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eagle,eye:
I am sorry but I don't debate matters based on sentiments. You are very much entitled to your opinion.

eagle,eye:
my dear, your likes have succefully. derailed this thread. The topic was about Gowon writing a memoir, but you and your likes have dragged the issue from Aburi Accord being implemented 90% (which prompted me to post the whole transcript of the Aburi Accord), now you want us to go back and forth about the First Coup.
Whenever a thread is started and it has anything to do with the Biafran war, your likes will jump into the fray and do all their best to derail the thread.
If you must know, I (an Igbo man) equally believed that the execution of the first coup de 'etat was flawed. The initial plan by the Coupist was to carry out a total cleansing of the "Filthy" political landscape. But some of the actors of that ill fated coup bungled it. By allowing Azikiwe, Michael Opara and some others from the East to escape death, they inevitably gave a Ethnic coloration to the a coup.
BUT DOES THAT WARRANT THE SUBSEQUENT KILLINGS THAT TOOK PLACE AFTER THE JULY COUNTER COUP? NO.
Does that warrant Gowon not keeping to the Aburi Accord? No
Does that make the Genocidal killings Right? No

So when you want to argue History do so Objectively and not because of Tribal sentiment. I for one will not come here on NL and support what IBB did in 1993, (Annuling an election that was widely acknowlegded as free and fair) because a Yoruba man was involved.

eagle,eye:
My dear you can believe what you want. But am not here to entertain your tribal slurs.
I deal with objective presentation of arguement and my question wasn't actually directed to you. Thank You.

eagle,eye:
Please forgive my curiousity, I will like you to once again put up the link or title of the books that supports your initial assertion that OJUKWU WANTED WAR. Moreover you are still stating that Ojukwu went to war in this last post.
History makes me to understand that Ojukwu was forced to defend his people against external agrression, how does that equate to going to War.
Am only interested in reading the account of History that states that OJUKWU WANTED WAR as you initially asserted in the earlier post I quoted, for I am a student of History.

T9ksy: The bolded speaks volume about you and your kinsmen. So, ojukwu was just assessing his strength by sending young boys into the battlefield with one gun between two of them whilst the enemy is well and fully armed with modern weapons. However, on realising his "strength" is nothing to write home about, he legged it like a thief in the night leaving his defenceless people at the mercy of the approaching armed forces.

When we fight, we fight to win or we don't fight at all till we are good and ready to give the enemy a bloody nose. In yoruba war history, the are ona kakanfo (general) fights to win or die on the battlefield. He doesn't run off in the night only to come back and start pointing accusing fingers at others for his failure on the battlefield.

In the history of yorubaland, no are onakakanfo has been known to lose a war and then come back to live till old age among the people, like ojukwu did.Never mind marrying a young damsel. Certainly, the yorubas will not consider him a hero!

tomakint: Son, go back to bed, I am done with you

ilugunboy: That is the level of ridiculous deceit these people can get into....

It's good for them to do it..but never good for the other party to pay them back in their coin..

Andre Uweh: After Aburi, Ojukwu also went to OAU conference of head of states seeking for a peaceful resolution of the Nigerian crisis (1967).
Biafra was not just declared by Ojukwu but by the eastern Nigerian parliament at Enugu. Unlike Adaka Boro, who did not act with the wish of any parliament.
Ojukwu was in firm control of the east and not Gowon. Have you not bothered to ask why Ojukwu released the prisoners detained or serving in the east?. Gowon as I said earlier was just wasting his time creating states in the east.

eagle,eye:
I have said it else-where, even if Ojukwu did not make the Ahiara Declaration another Ranking Soldier would have, and Ojukwu may even have a mutiny on his hand.
The situation that time warrants the East to go there seperate ways, since it was obvious that Nigeria did not accept them (even now, have the Igbos really been accepted in the so called one NIGERIA?)
Ojukwu's hands were forced he did the best under the circumstance. Moreover why will the Nigerian Army still resort to the use of Force, if they really wanted the East back to the union called Nigeria.
Gowon could have still called for another round of Dialogue when he found out that he has goofed. As the then Eastern governor, Ojukwu did the best he could given what was on ground.

Andre Uweh: What a load of rubbish above. The rubbish above show that the poster is not informed. Did Ojukwu not go to Ethiopia at OAU assembly. You feel he did not want peace?. The more you guys chat here the more you showcase your ignorance.
About east central state, Gown was really wasting his time creating states in the east as he was not in control of the east until mid Jan'70. Even at that, there were Igbo people outside the south east. For your tiny brain, the war was not about Ndigbo but old eastern Nigeria.
I know some peeps in real life who only come to nairaland to read through and leave no comments. Why not be like that?.

T9ksy: My brother, Awo did the right thing! Why should the yorubas put their neck on the line for the ibos? Ore wo ni ipa won se idi? When the ibos were cavorting with the northerners, did Awo not warn them? Instead, they colluded with their Fulani masters to cause mayhem in yorubaland hoping that they can then sweep in and take over yorubaland until akintola told them where to go. How many yorubas lost their lives in the subsequent “operation wetie” instigated by okpara?

Had the yorubas joined the ibos in the war, we would have lost a lot in both human and natural resources only for the ibos to match into lagos as the phocking liberator! Do you think the ibos will just then leave us to rule ourselves? Even now, without fighting and winning any war, the ibos are fond of laying claim to part of our ancestral land so imagine if they have “liberated” us!

