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With the way man city dey play, e fit reach 4 ooo English football really is shite right now

airmark:
There was bro. I remember at the beginning of the season, some comments here indicated some chelsea fans were expecting conte to fail, in order to prove that mou's expulsion was an error. I was a fan of mou and while losing i still believed in him, but i quickly asked for his sack when he started making some statements that indicated he had lost it and had no idea to rescue the team. We were playing so poorly and he still said he was contented with the squad. Ivanovic getting sodomised weekly, dropping points up and down. The day i watched that press conference, i rushed here to back his exit. Conte has corrected all his errors and we are leading the table. Chelsea over any individual bro.

We might have different circumspects of mourinhos sacking, but I totally agree with your post, any Chelsea fan who still grieves mourinhos departure isn't okay. There is no reason to miss him and of course Chelsea over any individual all day.

I'm just being plain devoid of any sentiment whatsoever.

raumdeuter:
If you had an ex girlfriend who used to insult people while with you and you used to cheer her, So when you broke up, she starts taking shots at/insult you and your new girlfriend regularly every week
Will you stand up for your new girlfriend or you just ignore and allow her to continue so you dont hurt the feelings of your ex while your current continues to take a beating
If both of them now get into a fight who will you defend or you'll just stay back and let your current and ex fight it out

You need to note that JM hasn't insulted conte. He has been taking shots at Chelsea as a whole but hasn't ever singled out conte, so your analogy doesn't exactly follow.

raumdeuter:
So you dont believe you exist? You dont believe there are fans who are willing to defend Mourinho at the expense of Chelsea

someone opened this thread saying exctly that

https://www.nairaland.com/3122633/important-question-chelsea-fans-mourinhos

Raumdeuter, you've always been known to be cunning and devious, but I believe you're simply being mischievous here because I just earlier stated my reason for penning that post in my response to nihilist less than 5mins ago. That post was made few hours after he was confirmed as Manchester Uniteds manager. Very loyal fans would definitely feel something then.

I said this earlier :

I once admired Mourinho very much that's correct, I was sad to see our most successful manager leave and said what whoever grieving a loss would say but over time, someone else filled that void, I no longer feel the affinity I might have been feeling then

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I am certainly not biased in my view and please you and nihilist gat to stop using this against me. I don tire.

You ignore him because you would be a grand hypocrite to criticize what you so fiercely defended even when you knew it was wrong. He insulted a legend, we said he was just 'stating facts'. We accepted his bad ways totally. I don't like people who have double standards.

Nihilist, one's views on issues evolves over time, I once admired Mourinho very much that's correct, I was sad to see our most successful manager leave and said what whoever grieving a loss would say but over time, someone else filled that void, I no longer feel the affinity I might have been feeling then.

Our current state has eradicated that sense of loss and I'm fully on board the conte Chelsea project which looks promising but I don't like the short term memory fans display, why would a fan who supported JM calling a legend a 'specialist in failure' come around now and start calling him classless. If you accepted it then, why the anger and disgust now He was sacked! He might feel bad about it but he is at a bigger club now earning double what earned here, why don't we just ignore his tantrums?

He isn't moaning, he is trying to get under our skin and if the players are actually squabbling about this the we the fans are, one can actually say he is succeeding. We need to turn a deaf ear to him.

Raumdeuter, I don't believe there is anything like, 'pro-Mourinho Chelsea fan'.

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Bimffo:
I won't deny the fact I started supporting Chelsea very early in the 2000's, but I got to this Club before Mourinho, Thank you.

Speak for yourself alone. There are a lot of people you don't know.

I am not speaking for anyone but majority of the Chelsea fans I know haven't been fans for more than 11 years. it's still no hidden fact that 85% of Chelsea fans came after our first premier league title downwards till now. It wouldn't be wrong to practically say that Chelsea became a popular football club in 2004, before that we were like the Tottenham of today.

And you saying you came into the club before Mourinho is highly debatable but let's leave it at that.

