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Foreign Affairs › Re: How US Sailors Eat, Sleep & Get Paid On The 2026 Iran Mission | USS Abraham Linc by BornofGod108(op): 9:20pm On Aug 20
nedekid:
Op thinks some of us are so jobless or have little useful use of time to read such crap of how American colonizers, war criminals live on their ships, for all I care that ship could be at the bottom of the ocean or even a swimming pool.
How fies life in their ship concern millions of Nigerians struggling with life after the desaster at aso rock has driven citizens to penury?
Bro, you're free not to be interested in the post, but that's not the point. I'm addressing the misinformation and viral claims surrounding the USS Abraham Lincoln by comparing them with publicly available information. If the topic doesn't interest you, you can simply skip it. Nobody is forcing you to read it. As for Nigeria, there are plenty of discussions about Nigeria on this forum too. One thread about US Navy operations doesn't mean I'm ignoring Nigeria.
Foreign Affairs › Re: How US Sailors Eat, Sleep & Get Paid On The 2026 Iran Mission | USS Abraham Linc by BornofGod108(op):
More pictures from the aircraft carrier

Foreign Affairs › How US Sailors Eat, Sleep & Get Paid On The 2026 Iran Mission | USS Abraham Linc by BornofGod108(op): 3:30pm On Aug 20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHDGoaiQ5A?si=9o1tKpMChRzyVL-V

How US Sailors Eat, Sleep & Get Paid On The 2026 Iran Mission | USS Abraham Lincoln

1/ Introduction

A lot of videos/photos have been circulating about the USS Abraham Lincoln since it was redirected to the Middle East in January 2026.

Some claim "sailors are starving", "ship abandoned", "multiple suicides".

So I decided to break down how these 5,000+ Sailors and Marines are actually being supported during an 8+ month deployment and combat operations.

All photos I'll post are from official US Navy DVIDS/public sources from this deployment.

2/ Why Lincoln is there

Lincoln left San Diego on Nov. 21, 2025, for a normal Indo-Pacific deployment. It made a scheduled port call in Guam on Dec. 11.

In January 2026, as US-Iran tensions rose, the carrier was diverted from the Pacific to CENTCOM.

It entered the Middle East on Jan. 26.

Operation Epic Fury began Feb. 28.

That means an unplanned 8+ month deployment, with more than 200 consecutive days without a normal port visit. That's tough.

3/ Food: Are they starving?

Short answer: There is no confirmed evidence that the entire crew is being systematically starved.

Carriers receive supplies while underway through replenishment-at-sea operations and other logistics missions.

Lincoln has conducted multiple documented replenishments with USNS Henry J. Kaiser, Yukon, John Lewis, Carl Brashear and other support ships.

However, sailors' families have reported periods of food and supply shortages, including rationing and shortages of some basic items.

The Navy disputes the more severe descriptions and says food and essential services remain available.

So: food/supply problems have been reported, but "5,000 sailors are starving" is not an established fact.

4/ Housing, Health & Daily Life

- Sleep: "Racks" — multiple bunks, often stacked three high, with curtains. Limited privacy, but that's home for months.

- Work: Long and rotating shifts. The carrier operates around the clock, especially during combat operations.

- Medical: Medical and dental personnel and facilities are available onboard. Serious cases can be evacuated when necessary.

- Mental health: Medical professionals, chaplains and other support services are available. But more than 200 days without a normal port visit, combat operations and separation from family create genuine mental and emotional strain.

- Gym, laundry, internet: These facilities exist onboard, although access and availability can vary during operations.

5/ Pay & Benefits

Sailors continue receiving their normal military pay while deployed.

Depending on rank, years of service and individual eligibility, they may also receive additional benefits such as:

Base pay + Sea Pay + Imminent Danger Pay + applicable combat-zone tax benefits.

The exact amount varies from sailor to sailor, so there is no single salary figure for everyone aboard Lincoln.

Mail and care packages can also be moved to the ship through the Navy's logistics system.

6/ The Viral Claims — What's confirmed vs not

- Man overboard, Aug. 3: Confirmed. A sailor went overboard and was recovered alive.

- "Multiple sailors jumped": Families and military media have reported multiple attempted overboard incidents, but the Navy disputes claims of a broader spike in suicidal behavior. Not every reported incident has been independently confirmed.

- "Starvation meal photos": Viral photos should be checked carefully. A photo circulating online does not automatically prove it was taken aboard USS Abraham Lincoln during this deployment.

The important thing is to separate confirmed incidents, reported allegations and social-media rumors.

7/ Relief is Coming

Good news: USS George Washington (CVN-73) is now in the Middle East with a new carrier strike group and is expected to relieve Lincoln.

Lincoln's deployment has lasted far longer than a normal carrier deployment, and the crew has spent more than 200 consecutive days without a normal port visit.

After months of combat operations and life at sea, the Lincoln crew has earned a break.

8/ Conclusion

Conditions aren't perfect. It's hot, cramped, stressful and extremely demanding.

But "tired and stressed" does not automatically mean "abandoned and starving."

