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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 6:41pm On Nov 30, 2025
Goal!!!!!!!


Dia fada grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 6:33pm On Nov 30, 2025
drisham:
Was literally shouting at him to calm down after he bumped eze twice


He don spoil sweet game ffs
Same here. I was actually more concerned about Cucu but I was observing Caicedo too.. chai na wah ooo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 6:24pm On Nov 30, 2025
Imagine a game between Arsenal and Barca this season chai. Wetin Madrid collect last season go be child's play grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 6:17pm On Nov 30, 2025
Ibime:
Upon say we dey down to 10 men, Enzo still dey play false 9
grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 6:11pm On Nov 30, 2025
Rubbish!!! 😡 😡
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 6:09pm On Nov 30, 2025
Elnino4ladies:
No way that's a red
Na red card. Poor challenge 😞😞
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 6:09pm On Nov 30, 2025
I said it. Caicedo and Cucu should calm d fcck down. I no talk am finish....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 5:26pm On Nov 30, 2025
Bimmarlykay:
Is Jong even press resistant? grin
Yes. That's actually his most prominent ability.

Lemme list what he's good at.
1. Press resistance
2. Twisting and turning.
3. Making 2 yard pasess with some finesse.
4. Making average midfielders look better than themselves
5. Looking labored, weak and uninterested in high intensity games.
6. Looking busy yet doing absolutely nothing.
7. Aesthetic pasess to the right or left backs.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 2:18pm On Nov 30, 2025
popizaino:
And that's were the misconception comes from. Why does a team without the ball determines their style?

Never in the life of me will the concept of a team without the ball reveal their style? It will never make sense to me.

For me i determine how a team plays,with what they do with the ball when they have it. That's the proper way to look at it

When you understand this concept,you will get to determine which team attacks better and which team doesn't.

The all attacking Barca side that we all like to reference were not called the greatest attacking side on the back of what they do without the ball.

In fact pep guardiola famously called his side the worst side without the ball but that did not stop them from being the best attacking side ever.

Football 101.
Chief, Attacking coaches play on the front foot. It doesn't matter the team they're coaching. Whether they're coaching Eibar, Wolves, Burnley you'll clearly see the idea. It's why Kompany got relegated and why Marcelo Biesla was chopping crickets scoreline because they always wanted to play on the front foot but they didnt have the players to execute their ideas. Britthon coach is another example of an attacking coach.

Nothing is wrong with Glanser though. He's a good coach but he's like them Inzaghi, Simemoe. They play better without having much of the ball. Back foot football. You can't want attacking/attractive football and Glanser is your choice.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 2:08pm On Nov 30, 2025
fatherofnone:
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pedri didn't look like it when we bought him
i was like " who be this one"
look at him now ,he humbled the great okpa
same could be said for raphinha (who ever scouted nd bought that guy deserves heavenly pleasures on earth)
even rakitic
mehn
even busi look weak nd frail
if martin keeps improving
we'll just crown him as our very own maldini
yet again
hope no be agenda u dey drive
Yeah, football no be by looks 👍
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 1:26pm On Nov 30, 2025
StarchAndBanga:
Popizaino is funny mehn

How would someone watch this Crystal Palace side and call them an attacking team grin grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by AirBere: 12:20pm On Nov 30, 2025
Pino about to cook United grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere:
It'll take a real miracle for Gerrard Martin to make it here as a first team regular. No matter how good he becomes, it'll be very difficult for him simply because he looks like a comedian/diplomat from Pakistan/India. He just doesn't look like a serious CB that can strike fear in the eyes of the opponent. He sometimes look really clumsy but he's doing fine to be honest.

This may sound controversial and I'm not judging from last game but I think he's better at CB than LB, hes also a better LCB than Eric Garcia. He wins more duels and his "passing from the back is more clean because he's left footed and plays the LCB"

But like I said, his face doesn't look serious at all. If he looked like the guy below, may be he would've been trusted by now because for me, he looked better there. Was good during pre season and the last two Laliga games at CB.

At the end of the day, football isn't by looks and if he's good enough he'll play enough simple.