Bimffo:
@Donjazet, You will say it was when he came you started supporting Chelsea

Its no hidden fact that 85% Chelsea fans today started supporting the club from the early 2000's. That's the reason we're termed plastic fans in England. I could bet that it's not more than 11 years YOU started supporting Chelsea. Mourinho was certainly a factor in the success which shot up the fan base of the club.

Please you guys must note that I am not defending mourinhos words or actions, I am simply being objective and plain devoid of sentiment or bias. People are reacting as though they're surprised by mourinhos actions or words and I am only pointing out that it is not new, it should be expected from him, it is his style , a style which we were accustomed to and which we liked. Calling him an S.O.B right now is awkward because despite all these, it still has to be pointed out that what he achieved here was immense. He has always been a jerk_ but he was our jerk_ . Just ignore the guy and don't fall for his antics.

Bimffo:
@Donjazet, You will say it was when he came you started supporting Chelsea. Stop saying BS please.

Before he came, we had Makalele and we were 2nd on the table.
Before he came, we won the Super Cup beating Super Real Madrid that colonized the Champions league at that time
You want to hear another one? 8 season Before he came, we didn't finish below 6th on the table, then he dragged us to 17th.

You want me to continue.?

So don't ever say Chelsea fans didn't have voice in England. Don't ever ever say that BS again!

For fucks_ sake, we might have won a few cups here and there but we were never regarded as title contenders. It would be meaningless for me to argue with someone about how relevant Chelsea really became after abrahimovic and mourinhos arrival here. That combo sent us to the very top of English football, we were just like Tottenham before he arrived, a little above average. And winning a few, please don't even go there.

Bimffo:
Firstly, if the crown fits you, wear it with pride. I didn't tag anyone and I didn't even read any of your post. Its always clumsy, so its really hazardous to my sight.
Even this your post, You won't believe I just glanced through it because you mentioned me and I am seeing Wenger and Arsenal.

You can say anything you want, Mourinho was loved at the Bridge. They don't fùçking know him at Arsenal or anywhere. Anything Mourinho did was accepted by us. He was more recognised with Chelsea than anywhere else. We called our best players snakes.
Some of us even supported his move to scummies FC, and we said he needed the Job to redeem himself
You know the funniest part, we welcomed him at the Bridge, then the 1st attack he made was against the people that recognized him as the Special one?
He didn't stop at that, he blasted we fans and the beloved club that he claimed he loved.
In everything he never said anything about Conte and do you know who is defending us now, Conte.
Then he went with his press that he is not the reason we are not in Europe.. Wait Baba, are you really a Chelsea fan? Someone said this about your team and you want me to defend him?
My Club over anyone. He is not welcomed at the bridge. He is Judas and He is Judas.
Arsenal didn't do shïït for him.

Before Benitez left, we were begging for him at Stamford bridge because of the Love.
When he went trophyless in his 1st season, we still retained him. Tell me a Coach that has received so much preferential treatment from the Club.
Then you go to a rival Club (Which we agree you can go, because Lampard did and he was still our Legend), then the 1st thing you did was attack the fans, after that you are always talking about the team.
Please let him fuūçk off.
Please try and let your next reply to me have paragraph, I will love to read and not to browse through.

You shouldn't just say what you can't defend all just to make a point. How did he insult the fan base at first? I am not defending him, I am simply not being hypocritical about this. Many Chelsea fans are ranting and shouting now but this should have been expected from him. People sound surprised. Jose has always been an S.O.A.B, we liked that about him. Why expect any less.


Lastly, when I make a post here, I am not writing a formal essay to anyone so I definitely don't need to arrange it perfectly for anyone so far as my opinion is passed, only a fool or an ITK would feign misunderstanding my posts. It's no hidden knowledge that people here don't really like very long posts and I try to compress the posts a bit but that doesn't make it incomprehensible, I punctuate and accentuate my posts well so it beats me that a struggling undergraduate like yourself would come and form rubbish online.