Ojukwu was smart but not 10% as smart as Awo!His childish prank cost nigeria millions of innocent souls. May he never find peace wherever he is now. Amen.

T9ksy: My brother, Awo did the right thing! Why should the yorubas put their neck on the line for the ibos? Ore wo ni ipa won se idi? When the ibos were cavorting with the northerners, did Awo not warn them? Instead, they colluded with their Fulani masters to cause mayhem in yorubaland hoping that they can then sweep in and take over yorubaland until akintola told them where to go. How many yorubas lost their lives in the subsequent “operation wetie” instigated by okpara?

Had the yorubas joined the ibos in the war, we would have lost a lot in both human and natural resources only for the ibos to match into lagos as the phocking liberator! Do you think the ibos will just then leave us to rule ourselves? Even now, without fighting and winning any war, the ibos are fond of laying claim to part of our ancestral land so imagine if they have “liberated” us!

Ojukwu was smart but not 10% as smart as Awo!His childish prank cost nigeria millions of innocent souls. May he never find peace wherever he is now. Amen.

tomakint: ...and if you were in Ojukwu's shoes what would you have done? I need your personal answer

joeyfire: Nobody invited you to this thread or talked about you or your kinsmen. You gatecrashed and are a source of derailment

joeyfire: I honestly believe gowon will never write his memoirs. His role in history is just too dark and I'm sure he tries to forget it.

He was installed as head of state over many of his seniors based on the wishes of the northern elite, due process was murdered and hasn't been properly revived, even after the war some of his gaffes on political and ecocomic matters are the stuff of legend and jokes

eko ilee: Real men don't run from the battlefield while his men die needlessly for his for his poor judgement and foolish actions.

Real men accept their their situation and hope to do better another day, but they don't cry, moan, point fingers and make silly excuses all day everyday.

You people really need to give it a rest because this daily victim mentality and drama is all played out and pathetic.

tomakint: Son, I don't fraternize with e-goats, you have received more than enough education on this forum, now sod off

Dede1: When ordinary Major was slapping the day lights out of Diya, Olanrewaju and Adisa's eyes for getting the whiff of the coup, the trio wept like bigazz Yooba woman under the heavy pounding pressure of Igbo pr1ck, olodo.

tomakint: Remember that the certified dolt you are trying to educate is a psychopath of the deepest dye, why not ignore him to his woes the op spoke nothing but the CAPITAL TRUTH

Dede1: You are incongruously pathetic ninny. Ndigbo had learnt that Yooba peeps are inherently chameleonic and can never forge any form of unity even in hell.

Dede1: I can only discuss war with a jackass such as you the day Yooba peeps precipitate ordinary coup in Nigeria.

Dede1: The above post shows you are a moronic numbskull who does not know where conflict starts in a story. I had wasted my glorious time chatting with a log of wood.

Chris†Kid:
As usual SW slaves defending their northern masters like their lives depend on it.

Dede1: People who ask their father to measure pr1cks with them eat amala with heavily spiced oily awedu and tend to defecate publicly with ease. You are the only troll who knows the truth which states successful coups lead to civil war, olodo.

Dede1: You are a disgraceful troll. No wonder Nigeria remains in dilapidated state. I guess only moronic nitwits such as you are privy to successful coups that have led to wars. In fact, your stream of thought qualifies you to the gallows.

modicum: Many people have urged Gen. Gowon to write his memoir.Mounting such pressure on him is an exercise in futility because there are five key issues, which he will never be able to explain convincingly to all Nigerians. So he prefers to avoid talking about them. The first is the Aburi Accord. How on earth can Gowon justify dumping an agreement he signed freely in a foreign country, surrounded by a crowd of advisers and technocrats?

The second is the pogrom of 1966/1967 in Kano and Kaduna? Till date, nobody was arrested. Nobody was prosecuted or convicted for murder, arson and looting. Lest we forget, it is this impunity over the years that has metamorphosed into an controllable monster called Boko Haram. Boko Haram is not imported. It is a phenomenon nurtured by the Northern elite to consolidate their hold on power at the centre. It may have developed some international “tentacles” but it was wholly home-grown. The Northern elite have lost control of what they created.

Third, how can Gowon justify the signing away of the Bakassi Peninsular without consulting the indigenes, all in a desperate move to win his war against Emeka Ojukwu? Gen. Gowon traded away a people, their land, the resources and the strategic position of the Bakassi Peninsular. Fourthly, what is Gowon’s explanation for the starving to death of two million children in Biafra? Was there no other way to avoid this monumental human tragedy?

Finally, how will Gowon justify signing the Abandoned Property decree? How will Gowon reconcile that decree with “No victor, No vanquished”? How will he reconcile the Abandoned Property law with his “RRR” (Reconciliation, Rehabilitation, Reconstruction)? The “RRR” was cleverly hijacked by the Lagos/Ibadan propaganda machine because Western Nigeria benefited immensely from Gowon’s dictatorship. “RRR” existed only on the pages of Tribune, Sketch and Herald newspapers. There was nothing on ground for the devastated Easterners. It was Sam Mbakwe and Jim Nwobodo that started reconstructing roads in 1979 (nine years after “RRR” was declared by the Federal Government). It is now (40 years after the war) that Rotimi Amaechi and Godswill Akpabio are reconstructing and expanding pre-war roads in their states. Nigerians waiting for Gowon’s memoir may have to wait forever.

Dede1: If you still can not understand at this moment in time that Gowon is a usurper, then I am not surprised by your choice of phrases in a sentence.