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PoliticsRe: Reuben Abati: From Government Critic To Apologist by tony451: 9:33am On Jul 20, 2011
Wasn't going to reply to this thread but I'm struggling to wrap my head around the traditional Nigerian excuse given by some posters here. Wha kind of person are you when you can open your eyes and ask "is criticism going to feed Abati"? How unprincipled do you have to be not to recognise that the function he served in the nation's consciousness both as an editor of the Guardian and as a journalist with a dedicated following demanded a certain kind of behaviour from him? His contemporaries in developed countries pride themselves on their integrity as journalists and for being able to hold their governments to account. If you think his years of criticising the party in power and GEJ himself is worth nothing when compared to the money he stands to make from GEJ just because he would now be able to "enjoy" his retirement then it only goes to show the real problem with this country.

From the few above posters that have excused his greed I can say that Nigeria's problem is less about corruption at the top and more about a fundamental lack of principles, discipline and morals among the common people.

The other way this can be observed is the almost total absence of ideologies in the country's politics. Its all very sad.
PoliticsRe: Phillip Emeagwali, A Hero Or A Fraud? by tony451: 4:28am On Jul 08, 2011
Lol abeg leave Ibadan alone. Its not our fault if he grew up there
PoliticsRe: Replace Nysc With Mandatory Military Service. by tony451: 4:03am On Jul 08, 2011
Haha hell no! If our military was as professional and well run as those of the Scandinavian countries where they do that then it will be understandable. Even common NYSC is not halfway close to being properly run not to talk about the Nigerian military where soldiers are at the mercy of their officers and mistreated beyond belief.

Another thing to consider is the place of the military in Nigerian society. To start with the public doesn't have the same respectful relationship with soldiers that you will find in developed countries. The degree of indispline in the military will only lead to new recruits abusing their new found power. Personally, I wouldn't trust any young person in Nigeria with a gun in his/her hand
PoliticsRe: "al-qaeda To Use Nigeria As Hq" - British Intelligence by tony451(op): 4:52pm On Jul 05, 2011
Even though it is my opinion that Buhari is better equiped or has the stronger will to solve the two problems I identified above, surely our choices during the election were not limited to Buhari/GEJ alone?

On the other hand, if some factions in the north are causing unrest on purpose, is it not up to GEJ as the GCON to put down and eradicate all threats to national security? Instead he is using SSS to intimidate el-Rufai because of some random comments he made about government spending, SMH
PoliticsRe: "al-qaeda To Use Nigeria As Hq" - British Intelligence by tony451(op): 5:18am On Jul 05, 2011
I really would love to hear from all the people that were supporting GEJ during the elections. Identify yourselves please. Come out and defend GEJ's handling of this crisis especially since he has been president for over a year now. If we become the new Pakistan with the US giving themselves license to bomb targets in the North we would all suffer and the blame will rest squarely on his weak indecisive shoulders. What we really need now is a strong leader to tackle the 2 most glaring problems today which are security and corruption so that we can move forward on other issues. If that doesn't happen then I think its time for every man to go his own way and this country split up so we can leave the north with their problems.
PoliticsRe: Ajimobi Inaugurates Probe Panel On Alao-akala’s Contracts by tony451: 6:25pm On Jul 04, 2011
Anvaller:
This is the problem I have when you argue with typical Nigerians, they just give a blanket conclusion to any issue. How did my comment defend Akala's action?. Oh u expect to hear me say thumbs up Ajimobi because that is what u'd like to hear me say? I dont follow multitude, I think independently. We have to change th way we think. Let me ask you, do you want to tell me that Ajimobi did not know that Akala would play politics of checkmate when he (Ajimobi ) won. He knew of course but yet he promised that he would handle any situation because he is the one capable. Fine, nothing wrong in that. Where I have problem is when you start bombarding the media crying all day that Akala have done this and that just like he is catching you unaware. This is not the trait of a man that is capable, I am very afraid.

The strategy is that he is building a foundation upon which he can capitalize his excuses for non performance or underperformance. Most especially if you people are falling for all these things now, of course you can easily forgive him for underperforming and blame it on Akala. Since he has taken his time to explain how akala's checkmate did not allow him to perform. Politicians are smarter than you, you have to be careful, they see what you dont see because you dont operate within the system. They plan ahead and manage, manipulate and filter what they tell the masses. I am talking out of experience. There is much more to what you read on the paper.

