₦airaland Forum

adanny01:
Answer this simple question, in saner climes, do government pay lecturers at all, buy books, build infrastructure?

Hehehehe yes!!!!!!! Yes!!!!! Oh my God, yes!!!!!!

Free education in Germany is sponsored by who? By who? Finland, Sweden, etc. Even the USA.

What are educational grants to universities for sir?

Think9ja:
Brand New iPhone 13 350k?
How much is iPhone X?

I think the person you quoted is talking about tear leather, while you're mistaking it for London used.

I could be wrong tho

Bro, I said 300-350k LESS. That's 900-300, or 350k Less.

600 or 550. You get me?

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Hueyreckless0007:
Personally, I don’t really understand why people are backing ASUU.

ASUU are fighting for ASUU (their pockets) not for the Nigerian students.

During my undergraduate days, we witnessed series of strikes, the government settled them on several occasions but students still sat on bare floor just to attend lectures.

Greedy set of people.

Show me where Govt settled ASUU on all demands and I'll give you 10k now now now.

Bring proof that it's ASUU and not govt that is not honouring agreements.

You think it's ASUU that will buy chairs and tables and infrastructure for school?

Hehehe God abeg

BabaO2:
stop grandstanding you are a graduate assistant, collect your monthly stipend and keek quite, if you are not satisfied with it fnckoff if you can.

Lmao e say na "keek" quiet. . You wey I go help you pay your light bill and pay for unlimited data with ease and probably feed your family too lol.

Church rat. Better know your mates bro.

kafeii123:
Maybe that is what obtains in your university...it's not a general thing...in most federal universities...selling of handouts is not allowed...only state unis get away with such a thing..... federal can only sell laboratory manuals...

If they're paid well....they won't have to run to private Unis for extra pay...it's stressful even for those who do it.

As for government breaking their wings...that's not possible... evey government is only limited to 8years maximum...ASUU outlives them

Person wey go college of education naim you dey follow drag? You mess up bro. Leave the guy. He hasn't been paid at his teaching job, hence the time to come online and type nonsense lmao

BabaO2:
You are not a qualified lecturer yet but an assistant to a lecturer, you are only being paid stipend. stop grandstanding

Omo you stupid sha. Lmao.
An assistant lecturer is a full lecturer that has started or is about to complete his PhD.

You just dey find useless points upandan. Olodo lmao

coputa:
This is a summary of the mindset of a nigeria university lecturer.someone employed to chart a course,direct and educate his student loothe,ignore and intimidate them.yes,i quess you were once an olodo weed smoking student as well.Most of you so lecturers are not well qualified and trained for the job.expecially you,how would impart with this your ill mannered,temperamental and peevish mien.This is the problem,they only care about their pay rise and jettison the academic welfare of their student

You're a fool to think in a lecturer, but no wham, it's how your brain works so i'm not worried. Your writeup is riddled with so many inconsistencies, I wonder who you managed to pass WAEC. Lmfao nobody in your nuclear and extended family can clean my shoes, let's not even talk about standing in the same place to talk. Rubbish.

Is this how you're teaching those kids? No wonder they've decided to hold your salary lmao. Hunger go kill you.

Queensee:
What has my contribution to Nairaland got to do with this?

We all have X*X or don't you?

How does that affect this post?

Once again, there we have you displaying misplaced priorities.

Back to the matter, is the salary not increasing as the lecturer progresses with his Career?

The soldier have to wait 6-7 years before they can have 10k increment on their salaries. And here you are whyning

Arm robber will theif that your phone that you use to play call of duty.

Lmfao I have money to buy 10 more, fool. And I don't do Bleep like you. Im Well trained, and I don't need to come online to show how much I need or must have sex like you and everyone in your house. Smh. Disgrace.

I don't need money from federal govt to do it. Don't worry. Everything you think is normal, will happen to you. You will work for 7 years and see only 10k increment in your salary. You will slave away all your life for 120k which will be enough for you and your family.

Finally, you will see the man that will give you endless thrusting to satisfy your crazy libido as that's all you care about in this life. Lol.

Person wey wan graduate no even know the difference between thief and steal. And you probably use one Tecno that is why your autocorrect isn't up to date to help you correct the sentence.

Queensee:
I can now see all of you are delusional

Stupid people.

Which government will answer your cry?

Is it this same government that hàs turned a blind eye to the economic situations of the state?

