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hensben:
Thank you my brother. These people are just unintelligent yet call Chelsea fans names. Smh. Zindane abi Na Henry talk same thing say Hazard get Messi style of play, does that mean he is comparing them, he is only acknowledging Hazard’s talent because we all know us the best player in the world.
My argument from onset is Hazard vs Neymar and I am glad people can see the light now. Since Neymar left Barca the hype that people used to rate him ahead of Hazard is no longer there, now we all can see who is doing better. Both are comparable.

so in your opinion, remove Messi's goals and hazard is on the par or even better than him? because that's what started all this

Eruditor:
Which is funny when we consider "take-ons" have 2 subunits- successful and unsuccessful. It was not stated. Voodoo stats. He brought 2017 news in 2018. Intellectual dishonesty. Then concluded that chances created is that much to look at. Meanwhile, if a player pulls out, makes a cross, drills a pass as long as it is into the box, it will be recorded as "chance created".

Here, a player with 500+ more goals, 250+ more assists, more dribbles, awards, trophies for a far longer time over another player that is not even a generational talent.

The difference between arguably the greatest player of all times and someone who is yet to top Adebayor's 2007/08 or even Fabregas' 2009/10 season in efficiency or numbers.

I am in shock.

the thing is annoying af, one season with Liverpool and salah already played a ucl final but it's supporting cast that's hazard's problem. no single ucl winner in that Liverpool team but yet salah took them to the finals, a team that has milner, Karius, wijinachum or whatever is his name, Gomez and co. what's the difference between Hazard and salah sef? because heaven knows I will take salah ahead of hazard, I won't pay 100 mill for a player that has 8 ucl career goals and whose greatest achievement is 2 premier league titles



the difference between Hazard and Salah is that Hazard is 27 and Salah is 26

Greatihex:
chai!!! These barca fans!!

You just confirmed for us with this your post that hazard has created more chances than Messi since he became a professional footballer.

For your info, hazard became a first team regular in 2009/2010 season. Compare it to that of messi.



Barca fans and ignorance.

you keep displaying your ignorance on a public forum, I'll keep exposing it. so when people say cr7 has more career goals than Messi, do they also tell you that he's played over 150 matches more? that he's 2 years older? that he started playing pro football before Messi? when these things comes to Messi then it becomes irrelevant abi? seems like the lack of talented attackers in Chelsea over the years has made y'all forget what a great attacker looks like, someone that posts less than ten assists per season is being compared to a man that averages 30 - 35 assists each season playing from a midfield position. the fact that you're still making this argument reinforces my claims that most Chelsea fans are ignorant, those ones that shout the most at a viewing center. let madrid come and sign hazard na let us see, shebi it's by takeons completed abi? you have Messi's talent level and Barça and Madrid aren't interested in signing you, you are still a Chelsea player(no disrespect to the club) at the age of 27.



the difference between Hazard and Zaha is the number to takeons completed as both posts the same number of goals per season

Greatihex:
i thought you would have brought facts to dispute my claims.

I don't know of hazard's chance creation to that of messi in recent seasons, but i do know that during Mourinho's first two seasons at Chelsea, hazard came first and second respectively for chance creation in europe.

He was second only to payet in the second season and i am not sure that messi has ever topped the chance creation since then. Other players have topped that.

This is to prove to you that messi does not do Everything better than everyother player

do you also want to check their assist stats? what of pass completion rates? y'all should just focus on the Hazard Vs Neymar debate coz as ridiculous as that sounds, its better to sound ridiculous than to sound dumb

Greatihex:
i thought you would have brought facts to dispute my claims.

I don't know of hazard's chance creation to that of messi in recent seasons, but i do know that during Mourinho's first two seasons at Chelsea, hazard came first and second respectively for chance creation in europe.

He was second only to payet in the second season and i am not sure that messi has ever topped the chance creation since then. Other players have topped that.