@bimffo, I'll choose to ignore the silent shots make we no start wetin we no go finish.
Let me dignify you with a response, Jose once called Arsene wenger a specialist in failure, wenger is a manager that despite all his short comings is a legend of the premier league and at that much older than Mourinho. Calling a fellow manager that was in all sense, disrespectful, classless, insulting and downright humiliating but what did we the Chelsea fans do?, we encouraged him, we loved that he did that, we defended him saying that he was 'simply stating facts' and what eventually happened at the bridge? Wenger was demolished further at the bridge less than 5 weeks after his statements.
If we sucked his dick_ as you say, it's because he certainly earned it while here, he called himself special on his very first day in England and went on to back it up. Before he came, Chelsea fans had no voice whatsoever in England but that has changed today and you have to acknowledge that he played a large role in that.

While he was here, he also took aims at our former managers, ranieri and benitez and we cheered him on. He walked the talk, he backed up his words with results. He is no longer with us but you have to acknowledge that he will never change.

Chelsea is now his direct rival and in typical Jose fashion, taking shots at us and his other opponents is unavoidable, it's his pattern.
Bimffo, you said yourself that you defended him, so why would you possibly be surprised now that the table is turned? It would be highly hypocritical of you to come and start ranting or raining abuses on him after defending this same classless acts while he was here. It would be best to simply ignore him.

raumdeuter:
Were some Chelsea fans right to have sang to abuse him and was he right to have replied them that he is the best they have ever had

It was something done in the heat of the moment. They didn't start saying those things until the altercation between mou and conte. And Jose being Jose, with an inflated ego will always reply . As I said earlier, Jose was never known to be classy or humble or a good loser (sportsman) but we the Chelsea always liked him like that, when others complained, we always defended and fought for him, it would be hypocritical to come and start abusing him or saying shit_ . This is Jose, he has always been like that. Manchester United knew how he was, knew about his bad disciplinary records and foul mouthed replies but still employed him because they knew that despite all that, he inherently brings success on the pitch by all means and that he has started doing.

nateevs:
Hmmm. Bashing JM is now in vogue I see. Welcome all to my angle. It took a while.
Meanwhile, these mind games nonsense is now seen for what it actually is, mindless rants. The Shiiit is no longer working.

Like I have said for the umpteenth time, for the first time in his career, he had come up against 5 genuine top contenders who can match him tactically and financially and foul nyansh is open.
Let him continue to rant.

It's too early to tell if it's working or not. I really don't feel like defending Mourinhos performance this season but should he win the Europa league after winning the league cup and finishing in the top four, that will certainly be a monumental progress from what man-u have had in the past few years and they are actually playing good football, creating bucket loads of chances but just being wasteful in front of goal which isn't down to him personally. It's logical to say they would be serious contenders for the title next season but still for now, it's fair to say, there is progress at Manchester United.

In summary, all these are just mind games, it's very normal for Mourinho to get under his opponents skin, you should note that Chelsea isn't the only team he has taken shots at, he has done so with kloop on some occasions, he has also taken shots at wenger severally this season, that is the 'Mourinho way' he has never shyed away from being a controversial figure but he has always lived to expectations, his trophy records says so. Whatever he does, one thing that can never be taken away is his legendary status at Chelsea. His name is fully embellished in gold in the clubs archive.

raumdeuter:
donjazet I mentioned in one post early morning about Mourinho you no answer

Mourinho is a Chelsea legend, there is no doubt about that, his name is certainly inscribed in the clubs folklore for sure. You can't talk of the modern day Chelsea with alluding credit and respect to Jose Felix Mourinho. What he is doing now is not surprising or unbecoming of him, I infact see it as him recognizing us as a sure heavy threat to his success. It's no hidden fact that he's the master of mind games, a man who likes to get under his opponents skin to dislodge them psychologically and have a mental edge over them. While at Chelsea, he successfully got under arsenal and Liverpools mindset with his incessant mind games and to this day has an edge over them. Likewise with pep. Him trying to get under Chelsea's skin shouldn't be surprising or baffling to anyone. We loved him like that, we enjoyed it while it lasted and in as much as I'm peeved with his actions, I understand that it is his pattern, one which has been successful for him for a long time, I certainly hope Chelsea wouldn't fall for it.