You people should apply wisdom and continue the struggle after a new government comes into power

Stupid you doesn't know that government is treated as one. It doesn't start and end with one government. It is in continuum. You won't know sha as you spend all your time looking for where to fornicate lmfao.

Bye bye.

Queensee:
How much do you want to be earning Oga?

Thief's!!!

No worry, now. Shebi 120k is big money? That's the amount you will earn till tou die. If you get married, that's what you and your spouse will earn and you'll be comfortable with it. Amen.

Lol you think say na me you dey do? The phone I use to play Call of Duty Mobile will feed, clothe and house you.

I'm telling you facts, you think say I be ASUU. Lmao no go think of wetin you go use life do. Be here dragging ASUU when your govt politicians have kids that are graduating from the UK and US every year. Mumu

Your biggest contribution to nairaland is sex chat, and measurement of dick size. Not money, not business, not schooling. Just sex. Nothing upstairs except how to come online and create threads about sex.

You deserve Nigeria, buffoon.

Queensee:
Foreigners are attracted to go seek job opportunities in a country with a stable economy, electricity.

Why will a foreigner want to come and suffer here?

Oga since you went to school and you are so smart. Give us a solution to good Electricity, how to balance the economy?

Because all you do is to make insults without saying anything reasona at the end

Lmfao you are just ranting like the child you are. All your politicians are sending their kids abroad and here you are giving yourself high BP over something that one signature from your president will end lmao.

You like suffering, don't worry. When you graduate, let's see the problems your papa go fit solve at a national level.

I'm sure you have graduates in your house. What have they contributed to making the world a better place? The world even far... What have they done to make your street a better one? If Dem go check now, Dem pay for project writing and had more D's and Es than As and Bs.

Lmfao asswipe.

Queensee:
It shall not be well with UTAS

IT SHALL NOT BE WELL WITH ASUU!!!

No worry lmao. You never stay house reach. Shebi na ASUU be your problem and not the govt.

Try look for work or go to a private school. Tell your friends the same thing, cos this time, e go choke Wella.

If you don't like it, ask govt to sack everyone

[quote author=Queensee post=115148424]You forgot the No.1 "UTAS".

The only reason why students are still at home is because the government will not give you people UTAS.

STOP PRETENDING [/quote
You are just capping my dear.

I doubt you have read the agreement they signed with the govt to know why the strike persists.

You do not even know how UTAS works, nor IPPIS. You, like a lot of young people, just read whatever they put in front of you without asking questions.

Is it UTAS that will build new libraries, better classrooms, buy modern equipment for labs, or increase salary?

Smh.

Queensee:
What are the progress that you have made since the past 5 months that have not been previously planned?

Because you people act as if the strike will miraculously end all of your problems?

List how many of your demands has been met?

When your chairman is clamouring UTAS up and down

Aunty, it seems you do not realize that before you see strike, there must have been a lot of back and forth from govt and ASUU. You think they just wake up and strike? Hehehe God abeg.

Ok so wait, because they haven't met the demands, ASUU should call off the strike and go back to class because you want to graduate abi?

Isn't that foolishness? Give us an option that will work on govt other than strikes. I'm waiting.


They've talked. Severally

Sent letters. So many times.

Held meetings where govt will not show up, or will send one assistant to come and address ASUU.

So abeg, drop options let's look at them together.

Queensee:
Do they enjoy job security?

Do they enjoy pensions?

Are they recongised by the government?

If you find their salary attractive, why not resign and go for work for a private body and see if the grass is truly greener on the other side

They enjoy job security.

Lol, they enjoy pensions.. I wonder why youd think a university that pays tax to the govt cannot or will not make provisions for pensions hehehehe

Lastly, they are well recognized by govt. They attend seminars, workshops, conferences, and other things enjoyed by lecturers in the public space. There is literally nothing that separates them other than salary and terms of service. Look it up.

teepain:
Read my post again, this time, calmly. I never stated that the DSA said strike doesn't work. Rather I stated that I was the one who suggested to him that the many strikes undertaken by ASUU have not been effective. This response is only made to ensure that you do not quote me out of context.

As regards your other submissions, I am not here to debate with you who I know or do not know.



Kindly treat people you don't know personally with some respect. If you opine that a DSA is a spirit that cannot be known then that is fair enough and you are entitled to that opinion.

Thanks.