It is not enough to just vote people in, you have to watch them very closely.
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Typical nigerians? Please don't make me laugh. This is what you said:

"Now let me ask you, would you tell me that if Ajimobi lost a batlle for 2nd term against an opposition he hates so much, most especially if such opposition as done a good job bombarding the media about his weaknesses all the time. In that case would he also not set trap? Ladoja did it to Akala and Akala to Ajimobi. Politicians fight with whatever they have"

Now that my friend, is making excuses for blatantly inexcusable behaviour.

On the topic of Ajimobi making excuses for future failure, that is highly presumptive on your part. You are assuming that he is going to fail without any evidence to back it up. You also assume (quite erroneously) that I will defend him in the event of such failure. All I'm saying is that you should give the new man in charge the opportunity to take stock, formulate policy based on the actual situation on the ground and then implement them. One month into office is definitely not enough time to make judgements or the kind of criticism you are embarking on. What you are doing is not constructive criticism. What you are doing is about finding fault for the sake of looking like your engaged or different.
PoliticsRe: "al-qaeda To Use Nigeria As Hq" - British Intelligence by tony451(op): 5:47pm On Jul 04, 2011
Boko Haram is attracting attention from al-Qaeda? God help us all
Politics"al-qaeda To Use Nigeria As Hq" - British Intelligence by tony451(op): 5:46pm On Jul 04, 2011
http://www.dailytimes.com.ng/article/al-qaeda-use-nigeria-hq-british-intelligence


"Al-Qaeda to use Nigeria as HQ" - British Intelligence

British Intelligence has warned the UK Prime Minister David Cameron that terrorist group Al-Qaeda is determined to make Nigeria its command and control center for plotting attacks on the West.
Article | July 4, 2011 - 6:57am | By Kayode Babalola

MI5 British Intelligence has warned the UK Prime Minister David Cameron that terrorist group Al-Qaeda is determined to make Nigeria its command and control center for plotting attacks on the West.

A report published in The Mirrorclaimed that MI5 warned that radical Islamic groups operating in Nigeria, especially the Boko Haram sect have dramatically stepped up their campaign.

Boko Haram which operates mainly around the Maiduguri area has claimed responsibility for more than a dozen bomb attacks in the country including a recent suicide explosion at the Police Force Headquarters in Abuja.

The group has killed hundreds of people since it started its jihadist campaign against the Nigerian people and government.

“There are dozens of flights every day from Lagos to London. We either help stop the terrorists here, or we will be dealing with them on the streets of Britain,” a British official told the paper.

National Security Adviser (NSA), General Andrew Azazi has deployed every machinery at his disposal to identify the sponsors of the Islamic sect with a means to crippling the radical group.

The NSA has prioritized intelligence as the key means of crushing the radical group, which has so far defied government forces.

A key figure in the security services at the weekend told us that govenrment suspects some serving and retired military personnel who are unhappy with the current political equation in the country are responsible for the violent attacks currently being executed under the trade name Boko Haram.
PoliticsRe: Ajimobi Inaugurates Probe Panel On Alao-akala’s Contracts by tony451: 9:41pm On Jul 01, 2011
Anvaller:
Hee man, Do you have sympathy for one because the other is setting trap? Free yourself and see things from the other angle. Now let me ask you, would you tell me that if Ajimobi lost a batlle for 2nd term against an opposition he hates so much, most especially if such opposition as done a good job bombarding the media about his weaknesses all the time. In that case would he also not set trap? Ladoja did it to Akala and Akala to Ajimobi. Politicians fight with whatever they have.

Hee but I thought ACN said that they have those evidences before they took over in that state, in fact thy capitalised on that to carry the masses along. How come they would need 6 good month to now look for what they would use to nail him, I can remember these guys claimed that they have all the evidences, they were just waiting for him to be stripped of immunity after when he would hav lost and get him arrested.

Hehehehehe Politiciaaaans, Dude! are you taking them very seriously? I advise you to follow politics with less passion, then you would see more clearly.
To be clear are you saying that what Akala did is justifiable simply because thats what any politician would do? If thats the case then you must be out of your mind. There is no justification for a sitting governor to attempt to ruin his state simply because he lost out in an election. Oyo state does not belong to any one person, least of all to inbred scoundrels and thugs like Akala.

