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swiz123:
So Ronaldo no care about 1000 goals because baba don see say Messi go still reach am

I don’t know why he just choose to make himself unhappy because of Messi.

Na people like Trevor and Odizeeey i pity, their Igala dun tell them say the 1000 goal they're holding on to is nothing.

Ibime:
What is your issue?

You left the crux of the argument to be arguing 100 or 200 years here or there. What importance is it to the debate? That's why I didn't answer you. The Hellenistic period is very close to the Babylonian-Persian period and both are very far away from the Moses period. How does it invalidate my argument about Moses except you want to muddy the waters with semantics?

Ibime:
You can't take oral histories seriously, especially when it's been a millennium before they put it into writing. That's like Romulus or Oduduwa story in Rome and Yorubaland.

You mention the bible says they went to the Philistines to buy iron, that means they know the difference between iron and bronze, so why attributing iron to the Canaanites? Secondly the Philistines came into the area a good 200 years after the so called Egypt migration which was the period they were supposedly fighting with the Canaanites with iron weapons. In addition, they even wrote that Abraham went to the land of the Philistine King who wanted to fvck Sarah and he had to disguise that Sarah is his sister. How does Abraham in 2000 plus BC be going to Philistine King when Philistines only migrated there around 1,200 BC? The oral histories are as false as my own Ijaw origin story.

They are Canaanites bruv. Surviving Canaanites from bronze age collapse dispersed from their Cities into the countryside and some of them over 500 years evolved into the Hebrews complete with language and Gods. They even remembered Baal the Canaanite storm God and the Northern Kingdom of Israel (ten tribes) worshipped him. That's because Baal is one of their Canaanite Gods along with Yahweh and El. Monotheism developed later and focused on only Yahweh, but 500 years later, after the so called Canaanites have disappeared, they still remember Baal to write about him and blame him for the sacking of the Northern Kingdom by the Assyrians, while combining Yahweh and El into a single deity.

afrodoc2:
Mostly in order.

2 corrections i would make:

1) Any historical Abraham as the great-grandfather of Joseph would be closer to 2000 BCE than 4000 BCE.

2) Most of the Hebrew Bible was written during the Babylonian and Persian periods rather than during the Maccabean period.

Jamiuokolaa:
Polling booth awards are irrelevant here. Performance(s) in the final is the koko

The facts at our disposal is that Messi Failed Argentina on numerous occasions and had to rely on Di Maria to bail them out in finals.

Messi has consistently let Argentina down when it mattered most (in finals) and without Di Maria, they were nothing.

#factos

Lol .. polling booth for Goal and assist abi na chancess created abeg talk another thing.

Messi outplayed everyone in that WC and he deserved every medal.

Sisi Maria was like another Alvarez and Enzo.

Jamiuokolaa:
Personal opinions are irrelevant here

From the empirical/factual evidence at our disposal, it is clear that Messi failed Argentina on numerous occasions and they had to rely on Di Maria to win trophies.

No Di Maria no Party

#Factsonly

Fact is Messi won Gball,scored in final,scored in penalty shootout,was Argentine's highest goal scorer and the tournaments highest assist provider also from empirical/factual evidence.

professionals looked at that,any other bruhaha and hogwash na personal opinion.😁

Sisi maria scored how many goals again to help his country in 22WC? Kikelomogbenga can help you out in this call a friend question.

#factsonly

Jamiuokolaa:
The most important criteria is performance in finals and from the evidence at our disposal, Argentina were nothing without Di Maria.

On the occasions where they relied on Messi, he failed them miserably

How come it was only Messi and not Di Maria?

Are you saying, FIFA, Balon D'Or,players,coaches and many sporting folks are yarning okoto or get eye problem and you Jamiu from IgboElerin is correct?

Spy360:
What are your sources?

The Canaanites were an established people already comprising majorly of the Hittites kingdoms. Besides the Israelites spent years in the wilderness - a no man's land.

While trying to discredit the Israelites you shouldn't distort biblical history.

Ibime:
I said most of the bible was cooked during the Maccabean/Greek era which is correct, and in my next post clarified that the earliest books are during the Babylonian era which is around 500 BC. That is a good 1000 plus years after Moses. But most books are Greek era

Jamiuokolaa:
When Di Maria was on the pitch, Argentina were leading comfortably via his goal and assist to Messi.

When he got subbed off, his teammates wobbled and fumbled to victory and had to rely on Martinez to rescue them.

Relying on Messi's GK stats in finals has always cost Argentina dearly.

No Di Maria no Party

So how come Messi still out scored him?

Di Maria should be winning something at least.

Jamiuokolaa:
When Di Maria was on the pitch, Argentina were leading comfortably. When he left, they had to rely on Martinez to bail them out with saves upon saves

Di Maria's contribution to the NT in finals is well documented .Without him, Argentina would have won nothing because Messi was always guaranteed to be useless in finals.

The facts are there for all to see . Lionel Akanmuade Messi aka Baba Thiago was a tag along who relied heavily on Di Maria's abilities.

I repeat - the greatest mistake Argentina made last WC was their inability to convince Di Maria to come out of retirement.

No Di Maria no Party

Much talk ,less points,Messi outscored Sisi Maria,yes or yes?

Martinez saved would have been useless had only Mbappe scored in that extra time, correct?

Kikelomogbenga:
You mean Martinez did it at extra or Messi was the one in goal .

Martinez scored?