I read it the second time and see the point you were trying to make. I'll concede that. I'm not too haughty to not know when I'm wrong. However telling lecturers not to strike when you aren't bringing any viable options to the table is hogwash in my opinion. Before this strike, ask your DSA friend how many times ASUU sent letters, reminders and memos which government ignored blatantly without saying a thing.

So when they have exhausted all means of dialogue what do you think is next?

Strike is never the first option for ASUU. Get it down as facts coming from who knows. It is usually the last option and it takes agreement from all universities under the union to agree to a strike.

s4short:
Strike is what killed primary and secondary school education in Nigeria, very soon ASUU will also use strike to kill tertiary education, in the next few years there will be more private than public universities and even the poor will be borrowing to attend private schools just to avoid the plague that is ASUU, the biggest threat to public education in this country is ASUU strike that is why private schools always advertise by saying no ASUU strike.

Hopefully the next Government has the will to stop this madness, how can one group of people be holding the whole country to ransom, if every sector decides to behave like them will they be able to survive in the country?

I actually blame the true intellectuals and academias in the university who truly love education, don't support the antics of ASUU but yet have abandoned the Union for opportunist who don't care about education.

You don't have sense and it shows. The strikes of the teachers in the 2000s is what gave them the benefits they are enjoying today. They stood toe to toe with Obasanjo and came out victorious at the end. Today, they earn relatively well because of it.

Just be typing nonsense in the name of commenting. So the schools without good classrooms and adequate chairs, tables and writing materials was caused by strikes?


My God, where did you go to school please??.

Franklyspeakin:
I am an lecturer and osadeke is a colleague in the same university. I taught his daughter. I am telling you what I know. If you know how annoying being a lecturer is in Nigeria. I am planning to live this country once and for all. I am also running my p.g program and though I'm tired of the strike because its delaying me. But I support it because if not for my side business, the salary paid is peanuts.

Leave them to argue blindly. They think lecturers are earning millions every month and want more money.

For every 10 cars you see lecturers drive, 8 are from loans and cooperatives. They can't save to buy a car, but here we are arguing that they shouldn't worry about salary but just dey teach empty headed students who spend more time having sex and smoking weed than reading.

Shebi cutoff Is now 140? Lmfao the best of the olodos are coming to the university now lmao

CzarChris:
This statement is nothing but a failed attempt to white wash a failed government. A country where a professor earns 335k monthly as salary? Even with regular publications in journals both local and international? No provisions are made for research grants, so you do your research from your own pocket. Suffice it to say that Nigerian lecturers are one of the least paid in Africa. I wonder why ASUU is even fighting for revitalization funds. Let them continue giving lectures to 3000+ students in 500capacity halls, let students get to the point where they have to get lectures under trees, since they can't afford the luxury of paying millions to private universities. Let our laboratories remain obsolete and in the stone age while the world continues to advance technologically. Let just fight for their salaries and allowances which a few billions will take care of and leave the Nigerian students from poor homes to their fate.

Are you happy now?

That should be the goal tbvh. Doctors stopped fighting for better equipment and started fighting for better pay which they got. Now, at least they are earning a bit more than before, and hospitals are still very bare as always.

More money for them, no problem.

Let ASUU do same. Just pay them higher salaries, If you like no build schools. Period.

BabaO2:
Were you forced to take up the job, cant your degree fetch you jobs in oil companies/ best paying jobs in the country? olodo oshis forming elites.

I thought you said nobody is earning 120k? What changed for you, fool? Why are you countering the proof I showed you? Asinine lizard.

This is why you're busy checking how much NEPA is deducting from your small 2500 every month lmao.

Why aren't you working there at an oil company? All of us should just go there now, so we will all be earning more money, buffoon.

Stick to asking why you aren't getting rollovers for your 2500 recharges and other petty, mundane things that you worry about and don't comment on what you don't know. Ode Omo

teepain:
Sadly, I once shared with a friend who is a Dean of Student Affairs in one of the federal universities, that the constant strikes by ASUU do not help the students and our tertiary education.

Whilst it is within the rights of the lecturers to demand for more funding, they have not displayed enough accountability and probity in the way that they handle internally generated revenues.

Again, if FG must continue to subsidize tertiary education then there may be a need for students to sign bonds that will compel them to work in Nigeria for a certain number of years before migrating to other countries. It makes no sense when people get subsidized education and then bail out. It is like haemorrhaging.

Your statement is giving enormous lies, but continue lol. Which dean of students affairs you sabi? Which dean that is in charge of the running of the school with the knowledge of how tedious it is in terms of finance will tell you strike doesn't work?