On the other hand I do not understand your criticism. The man (Ajimobi) has barely spent a month in office and its obvious that the first thing anybody would do on taking up a new position in any office, comapany, organisation or government is assess the actual situation on ground. This is especially crucial in political offices because you never know the true extent of affairs until you are actually sitting in the office. I was in the US when Obama was campaining for CHANGE. He made many promises and so did McCain but this was based on information that was publicly available. Obama got in and the first thing he did was to order status reports from all major government agencies that would make him able to formulate actual policies. Governing is not by magic and stock-taking is important. its not like he's GEJ that has actually been in power as VP, continued as President for over a year before HANDING OVER TO HIMSELF and still does not have any solid policies or plans to take the country forward. At this stage GEJ should have intimate knowledge of both the problems of and the answers to Nigeria's situation yet he is dragging his feet while the country falls apart.

SMH
RomanceRe: $9000 Engagement Ring: Give It Back Or Keep It. by tony451: 6:35pm On Jun 23, 2011
Haha. Just had to read this thread to see what the responses were and its confirmed that a majority of Nigerian girls are gold diggers
PoliticsRe: New Cabinet: Oby Ezekwesili Opts Out by tony451: 1:06pm On Jun 23, 2011
wtf is this musiwa guy on about?
FamilyRe: Police Arrest, Detain 'miracle Child-birth' Woman by tony451: 6:15pm On Jun 22, 2011
joe4christ:
So are u guys saying it's absolutely, i mean scientifically/medically impossible for a woman to concieve seven children withen a year, huh huh huh
Yes it is absolutely scientifically/medically impossible for a woman to seperately conceive seven different children and give birth to them in a yr. The only way that can happen is if she had septuplets and then had proceeded to have the longest delivery ever known to man. Otherwise both her and her children will have to have had genetic mutations to the point where each kid grew to term in less than 9 months.

I say this not knowing what the womans story is. If its the first scenario then maybe, just maybe.
PoliticsRe: Irresponsible Journalism: Who Would Call The Tribune To Order by tony451: 1:12am On Jun 16, 2011
Ystranger:
Your post is full of contradictions. Grave ones.  Well, history repeats itself and if we dont know our history, we are bound to repeat the mistakes of the past. There is a reason Americans reference their founding fathers? They try to live up to the expectations of their founding fathers. Think about it.

No of course, But I think, the right question is: Is Jesus Christ Awo? And if I may add, of what relevance is whether Awo is Jesus or not?

You dont? And you want us to believe you are in-tune with your Yoruba-ness? is this a troll post or what?



Did you mean: "So there is no one who will ever be effective in this world [/b]now or for the next 1000 years, unless they align exactly with what [b]Jesus [/b]said or believed in"




Well, if following Jesus Christ,[b] blindly
, is bad, then it would be bad for the Yoruba people to follow Awo, their elected leader and only Asaju of Yorubaland blindly.  "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father[b] except[/b] through me." You believe that crap and some how you find it absurd that we see Awo in the same light?

If its what you believe, it is fine. But whatever you disagree with is crazy? Is that what is going on here?


Yes. The cat hasnt changed. There are very few FUNDAMENTAL ways to skin the cat. You can compromise on everything else, but you cannot compromise on  basic fundamental principles.

Maybe you should ask Tinubu that. The dressing, the glasses, the ACN logo, the many billboards with Tinubu's image juxtaposed with Awo's and Jawaharlal Nehru, amongst others. Did that remind you of anything? And, BTW, Awolowo admired and met with Jawaharlal Nehru so many times. But never in his lifetime became obsessed with him to the point of erecting billboards in strategic places, in the SW, of his image juxtaposed with Jawaharlal Nehru's.

And, yes, we dont care, and no one cares really. But trust me, TINUBU cares. But you may not know, and I will not take offence with such blatant ignorance. After all, we are all ignorant of one thing or the other.

Living in the past? In what sense? We spend too much time learning about our history? You think learning about our history is TIME NOT WELL SPENT? You do know that every university in your beloved country, USA, has a History department? Are you suggesting that the time spent on reading, researching and analyzing the past could be better spent doing something else? Sarah Palin and Paul Revere hoopla isnt romanticism to you?But we talking about Awolowo is "Living in the past and engaging in romanticism."  You do know that learning by itself, irrespective of discipline, is to some extent "LIVING IN THE PAST."

