popizaino: Your excuses doesn’t hold, they are all defenders and should be versatile enough to be able to play any position at the back.let me even agree with you they are not quality why are you not making excuse for Delph that occupied the left back too for guardiola?
Delph that played out of position for man city nah quality too?
I no come here to do Conte vs Guardiola argument. I simply asked if the back four listed above was quality. How much quality was there in Chelsea's squad at that time?
popizaino: Diego costa Eden hazard Cresc fabregas Nemanja matic Willian Pedro Rodriguez Salah——(on loan) John Terry Gary cahill Azlipculeta Ivanovic Curtois John Mikel obi
You want more ?
The back four of Ivanovic, Terry, Cahill and Azpilicueta(Played out of position) na quality?
raumdeuter: Without playing in Europe that's an easy task. When he added Europe to it we saw the result. Conte finished 5th
Just like klopp this season bowing out of domestic competition
To each coach, his priority. Klopp has ambitions of winning the Premier League this season and probably getting a good CL finish. Conte won the league in his fist season and reached the final of the FA cup with mostly average players. That's not an easy feat in any way.
BikeMan: you call that squad quality? That's laughable, even till now we still don't have a quality squad
Conte used Moses, Cahill, Alonso and Willian to win a league title in his first season. Also took us to a cup final. If that's not amazing, I don't know what is.
And some guys are arguing over trophies when it is obvious that most of the time Drogba was a carry along striker.
If it is judged by trophies....then Mikel Obi is greater than Yaya Toure in EPL.
No just jump enter wetin you know nothing about. Someone listed his criteria for judging players and included trophies won not minding how the trophies were won. Now he can't use the same criteria to judge Salah.
My criteria shows why Suarez wil be ahead since he had an outstanding individual performance in the season that OShea never matched in his career
Klose had outstanding individual performance in the world cup that Zlatan never matched Zidane had outstanding individual performance in the wworld cup and CL that DelPiero never matched Neymar had outstanding CL performance that Hazard never matched Boateng had outstand performance in the world cup and CL that Terry never matched Iniesta had outstanding world cup and CL performance that Lampard never matched
This above is consistency
Now bring yourr criteria to the fore and lets see how consistent or sensible they are
I think say we don leave this logic argument of a thing. Using your logic, is Ronaldo better than Messi?
raumdeuter: So why does no striker come close despite Kane not winning anything, What was your criteria for choosing Kane over the strikers that have won something
There's a reason why I don't have any fixed criteria for choosing players. What worked in 1990 may not work today. Teams and playing styles are different, injuries and many other factors we can't explain. Kane has shown consistency over the years not just in the EPL but also in other comps, come back firing after sustaining multiple injuries and things I see. If he doesn't win a trophy, I won't see it as a reason not to rate him.
raumdeuter: Tell us the EPL strikers better than Harry Kane despite him not having a trophy
No striker comes close for now. I'm just trying to show how flawed your logic is. Going by your logic, if Rashford wins the EPL next year scoring 25 goals, he's automatically greater than Kane na. Also Ronaldo is greater than Messi according to your logic, right?