At the same time, legitimate concerns about food, supplies, living conditions and mental health should not simply be dismissed.

The US Navy's logistics system is designed to keep carriers operating at sea, even during combat.

These sailors deserve facts, not rumors or political ammunition.

They're doing a hard job far from home, so I figured we should understand what life aboard the carrier actually looks like.

What do you guys think? Would you last 200+ days at sea?

Foreign Affairs › Re: UAE Stops all Trade With Iran, Cutting Off Multi-billion Economic Lifeline by BornofGod108(op): 2:55pm On Aug 20
Two Chinese state-controlled shipping companies have stopped sending oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz and Bab al-Mandab, instead loading crude outside the Persian Gulf amid heightened security risks, Reuters reported on Tuesday, citing industry sources and shipping data.


https://iranintl.com/en/202608184388

Foreign Affairs › Re: UAE Stops all Trade With Iran, Cutting Off Multi-billion Economic Lifeline by BornofGod108(op): 2:04pm On Aug 20
🇺🇸 AMERICA JUST MOVED ONE OF ITS BIGGEST WARSHIPS INTO THE MIDDLE EAST — AND THE TIMING MATTERS.

U.S. Central Command says sailors aboard the USS George Washington (CVN-73) are operating in the Arabian Sea as the carrier transits the region.

The George Washington Carrier Strike Group arrived in the CENTCOM theater on August 19 and is now conducting a scheduled deployment in the Middle East.

Foreign Affairs › UAE Stops all Trade With Iran, Cutting Off Multi-billion Economic Lifeline by BornofGod108(op):
Iran just lost it's biggest economic lifeline as the UAE just severed all trade and financial transactions with Tehran. The UAE says the freeze remains in place "until further notice" after accusing Tehran of firing ballistic missiles toward maritime traffic.

The move threatens to close an economic route that U.S. sanctions struggled to reach for years and further deepens Iran's isolation amid a deadlock in negotiations between Tehran and Washington.

President Donald Trump declared no talks are underway or planned and posted a map labeling the Strait of Hormuz a "NEW U.S. Territory."

Full story here ➡️ https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iran-loses-key-economic-lifeline-in-middle-east-that-trumps-sanctions-couldnt-reach-as-deadlock-persists

Nlfpmod mynd44 Dominique

Foreign Affairs › Re: US Opens Secret Oil Route Through Hormuz, Moves 10 Million Barrels Daily - Axios by BornofGod108(op): 8:53am On Aug 20
🚨 New from President Trump

Foreign Affairs › Re: US Opens Secret Oil Route Through Hormuz, Moves 10 Million Barrels Daily - Axios by BornofGod108(op): 10:37pm On Aug 19
This is a major development, because if the U.S. can sustain that 10-million-barrel-per-day flow despite Iranian opposition, Iran's ability to use Hormuz to choke the global oil market would be significantly reduced.
Foreign Affairs › US Opens Secret Oil Route Through Hormuz, Moves 10 Million Barrels Daily - Axios by BornofGod108(op): 10:14pm On Aug 19
US Military Establishes Secret Shipping Corridor Through Strait Of Hormuz, Moves 10 Million Barrels Of Oil Daily

The United States military has quietly established a shipping corridor through the Strait of Hormuz, allowing millions of barrels of oil to reach global markets despite the ongoing war with Iran, according to a report by "Axios", citing two US officials.

The operation has reportedly been underway for several weeks, with between 15 and 20 oil tankers passing through the strategic waterway each day using a southern channel along Oman's coast.

US officials told Axios that approximately 10 million barrels of oil per day are currently moving through the corridor — about half the volume that passed through the Strait of Hormuz before the war.

The US military is reportedly helping empty tankers enter the Gulf from the Arabian Sea, where they load oil from countries including the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Kuwait, before being guided back through the strait.

The operation is being overseen by a US military task force based at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, according to the report.

US officials said the operation was made possible after a recent two-week US Central Command campaign weakened Iran's radar and maritime-surveillance capabilities, making it possible for tankers to move through the southern channel with reduced risk.

One US official claimed that the United States has effectively controlled the southern lane of the Strait of Hormuz for about two months, although Iranian forces remain capable of posing a threat to shipping.

US President Donald Trump also confirmed that significant amounts of oil are continuing to leave the Strait of Hormuz, saying there is a “tremendous amount of oil” coming through the waterway.

However, the situation remains highly uncertain. While Washington says the strait is open, Iran continues to maintain that shipping through the waterway remains restricted. Reuters reported on August 19 that only six commodity vessels had crossed the strait on Tuesday, significantly below normal traffic levels.

The Strait of Hormuz is one of the world's most important energy routes, carrying a significant share of global oil and liquefied natural gas shipments. The reported US corridor could therefore help reduce the impact of the disruption on global energy supplies, even though normal commercial shipping has yet to fully resume.
https://www.axios.com/2026/08/19/hormuz-iran-oil-gulf-trump

Foreign Affairs › Re: Tehran Gas Stations Run Dry As Iran Faces Growing Fuel Shortage by BornofGod108(op): 8:37pm On Aug 19
Former Iranian President Mohammad Khatami has strongly backed the Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding signed by US President Donald Trump and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian, warning that Iran could face serious problems if the opportunity created by it is lost.