What goals are we talking about here? This where I think you are confusing things. I am not sure what goals you are referring to here?

Who is talking about replacing Tinubu? I think you have things mixed up.



Why would anyone want to destroy Tinubu? What do you mean by we? Are you a card carrying member of ACN? And why do you think everyone here supports ACN? This has nothing to do with ACN? If Tinubu is an effective leader for ACN, well congrats to him. No one is out to bring him down. As a matter of fact, we wish him luck with his ambitions. And I am sure HID Awolowo, the[b] Yeye Oodua of Yorubaland[/b],and the rest of the Awo family, and real Awoists, want the best for him.

Okay. You are mixing so many things together. I dont know how you manage to bring ACN into all of this? Quite impressive of you though. Tinubu and his lap dog, Omatseye, insulted HID Awolowo, and I think thats what this is all about, No? Is there something else here that I am oblivious to?
Are you comparing Awolowo to Jesus Christ? Even with the massive respect I have for the man please this is beyond ridiculous.
PoliticsRe: Irresponsible Journalism: Who Would Call The Tribune To Order by tony451: 12:11am On Jun 16, 2011
If mama is 96 yrs old then she should behave like an elder. I can't believe how someone can compare Awo cooperating with his opponents on critical issues with the Awolowo family lending the legitimacy of the family name to thieves and looters in our midst! Take Akala in my native Oyo State for example. The man is the worst kleptomaniac and none performer you would ever see in your life. He collaborated with Adedibu to share Oyo State money, appoint cronies and leave Ibadan, my city of origin, one of the worst places to live in Nigeria. He has absolutely no political ideology and only bothers about his pocket. That sort of man does not have opponents because he disagrees with them. He has opponents because he wants to be the one at the centre with the opportunity to steal money. Yet a whole HID would count him as her friendhuh?!!!!! You cannot say that that type of padi-padi is about collaboration with opponents because the only thing to oppose with the PDP governors is their kleptomania and sticky fingers. No development at all. I absolutely refuse to believe that Awo would have been friends with them.
PoliticsRe: Irresponsible Journalism: Who Would Call The Tribune To Order by tony451: 7:15pm On Jun 15, 2011
Before responding to this topic I would just say that I am Yoruba and I have a huge amount of respect for Baba Awolowo. However, he has been betrayed and disgraced by the family he left behind. HID is not a politician. She should be an elder statesperson who holds the interests of her own people dearer than anything else. Yes ACN are not angels, however we can all see that what they've done so far has been for the benefit of the Yoruba nation. PDP on the other hand has not only given yoruba people corrupt governors and leaders, the leadership they have shown so far has threatened to drag us back into the stone age. For someone like HID to be hobnobbing with Akala, OGD, Oni and co is a huge slap in the face of not only the yoruba people, but her husband as well. For this alone she deserves the ire of the people not their blessings. If you see someone is befriending your worst enemy you don't go over and give that person a pat on the back. you call that person to order no matter how old the person is. If the Awolowo family know what is good for them they better stop relying on their father's name to give  them respect in yorubaland and start earning that respect through their actions.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Vindicated: Oyinlola And Oni's Call Logs Fake - Mtn, Nsa by tony451: 1:52am On Jun 13, 2011
Its a shame. A huge shame
PoliticsRe: Tinubu A Supplanter - Awo's Granddaughter by tony451: 3:11am On Jun 11, 2011
Can someone please ban this Musiwa guy for God's sake? Every important thread in the politics section that i've read in the past two days has contained his insane off topic rants and it just throws people off. Seeing his picture now is disturbing because I tend to respect elders but it seems that this guy is just mental regardless of his age.
PoliticsAbacha's Cronies, Still At Large by tony451(op): 7:40am On Jun 10, 2011
Ok I've been reading stuff about Nigerian history and I came upon this article from the June 9, 1998 copy of the Washington Post, a respected newspaper. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/nigeria/stories/corrupt060998.htm 

Towards the bottom of the article it describes the Chagoury family and how they made their money from Abacha. Is a disgrace to say the least. I did a quick Google search and what do I see? The Chagoury son that was Abach's bosom friend is now described as a foremost philanthropist, industrialist, family man, ambassador, diplomat, you name it. He was even an ambassador to the Vatican for St. Lucia, a Carribean island country, and he even has a gallery in the Louvre of Paris, France named after him!