I'll like to see him Vs a serious contender in the UCL before praising him fully.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 11:32am On Nov 30, 2025
andrewbaba44:
Tchouameni and camavinga aren’t even better players than FDJ and kroos still thrived

2 players wey no get sense
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Leave JP lol. Kroos was the one holding Madrid and making them a serious UCL contender. Tchomeni/Veleverde both treat the ball like a timed bomb while Camavinga thinks midfield work is about running sideways and shaking his long hair from left to right while spending time with club doctors.

Kroos that'll drop between CBs, get the ball from from them and progress it forward. Not only that, he showed serious personality in big games. Since e comot Madrid wetin Tchomeni and Camavinga don do lol.

Modric a CM is now 40 years old and now playing DM for both club and country. Qualified them for world cup while his AC Milan are now on top of the league. But Dejong needs 3 Kante, 6 Redondo, and 2 Xavi in order to perform.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 11:05am On Nov 30, 2025
abduleez1:
When it was more than obvious we needed a DM badly in Xavi's last season and we were almost killed off..... Xavi realised too late to play Christensen there and we could clearly see the changes and stability Chris brought to that position while he played there at the tail end of the season.

Was he a DM?

But people are more interested in formulating heaps of excuses for De Jong.
Schweitiger played DM won world cup. Enzo played DM, won world cup. Pirlo at old age played DM for Juventus reached UCL final. Calganuglu a known Attacking midfielder converted to DM played there and reached two UCL finals, Vintihhna won nations league and UCL playing DM. Rice played DM and reached Euros final....etc.

All these CMs played DM and achieved or got far in the hardest competitions but Dejong must be surrounded by Xavi, Inietsa, Zidane, Petit, Viera, Casemiro, Kante, Yaya, Alonso etc in order to reach at least one UCL/WorldCup/Euros final.

Are you aware that Lasecher Schone the DM who gave Dejong the platform to venture forward as a CM was playing as an attacking midfielder prior to that thier super season which they reached UCL semi-final? Can Dejong screen the back 4 like that and give a younger CM the platform to perform like Schone did for him? He's a luxury player at best.

Loooooooooool grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 10:37am On Nov 30, 2025
jpmoriarti:
This is a fallacy, bro. First of all, you have never attended training with Frenkie de Jong nor are you privy to the specific requirements given to him by Hansi Flick during said training.
Do you think Flick is the kind of manager to play players who do not follow instructions or are not coachable?

You keep mentioning Vitinha but you never for once mention his defensive midfield partners like Joao Neves or Fabian Ruiz, who are defensive first midfielders. You make it seem that Vitnha plays the position all by himself.

Besides, Joshua Kimmich and Leon Goretzka were the major defensive midfielders for Bayern during there 2020 UCL win, not only Thiago Alcantara.

In the end, what I am saying is that defensive work is effort for the whole team. It is clear that this season, Barca's defensive game has been a disaster. We don't have a consistent CB pairing and this matters alot.

Singling out FdJ is not right, as the components around him is far from good at this time. Jules Kounde has been so poor this season with his defensive actions, worsening all the issues we're facing defensively.
Fallacy bawo grin grin

Dejong isn't coachable and his average position in the DM position shows that. The coach will put him as a DM, he'll stray away from his position and be driving forward unnecessarily. I remember a game Vs Napoli in UCL abi Europa where he did something like that which got Xavi really pissed. If he was coachable like Vintinha, he'll stay and maintain his position in the red zone. Xavi saw this and demanded a DM asap. DM issues is one of the reasons Xavi left Barca.

You dey funny me sha lol. Midfield partners isonu. Pedri and Gavi are what? Pedri and your friend weakling Olmo are what? No be partners because nah Dejong. Excuses must always be made for Dejong. Calganuglu that played DM and played two UCL finals are his partners better than Pedri, Gavi, Olmo?

Baba go watch the games lol. Kimmich was a right back under Flick and Goretxka never played DM anywhere even at Shalke or the German national team. Goretxka was/is a CM and have never played DM anywhere even in his dreams. Flick had Kumich at RB, Goretxka CM and Thiago screening the back 4 as DM. Watch the games or at least make some research before entering convos nah lol.