"If we lose the opportunity created by the memorandum, we will face extraordinary problems," Khatami said. "This memorandum has no parallel."

https://iranintl.com/en/202608194045

Foreign Affairs › Tehran Gas Stations Run Dry As Iran Faces Growing Fuel Shortage by BornofGod108(op): 6:20pm On Aug 19
Tehran Gas Stations Run Dry As Iran Faces Growing Fuel Shortage

Tehran, Iran — Several petrol stations in parts of Tehran reportedly ran out of gasoline on Wednesday, August 19, with some stations closing completely while motorists at others faced queues of up to an hour.

According to Iran International, residents reported visiting multiple petrol stations only to find them closed or displaying notices that gasoline was unavailable. Others said they had to wait for extended periods to refuel.

The shortages come amid growing concerns that the Iranian government could increase gasoline prices as the country struggles with a widening fuel supply deficit.

Iran's Energy Efficiency Organization has estimated that the country is currently facing a gasoline shortage of around 14–15 million litres per day.

A member of Iran's parliament Economic Committee, Hossein Samsami, warned that raising fuel prices under the country's current economic conditions could trigger widespread unrest.

Meanwhile, there are reports that traffic police in Tehran have been targeting older vehicles and motorcycles in an effort to reduce fuel consumption. A resident claimed some older vehicles were being impounded for up to a month, although the report could not independently verify the claim.

Iran's fuel shortage has also been worsened by disruptions to fuel imports amid the ongoing US naval blockade of Iranian maritime traffic.

In response, Iran is reportedly exploring the use of methanol-blended gasoline to increase domestic fuel supplies. Vahid Ghanei-Fard, CEO of Persian Gulf Star Refinery, said a pilot project using gasoline containing about three percent methanol had been successful and met national and international standards.

He said the refinery's daily gasoline production had reached approximately 49 million litres.

However, Iranian refinery expert Saadatollah Molavi cautioned that methanol-based gasoline would only provide a temporary solution unless the country addresses concerns surrounding production costs, efficiency, gas consumption and infrastructure.

There are also concerns over the quality and safety of the fuel, particularly its potential impact on vehicles and public health.

The latest developments come as Iran continues to grapple with a serious energy and economic crisis, with shortages, rising demand and disrupted imports putting additional pressure on the country's already strained fuel system.
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202608196868

Foreign Affairs › Re: To Survive Trump's Maximum Pressure, Iran Kept Pumping And Broke It's Oil Compan by BornofGod108(op): 6:12pm On Aug 19
Gas stations in parts of Tehran closed after running out of fuel Wednesday, while motorists elsewhere in the Iranian capital waited up to an hour to fill their tanks amid mounting fears of a fuel price hike, locals told Iran International.
https://iranintl.com/en/202608196868

Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Says Hormuz Blockade Remains In Full Force And Effect; No Talks With Iran by BornofGod108(op): 7:00pm On Aug 18
Preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon remained the United States’ top goal, US President Donald Trump said on Monday.

“The number one Goal is, and always will be, that Iran cannot have, in any way, shape, or form, a Nuclear Weapon,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

https://iranintl.com/en/202608173577

Foreign Affairs › Trump Says Hormuz Blockade Remains In Full Force And Effect; No Talks With Iran by BornofGod108(op): 5:42pm On Aug 18
US President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that no conversations were taking place with Iran and none were scheduled, adding that the naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz remained “in full force and effect.”

“The Hormuz Strait is open and operating. All water mines have been removed or detonated,” he added in a post on Truth Social.

https://iranintl.com/en/202608184054

Foreign Affairs › Re: To Survive Trump's Maximum Pressure, Iran Kept Pumping And Broke It's Oil Compan by BornofGod108(op): 5:33pm On Aug 18
US President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that no conversations were taking place with Iran and none were scheduled, adding that the naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz remained “in full force and effect.”

“The Hormuz Strait is open and operating. All water mines have been removed or detonated,” he added in a post on Truth Social.
https://iranintl.com/en/202608184054

Foreign Affairs › Re: To Survive Trump's Maximum Pressure, Iran Kept Pumping And Broke It's Oil Compan by BornofGod108(op): 8:04am On Aug 18
Iran Has Issued The Trump Administration An Ultimatum After Countless Threats & Stalling

According to a Reuters report, the ultimatum was communicated via Pakistan & Qatar, demanding that the U.S. must end its naval blockade and return to serious negotiations, or Iran will decide to go back to war.

Foreign Affairs › To Survive Trump's Maximum Pressure, Iran Kept Pumping And Broke It's Oil Compan by BornofGod108(op):
Iran's National Oil Company is drowning in debt after years of trying to survive US sanctions, according to a new report.

