Just want to have a meaningful conversation about why you are atheist. Tell me, and we'll talk.

CMdunk35:
Just want to have a meaningful conversation about why you are atheist. Tell me, and we'll talk.

And you are who ?

I'll say, for the peace of mind.

This early morning? You no dey go church?

CMdunk35:
Just want to have a meaningful conversation about why you are atheist. Tell me, and we'll talk.

There are several reasons but the central thing is when I asked myself if I never believed in a god and was presented with the evidence of all of human history and what we know of the universe then told there was a good god that made all of this, would I believe? And my sincere answer was no. I then moved on to so what explains all the evidence best, an evil god? A nonchalant god? Or no god. The first 2 explain some things but not some others but the last fits every piece of evidence we have. That means what we are experiencing is just men doing what we can, with what we have, where we are. I immediately discarded faith and I felt a relief of being unburden of belief in what in seems like a dream and started embracing what is real.

CMdunk35:
Just want to have a meaningful conversation about why you are atheist. Tell me, and we'll talk.

There shouldn't even be anything like "Atheist".
You're the one who decided to believe in an imaginary creature and dedicate your life to it. I don't see why I should be given a name for not taking part in your delusions. But anyways, it's what it is.
Well, I don't believe in the existence of gods or whatever, so that's what makes me an atheist.

CMdunk35:
Just want to have a meaningful conversation about why you are atheist. Tell me, and we'll talk.

Can u help me with 3k?

CMdunk35:
Just want to have a meaningful conversation about why you are atheist. Tell me, and we'll talk.

Is it not their Right?

Save yourself

kingxsamz:


There shouldn't even be anything like "Atheist".
You're the one who decided to believe in an imaginary creature and dedicate your life to it. I don't see why I should be given a name for not taking part in your delusions. But anyways, it's what it is.
Well, I don't believe in the existence of gods or whatever, so that's what makes me an atheist.

You are evil that is why you are anti God (atheist)

StillDtruth:


You are evil that is why you are anti God (atheist)

Okay, nice.

LordReed:


There are several reasons but the central thing is when I asked myself if I never believed in a god and was presented with the evidence of all of human history and what we know of the universe then told there was a good god that made all of this, would I believe? And my sincere answer was no. I then moved on to so what explains all the evidence best, an evil god? A nonchalant god? Or no god. The first 2 explain some things but not some others but the last fits every piece of evidence we have. That means what we are experiencing is just men doing what we can, with what we have, where we are. I immediately discarded faith and I felt a relief of being unburden of belief in what in seems like a dream and started embracing what is real.

I'll tell you why I was convinced of the existence of God, first. It's a rather simple expression. You should look at a painting and know it's evidence of a painter. You've never seen Leonardo Da Vinci, but you know someone painted the Mona Lisa. And you'll look at a building, and even if you've never met the builder, you know there was one, because of the existence of a building. Same thing as the universe. I see all around me, a tiny fraction of the universe and I know that the birds, the trees, the skies the sun, the moon, how perfect creation is, I'd know it came from a creator. We can't be a set of random throw arounds, because the universe had to come from something. Order and design in the universe point to an intelligent mind.
Let me know what you think🧡

kingxsamz:


There shouldn't even be anything like "Atheist".
You're the one who decided to believe in an imaginary creature and dedicate your life to it. I don't see why I should be given a name for not taking part in your delusions. But anyways, it's what it is.
Well, I don't believe in the existence of gods or whatever, so that's what makes me an atheist.

The idea of 'atheism' is simply because mankind has always believed in a creator. The ancient tribes believed in the creator of all things, in a form or another. Atheism stood out, because you didn't believe in anything, so that's not my fault.
You could call my belief in God a delusion, but all logic points to a creator. Random coincidences can't have brought us to now.