I guess my point is, people do get away with things in this world, and sadly  this is a blatant example of what you can achieve if you are willing to get your hands dirty in Nigeria . if this was a developed country, someone would have tracked this man down, exposed him and recovered all the money by now. It is only in Nigeria someone would come from Lebanon of all places and monopolise all our own resources, walk away and dare to flaunt his ill gotten wealth.

http://www.chagourycouture.com/
http://www.gilbertchagoury.com/
http://www.chagourygroup.com/
PoliticsRe: Polls Violence: Northerners In Onitsha Flee To Asaba, Army Barracks by tony451: 10:46pm On Apr 22, 2011
So let me understand what is going on.

In protest at the elections some hausa and fulani muslims are attacking and killing Southerners in their midst, both Yoruba and Igbos, as well as attacking other Hausas and Fulanis. Igbos in the SE are threatening reprisal attacks on Hausas and Fulanis in the the SE and these Northerners in the SE are now fleeing westwards.

Pray tell me how you people advocating the murder of your hausa friends leaving among you are any different from northerners in the north killing southerners? Wouldn't that end up perpetuating the violence? What would you tell the mother and child of the innocent men you choose to kill? How does this war mongering fit in with your religious beliefs? If you are christian i'm pretty sure Jesus was against an eye for an eye. Besides, what kind of Justice is that? So if your brother kills my brother, I am fully justified in going out and shooting you simply because you are related to him?

I'm really surprised at how some people think sometimes. Nigerian mentality fundamentally has to change. Till then we'll continue to be dysfunctional. It's only in Nigeria that a yoruba person saying that you should keep the violence out of the SW qualifies all yoruba people as cowards. i guess we'll only be courageous people if we start a genocide agaist all hausas and Fulanis. Little do you know that it takes more guts to stand up, refuse to take the easier route of rioting and lawlessness and demand justice.

Deny it all you want, but reprisal attacks are for cowards.
PoliticsRe: I'v Start Regreting Why I Voted For Gej. by tony451: 10:16pm On Apr 22, 2011
My fellow Nigerians, as you have voted so shall you reap. I will just sit down and watch Nigeria unfold without saying anything. I hope at the end of the our years Beaf and all the other GEJ supporters will still be here to answer any questions I might have.

BTW I do not wish GEJ to fail because if he does, it is also the lives of my family that will be at risk. If he succeeds, then my people too will prosper. However my own personal opinion is that Nigeria will not see any significant improvement. I hope to God that I'm wrong.
PoliticsRe: Video Evidence Of Massive Rigging! by tony451: 11:43am On Apr 15, 2011
To those asking for proof like birth certificate, passport, etc., pray how is it possible for someone who happens upon this scene to obtain those documents? Are you saying if you walked up to a polling booth tomorrow and saw that happening you would go and ask the person to show you her passport so you can confirm her identity to the world? Simple common sense really - the person who uploaded the vid has told us what he knows about the women. We can only take his word for it.

And for those querrying the reasons for putting the vid on youtube and not calling the police, i'm guessing you haven't been in Nigeria b4? You think this is like the US or UK where you will stand there and call 911 or 999 and dispatch would send offiers to the scene? Did you not see all the people there behaving like it was the most normal thing in the world? if he had intervened he'll probably have got the beating of his life. He did the safe thing imo by discreetly taping the incident.

As for the question of rigging done by other parties, I can only say that if there is any eviddence whatsoever, be it videos, falsified result sheets, etc. etc, then step forward with it. It does no good making blanket accusations and using such generalisations to encourage us to accept this outrage. We should not accept this nonsense under the guise that others are doing it.

And finally this is Wole Soyinka's take on the elections http://www.facebook.com/notes/nigeriansfornigeriaorg/wole-soyinka-on-the-ongoing-general-elections/10150158708805811.  Note that the man has retired from public life. At some point in life you can only get tired of the problems of this country called Nigeria and retire if not it will kil you.
PoliticsRe: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by tony451: 3:41am On Apr 10, 2011
Sagamite:
I can't believe it!