While Donald Trump's "maximum pressure" campaign is usually measured by counting oil tankers and the falling rial, the real damage is showing up in Iran's budget: over $80 billion in debt tied to NIOC.


What Happened

On August 5, a state bank froze the accounts of the National Iranian Oil Company, NIOC, over about $1 billion owed to Iran's sovereign wealth fund. The debt was 2 years past due.

That wasn't all.
NIOC is also facing a separate $1.5 billion tax assessment that the company says it "simply cannot pay." Enforcement on that case was only stopped after the presidency intervened.

The $80+ Billion Debt Breakdown

Because NIOC does not publish audited accounts, the debt had to be pieced together from budget documents:

1. $63.5 Billion to Banks
This year's budget sets NIOC debt to the central bank and commercial banks at 55 billion euros, ~$63.5 billion.
This covers principal + interest on financing for oil and gas development. The line has been renewed every year since 2019 and appears as one sentence at the bottom of a budget table.

2. $17 Billion to Sovereign Wealth Fund
Iran's sovereign wealth fund, the National Development Fund, says NIOC is its largest debtor with $17 billion in unpaid loans.

Combined, that's more than $80 billion. No single official document lists it as one total.

Why It Matters

The law that is supposed to shield NIOC is also where its financial condition is exposed. With sanctions limiting exports and revenue, Iran kept pumping oil to stay afloat, but the cost has been pushed onto NIOC's balance sheet and ultimately onto Iranians.

The August 5 account freeze shows that even state banks are now moving to collect, despite the political pressure to keep the oil industry running.

Source: Iran International - https://iranintl.com/en/202608153870

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Nlfpmod mynd44 Dominique

Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran Says It Reached Hormuz Deal With Oman, Reopening Hinges On End To US Blocka by BornofGod108(op): 7:13am On Aug 18
Iran Has Issued The Trump Administration An Ultimatum After Countless Threats & Stalling

According to a Reuters report, the ultimatum was communicated via Pakistan & Qatar, demanding that the U.S. must end its naval blockade and return to serious negotiations, or Iran will decide to go back to war.

Foreign Affairs › Iran Says It Reached Hormuz Deal With Oman, Reopening Hinges On End To US Blocka by BornofGod108(op): 12:34am On Aug 18
Iran and Oman have agreed on a safe route for ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz over the past three weeks of talks, Foreign Ministry spokesman Esmail Baghaei said Saturday.

Baghaei said discussions with Muscat were continuing on other issues, but the arrangement for safe shipping was separate.

He added that full security in the strait could not be restored while US maritime sanctions, military movements and a naval blockade remain in place.
https://iranintl.com/en/202608156799

Foreign Affairs › Iran's Lawmaker Says Gasoline Import Halted Under The US Naval Blockade by BornofGod108(op): 8:29am On Aug 16
Iran has effectively stopped importing gasoline because of the US naval blockade, parliament Energy Committee spokesperson Reza Sepahvand told ILNA on Saturday.

“Now that we are facing a naval blockade and gasoline imports have stopped,” Sepahvand said, warning that implementing the proposed national ID-based fuel allocation plan could later force the government to import gasoline at international and Persian Gulf FOB prices, raising costs and the budget deficit.

“We are facing problems supplying fuel given the number of vehicles,” he said.

Sepahvand said Iran was producing 130 million liters of gasoline a day, which he described as peak output, while consumption stood at 137 million liters.

“Even with all this, we are still facing a fuel-supply problem,” he said.
https://iranintl.com/en/202608154024

Foreign Affairs › Re: Now Is Best Time For US Deal, Iran Assembly Of Experts Member Says by BornofGod108(op): 1:24pm On Aug 14
Long gasoline queues formed in Zahedan, with one man saying he had been waiting since 3:30 a.m. and was still in line at 7 a.m. to receive just 10 to 15 liters of gasoline, according to a video sent to Iran International.

Video link: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1630645991986619/?app=fbl

Foreign Affairs › Now Is Best Time For US Deal, Iran Assembly Of Experts Member Says by BornofGod108(op): 1:16pm On Aug 14
A senior Iranian official said on Friday that now was the best time for an agreement with the US and called for the previous Islamabad agreement between Tehran and Washington to serve as the basis for further talks.

Gholamreza Mesbahi-Moghaddam, a member of Iran's Assembly of Experts and Expediency Council, told state news agency IRNA that he "completely agreed" with President Masoud Pezeshkian's view that the current level of national unity made this the best time for an agreement.

"The agreement signed by the presidents of Iran and the United States should be the basis," Mesbahi-Moghaddam said, adding that it provided Iran with the gains it sought from the war.


https://iranintl.com/en/202608143276

Nlfpmod mynd44 Dominique

Foreign Affairs › US CENTCOM Debunks Viral Reports Of Suicides Aboard USS Abraham Lincoln by BornofGod108(op): 1:16am On Aug 14
BREAKING: US CENTCOM Debunks Viral Reports of Deaths and Suicides Aboard USS Abraham Lincoln

The United States Central Command, CENTCOM, has come out to debunk viral reports claiming that 7 Sailors died in a brawl aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier currently deployed in the Middle East.