Just dey lie because you dey behind keyboard. Lol

Calm down sir Liesalot.

texazzpete:
Only in Nigeria do you see students VERY content with Preserving shoddy education, all in the name of graduation at all costs. It doesn’t matter if your university doesn’t have good infrastructure or decent halls. It doesn’t matter if your labs are terrible. It doesn’t matter if your school has to make do with Terrible lecturers because welfare sucks.

Instead of calling the FG to order, you’re busy attacking lecturers. No wonder politicians see people like the OP as their ‘boys’ to play with.

.for them, let ASUU just resume so they can graduate, and go and work start earning a living.
When you offer them 100k jobs, they will turn thier noses and say it's not enough, but the one lecturers are collecting is very ok as long as they don't strike.

Animals everywhere

adanny01:
You have not said 1 thing I will agree with you.

Tell me one agency of government that is working the way we expect? Does ASUU expect that govt will prioritize them over the entire responsibilities of the govt?

ASUU are teachers as well as those who teach in primary and secondary schools. The demands by ASUU in comparison to all other civil servants that depend on government is simply outrageous. If every civil service union behaves like ASUU, govt will never be able to solve the issues with the current state of the economy.

Besides, in saner climes, government does not foot every bill of tertiary institutions. ASUU shouldn't have the moral audacity to hold the tertiary system to ransom if they know that it's not a right for them to be treated above the reasonable means of the govt. Govt is simply doing it for the sake of the very students ASUU has no regard for. Govt funding of the tertiary institutions is a responsibility it has to provide education for citizens of Nigeria. ASUU successfully kidnapped that responsibility for ransom. It's a bad thing. No excuses.

In saner climes like you mentioned, they pay lecturers very well lmao. Not the peanuts they are paid here. You must be foolish to think the govt cares about students the way ASUU does. The little improvements you see in universities was fought for by ASUU. Left to govt, build the school and let it rot will be the order of the day.

If they ask students to pay school fees of 200k to foot the bill of the schools, students will riot. So where will schools see money to run themselves when govt doesn't intervene?

Make una dey type with sense abeg

BabaO2:
Ode
No university lecturer ever earning such paltry sum of 120k as salary, they didn't kill anybody's child, if you know nothing about their salaries you keep it shut. Secondary school teachers are earning well over 400k, dont confuse masses with your limited understanding.

When I say people should do research before they talk, you're a good example of it.

How many secondary teachers are even earning 100l after tax? You will just open your dirty mouth and say what you don't know. Stupid keyboard warriors who have never had to defend anything in their lives will come online and yarn bants.

There you go. That's what an assistant lecturer earns below.

The difference between that and a senior lecturers is not even up to 100k. Don't be a fool. Salaries isn't hidden. Go online and check for yourself. Asswipe.

E say teachers dey earn 400k lmao. Buffoon

coputa:
The owners of private schools are insensitive to the plight of their teachers.Most of the teachers are not well paid even as graduates yet they're treated shabbily,how then do you expect them to put in their best.The owners of the schools collect the complete fees for the full academic year comprising of three terms but they wont pay the teachers their augaust salary.this is not fair,why are they finding it difficult to pay.

I think they should hold on to the money for as long as possible and not pay. Teachers have no right to complain about salaries the way lecturers in universities shouldn't complain.

Oga work and don't complain. When salary comes, it comes lol.

I really hope they hold that money till you choke and kpai. Mumu

muykem:
Private schools are paying lecturers less with better output compared with public universities. ASUU is SCAM and greedy, they are known for strike from one government to another.

Assistant lecturers earn between 250-320k in private schools. The equivalent in public schools earn between 125-140k.

Which is more? DYOR before you come online to disgrace who gave birth to you.

BabaO2:
ASUU are so irresponsible greedy set of people, a competent president would have flushed them out and employ new set of lecturers from private sectors as part-time lecturers, foreigners both from African countries and western word countries.

Lmfao your childish brain cannot even do the simple math of how much you want to pay foreign lecturers and even part timers.

Is it the 120-400k you want to pay a foreigner to come and teach in a country riddled with bad governance and insecurity?

Mehn, did you even go to school?

MagnoIia:
you're such a daft fellow

You're dumber than him by far if you cannot see the sense in what he is saying.

Asswipe.