Ibime:
On the issue of Tithe, the bible was made up during the Maccabean era of the Hellenistic period (circa 200 BC) which is the intertestamental period between the Old and New Testaments

There was never a man called Moses who wrote Laws, and the Israeli nation were never slaves in Egypt that needed leading out. They are aboriginal to the land of Canaan.

There was never a Levite tribe that needed supporting by Tithe and at the time the Bible was written, Samaria had already been diluted following the ethnic cleansing of the "lost 10 tribes" by the Assyrians 7 centuries earlier which includes the so called Levites.

This is a history being made up by Judah about a no longer existing Samarian practice and occured under the Maccabees. The part about tithe is to continue the funding of religious activities while paying tax to the Greeks separately.

AirBere:

All these one wey you dey do, you dey give penduist small voice, like something to hang on and get some copium.

However, reality on ground is that, the most diehard Penduist will never forget 2022 World cup, some will never forgive Kolo Muani. This is their reality. Their argument dey funny me eh.

Their banter tears is eternal. Too sweet 😋

I love teasing my meal.

Kikelomogbenga:
Sisi Maria left them at 2:0. A comfortable cushion to see off the victory after a goal and causing a penalty. If he had played the full game they would have been no extra time. You are even showing how important Di Maria was that they nearly collapsed without him. If he had not played that game we know what happened in 2014 and 2026 without him. Jamiuokolaa maybe right after all.

Nope Messi made sure the likes of you and Jamiu gat nothing on him, so he allowed the ball drag to extra where he did it without Sisi Maria.

andrewbaba44:
No go warm agbo drink

Lol... which one be warm agbo drink again?

AirBere:

Does he know?. Looking for objectivity on nairaland is like chasing the wind.

Lol... agenda wen be ashewo.

Kikelomogbenga:
How did he do it without Sisi Maria who caused the penalty and scored the 2nd goal ?

Maybe tension or hate made you off TV at 70min,go back and watch that final and tell me how Sisi Maria helped them in the extra time and Penalty shootouts.

Kikelomogbenga:
The two final he played without Sisi Maria we know how it ended. Both in tears

Yes 22Wc final made those ones inconsequential immediately.

He did it in style without Sisi Maria.

AirBere:

Ogunmepon is not respected by his kiddo teammates. If he can say the emboldened, then to avoid backlash and threats, he can create a parody account to say anything.

Cristiano Ronaldo is "no different" from the rest of the squad and is "just another player here to help.

Meanwhile, Penduist never believed the picture below. Eternal tears

We are done arguing with penduist ova here,we now compare prime Messi to his current self.

Jamiuokolaa:
The manager checked the records, saw that Messi ghosts in finals..then hurriedly starts an unfit di Maria to prevent humiliation as usual

The decision paid off as Di Maria provided a goal and an assist for Messi.

Di Maria retires and Messi sharply went back to his GK stats in finals (vs spain)

No di Maria no party for Argentina

Goal and assist that Mbappe immediately cancelled,Messi dominated that final,the most important final without Sisi Maria.

Any other final na wash.

Sportsweb:
This is a fake account hope you know?

Agenda doesn't know right and wrong or fake and real.

Jamiuokolaa:
The only thing Messi did without Di Maria was to post his normal GK stats in WC and Copa America finals.

The coach learnt his lessons, hence his decision to start an unfit Di Maria at the 2022 WC final - a decision that yielded the desired results

No Di Maria no party

Messi scored before and after Sisi Maria in the final yes or yes?

Messi dragged with prime Mbappe in the final without Sis Maria yes or yes?

Messi and Mbappe shared the Gball and Gboot while Ave Maria was the on bench rethinking his life choices yes or yes?

Jamiuokolaa:
The most important criteria is performance in finals and we have seen that Messi keeps clean sheets whenever Di Maria no dey.

No Di Maria no party

Messi score abi he no score?

Di Maria Chickened out abi he no chicken out?

Messi did it without Sisi Maria abi he no do am?

Messi won Golden ball abi e no win am?

Ya Di Maria agenda is DOA egbon.

andrewbaba44:
Make Jorge Jesus come talk about how you be Pele and maradona level player

Bro this guy ma everything e Dey force 😂😂

Force himself for goat debate while he is below the likes of pele and maradona

Jamiuokolaa:
Mandzukic didnt win anything tangible with his country, neither did he influence finals the way di maria did for Argentina whenever Messi ghosted as usual with his GK stats.

No di Maria, no party

So why didn't Di Maria win Golden boot or ball?

Nemesis0147:
I don’t understand
Messi scored twice in 2022 wc final na

Allow Jamiu's agend.

Jamiuokolaa:
Instead of you to allow the man enjoy his send forth in peace, you have decided to remind us of his numerous clean sheets in finals when Di Maria no dey..

You no dey taya for Messi drags?

Captaining a country to win a WC whilst receiving Golden ball is greater than just scoring in the final,if you doubt ask Igala and his fans . Otherwise Mario Mandzukic would have been goated just for scoring in the WC final.

Jamiuokolaa:
Damage control - ogunmepon know say him don fvck up badly in the last 1 week.

Desperado trying to prove fair play wey no dey

AirBere:

You see this Messi r@cist talk, I just dey observe people dey laugh because I'm still waiting for one sweet agenda to blossom.

Bookmark, I'll be back on this matter in due time. 😉 😜

No place you fit use hold Messi. Jamiu was close with his Di Maria agenda,but WC tell am pause.


Even PSG wen people say he flopped dey post am pass Barça,am disappointed in my club FR.

Nemesis0147:
don’t mind those guys