In a statement released in the last few hours, CENTCOM described the reports as FALSE and said they are a "disservice to our men and women in uniform and their loved ones."

THE FALSE CLAIMS:

Over the past 48 hours, multiple media outlets reported that:
1. Seven Sailors died in a brawl aboard USS Abraham Lincoln, CVN 72
2. There has been a spike in suicidal ideations among crew members

THE FACTS ACCORDING TO CENTCOM:

1. No deaths recorded: No service members aboard the aircraft carrier have died.

2. One incident: The only incident was on Aug. 3 when one Sailor fell overboard but was "quickly and safely recovered."

3. High morale: USS Abraham Lincoln has maintained among the highest crew reenlistment rates of 84.4% of all aircraft carriers in the U.S. Navy.

4. Deployment stats: The Sailors and Marines have been at sea for over 260 days, completed 10,000 aircraft flights, and expended 1.5 million pounds of ordnance.

CENTCOM said the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group "remain resilient and resolved" despite the long deployment.

The aircraft carrier has been one of the key US assets in the Middle East amid rising tensions in the region.

Source: US CCENTCOM

Foreign Affairs › Land Routes Cannot Replace Iran’s Blocked Sea Trade, Iran'chamber Official Warns by BornofGod108(op): 8:56pm On Aug 13
Replacing a single ship carrying essential goods to Iran would require about 2,500 trucks, a Chamber of Commerce official warned, saying land routes cannot offset the US maritime blockade and negotiations are the only realistic way to restore trade.

Davoud Rangi, vice chair of the chamber’s Import Management Committee, said Iran receives around 400 to 500 ships carrying essential goods each year, making any attempt to replace maritime imports with overland transport impractical.

“Mobilizing this number of trucks is far-fetched for us, and even if they were mobilized, transportation costs would rise sharply,” Rangi told Eghtesad News on Thursday.

He said Iranian authorities should not count on land corridors as a substitute for the country’s southern ports because neighboring states could restrict border traffic at short notice and the routes lack the capacity to handle the necessary volume of goods.
https://iranintl.com/en/202608138833

Foreign Affairs › Re: Iran's Oil Export Stops As US Blockade Idles Khard Island - FT by BornofGod108(op): 5:31am On Aug 08
Shipping and satellite data suggest the renewed US naval blockade has sharply reduced tanker activity around the island, which handles nearly 90% of Iran’s crude exports.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by BornofGod108(op): 5:16am On Aug 08
FSBoperator:
Save your weak lies for yourself

Trump and Hegseth crashed over weapons shortages.

Back at Camp David, as he was confronted by Trump over the bare weapons stockpile, Hegseth defended himself and blamed his deputy, Stephen Feinberg, for the shortages and for not ensuring Trump was fully apprised of the issue, both persons familiar said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/08/05/trump-hegseth-clashed-camp-david-over-iran-missile-depletion-concerns/
https://archive.is/H7xrt

So Oga rest
Bro calm down 😂 You’re quoting the article but twisting it.

That WaPo article you posted is about ammo logistics on Aug 5, not defeat. Every war burns missiles then re-orders. US budget is $1.5T in 2026. We’re still arming Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan + running 11 carriers.
Foreign Affairs › Iran's Oil Export Stops As US Blockade Idles Khard Island - FT by BornofGod108(op):
No tankers have loaded at Kharg Island, Iran’s main oil export terminal, for at least a week, the Financial Times reported Friday, citing shipping and satellite data providers.

Ship-tracking company Kpler and consultancy Energy Aspects said Kharg fell idle on July 31, while maritime intelligence firm Windward said all three loading bays had been empty for a sustained period.


https://iranintl.com/en/202608079838

Nlfpmod mynd44 Dominique

Foreign Affairs › Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by BornofGod108(op): 11:36pm On Aug 05
FSBoperator

I'm not using grok AI slop. Plain English. And you’re still dodging facts 😂


You called it "Operation Epstein Fury" to sound clever. US called it a limited strike. It ended.

1. Missile stock
Yes US fired a lot of interceptors. They cost more than Iranian drones. That’s how missile defense works. "Depleted" doesn’t mean "empty". 2026 US budget is $1.5T. US still arms Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and still has 11 carriers + 14 SSBNs. If we were "empty" we’d be closing bases. We’re not.

2. Naval blockade + Hormuz
If Iranians "control" the straits, why are oil tankers still moving every day? Why didn’t Iran close it after US hit their nukes? Because closing Hormuz = $200 oil and Iran gets bombed again. That’s not control. That’s fear.

3. Ground invasion
We agree. There was no plan for it. Mountains + 90M people = suicide. So don’t call it a "quagmire" when US never put troops in. You can’t lose a ground war you didn’t fight.

4. Israel + Gulf
Netanyahu talks tough. US still gives Israel Iron Dome, Arrow, and intel. Gulf bases in Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait are still open. 5th Fleet is still there. If US is a "weak protector", why haven’t the Gulf kicked US out?