Nazgul:
1. As a nation we have to get our priorities right if we really want to develop technologically. A quick check on the budgetary allocation for education sector over the years clearly reveals that the figures allocated to education is so paltry that one can hardly achieve anything with it. It is against this backdrop that I am recommending that henceforth, the education sector should be allocated a reasonable share of our annual budget.

2. Education is capital intensive, therefore the Federal Government cannot do it alone. I would therefore recommend that Alumni Associations support and offer endowments as it is done in other climes. And also in the areas of infrastructural development through the provision of adequate potable water, regular power supply, world-class lecture theatres, hostels, functional laboratories...etc.

3. It is imperative that salaries and welfare packages of university lecturers should be reviewed from time to time. In Peter Obi's interview with channels TV yesterday, he said something that touched me. He said the salary and allowance of a local government chairman is higher than a university professor. It's very sad, and you would agree with me that a situation whereby lecturers are on the same salary for over 13 years without increment does not augur well.

Finally I just have to agree with you that public universities in Nigeria if they must thrive, must be autonomous. But only when numbers 1-3 have been met and visible growth has been recorded in the institution. Anything outside that would spell doom for parents and students.

So you sabi all this and typed the first nonsensical bant from up there? Wonderful.

M

Nazgul:
Haven't you noticed that students are closer to their secondary school teachers than their university lectures upon graduation.

My secondary school old students association has a Facebook page of which I'm a member of, at the end of the year we usually hangout at designated locations, celebrate life and raise contributions for some of our teachers who are in need.

No one does that for university lectures because most of them are sadist, wicked, vengeful...etc. Also, most Nigerian lectures lack the ability to impact knowledge on their students. They teach with anger frustration, some are so lazy to keep up lecturing appointments with students that they just hand over course material to the course rep to photocopy for the students.

If you claim to be a parent, you must see every child you mentor in class as your child, and do everything within you ability to ensure that they get the best from you. That's what every good parents does. Unfortunately our lectures do the exact opposite.

Yeah, lecturers should keep getting paid peanuts and not ask for more money, as long as everyone goes to school and graduates. Wonder why you never see lecturers buy the best things or use the best products?

Wonder why this thread made it to front page. It reeks of very shoddy research and bias everywhere.


Nonsense.

khadaffi:
I'll drop my comment. Let me cough first


Edit
This issue had been previously overflogged here on NL. I think around 2010 or 2011, before that NL crash .

ASUU is another political organisation. I pity for any silly student that joins ASUU in castigating the government. I graduated in 2007 and before I graduated, every strike ASUU engaged in they kept saying they were fighting for student. And my questions has always been how? See I know my position is not the popular one but if we all sit down and apply common sense you will see the sense in what I'm saying. Now ask yourself, how many of these top ASUU chairman kids attends schools in Nigeria. If we are saying our leaders destroyed the country ASUU are among the leaders destroying Nigeria and the earlier Nigerians realise this the better. A Professor is a Nigerian leader, A VC is a Nigerian leader, etc

Now here is the crux of the matter. There is no reason why any of these civil servants (Doctors, teachers, journalists, Police, Army) should go on strike, I repeat no reason. In Nigeria however we have seen doctors going on strike abandoning patients who might even be on life support to die simply because government did not pay them enough. How crazy does that sound. It is also the same madness that has continually occurred in the teaching profession. Now I'm not holding brief for government. Nigerian government has been useless over the years to say the least. There is no civil servant that will tell you today that he/she is satisfied with what the government has done in their agency and praise the government. But how many of them do you see engaging frequently on strike? I want to use the Nigerian Army in this regard as a case study. These guys has never gone on strike even when it was clear that government bought fake bullet proof and all manner of nonsense that have been meted out on them. These guys are still on the job. It is not easy. It's not easy for anyone in this country and the least we would expect from unions is to alleviate or reduce the problem of the common man. My own humble submission is for government to either scrap the Union(ASUU) or they could make it in a manner that joining ASUU should not be mandatory. Rather there should be two or three recognised union where every staff can choose to join any and choose who and when you will pay your dues. The dues should not be automatic deduction from your salary. The Union are thieves and if NANS was still a credible union it should have engaged them seriously.

I expect to be insulted for this opinion though

You deserve to be insulted and you should be. Just open mouth waaa like without common sense.

You expect lecturers in 2022 with families to keep earning 120k a month to teach 5 times a week, and a professor to earn 400k after more than 49 years in service.

You're a buffoon and I'm really been nice with the insult.

Asswipe.