You mean all this "Ara Oke" Oyo people are about to be liberated from PDP and "You dey bleassh" Akala.
amen amen amen. PDP has been the death of Oyo State for 12 years. We have not just gone backwards, we have become the laughing stock of the whole country. "pacesetter state" my arse. hopefully alao akala is kicked out in similar fashion
PoliticsRe: Why I Cancelled Jakande's Lagos Metroline, By Buhari by tony451: 7:26pm On Apr 08, 2011
damoche07:
Now guys let's talk like adults and intellectualsn,ehn.
U just took over power thru a BLOODLESS coup overthrowing someone from d SAME REGION.U were not so TRIBALISTIC to avoid overthrowin your BROTHER. Prior to your takin over,ther v been an unprecedent and mindless looting of d nation by the politicians overseen by a man with the same temperament like d current president.Shagari was 'gentle'and got to the position by luck-he wanted to be only a Senator until he was dragged in.
I apologise for d digression.
Now,u av taken over a country that was in chaos n the distrust of d politicains was palpable.u even punished some of them and attempted to instill discipline in all areas be it financial,ethics,environmental etc.It was in this kind of environment that a request to guarantee the mono rail line came.Would u allow that project to continue despite all the unclear circumstances.I want u guys to remember that Buhari was ruling from Lagos as at then?Mind u,Lagos was still the capital as at then.Its on record that OBJ cancelled lots of Abubakars project when he came in.He frustrated Tinubu's power project yet Kwara was treated more favourably.Abacha cancelled IBB's project.GEJ has now frustrated the dredging of d Niger River.In all these accusations,no one v accused GMB of stealing a dime.The guys has unrivalled integrity and consistency.infact,assuming GMB is d ultra-bigot he is being accused of(am sure he is not),in a democracy,u can't be partial without consequences.Buhari has fought for the people of this country all his life. Av u guys seen the infrastucture corridor map presented at the PH rally? Do u know the calibre of Intellectuals who r still covertly funding this campaign? Those who love Nigeria r tired of this PDP govt. PDP is the biggest,richest,most corrupt ethnic group in Nigeria.When they want to steal,they don't ask where Aninih,Bodey Jorge,Oddilli,Yuguda,Obusanjo,Mangal,Turakki is from.They do it without considering where they come from.Let's be wise guys.

NB;I typed from a BB fone,so am expecting some awkward alignment of d fonts with this post.
Jimmy Boy:
Nobody said BB is infallible, Obama makes mistakes regularly just like any other human being, but you must have acted in good faith and the action ought not to  swell your wallet or that of your party members. Innocent mistakes are allowable.

But thieves can not enjoy such grace, I have heard several PDP cheiftains saying openly on TV that they stole or rigged but nobody touched them.

1. In Oyo state, Late Adedibu  said on TV that he impeached former Gov. Ladoja becuase he does not share the sate security vote with him.
2. When Joshua Dariye was arrested, he categorically stated that the money(N500m) was the money contributed as requested by the Party.
3. Uba said openely that they rigged Anambra elections, did anybody raised a finger against him?

So how can any sane person ask this party to continue to be at the center?

I am on my knees begging you guys, even if you dont like BB vote for any other person but not PDP
PoliticsRe: Why Gej Became The Vp The Jonathan Conspiracy Theory by tony451: 6:18pm On Apr 05, 2011
apart from a few lines that were pure conjecture, the OP mirrors my sentiments exactly
BusinessRe: Jonathan's Govt Drops Nuclear Power Plans by tony451: 4:17pm On Apr 05, 2011
I agree that we were never in a position to implement this when we can't even manage the hydro plants we have now. However some of the criticisms are faulty. The problem with Nigeria and nuclear power generation is one of personnel, not one of geography. What happened in Japan is never going to happen in Nigeria because we don't have hurricanes or earthquakes. We will definitely find a way to mess it up sha. I can just imagine what will happen, engineers will go to work 4 hrs late, or forget to check this or that and before you know it we have our very own Chernobyl.