5. War scoreboard
US: hit nuclear sites, 0 KIA, left.
Iran: got hit, survived, now doing proxy shots and denials.
No winner. No loser. Just no full war.[b]

You keep changing the topic because the first argument died.
Munitions → color revolution → Kurds → stocks → now "Grok AI slop".

Answer this straight: Did US strike Iran and leave without losing a ship or a base? Yes or no.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by BornofGod108(op): 11:24pm On Aug 05
FSBoperator:
There was no plan for a US Naval standoff or an invasion of Iran in Trump's plan.

He waged hard on the CIA/Mossad color revolution and his decapitation strikes on Iranian political and military leadership to end the regime and from there a power vacuum in Tehran that would naturally see to that country balkanizing along ethnic lines or falling into a protracted long civil war.

But the color revolution failed and when Trump began his decapitation strikes he was constantly begging Iranians to overthrow their govt.

But none of that happened and the last thing Trump and his Neocons ever factored was Iranian response which was wave after wave of missile and drone strikes on Israel and ever Gulf Kingdom state that the US launched their air strikes from.

So the US had to supply Israel with Patriot batteries and missiles alongside THAAD batteries designed primarily to take out ballistic missiles.

But these systems were so ineffective that they had an interception rate less than 15% and required at least 4-5 missiles to take out one Iranian ballistic missile.

Given the cost per unit of each interceptor compared to an Iranian missile that cost a fraction of what each missile interceptor cost, the US was bleeding it's missile arsenal that they decided to priorize protecting that parasite state over the Gulf Kingdom states that actually fund the US military.

So Hegseth is a liar.

The US is low on patriot missiles as well as their initially highly limited THAAD batteries and missiles that were designed solely to protect the US mainland and not Israel from Russian ballistic missiles.

As I said, there was no plan by the Neocons to even have a naval blockade over the straits of Hormuz talk more of a ground invasion because they believed too much on their color revolution setting things off .

One of the greatest tragedies in war is when a General constantly deploys the same winning tactic .

The saying "why change a plan if it's working " is what got the US into this mess because they believed too much on their color revolution that was successful in Syria and Libya.

There's never going to be a ground invasion because the US will bleed badly if they tried it because geography is not on their side when it comes to invading Iran. Those mountains are a real natural defensive asset to Iran .

If any of you think Trump is going to order a ground invasion, then ask why he hasn't done so against the Houthis in Yemen who also have terrain factor to their advantage.
Big essay to explain why nothing you predicted happened 😂

1. No invasion plan
Correct. US never planned to invade Iran. Mountains, 90M people, $1.5T war cost. No general is that dumb. Mission was always: hit nukes, degrade, leave. That’s what happened.

2. Color revolution + decapitation
If that was the plan and it failed, that’s Iran being competent, not US being "weak". Iran shut internet, arrested agents, rallied. Good for them. Doesn’t mean US lost a war we didn’t fight.

3. "15% interception rate + bleeding Patriots/THAAD"
US fired interceptors vs drones + cheap missiles. Of course the ratio is bad. $4M interceptor vs $50k drone will always look bad on paper. That’s why US budget is $1.5T in 2026 - to refill and to build cheaper lasers/hypersonics.
"Low on stockpiles" ≠ "out". US still supplies Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and still runs 11 carriers. Production is slow, not zero.

4. "Prioritizing Israel over Gulf"
US bases in Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait are still open. 5th Fleet still patrols. If US "bled out" protecting Israel, why are those bases untouched and Hormuz still open?

5. "No ground invasion because mountains"
Exactly. Which is why US didn’t try it. You can’t call it a "quagmire" and "impossible invasion" in the same breath. Pick one.

Bottom line: US plan was limited strike. Done.
Iran plan was survive + retaliate. Also done.
You’re mad the war didn’t turn into Iraq 2.0 or Libya 2.0. It didn’t. That’s not a US loss. That’s escalation control.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by BornofGod108(op): 11:19pm On Aug 05
FSBoperator:
Iran has constantly denied ever entering or requesting peace talks with the untrustworthy Trump WH.

Trump modus is to talk tough every Friday just after the market closes and by Monday morning before the markets open, spew lies that he is in talks with Iran and on the verge of signing a peace deal .

All this just to manipulate the market to make bank through insider trading and to douse any panic over a full blown war with Iran and to give the false impression that the straits will soon be open to traffic.

Trump even just launched a special app add on for his Truth Social that will require 100k monthly subscription to get info directly from him before he makes an official announcement .

This of course is just Trump trying his hands at selling info to his fellow market manipulators to either sell or buy crude futures depending on what nonsense bs he is set to announce.

The Democrats are already compiling this as one of too many of Trump and his family members insider trading.

The Orangutan and his entire family will soon run to Israel before impeachment notice are served on him by the incoming DNC majority Congress.

