No what you should do is take as much time needed to read them. You are not under any pressure to answer them immediately.
I know its frustrating but learn.
The above is not the point. The pint is who are the people patronizing these barber shops and hair dressing salons. If its your people., why?
[/sup] there are South Africans who choose to patronise, and there are others who choose not to. [sup]
That's the narrative that keeps getting spread as the reality. Most of the labour you are speaking of that is exploitative is mostly farm work labor and service industry jobs such as waiters, domestic workers, retail e.t.c. These are industries your people are running away from already because of the low pay and indignity.
[/sup] students wouldn't mind these jobs like everywhere else in the world but they've been kicked out by people who have their own countries [sup]
None the less when is the last time you walked into a woolworths, pic and pay or shoprite where the cashier was a congolese, a rwandan or a Nigerian?
[/sup] when was the last time you walked into a Chinese, Ethiopian, Somali or Nigerian shop and found a South African employed there instead Zimbabweans, Malawians and Mozambicans [sup]
The reason they announced Maya immediately is to rattle Rama. Now everybody will be waiting for him since the Country already knows the JSC's position.
Mlambo, the man who had no problem with Thuli directing action against Zuma but tried to stop Busisiwe from doing same against Rama. I think Rama will not want any problem, he will likely bow to pressure.
I actually wanna see him grow some bols and standup for what he wants. We're kind of sick of his meekness. If Zondo and Mlambo will protect his presidency against the Zuma and Malema vultures (and bolster the anti-corruption agenda) then he should be steadfast in their appointment - no apologies about it.
Again if you remove the illegal foreign nationals from the informal sector and low skilled jobs like hair dressing salons, street vendors, barber shops, truck drivers and the likes are your people coming to replace them? What plans have been put in place to implement this comeback?
Are there on going programs to train a mass of people to become truck drivers, hair dressers, spaza shop owners? If and when they replace them, who is coming to those locations to patronize? Jobless local South Africans with no money?
What percentage of informal sector jobs makes up the entire available employment sector?
Who and why are you patronizing these informal sector workers. If you simply stopped going to the Spaza shops, local pakistani cell phone shops and hair dressing salons owned by "these" foreigners how will they thrive? You are 60 million strong neh?
So lets grant you your 5 million illegal immigrant population. How does this percentage threaten a total population of 60 million people in a space where the locals basically out number and control. Apart from street corners, small shops in locations what other positions of power do these foreigners occupy that influences government policies towards bettering your peoples plight that you can elaborate for us here?
Poignant questions you conveniently dodge with one liner comeback.
Oh lawd! Try making your answers shorter dude, like dang!
Anyway, do u think there was no life and enterprise before foreign nationals arrived in SA According to your logic black South Africans didn't have their hair cut or goods driven around in trucks.
The skills are there - they've just been overlooked for cheaper foreign slave labour - that's the main issue here.
The JSC wanted to do it to show some transparency. I think Zondo is the target. It is obvious, they do not want him knowing that's Rama's first choice and Mlambo his second.
Madlanga & Maya are on their own. Madlanga'a weakness is just his years left to serve.
Mlambo was the reason for Malema and Lamola's screaming match . Did u catch that? The accusation is that Lamola (Rama by extension) pushed Mlambo into the Concourt recently.
South Africa does not have over 5 million illegal immigrants living in their country. It does have an influx of immigrants mostly from the southern hemisphere of which that would be logical seeing that is the most vibrant economic hub in that area.
If you are successful in removing half of that population from your country you will still have the same percentage of joblessness irregardless because on the supply side of the economic model you are not growing.
[/sup] gibberish [sup]
Last time I checked the white population stood at about 5 million and the colored population at the same rate mostly concentrated in the Western cape.
[/sup] what's the percentage of 5 mil to 60 million - Einstein? Is it not around 8% like I said?[sup]
Ahh I see you are afraid these immigrants will outwit you economically as the whites did yet you outnumber them 10 to 1.