Kroos, like Vintinha would've been successful without DM.

Schweitiger started as left winger, became a CM and won the world cup playing as a defensive midfielder.

Dejong is a good player though but he's a luxury player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere:
jpmoriarti:
Of course there are things Kroos is better at the Frenkie de Jong but perhaps it was possible for Kroos to explore other areas of his game because he had a dependable Casemiro beside him. A pleasure which Frenkie de Jong currently do not enjoy.

A question: Do you think Toni Kroos would have been the midfielder he's been regarded as today, if he were the sole DM for Real Madrid? What do you think AirBere 🤔 😏
This is a very easy question bro lol. Vintinha is shorter, weaker, less experienced than Dejong. He started as a CM, went on loan to Wolves and was arguably the biggest flop that season in the EPL, returned to Porto, continued playing as a CM. He then joined PSG as a CM and was paired with Ugarte by Enrique. Later Enrique saw Ugarte was poor on the ball, introduced Vintinha as the DM. That season, they went on to win the UCL.

Like Vintinha, Kross is coachable so yes he would've still done well as a DM. Dejong Isn't coachable at all. He does what he wants on the pitch.

Thiago Alcantra known for twisting and turning like Dejong was a CM but won UCL playing as DM under Flick.

Cahnoglu of Inter Milan was an AM throughout his career until he joined inter and became one of the best DM in the world, winning serie A and playing UCL final twice. It's about paying attention to details and being coachable.

I tell you, if Pedri is trained to play DM, he'll do better than Dejong in that role because he's a listener and ready to learn kind of player.

If you need more examples, hit me up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 2:57am On Nov 30, 2025
Bimmarlykay:
Don't ever mention Jong alongside Kroos.

Ballerina can't even do long balls to save his wife.

Take this from a Barça fan.
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The most prominent similarity between Dejong and Kroos is press resistance. Other things like long balls, defending, duels, leadership and showing up in big games Dejong is nowhere near lol.

The coachable Rakitic a CM spent his peak years at Barca playing on the right side. Yes he was a CM on paper but when Barca won the UCL, he was doing an excellent job covering the whole right side for Messi and making the system work for Enrique. Tell Dejong to do that work, nah so so stories.

Xavi knew Dejong is good but didn't trust him disciplined/coachable enough to screen his defense that's why he was crying for a DM.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 8:36pm On Nov 29, 2025
jpmoriarti:
Inter Milan game we were very close to winning it. Other games, we were beaten by the better team.
You do realise that there's nothing like this in football as history only remember winners.

In the next century nobody will say that it was Emilainano Martinez' last minute save gave Messi his first and probably his only world cup trophy. What people will remember is that France lost to Argentina period.

Anyways, enjoy your win, I'll be back Vs Tico grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 8:25pm On Nov 29, 2025
jpmoriarti:
We have no better alternative right now. We have to hope that we become more defensively stable as a team as the season go on.
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QED!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 8:18pm On Nov 29, 2025
jpmoriarti:
This is not a good example bro. We were playing with a man down. There’s a reason why goals scored when opponents are a man down, are never eligible for best goal scored, no matter how good the goal was.
grin grin

Were you also a man down Vs PSG and Madrid this season. Inter Nkor?.

I don't want to talk about his previous disastrous outings under Veleverda, Satien, Koeman and Xavi lol.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 8:15pm On Nov 29, 2025
jpmoriarti:
Yeah I know😎 I’m just playing with you
grin grin grin grin
Me sef nah play I dey play with you ooo 😎

Doesn't stop the fact that he's a liability as a DM sha grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 8:01pm On Nov 29, 2025
jpmoriarti:
Frenkie de Jong didn’t even play today but AirBere is forcing us to talk about him 😬😬
Normal discussions bro lol. All for the fun of it. Nobody is forcing anyone my man. grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 7:59pm On Nov 29, 2025
jpmoriarti:
FdJ is a player in the mould Toni Kross. Toni Kross shown at Real Madrid because he had solid DM like Casimero who did the dirty job and won a fair few tackles.