CMdunk35:


I'll tell you why I was convinced of the existence of God, first. It's a rather simple expression. You should look at a painting and know it's evidence of a painter. You've never seen Leonardo Da Vinci, but you know someone painted the Mona Lisa. And you'll look at a building, and even if you've never met the builder, you know there was one, because of the existence of a building. Same thing as the universe. I see all around me, a tiny fraction of the universe and I know that the birds, the trees, the skies the sun, the moon, how perfect creation is, I'd know it came from a creator. We can't be a set of random throw arounds, because the universe had to come from something. Order and design in the universe point to an intelligent mind.
Let me know what you think🧡

Why can't we be the result of natural processes? Have you seen a god making anything the way you see humans making paintings, buildings and so on?

CMdunk35:


The idea of 'atheism' is simply because mankind has always believed in a creator. The ancient tribes believed in the creator of all things, in a form or another. Atheism stood out, because you didn't believe in anything, so that's not my fault.
You could call my belief in God a delusion, but all logic points to a creator. Random coincidences can't have brought us to now.

Can u help me with 2k

CMdunk35:
Just want to have a meaningful conversation about why you are atheist. Tell me, and we'll talk.

I've looked, and found no evidence of a god. That doesn't mean to imply that I know how everything works or where everything came from.

Frankly I don't, and I have more questions now than when I was a Christian. Nonetheless, I've found no evidence for what people refer to as a god, at least in the classical sense.

CMdunk35:

I'll tell you why I was convinced of the existence of God, first. It's a rather simple expression. You should look at a painting and know it's evidence of a painter. You've never seen Leonardo Da Vinci, but you know someone painted the Mona Lisa. And you'll look at a building, and even if you've never met the builder, you know there was one, because of the existence of a building. Same thing as the universe. I see all around me, a tiny fraction of the universe and I know that the birds, the trees, the skies the sun, the moon, how perfect creation is, I'd know it came from a creator. We can't be a set of random throw arounds, because the universe had to come from something. Order and design in the universe point to an intelligent mind.
Let me know what you think🧡

I think this is one of the most lame excuses for the existence of a god. In fact, I think it is more the excuse for the existence of millions of gods, since the universe is not one painting, but more like billions of paintings painted by millions of painters with millions more to paint in the small details like single planets and mountains and valleys and rivers and living things.

Then there is the problem of there being a god and therefore a god who created it, and another who created that god that created god ad infinitum.

What do you think?

LordReed:


Why can't we be the result of natural processes? Have you seen a god making anything the way you see humans making paintings, buildings and so on?

Haven't come to this in a long time sorry about that.
Your question.
Same way buildings can't be results of 'natural processes'.
I'm sure you know about Mount Rushmore. The sculpture on the mountain of the four founding fathers of the US.

You can't tell me erosion cut through the stone, and made the foreheads, and lips and heads of four men.
A sculptor, a genius one did so.

For life to exist, there has to be a source that is infinite, outside the bounds of time and space itself, genius enough to create complex species.

In sense, God.

budaatum:


I think this is one of the most lame excuses for the existence of a god. In fact, I think it is more the excuse for the existence of millions of gods, since the universe is not one painting, but more like billions of paintings painted by millions of painters with millions more to paint in the small details like single planets and mountains and valleys and rivers and living things.
Then there is the problem of there being a god and therefore a god who created it, and another who created that god that created god ad infinitum.

What do you think?

The problem in the first paragraph of your logic is that you say the universe is a billion paintings. No. The universe is one.
There could be one painting, but a lot of elements. The people in it, the background, the meaning. Doesn't mean it was made by different people.

Your second paragraph. Who created God? In essence.
For the universe to exist today it had to have a beginning. We've gotten past that. There was a Big Bang. What caused the Big Bang, the start of it all? Something out of time and space (time started with the universe), something intelligent (creation works perfectly), something, something without a beginning and an end.
God, in essence.

CMdunk35:


Haven't come to this in a long time sorry about that.
Your question.
Same way buildings can't be results of 'natural processes'.
I'm sure you know about Mount Rushmore. The sculpture on the mountain of the four founding fathers of the US.