This is to prove to you that messi does not do Everything better than everyother player

i don't have time to be digging through the net but here it is

mehn e be like sey afrodoc dey work commenteries for npfl ooooo, see names abeg

hazard is actually closer to snodgrass than he is to Messi, the only difference between snodgrass and hazard is the MENTALITY and not the ABILITY. if snodgrass was playing ucl football,he probably have more goals than hazard. snodgrass has a way inferior supporting cast so that's why he hasn't scored over 600 career goals, put snodgrass in that Chelsea team and he will win ucl and break the goal scoring record in epl.if snodgrass had the right mentality, he would be the greatest of all times and would .win three world cups and five balon d'ors.



all Mr. ibu needs to do when he steps into the octagon with khabib is to have the right mentality and boom.... he will knock out khabib




a 27 yr old player that have the same talent level as Messi is begging madrid to sign him for 4 years now and they refused, Perez probably looked at his game and was like "nah fvck it, we already have a useless dancer in our team".

Greatihex:
Okay

what does this mean is there a better dribbler than Messi? so according to you, hazard creates more scoring chances than Messi ba? well one is the goat while the other is irrelevant to d football world

this thread is crazy and not in a good way, just when I thought I've seen it all someone says hazard is a more accurate dribbler compared to Messi. At this point Messi might not even be good at all, someone will wake up one day and give us reasons why hazard is the goat.



someone that has 8 ucl career goals (even sadio mane surpassed that in one season) is being compared to a five time balon d'or winner,am not even sure if the guy is even better than Dybala sef



Lord have Messi on y'all

lest I forget, remove goals from Ororo's game and he's just a portuguese odion ighalo

BlueAngel444:
mehn free that guy, even if I said Hazard has better defensive contribution than Messi, in response to that cuntinho he will still frog jump and type trash.

so what's the basic job of an attacker (aside things like chance creation, assist provision, goals, defence splitting passes)? so in your mind things like physicality and defensive contributions are what an attacker should possess. it's like saying Navas is a better passer of the ball than oblak and de gea so therefore he's as good as oblak or de gea when the core requirements of a good goalkeeper is to make saves

nihilistjnr:
Actually Its not blasphemy. I actually made a very nuanced argument about this early last year.

Talent alone is not enough to drive you to have a phenomenal career and Hazard is the most unserious bastard....

The difference between Messi and Hazard is more in mentality rather than ability.

Another factor is the supporting cast

I can bet my left testicle, Messi cannot replicate his magic playing this Chelsea team.

Let Hazard go to Madrid or Barca and let us see

so in your opinion, hazard would score 91 goals in a calendar year if he was playing for Barça right? he will also dribble seven players against getafe before scoring a solo goal (since you implied that it's more about his mentality than his ability). the truth is that if you remove goals from Messi's game, he is still the best assist provider in the world, still the best dribbler in the world, still one of the best passers of the ball, still the best chance creator in the world, do you want me to continue? if you watch Barça matches regularly, you would notice that Messi spends more time deep in midfield than he does in attack

nihilistjnr:
Actually Its not blasphemy. I actually made a very nuanced argument about this early last year.

Talent alone is not enough to drive you to have a phenomenal career and Hazard is the most unserious bastard....

The difference between Messi and Hazard is more in mentality rather than ability.

Another factor is the supporting cast

I can bet my left testicle, Messi cannot replicate his magic playing this Chelsea team.

Let Hazard go to Madrid or Barca and let us see

so in your opinion, hazard would score 91 goals in a calendar year if he was playing for Barça right? he will also dribble seven players against getafe before scoring a solo goal (since you implied that it's more about his mentality than his ability)

Nihilist probably saw the blasphemy he typed so he quickly channelled all his energy on the Brazil Vs Belgium debate, the other guy was left stranded and was hoping that his fellow hazard fans would come to his aid but he had no idea...... man got betrayed by his own people, no one wanted a piece of Messi and Cr7

these news paper stand analysts sha, people that don't watch anything that isn't epl. these are the same set of ignorant fellows that say epl is better than la liga just because they watch a bunch of average clubs struggle to get results against each other

