Thank you CrownV12, I have sent an email to your gmail, please check out.
CrownV12: We have all these trailers present in Nigeria... I deal on Trucks so they are common sights to me... About the first one, trucks used by the european army are purchased and used for that purpose, for the second one, local companies like IPI build such body frames and attach to awaiting trailer heads while the cement truck is very common in Nigeria... Hope i have helped.. You can send direct messages if i can be of more assistance.
whirlwind7: I'm not sure what specific names they are called here. "Trailers" are the general term used for them. Pictures will serve to explain the specific trailer you are referring to when you try to contact potential buyers.
Thank you for your patient reply.
We have uploaded the company introduction video to youtube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79gH-xUjovM . But the video definition is too low. We will make more high-definition videos, thank you for your advice!
Can you contact me via WhatsApp +86-150-6472-2100, or email bruce@trailerexpot.com? I want to ask for your permission to post our conversations to other websites like facebook and linkedin. Because there is no facebook or linkedin share buttons on nairaland.
I will leave the original topic link, and if you want, your profile page link, or any contact info you want to include.
MRBrownJ: i feel what you are saying but the issue here is that you have to do business like the Chinese do... so 1st they will always try to sell you some 2nd rated product for the top prices, and 2nd you always have to bargain the price down, ALWAYS! this is like a way of life in China and if you dont haggle the price down then you will always be short changed. EVERYONE will try to overprice you (aka the "Laowai", every single one of them, whether you are buying a dvd at a street corner or the local suya... and you just have to accept that fact and be prepared for it.
and as i said earlier, if you cant speak Chinese then find someone who does, so that THEY can do business in China for you. in China, after sealing a big deal, the seller will normally entertain you with dinner and possible Karaoke (also known as KTV), nightclub or hookers. thats the China way!
"Stake trailer" is a direct translation from its Chinese name. Do you have a different name in Nigeria?
whirlwind7: Yes, Haulage and construction companies are spot on. I know the stake trailers are used by brewery companies to transport their products. One of the biggest here is Nigeria Breweries Plc.
About sending samples, this is quite true. But seeing how costly (financial and time wise) this could be, video presentations can help out.
we have such ttailers here in nigeria. the ist is very common here used mostly by dangote to deliver cements all over the country. also the 3rd one but for tje 2nd one also common used to deliver goods from the north to the south and west;east
Yes, these trailers are certainly found in Nigeria. The flatbeds are quite common though. Logistics and construction companies should be your target. You will require good marketing strategies too.
Thank you for your reply whirlwind7.
I am thinking of the marketing strategies. Several friends from Nigeria advice me ship several trailer samples to Nigeria, they say that Nigerian buy what they see. But the trailers are too expensive, the company does not agree to give samples to Nigerian companies for free.
I am just searching Nigeria haulage companies and sending them emails and make them calls. Thank you for your advice, I will try to find construction companies and contact them.
MRBrownJ: i feel what you are saying but the issue here is that you have to do business like the Chinese do... so 1st they will always try to sell you some 2nd rated product for the top prices, and 2nd you always have to bargain the price down, ALWAYS! this is like a way of life in China and if you dont haggle the price down then you will always be short changed. EVERYONE will try to overprice you (aka the "Laowai", every single one of them, whether you are buying a dvd at a street corner or the local suya... and you just have to accept that fact and be prepared for it.
and as i said earlier, if you cant speak Chinese then find someone who does, so that THEY can do business in China for you. in China, after sealing a big deal, the seller will normally entertain you with dinner and possible Karaoke (also known as KTV), nightclub or hookers. thats the China way!
Thank you for you prompt comment.
I am Chinese who is doing business with Nigeria clients and other other countries. I have to say you are very familiar with China, you must be in China more than one time. Lol.
About the 2nd quality products for 1st price thing, I feel we can clarify this issue into two parts.
1) The seller on roadsides or small shops
Yes, MANY of them are desirous of cheating foreigners, thinking they know very little of China. I see myself a scene on Qingdao sea shore, a foreigner who is bargaining the price of metal lighter with a roadside seller.
"How much?" Foreigner said. "50" answered the seller. "How about 5?" the foreigner bargained. "At least 10." the seller. "Ok! Deal!"
This still happens in China a lot. But it's changing in the meantime. More and more small businessman in China are realizing that foreigners are very smart, and give up this kind of "cheating". This is generally a phenomenon of the initial Open Up of a country.
2) Professional international purchasing
As to the international trade, the situation is very different. The international salesperson are dealing with professional buyers, who knows the products and the price level very well. If the sales person tries to charge 50 USD for a 10 USD value metal lighter. The buyer would laugh loud :"Are you kidding me?". The buyer would think that the salesperson is not trying to make deal, rather, he is just making jokes.
Of course, in the international business, the salesperson want to overprice their goods, too, but only to an reasonable extent. I think this happens in any where of the world, and maybe it's the nature of wholesale business. Unlike the retail business which has a uniform price, the price of wholesale business depends on a lot of factors, the quantity, methods of payment, delivery time, creditworthiness of the buyer, prior business dealing.
MRBrownJ: if China good is indeed cheaper in Lagos then someone is making a profit by importing it from China (unless you think people in Lagos are selling at a loss?)....so, importing from China IS profitable, you just need to have the right connection.
the problem here is that: A)there is different types of quality when you buy China goods. so an item could be made in 3 different quality and therefore have 3 different prices. in China there is the CHEAP version, the CHEAPEST version and the GREAT version of any product. so many people can receive a sample of the "great" version, and then be sent the "cheapest" version.
B)if you aint buying from the main factory directly then you will automatically be losing money. anyone who want to make great business in China needs to 1st speak Chinese and 2nd go to China to visit the factory and discuss prices. EVERY price in China needs to be bargained down directly with owners. YES!!! this is Chinese way of doing business, especially with "laowai" (foreigners). so if you are buying goods via some online brokers in Beijing (while the factory is deep within Guangdong province) then you will never make a great bargain because you will always pay middle men (only God knows how many).
C)if you only buy 10pieces of each products (each times) then you certainly wont get the best prices, you need to buy pieces by the thousands before the price can be at the bare minimum.
Great insights.
Regarding to the section A) of your comments. I can't agree more with the first two sentences. But the last sentence, I don't agree with the word "many". No one can deny there are cheating people in China, like elsewhere in the world. However, the word "many" may leave a false impression that there are a high percentage of international sellers are cheating. In fact, as far as I know, the cheating people are a very tiny percentage.
True, there are a lot of cheating people in China, but most of them CAN'T speak English or other foreign languages. So there aren't many of them in the international business community.
My advice is no matter how do you think of the supplier, start by making a small order, then increase the order gradually. In such course, you will know more information of the supplier and the whole industry in China. This will help you make better decisions.