You can't tell me erosion cut through the stone, and made the foreheads, and lips and heads of four men.
A sculptor, a genius one did so.

For life to exist, there has to be a source that is infinite, outside the bounds of time and space itself, genius enough to create complex species.

In sense, God.

You didn't answer my question.

CMdunk35:


For the universe to exist today it had to have a beginning. God, in essence.

Ergo, for there to be a god, it had to have a beginning and be created by an intelligent mind?

CMdunk35:


Haven't come to this in a long time sorry about that.
Your question.
Same way buildings can't be results of 'natural processes'.
I'm sure you know about Mount Rushmore. The sculpture on the mountain of the four founding fathers of the US.

You can't tell me erosion cut through the stone, and made the foreheads, and lips and heads of four men.
A sculptor, a genius one did so.

For life to exist, there has to be a source that is infinite, outside the bounds of time and space itself, genius enough to create complex species.

In sense, God.

How can you tell whether something is designed? When you look at mountains, the course of rivers, sand dune, waterfalls and all the magnificent physical features on our planet, what about them tells you that they are the works of a god and not just any god, the one you believe in?

LordReed:


Why can't we be the result of natural processes? Have you seen a god making anything the way you see humans making paintings, buildings and so on?

Snake you remain as the son of one. He mentioned "set of random throw arounds", you somehow stuck to natural processes. He obviously inferred based on what things are seen, but you're shifting slyly to seeing gods. Keep deceiving yourself.

ReacherSaidNoth:
How can you tell whether something is designed? When you look at mountains, the course of rivers, sand dune, waterfalls and all the magnificent physical features on our planet, what about them tells you that they are the works of a god and not just any god, the one you believe in?

Oh, so all the life you see was not designed? You just suddenly have mammals, birds, plants, heart, teeth and sperm. You must have a lot of crazy faith to believe that.

Image123:


Oh, so all the life you see was not designed? You just suddenly have mammals, birds, plants, heart, teeth and sperm. You must have a lot of crazy faith to believe that.

It's not my fault you education was inadequate and you know nothing of organic evolution.

ReacherSaidNoth:
It's not my fault you education was inadequate and you know nothing of organic evolution.

And organic evolution is not design?

LordReed:


Why can't we be the result of natural processes? Have you seen a god making anything the way you see humans making paintings, buildings and so on?

Natural processes already shows that diverse things are only made by Greater Persons.

And rather we see man making things the way God had alreaddy made things.

Wilgrea7:


I've looked, and found no evidence of a god. That doesn't mean to imply that I know how everything works or where everything came from.

Frankly I don't, and I have more questions now than when I was a Christian. Nonetheless, I've found no evidence for what people refer to as a god, at least in the classical sense.

You are lying like a person seeing that his child looks like his wife's boss and yet he says he sees no evidence of cheating.

budaatum:


Ergo, for there to be a god, it had to have a beginning and be created by an intelligent mind?

This is a fallacy.

The mere fact that we and our house called earth were created and have a begining does not extend to God exactly, as, mannequins should not think that because it is made of plastics therefore, its god is made of plastic.

And by your statement, you have admitted that for us, we have a God over us.

ReacherSaidNoth:
How can you tell whether something is designed? When you look at mountains, the course of rivers, sand dune, waterfalls and all the magnificent physical features on our planet, what about them tells you that they are the works of a god and not just any god, the one you believe in?

Design, tells you its design and it takes intelligence to create designs as proven by the drawings and designs made by babies and toddlers.

Image123:


And organic evolution is not design?

Oh ooh! Tell him.

StillDtruth:


Oh ooh! Tell him.

They don't want the truth. They want to win silly arguments.

Image123:


They don't want the truth. They want to win silly arguments.

Dont mind them. Silly argunents are even invalid arguments, so, they have no argument to make.