did you see him win? Why? Because Ukraine isn't top 5 league in Europe.

You are not even coherent @ the bolded. Make it make sense please.

popizaino:
😂😂😂😂

You limited European league to top 5 in other to make Conte look better, while you did not limit Pochettino chances of not winning leagues for not coaching top 4 teams...........so where is the annoyance coming from?

Where did I discuss top 4 teams with you? Please quote me or stop being ridiculous.

Both Conte and Pochettino have so far coached in European top 5 leagues. What have Conte achieved? What have Pochettino achieved? Who is better?

BlueMann:
We currently lead Man U women...fantastic finish from Sam Kerr but what about that pass from Queen James

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Why can't we play front 3 of Felix - Kerr - Havertz

popizaino:
Is Tottenham/Southampton/Espanyol among the top 4 teams from their leagues also?

Shup up.

Who is talking top 4 team? Does top 5 league sound anything close to top 4 team?

Are you intentionally sound annoying or what?

popizaino:
Where he is atm is not the point or how long he lasted at Everton is not the point but been there which renders your earlier submission as a non starter.

He is an elite coach. Eyebrows were raised when he joined Everton. It didn't take long for him to realise that its a career mistake he made. As soon as a club his level came along, he jumped ship ASAP.

How many mid team EPL coaches have Madrid approached before?

popizaino:
Nobody put CAF winners among list of top coaches with most trophies, but Mircea Lucescu was behind Sir Alex Ferguson and pep Guardiola in the list of managers with most trophies.

Let Conte do better than Pochettino has done with spurs then i might agree with you that he is better.

The number of trophies Lucescu won doesn't matter if it isn't in the top 5 leagues.

Be honest to yourself, do you know Lucescu aside Google? Have you watched his team play? Did you ever see him lift any trophy?

Tottenham is not the metric to know who is better between Conte and Pochettino. When writing their CV, they won't only write what they achieved in Tottenham.

popizaino:
Did he win the UCL in Europe?

You are making my point for me.

Quality of trophies matter. Ikana have continental trophies but you can't compare him with Conte who has 0 continental trophies.

Oga just rest. You are running around in circles.

Conte is better than Pochettino. There is no spinning it. The trophies won speak for itself.

popizaino:
Is that why Everton went for Carlo Ancelotti and Luis Van Gaal was at Azlkmaar?

Where is Ancelotti now? How long did he last in Everton?

popizaino:
So is Scottish league also makes up European top leagues.

Stop asking me stupid questions.

Is SPL among the top 5 European league?

popizaino:
Is the likes Tottenham,Southampton,Espanyol also top teams in their respective league?

No. But they make up top leagues.

popizaino:
How many trophies does Khadiri ikana have and how many does Conte have?

2 champions league vs 0 champions league

popizaino:
Don't you think the quality of teams conte coached is also the reason why he won has more trophies than Pochettino?

Top quality coaches gets top quality jobs normally.

Conte is a top quality coach that's why Espanyol and Southampton can't come for him.

raumdeuter:
So you wont have a problem comparing a coach who won the league with Celtic with a coach who won with league Leicester since coaching is their profession

Or a coach who won the EPL with Bournemouth vs a coach who won the La Liga with Barcelona

Is Celtic in any of the top 5 leagues in Europe?

A coach who won one EPL with Bournemouth will be rated above a coach who won one La Liga with Barcelona.... Read what I type again before responding.

popizaino:
But Mircea Lucescu is rated than people like Conte even though his trophies were won in Ukraine.





Lucescu does not have more trophies than Ferguson as a coach that's why he is not rated.

Should Khadiri Ikana be rated above Conte?

One has both local and continental trophies while the other won just local trophies.

popizaino:
So what makes Conte better than Walter smith,remember they are both coaches?

Both of them are coaches but the quality of trophy they won makes one coach better than the other.

This is just a simple something.

raumdeuter:
That's the only club both coached at. So should he use their Juve job or what

Both of them are coaches. Let them be compared by their profession.

popizaino:
Why is Antonio conte the serial winner not winning something with Tottenham Hotspur?

Ok.

popizaino:
No one is being childish. I attend to everyone based on what they stand for and you stand for not wanting if and it why i have avoided using the same if since we started our discussions. Mourinho did not win,making finals does not guarantee winning so don't use if because if Pochettino also coached Juventus,Chelsea and Inter Milan like Conte he would also have won the league........Do you agree?

At this point I'm restraining myself from making a harsh comment.

The question asked is a speculative one. How do I answer it without using if? Did he ask me who have won trophies or who will win trophies at Tottenham?

I think I'm done with you here. This conversation is pointless right now.

popizaino:
Too many words yet repeating what you have said before and expecting to keep answering it.

No Zambia is not in europe and there is a reason why you will not find coaches who have won multiple trophies on this continent on the list of coaches with most trophies.

I will not leave you till you give me reasons why Walter Smith is not better than Claudio ranieri based on your own single metric of using trophies to judge coaches.

Quality of trophies matter yet Mircea Lucescu who literally won everything in Ukraine is rather higher than those with trophies in your supposed 1st tier league.

The reason why Walter Smith is not better than Ranieri is because he never won any trophy in the elite leagues, the top 5.

Is Lucescu rated higher than Ferguson as a coach?