We have no reliable ball winner at Barcelona. It tends to get more exposed in bigger games especially this season where we don’t even have a reliable CB pairing. Hansi Flick has literally tried all possible combinations but none has worked so far.

Today it was Gerard Martin and Curbasi. Nobody’s knows who is going to play there next week. This is affecting the defensive part of our play. Unlike last season where Curbasi and Iñigo Martínez played regularly together
And kroos is similar to Vintinha who won UCL playing as a DM. Baba the DM role is about being on time to mop up things. FDJ is always late to everything because he's always too forward. Even the forward wey e dey go, no goals, no assist.

He's always late and uncoachable....he's supposed to be in that red zone.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 7:51pm On Nov 29, 2025
Iqtest:
He's a CM, not a DM. It's not his fault the club doesn't have a proper defensive midfielder right now. We shouldn't blame him for the club's inability to provide one.
This I'll agree with but this just shows he's not a very bright player and somewhat uncoachable. He's been playing that position since Bousquet left Barca. By now he should know what's expected of him as the cleaner in front of the back 4.

Tonali, Vintihhna, Nico Gonzalez, Gravenbrg were all CM but now playing the DM role better than Dejong. They screen better than him if you follow their teams.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 7:38pm On Nov 29, 2025
Iqtest:
De Jong isn't a DM - he's a CM. Cut him some slack.

There isn't a single Chelsea midfielder better than De Jong right now.

Name one Chelsea CM who is better than him
This is a delusional comment lol. Dejong keh 😂. You must think midfield work is about aesthetics. You Sabi who be Caicedo?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 7:34pm On Nov 29, 2025
jpmoriarti:
😂😂😂😂No need for me to hate on a player wey dey on contract. Even if hate from now until forever, nothing is going to change. I prefer to support them and hope they reach their true potentials at Barcelona 😎
wink wink wink
Iqtest:
I watch Barça matches all the time, and honestly, I don't even understand the hate. It's not his fault we aren't pairing him with a ball-winner. We need a proper DM so we can switch back to the 4-3-3 with De Jong, Pedri, and a solid defensive midfielder. I'm tired of this 4-2-3-1 nonsense. The Barça

I grew up watching played 4-3-3.
Nope, nobody is hating on Dejong. Or should I say lemme speak for myself. I'm not hating on Dejong. Criticism for me does not mean hate. Hate is wishing him bad in life.

grin grin grin As a DM, Dejong is a liability this criticism is valid based on big game results.


Yes you're right. Dejong, Pedri and a proper DM will be very good. You can can win the UCL with that sef but him as a DM? Lol.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 7:19pm On Nov 29, 2025
Kilishihunter:
Olmo was more of laporta's signing, we've been talking about him even when alemany our former director was here, what deco loves is Portuguese and Brazilian players if not for Flick I'm sure inacio would have been priority over Guehi and schlotterbeck but he has an eye for good wonder kids sha
Which wonder kid did he sign or recommend for Barca. Roque and Estavo? Can't remember anyone sha.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 7:11pm On Nov 29, 2025
jpmoriarti:
Casado worried me. I don’t know if he won any of his duels in the midfield 😩😩
He's a better DM than Dejong but not a better player. You'll know this from big game results.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 7:10pm On Nov 29, 2025
Ijostwantto:
make he carry the on and off confidence go ucl. I don't trust olmo grin cheesy
grin grin grin
E be like say nah Jp be Deco ooo lol. e love weaklings too much. Like Deco, he's in love with Dejong and Olmo the weakling.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 7:06pm On Nov 29, 2025
jpmoriarti:
Recency bias 😳😳 How many does Chelsea have?
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Caicedo, World cup winner Enzo and of course Palmer. So three.

Barca have Pedri. Dejong is good but against elite teams he's a weakling. The results speaks for itself.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by AirBere: 6:56pm On Nov 29, 2025
jpmoriarti:
Good game in the end 🙌 We got nervous towards the end but Olmo’s goal sealed it for us 🥰🥰
Purple 🟣 should be satisfied grin grin grin

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