Ironically we are blessed to be in the ideal climate and geological circumstances for a lot of these advanced technologies to work but we just can't seem to take advantage. Look at the USA with all its San Andreas fault, hurricanes, tsunamis, tornadoes etc, and all their power plants and stuff. They would love to be able to construct things without having to worry about them but here we have perfect conditions but are still stagnant. sad
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Demands Release Of Acn Candidate In Akwa Ibom by tony451: 5:32pm On Mar 28, 2011
Anyone who resorts to violence and intimidation in order to keep a political office is not worthy of being the head of his own home, not to talk of holding a political office. If all these things said about Akpabio is true, then regardless of his performance in office, he should be voted out in April. This is why Nigeria is still backward.
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Demands Release Of Acn Candidate In Akwa Ibom by tony451: 5:27pm On Mar 28, 2011
kayci_d77:
Asiwaju or what you call your name, u better shut your trap undecided, you think this is Lagos, Do you know that Akpabio is married to our lovely sister obioma. cool Now be carefull cos he is connected to the Ibos, infact majority of them, my grand mother is even from Ikono cool
And this is relevant how? Nigerians and their twisted logic sha,
PoliticsRe: Jonathan To Keep Power Portfolio For Now by tony451: 2:56am On Mar 24, 2011
How has GEJ performed in the Power sector then? Has he kept his promises?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by tony451: 4:41pm On Mar 20, 2011
@Justwise exactly
Foreign AffairsRe: African Union Demands 'immediate' Halt To Libya Attacks by tony451: 4:00pm On Mar 20, 2011
I don't think Al-Jazeera is a Western network is it? If you don't trust western news networks then watch Al-Jazeera here http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish?feature=ticker.

This AU panel that is coming out with this nonsense is a useless body. This is the min reason Africa is underdeveloped. You see someone killing his people, threatening NO MERCY against his OWN PEOPLE, bombing unarmed protesters and all they can do is form committees and beg Qaddafi to respect human rights? How is that going to change anything? How is that going to save the lives of the Libyans in Misrata and Benghazi? Yes the West might be motivated by oil, but I fail completely to understand how THIS PARTICULAR ACTION they are taking isn't altogether positive. This crisis is about Libya in the here and now, so talking about the UN inaction in other conflicts long past or  in other regions of the world is another discussion entirely and only ignores the fact that Qaddafi is on his way to committing Mass Murder and has to be stopped. Its like arguing in court that because one man was not thrown in jail yesterday for killing his wife I should be allowed to kill my wife today too?

All these sit-tight African leaders are afraid of is the loss of Libyan investment in their countries and protests starting against them in their own countries. Anyway all will be judged sooner or later.
Foreign AffairsRe: Breaking News: A No Fly- Zone Has Been Passed On Libya By Un by tony451: 11:53am On Mar 19, 2011
Reading all the posts that are in support of Gaddafi just makes me wonder at the typical Nigerian mentality that will see us defend the indefensible forthe flimsiest reasons. I wouldn't even bother quoting anybody, but when you have people saying that democracy is not a must, or that it is okay for Gaddafi to slaughter protesters as if Libya is his personal property, I tremble. That we need checks and balances in this world, I agree. But to say that we should accept somebody who sponsors terrorism, wants to unite all of Africa for the sole reason of becoming its leader, who thinks nothing of dropping bombs on his own counttrymen and would invite mercenaries to kill them, as our brother is nothing short of madness. This is the same guy who would see Nigeria broken up so that Libya will have less competition on the African stage.

Its like saying that if Abacha was 4X as bad and had started openly bombing the homes of pro-democracy figures it is all well and good as long as he remembers to denounce the west!?!?

The situation in Libya is not dependent on goings on in another country. That Bahrain is starting to do the same thing does not make it okay for Libya. If you take Libya in isolation this is the best course of action for the international community to save lives. If you guys want to discuss another country you should open another thread and talk about the hypocrisy of the West to your hearts content.

Besides the idea for the no-fly zone is one openly supported by other Arab states and Egypt have been arming the "rebels" lately. The countries that abstained from the vote did not oppose it. If they did one single veto from Russia or China would have stopped the whole thing. Please listen to your conscience people,
Foreign AffairsRe: Breaking News: A No Fly- Zone Has Been Passed On Libya By Un by tony451: 12:14pm On Mar 18, 2011
Chrisbenogor:
The same way america wanted to help iraq abi? How many people paid for it with their lives? There is no need to reply you, we shall see one year from now where libya would be.
well if anyone has bothered to look at the resolution that was passed, you will have noticed that the UN is aiming to cripple Gaddafi militarily by taking out all his military aircraft and other equipment. The resolution explicitly forbids ground forces so no ground invasion is going to take place. Other Arab states are also involved. Basically all they're doing is relieving pressure on the "rebels" and preventing poor civilians from being wiped out. If we can't see how this is different from Iraq which was basically a unilateral decision by the US for selfish reasons then ther's no point in arguing. IMO this should have happened 2 weeks ago but the Iraq experience is making everyone extra-cautious.

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