OVA200:
First, have you taken the correction?
If yes acknowledge it.

About your question:
Rank this strikers according to your football knowledge;
Drogba
Henry
Lukaku
Rooney
Ibrahimovic
Lewandowski
Suarez
Benzema.

I believe that will answer your question.

Which correction do you want me to acknowledge?

I didn't ask you to list names of strikers for me. I simply asked what else you want from Halaand apart from goals? Clean sheets?

popizaino:
He won league like Conte did in other top clubs. Serial winner like Conte should win here at Tottenham now.

Did Pochettino won leagues in different countries?

OVA200:
Bro context.

The bolded is not about halland but about football, check the post I make that reply to and also check the subsequent reply.

And even as a 9 in football you have other things to do aside goals; he scored a lot for city but is city better or worse with him compare to previous years?

And lukaku have scored a lot of goals in his career, is he an elite number 9?

Apart from the goals, what do you want from him? Clean sheets?

popizaino:
No you are the one seeing apples and oranges. My point is clear and i didn't set the rules here. Trophies is what is used to judge managers so Walter Smith is probably better than Tuchel or Raineri.

Refer to my other comment.

popizaino:
Talking about IF,what is IF doing there in your comment timbros?

Oga stop being childish.

I answered the question he asked based on how he asked it. Did he ask for facts on ground?

Bombblacks:
This narrative will never stop being amusing to me. How exactly is Pochettino a serial bottler? Please name the coaches that will win trophies at Tottenham let's see. The Conte you are talking about is at the same club currently yet he hasn't won even a spoon or gotten close. He is even planing on running away or rather they are ones chasing him away from the club.

What do you understand by that bolded? Pay attention to that will win..... Do you want me to mention Juande Ramos that actually won a trophy or someone that will win a trophy?

Stop sounding ridiculous.

popizaino:
You said trophies won is the only metrics to judge between coaches and gave you Walter smith of Scotland you are now turning amala to major leagues.

Mircea Lucescu is rated among managers with most trophies won after Sir Alex Ferguson and Pep Guardiola. They didn't say he didn't win most of this trophies in top 5 leagues so they are not going to rate him😀 above Conte,Raineri who won their own in 1st tier of European football. Now which other excuse do you have to rate Tuchel above Walter Smith,remember i did not set the trophies rule?



I am only responsible for what i write not how you choose to understand it. I said Mourinho has league titles at Chelsea while Avram Grant doesn't have at this same Chelsea. Now what have Conte done at Tottenham that Pochettino did not better at this same ?

I believe you can understand points and question above rather trying to put words in my mouth.



Ancelotti was once at Parma,even went from Ac milan,Chelsea, PSG, real Madrid, Bayern Munich to Everton and at no point was Conte better than him. Talk another thing Abobi.



Oga rest with your bias agenda. There is no comparing Pochettino to Conte. Even Poch himself no go gree with you.

1. I am 100percent sure you, as a football fan, know that you can't compare EPL to Zambian league. There is no way you can compare one Zambian coach that have won multiple trophies there to Ranieri who won just one EPL.

You know why those leagues are called the top 5 leagues in Europe. But just to drag argument, you will pretend you don't know.

Khadiri Ikana won CAF champions league wit Enyimba twice. No sane person will compare him to Tuchel who won the European equivalent just once.

Quality of trophy matters. Do you want me to literally spoonfeed you?

2. Is Pochettino better than Conte just based on their time in Spurs? Is that your metric of saying Pochettino is better than Conte? Really? So the other trophies Conte won outside Spurs is rubbish just because he didn't win it with Spurs? What kind of state nt is that?

If making UCL final is the reason why Pochettino is better than Conte then Grant is better than Mourinho too. EoD.

If I may ask you, in their while coaching careers, who is better, Pochettino or Conte? Why?

3. I don't understand what your point is by bringing in Ancelotti to the conversation. Do you think Parma is a small club during the era he coached there? Popi is everything okay?

OVA200:
Don't get me wrong goals is very important in football but there are other aspect of the game that is equally as important because it's a team sport for a reason.

Halland scores goals for city but it's evident that they are struggling and not at their fluid best.
They are not as dominant as they once were; they tend to struggle against a decent technical team.

If a well oiled machine like city can struggle with a goal poacher then know it too well Chelsea will capsize.

We can all see how Lukaku turnout at Chelsea.
Lukaku and halland are similar in some ways (in my opinion halland is better though).

Bro you shot yourself on the foot with that bolded

If it's called team sport, which it is, then different members of the team have different jobs to do. Defending, creating, scoring etc...

Halaand's job is to score goals, and he is doing it in quantom No just go there bro.

I agree with Havertz10 on Osimhen.

I see a lot of Lukaku in Osimhen. Let him stay in Naples or within Italy. I'm not sure he can maintain this his Napoli form in England.

This same Lukaku that flopped in Chelsea was tearing Seria A upadan. Same thing may likely happen to Osimhen.

And that his interview. Wow! No one say he shouldn't nurture an ambition of playing in England, but coming out to the whole world to say how he dream of playing in England, the best league? No no no no.

What's with all this Brighton recruitments?

It's okay to pick a player from mid table teams once in a while, but buying players/coach/backroom staff from a particular mid table team? That is NOT elite mentality. Kai...

I want to get my Chelsea back please.

Haba.