It's over for Zion Don, Israel and ZoG
Now we’re talking stocks instead of missiles? 😂 You ran out of war arguments

1. Peace talks
Iran denies, Trump claims. Classic. But oil didn’t hit $200, tankers are still moving Hormuz, and US isn’t bombing again. That only happens when both sides are de-escalating behind closed doors. Call it "talks" or call it "backchannel". Result is the same: no war.

2. Truth Social + insider trading
If Trump was making billions off oil futures, Dems would have impeached him yesterday. They’ve been "compiling" since 2016. Still 0 convictions. You can hate him, but "app subscription" isn’t a war outcome.

3. "Zion Don + Israel + ZoG is over"
US still has 11 carriers, 14 SSBNs, $1.5T budget, Al Udeid, Bahrain, UAE. Israel still has Iron Dome, Arrow, and US support. If it’s "over", why is nobody closing bases or pulling carriers?

4. War scoreboard
US: hit nuclear sites, 0 KIA, left.
Iran: took hits, survived, now doing proxy shots and denials.
Nobody won. But nobody lost a war either because nobody fought a full war.[b]

You keep moving goalposts: munitions → color revolution → Kurds → Gulf → now Trump stocks.
Stick to one: Did US strike Iran and leave with 0 losses? Yes.
Did Iran stop US from striking? No.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by BornofGod108(op): 10:54pm On Aug 05
FSBoperator:
The reason the US is in this quagmire is because they banked heavily on their color revolution to kick start things with their MSMs inflating it while Big Tech is used to rally the population to insurection


All that failed because the Iranians studied both the Libyan and Syrian uprising and how that led to a long grinding civil war.

The CIA and Mossad are getting really sloppy by recycling this same plan of using color revolutions to kickstart a civil war.

Iranians are not stupid and they saw the CIA and Mossad plan unfolding and did everything to end the inorganic revolution by taking out Mossad and XIA assets/agents and deporting Afghan and Indians from their country - whom the CIA was hoping on doing their dirty work.

Then the Kurds finally got sense to understand that it always ends bad for US proxies especially Kurdish ones.

The betrayal of the Kurds by the US in Iraq and Syria and how they were treated as dispensable especially with Turkey eventually using the Syrian war to destroy the PKK without the US lifting a finger .

There's also the case that the Kurds in Syria are now being ruled by same ISIS with full US recognition and backing that they(Kurds) fought against .

I don't see the Kurds wanting to be in anyway or form associated with the US anymore so when Trump sent them weapons and money to invade Iran and declare Kurdish regions as independent, the Kurds just took Trump's weapons and money and told him to go fck himself.

So no Kurdish proxies . The Arab minority who are Shia also are not ready to fight for ZoG after seeing what their Shia cousins in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia are being subjected to and know that the US and Israel will quickly impose a Sunni Arab monarch from the Gulf over them as was the case of the British creation of Shia Bahrain with a super minority Sunni monarch.

Also you must note that majority of the Sunni population in the Gulf Kingdom states are not in anyway in support of this war against Iran by their leaders .

They would have supported this war just as they did against Alawaite Syria under Assad or how they also supported Sunni ISIS backed by Israel and the US against Shia ruled Iraq.

Right now the Arab monarchies in the Gulf are more than likely to face a populist revolt among their own Sunni population for aligning with ZoG to wage war on a fellow Muslim country.

And these same Sunni population also understand that Iran is being attacked because of it's support for Palestinian liberation which their govts oppose and this same Sunni populace in the Gulf kingdom states are also aghast at their govts signing into the Abraham Accords .

The only ones now in facing a real threat to their power and continuity are the Gulf monarchies and their greatest fear is not just Iran but their own populace finally waking up and kicking them out.

No amount of US mercs can protect and keep the Gulf monarchs in power once their people revolt.

And when this happens , a real islamic theocracy/ govt similar to the Egyptian Brotherhood may emerge to replace the puppet monarchies or even far worse, a secularist Pan Arabic movement similar to the Baathist party may emerge which will spell doom for Israel .
Essay length and still avoiding the actual war 😂

1. Color revolution failed
Agreed. Iran studied Libya/Syria and shut it down early. Deported Afghans/Indians, jammed Starlink, arrested assets. That’s called a competent state. Doesn’t mean US is "weak". It means US didn’t invade.

2. Kurds + "US betrayal"
Kurds didn’t rise because US didn’t pay them to die for regime change. US gave them weapons for ISIS, not for Tehran. Of course they told Trump "no" to invading Iran. That’s smart, not proof US lost.

3. Arab Shia + Gulf Sunni
Gulf populations are angry at their leaders, true. But angry tweets ≠ coups. US still has Al Udeid, Bahrain, Al Dhafra, Kuwait. 5th Fleet still patrols. If monarchies were about to fall, US wouldn’t still be basing there.

4. "Quagmire"
Quagmire is Iraq 2003 with 150k troops on the ground for 8 years. This was: 2 weeks of strikes, 0 US KIA, then stop. That’s not a quagmire. That’s a hit and leave.

5. Abraham Accords + Palestine
You can hate the Accords. Doesn’t change that US hit Iranian nuclear sites and left. Iran is now doing proxy shots and talks because direct war is expensive.