[/sup] how can people from failed states who work for slave wages outwit us? The point is that it's a substantial number of people. [sup]
If that is not Xenophobia at its finest and don't knwo what is [/sup] flawed formula towards reaching this conclusion [sup]
It's just like half a dozen and six. The part he is stressing is that, it shouldn't have been public. Any recommendation(s) should have been under wraps.
Usually, they will submit all four names with their respective scores, strengths and weaknesses. That should have been the pattern, because now they are democratically setting up the President.
If he doesn't pander to Maya, he becomes an enemy to many. Well, that's to him but here, before the interviews the President already has his own 'man'.
Even if you place him last with zeros all through, the President will appoint him.
I get you . But then it shouldn't have been televised coz that sets up public expectations.
Usually, they will screen and submit their recommendations to the President who can pick any of the four. Rama still reserves the rights to pick any of the four. The SA Constitution does not compel the President to pick the JSC's preferred nominee...once the four have been screened in, he is at liberty to pick any. Remember Dikgang & that mad man Mogoeng.
In Nigeria usually, the NJC (our own version of JSC) will submit the most senior to the President leaving him no choice. However, conventionally, the two most senior is submitted to him then he can pick any of his choosing.
Their screening and recommendations are usually secret.
Yes, the key word being "recommendations". So why is Thuli saying the JSC has no right to recommend when they're the ones who conducted the interviews.
Yes, we get it the President is the ultimate decision maker but if the JSC can't guide him then what's the purpose of their involvement?
I correct my stats- "The immigrant population in South Africa stands at 4% of the population of South Africa.
Now even with the "correction" in those stats and given the population of Africans as a percentage of the entire population of Africa the premise put fore-ward does not falter.
How is it that the whole of Africa is in your country?
See below and Listen carefully to your future xenophobic camouflage wearing leader who is dressed up for battle but can't go into drug dens to battle those there and juxtapose it to a more level headed intellectual who articulates the foreign national and informal sector issue brilliantly with action behind it.
4% or almost 8%?
What's the percentage of whites in SA and their influence? And then tell me again that South Africans need not worry about such a large population of foreign nationals similar to that of the white.
This sentiment coming to an interview and crying doesn't work or move me.
I know the age issue is why they are considering her but she isn't a member of the ConCourt and might bring in a legal quagmire even though it is Constitutionally permissible.
Bringing someone from the SCA to head those who have been in the ConCourt is somehow, well they know best but they are setting a precedent that might bring up some problems later.
In Nigeria, you can't be Chief Justice if you are not in the Supreme Court (our own version of ConCourt). The next in line wrt seniority will normally walk into it.
That makes sense but sometimes the aspirants within the Concourt might be compromised and not worthy of the promotion. I see how brining in an outsider could be unpalatable. U make valid points - honestly I havent been invested in this whole process.
Let's see what Rama says - I'm surprised the commission came to a decision so quickly - less than 24 hours.
I think I can stomach her appointment. Your faves are retiring soon and the one man left has rumours of sexual assault bedeviling him. I think she's the only one offering hope - I saw a snippet of her address regarding women's rights (didn't watch anything on her before then) and she kinda did it for me.
This is the nonsense that you and people like Mashaba continue to spew and the rest of your illiterate population swallow up.
Granted that there is an illegal immigration problem in SA the estimated population of Immigrants as a whole stands at about 1% of the entire population in South Africa.
of the largest number of immigrants, 3 million are an estimated Zimbabwean and compared to its 15 million population size constitutes one third and not half of Zimbabweans. The proximity being the most contributing factor to the size
Of the entire 1 billion Africans on the continent with Nigeria, Egypt and Ethiopia being the largest populations, less than .001% are in South Africa.
You my friend are spewing false narratives.
Just because you see them all curled up in Hilbrow doesn't mean they are that many.
Bantu education I tell you.
Bantu education is saying 3 million Zimbabweans in a population of 60 million people in SA amounts to 1% of the population ? Nigerian inferior literacy rates at work!
Its not what I "think" or what you assume he is "implying". It is what he continues to state and do that intelligent people rely on.