ChiefAzubuikeh:
To be honest, without goals, hazard is a far better player. Ronaldo is to just feed him and he'll score. Hazard is moulded all round. Work rate, dribble accuracy, speed , influence in attack etc..

dribble accuracy ba? Isorite, so hazard is faster than Ororo, have more influence than Ororo

name one thing hazard does better than Messi and I will give you reasons why Lagos is greater than Paris

BlueAngel444:
stop deceiving yourself by yourself that you have sense.
mention the full Brazil squad, the opponents they faced in that World Cup. it's human farts like you that think English NT is something because of their lucky wc run.

are you always this stupid or are you making a special effort today? what's the opponents they had to face got to do with the anything? in a world cup someone is asking about the opponents Brazil faced like they faced super sports united........ the point is that he took a team that had Oscar, Ramirez, Paulinho ,Fred in their starting xi to a semi and they lost because he got injured and couldn't play, Hazard played and still got booted out by France

whenever am done from work I just come over here to read stupid posts and have a good laugh.



at age 20, Neymar was already one of the best footballers in the world (playing at Santos)


at 22 he took Brazil to a World Cup semi playing with the likes of Fred, Oscar, Ramirez, Paulinho and co (3 of them are now playing in China), this is something hazard only managed to do at 27 playing with KDB, Courtois,lukaku, mertens and co


at 23 Neymar won a treble, something hazard know nothing about



at 23 Neymar finished in the top 3 of the balon d'or shortlist



at 26 Neymar is already in the top 3 goalscorers of all times for a country that boasts of some of the best attackers in history of football



at 27 hazard is still begging Real Madrid to sign him and they are refusing.


at 27 hazard has 8 ucl career goals compared to Neymar's 30 in less than 5 years of ucl football





the only people that think hazard is better than Neymar are Chelsea fans

whenever am done from work I just come over here to read stupid posts and have a good laugh.



at age 20, Neymar was already one of the best footballers in the world (playing at Santos)


at 22 he took Brazil to a World Cup semi playing with the likes of Fred, Oscar, Ramirez, Paulinho and co (3 of them are now playing in China), this is something hazard only managed to do at 27 playing with KDB, Courtois,lukaku, mertens and co


at 23 Neymar won a treble, something hazard know nothing about



at 26 Neymar is already in the top 3 goalscorers of all times for a country that boasts of some of the best attackers in history of football



at 27 hazard is still begging Real Madrid to sign him and they are refusing.


at 27 hazard has 8 ucl career goals compared to Neymar's 30 in less than 5 years of ucl football

this is why they call y'all chelsea fans illiterates, just look at blasphemy of mind boggling proportion. remove senseless dribbles and hazard is on par with snodgrass and the likes, how can a sane human say something like that.


yesterday one shekpite said Neymar is a striker and hazard is a play maker just to make hazard look good and today another one said remove goals and hazard is on par with Messi (if not better).....if we call them ogogoro people now, they start trouble

nihilistjnr:
Hazard is in the same talent bracket as Messi and Ororo.

seems like this thread is the dump site of nairaland, people just spew rubbish over here with confidence. I've come to respect you alot on this forum so i will pretend I didn't see this fvckery

odizeey:
neymar o. hazard o. mbappe still be their boss

even Mbappe has no idea what you're talking about

Jemi7:
That one said Neymar is a striker sha. Lmao

lol when you don't see facts to back up your claim, you make up your own

A discovery of witches

Neymar1095:
Neymar for psg

40Games. 38 goals 20 assist.. Boss man

talk true, shey na from twitter you copy am from

BykeLaByke:
Justice Brett Kavanaugh baybbbbbeeeehhhhhhhh.


MeToo bïtches can choke on a big fat dïck.

it was expected tho,the moment Susan started talking diplomatically, I knew he would be confirmed

LMAO

lol make una free this guy abeg, hensben nor mind dem joor..... keep spoking ur speak, we understand

let the guilty party be prosecuted and brought to justice, knowing Ororo I won't be surprised if he actually raped a woman

Neymar1095:
Lord please I want barca this year

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And that was how hazard was no longer the best player in England