Bottom line: Your whole argument is "US plan A failed so US lost".
Reality: US didn’t do plan A. US did plan B - strike nukes, degrade, exit. Mission done.

If Iran was winning decisively, they wouldn’t be in "peace talks" every Monday to keep oil under $100.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Report On US Missile Stockpile Depletion Is False - US War Sec Hegseth by BornofGod108(op): 9:11pm On Aug 05
FSBoperator:
The War was not supposed to last this long. At least not the standoff, long range bombing phase which has led to severe depletion of US Patriot and THAAD missiles.

There was supposed to be a color revolution, except the Iranians shut of the internet, triangulated or jammed all the starlink terminals, and rounded up the mossad/CIA agents. This was before the war actually kicked off, btw. A year before that, they deported something like 1 million Afghan nationals in the span of a month. Those Afghan migrants were supposed to be part of the 5th column to destabilize Iran.

There was also supposed to be an uprising from the Kurds on the Iran/Iraq/Syria border. The CIA armed and paid Kurdish militias and provided them with a battle plan. Except the Kurds just stayed home.

The decapitation strikes were supposed to leave Iran leaderless and demoralized. Except they had organized their military and government to be ready for just such an eventuality, and had the social technology of shia martyrdom to make their deaths a meaningful rallying point. Also, the Iranian regime turned out to be quite popular with the people, while killing a hundred school girls with the opening airstrike proved to be deeply unpopular with the locals.

The way this war was supposed to go was:
1. fake color revolution that got quashed immediately by Iran.


2. mass protests destabilize several Iranian cities to follow if 1 above had succeeded.

3. Iranian officials start getting assassinated or defecting which still didn't happen because 1 and 2 were a dud.

4. Mossad, CIA and special forces infiltrate and support these moderate resistance groups.

5. IRGC tries to crack down on things

6. Decapitation airstrikes, short 2-3 weeks of bombing campaign.

7. Kurds activate, run ops on their border

8. Turks mobilize to secure their border

9. More Iranian officers get assassinated or defect.

10. The ones who hold on are too busy dealing with color revolution protests and sabotage to launch missiles at Israel or US bases.

11. Various warlords start emerging to lead Iranian resistance factions.

12. Iran splits into several failed states

13. Millions of Iranian refugees suddenly appear heading to Europe because the country is now Libya 10.0

14. Total ZOG victory with US and Israel doing follow-up air strikes on whoever and whatever faction emerges to try to bring peace and order .


Now all of this above collapsed because the Mossad/CIA color revolution failed spectacularly.

Iran is supposed to be multicultural, multi ethnic and multi religious just as in Syria which will make any national front impossible when existential threats are being brought on it.

Iran was supposed to also be crippled by the US sanctions just as in Syria but Iran has it's own in-house technological and scientific solutions plus a lot of help from China.

China's support for Venezuela failed because those mullato Mezitos have no real culture nor civilization - a relic of a slave plantation filled with mystery meat mutts descended from slaves can not be compared to Persians with their over 3,000yr civilization.

If Iran was Nigeria, it would have capitulated within a week because of too many treacherous subservient people (especially from the SE) .

I recall with horror how these same treacherous people were going on SM celebrating Trump's threat to invade Nigeria.

Multiculturalism is a weakness as we can see with Syria and a zero civilization country like Venezuela is easy pickings.

We can learn a lot from Iran in how they kept their country together and more unified against a common enemy .
Big essay to say "the plan failed" and still blame everyone but Iran 😂

1. Color revolution + Kurds + Afghans
If CIA/Mossad had 5th column ready and Iran "shut it down in a year", that’s called good counter-intel, not US weakness. Iran survived because Iranians rallied, not because US forgot how to fight. You can’t claim "US is weak" and "US plan was perfect but Iran cheated" in the same paragraph.

2. Depletion of Patriot/THAAD
US fired interceptors vs drones and missiles. Expensive vs cheap. Production is slow, yes. But "depleted" doesn’t mean "empty". 2026 US defense budget is $1.5T. US still supplies Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and still runs 11 carriers + 14 SSBNs. Wars burn stockpiles. That’s why budgets exist.

3. Decapitation + popularity
US never did ground invasion. We hit nuclear sites and left. If killing "school girls" was the plan, US would still be there. We struck and stopped. Iran got more nationalist because people hate foreign bombs. That happens in every country.

4. "Iran should be Syria/Venezuela/Nigeria"
Iran has 3000yr state history, oil, mountains, and China/Russia backing. Syria didn’t. Venezuela didn’t. Nigeria didn’t. Comparing them is like comparing a bunker to a tent and calling the tent weak.

5. Endgame
Your 14-step plan didn’t happen because US didn’t attempt it. US mission was: degrade nuclear program. Done. Left.
Iran mission was: survive and retaliate. Also done.

So nobody "won". US showed it can strike and leave. Iran showed it can take a hit and stay together.

You can keep writing CIA fanfic.
Reality: 0 US KIA, 0 US bases closed, 0 carriers sunk.

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