Julius continues to point at the powerful economic forces at hand that are "driving" this influx of immigrants and has chastised the Zimbabwean government for allowing a large influx of their people into S. Africa as well as state that Criminal elements in the country should be treated as such "criminals". I have heard no advocation for mass immigration into the country in any of his rhetoric but your slow brains don't seemto understand because you are looking for a messiah like figure to come save you from these "savage" illegals.
You still haven't answered any of my questions and are trying to use what's called a "straw man" to lead us away from the question posed to you.
He doesnt need to "advocate for mass immigration into SA" coz it's already happened - half of Zimbabwe (and Africa ) is here and advocates against their deportation through his "there are no African foreigners in Africa" rhetoric.
Politicians are not enemies but opponents, if he has coffee with an opponent and someone reads extra into that well there you go.
Is there anywhere he stated that he will never speak to Jacob Zuma nor have tea with him. Even the Whites Malema chastises all day still invite him to speeches and engagements. What's your point?
If u think Malema having meetings with Zuma has nothing to do with both of them planning on how to stay out of jail for corruption then you've finally proven u know nothing about SA like u claim to all day and night on this forum.
You are adding context that is not explicitly stated in the statement.
Saying Africans is for Africans can mean many things. Where did he state that he encouraged all of Africa coming to South Africa to work or where he states that every illegal crossing the borders is free to break SA immigration laws.
Lol, u think your 'President of Africa' wants any of you not to come to SA or be deported. Get real son.
Question, have you ever been to anywhere outside of the Limpopo to qualify some of your statements? ( Please forgive me I know you all are tired of this reference to the limpopo but I gather many of you haven't crossed those boundaries which is why i constantly refer back to it)
I know anywhere over the Limpopo it's considered normal to overburden infrastructure, openly defecate and throw your soiled tissues wherever u please.
Temporary decline much like that of the ANC who will rebound as they did when Cope initially splintered. The DA is the party to watch, it is backed by real cash and that's exteremely important in politics
[/sup] the ANC has never rebounded since Mbeki was ousted - what are you talking about [sup]
Mfana, I've been following Malema long enough to understand his ideology, politics and ambitions. As far as pro immigrant. I am really not sure what is wrong with Malema taking a stance on immigration in the affirmative. I have never seen nor heard the man promote illegal immigration nor advocate for economic migrants into the country.
[/sup] lol, I guess when he says Africa is for Africans he means he's PRO current immigration laws and therefore emphatically DISCOURAGES mass immigration into SA [sup]
What are do see is a pragmatised who understands far better the realities on the ground who aligns and promotes his policies based on that versus one who seeks populist support by preying on the fears of jobless ness in South Africa
[/sup] lol, and land seizures and building shacks all over is definitely NOT a populist agenda [sup]
What is Mashaba against can you clarify for me again is it immigrants in general, Legal immigrants, Illegal imigrants, black migrant workers, economic migrants, asylum seekers or just people who aren't South African living in South Africa?
[/sup] illegal immigrants and consequent infrastructure decay, plus the hiring of cheap illegal labour and subsequent tax dodging [sup]
Won't be the first time attempts have been made at trying to bring him down, the man just keeps on churning.
HE will remain relevant because your electorate are short term emotional voters who can't see the bigger picture of what is coming in terms of SA politics and as your nationalist candidates reveal their stupidity on air, the strong Malema will outlive them.
I've been following the evolution of the dude for a while and he aint going no where anytime soon in politics.
Won't go anywhere but stagnant and even declining
You're also an emotional observer coz Malema's got your heart due his pro-immigrant stance. That's why you're ready to discredit the SA judicial system as "attempts to bring him down".
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According to your logic black South Africans didn't have their hair cut or goods driven around in trucks. 
. Did u catch that? The accusation is that Lamola (Rama by extension) pushed Mlambo into the Concourt recently.
. But then it shouldn't have been televised coz that sets up public expectations.
) is here and advocates against their deportation through his "there are no African foreigners in Africa" rhetoric.