Danhumprey:

the guy tire me I swear, if the picture he portrays here is how he really is, can you imagine the frustration written on his family's face and the regret felt by his parents?

TapDance:
[This bow-tie wearing faggott wont let me be...Your infatuation is unrealistic.

Nigga_ your stupidity is beyond baffling, I mean how is it possible that every single time you want to say something, something incredibly stupid comes out of that poo-hole you call a mouth. Every time you want to say something, it's either you're complaining or lashing out or simply insulting one person or the other, are you that frustrated in life Nigga, better grow up! No one was born to be this stupid.

The dog is out again.

I can't believe you guys still engage that purple font using cretin. Whatever happened to the ignore button I can hardly read anything intelligible from it. It just comes, spouts a rant and off it goes to another thread. It hardly makes sense, its either ranting or whining. Guys abeg no dey reduce your intelligence standard by engaging with that cretin.

optional1:
who be this two dogoyaro wey dey up there.... Donjazet u no call me bah

No vex abeg. I no go repeat the mistake again babe.

bigkesh:
Hazard met with the Karate kid to build up stamina

My goodness! is that willan?

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Hey, you guys need to chill. The team is doing very well right now, no need for all these squabbles and hassles right now. These are plainly summer talks dudes.

Did I miss the 666th page?

Lordseyad:
Av always liked White house shows.... nd it seems av watched all Actions ones with White house... I think It's high time i tried this Madam secretary.. bur it's drama...

Please share the White House show's you know.

Costa has to be sold!!! His link-up play is soo terrible. He is very hardworking and clinical but his team play is very atrocious. He was just losing the ball incessantly and it wasn't just a one-off, it's a pattern that has been going on since. We could do better. Abumeyang could really come good.

Nihilist:
Solid 8

Which areas go need improvement to make am 10?

ChristineC:
the key word in your post is "players".
Look at the loss of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid at a time when he was the best player in the world. Can you imagine the set back if the manager was not a legend. Can you imagine how much worse the situation will be right now if David de Gea was lost to same Real Madrid? Pardon me but Manchester United claims to be a top enterprise, then they must act the part. .

I like the Real Madrid blueprint in the market over the few years. They gave off this "we will take your best" / "you can go to blazes who cares" aura; my kind of guys, and it has worked massively for them. I'd rather adopt such proven option for success than go the Arsenal way.

I actually believe that Madrid is still very unstable. apart from mourinho, when last did a manager spend more than 2 years there? Madrid has always wanted to be like Barça, have a unique brand of football, breed a lot of academy players to become world class stars such that even those kids turn out to be world class managers. 4 of the world's top 10 current managers are from Barça. They always hire their own.

But despite hiring 23 managers in 25 years, they're still yet to achieve their aim. Chelsea and Manchester United have won more than madrid in the 21st century bar club World Cup.
Madrid has no definitive pattern of football, their academy is yet to breed a world class star. They don't produce coaches from their system. There are already silent rumblings this season about zidane getting the chop because of their wobbles.

Their instability is unmatched. It wouldn't be wise to model success on Madrid. Barça remains the blue print for success in modern football.

Nihilist:
Donjazet how's that for danger from set pieces?

Lol I think it's safe to say my insecurities were misplaced but all the same I just trusted Conte and it all panned out fine.

Now I need to ask you this, at the beginning of the season, you were very skeptical about Conte and his masterplan, what say you now?? Assessing and grading him, has he convinced you totally? On a scale of one to ten, how would you grade?

Hazard!!!