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Kholiwe:
I didn't see any question.

This one which amoto reported me for?

Kholiwe:
I never brought the religion angle into it so you had no reason to bring it in. You were not objective as a learned person would and should have done.

Kholiwe, you never answered my question about this blasphemy ish? I'm waiting please.

Laugh wan kill me die. E be like say na all religious people dey mental last last. Both Christians and moslems, person no know which one foolish pass. What the fvck is this??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYtM2JmNgoI

Ellexy:
Okay lemme get this straight...

Muslims today marrying children and citing Muhammad as their benchmark correctly termed pedophiles, they're practicing pedophilia. Correct.

Also Muhammad who's footsteps they're following married a child and had sex with her... Reactions= He didn't do it, he didn't practice pedophilia, he's clearly not a pedophile.

I've told him, he's wrapping himself in a web of confusion and irrational takes.

raumdeuter:
2050 Heading the ball is now a foul
All those who head the ball are called cheats
Did Drogba foul to win the CL in 2012 and should he be termed a cheat based on the laws of 2050

This is wrong.
For instance, offsides were not a thing in football before, did they cancel the goals scored by offsides before??
Penalties were different before, did they cancel the penalty goals scored before??

Your post is illogical.

GloriousGbola:
Warning. The guy can report this id as well and then a mega ban will come in.

I swear I had forgotten i had this account, it's when I saw my very old email while trying to create a new one I saw this account.

As for him reporting this one, Well we live in a moslem's world and the world is their oyster.

Jodera:
Muslims today practicing Paedophile are at fault. .

That doesn't mean that Mohammed is a Paedophile according to his time. They are enlightened and should know better

Jesus Christ did not marry. That doesn't mean we Christianity shouldn't do so

You surely can see how you're wrapping yourself up in an entanglement of illogical webs. You are literally arguing against dictionary meanings. So if there wasn't a word for infanticide years ago, it means our forefathers didn't commit infanticide right?

Jodera:
Lol.. you call him Paedophile because dictionary says so. And that's the problem.

You're using today's dictionary to condemn ancient people for that.

I remember when I was young, the word "gay" means bright or light hearted. You can conveniently use it to compliment then, but now you can't and dictionary will back you up

You're an omnivore today but we just need a change of extremist acceptance worldwide and it'll derided just as gay is

This is false, the British still use the word gay to describe a happy or bright person. A word can mean different things. And English has its variations, American English, British, Australian etc..
That a Nigerian or American might be offended by being referred to as gay doesn't mean a British man would.

Ibime:
You done collect am hot hot

The highlighted part below can be interpreted as "don't pour sand in my business"

If you no like, go patronise someone else. Nobody pay Seun to enter Nairaland. Na only mumu dey click advert.

walahi, the thing dey pain. Seun is acquiescing to these moslems too much. I feel he has been threatened. If you see his posts on Twitter, you see a hardcore atheist, but the way he's running nairaland, with the swearing of oaths and undeserved bans like these, you get the feel this guy has been threatened for his life.

But you guys can see how my point is emphasized.

Amoto94 reported my post to the mod. The foolish mod read this post and deemed it an offense.

There was no personal insult in my post so why the ban.
I had to go and start retrieving password of an account I lost so many years ago.

Should we continue to live in a world where our free speech is stifled? Where we can't criticize a system that enables the murder of innocent citizens daily?? Nigerians we really have to open our eyes to the oligopoly of the north, else we're really at the risk of being totally subdued under the north, this is not a hyperbole.

What a shame!.

After all the twisting and turning, I'm still asking the moslems here;

What constitutes blasphemy. Who determines what blasphemy is?

All of us who mean well for our country should take these 2 questions very important.
Dayo says we can only regard our own laws, that means, crusading to rectify the laws which we know to be wrong and inconsistent with our fundamental human rights.

It's not right that people are killed over century old, archaic, despotic laws.
We are lucky to be born in an information era, one where a wide range of information is at our finger tips. Let's all Join hands together and maximize that power collectively. Lest shape our society to become better.

Itsrm:
Those images are disgusting

Very! It breaks my heart whenever I see them, which is why I'm frustrated that allies here are hijacking my narrative and diverting it to something else.

Jodera:
Exactly. Where there's no law, there's no sin.

Why should one call someone Paedophile for what wasnt in existence then

This point isn't logical. That something has not been named doesn't mean it's not bad or good. At this point, you're literally arguing about terms and definitions. Surely you see how awkward that is.

CAPdan21:
DonJ problem is this:
If it is proved scientifically that indomie causes cancer
Propagnda DonJ: Indomie causes cancer, no one should eat Indomie, they have to stop producing Indomie everywhere

Me: I have been eating Indomie since and I don't have cancer neither did my father have cancer, so it's probably not that bad

Extremist DonJ: You're a shameless Indomie eater, don't u have conscience, where is your morals, this thing is killing people but you're eating it, you have to copy me by writing a 2 page essay on Nairaland on the dangers of eating Indomie or you're supporting those killer Indomie making companies...
Replace Indomie and cancer with whatever and you'll get DonJ

But surely you can see how stupid this take is!
Your first post literally says, "it is proven scientifically that indomie causes cancer". This literally means, there is NO doubt that indomie causes cancer.
So you will now begrudge the person who decides to create an awareness about a dangerous fact??

Are you saying it's better to leave people to keep eating the cancerous food?
This just reminds me of the women who died of cancer many decades ago because they didn't know how harmful uranium was. They were playing with uranium, some using as makeup because it glows in the night.
Right now, you are castigating the person who was raising the alarm then, telling them that playing with uranium was a very bad idea.

So let me get this straight, you are criticizing my activism, even if it's for verifiable and worthy causes??
This thread funny die.

raumdeuter:
Blasphemy is talking against the religion of others but Deborah did not do that, She just mentioned who she believed made her pass and that the group should be focused on what it was created for
By todays standards Mohamed was, By the standard of his time, he wasnt
You can only be guilty of what is available at your time
As football fans, In the future there might be research into how harmful heading the ball is to the brain and Heading the ball would be outlawed totally
Sports that involve head contacts like Boxing American football might also be affected

So do we say Drogbas goals in 2012 should be invalidated because heading the ball in 2060 is now a foul?
Can we say Drogba scored through a foul?

What does this mean exactly?? I'm asking you what you will call someone who fvcks a child. Whether now or years ago? What do we call the action?

Itsrm:
The only problem with all of these is that Mohammed was supposed to be a prophet of God. God no dey talk to am say sleeping with a 9 year old no good?

If Mohammed had refused getting married to her because she was too young, something that seemed to be normal in his days, I'll probably convert to islam right away.

What we have is a man who did not know his left from his right like many others in his days. Cannot be my own prophet of God

This has been my next angle all along when a Muslim answered. you've spilled the beans.

I wanted to use the morality part for them seeing as he's an infallible figure to them. Why wouldn't the Allah's prophet know that fvcking kids was an abhorrent and despicable thing to do?
Why does he still let it happen?

Jodera:
Can you call a child who is a year old who stole money a thief??
Stole in the sense that he naively took it from his parents open purse without knowing what it is .

Do you call him a thief and condemn him or you'll just gloss over it because he doesn't know what he's doing?

I need your honest answer and not whataboutism.

You know we don't like whataboutism

There lies your answer. Yes that is literally the definition of what he did. Ignorant or not. That doesn't mean I'm judging the action. We're literally describing the action.

raumdeuter:
Even regarding slavery, Go and tell a core Bini chief that Oba of Bini is equal to the slave in his compound. Even na the slave go slap you for blasphemy

My issue with the Deborah case is that I do not see what was blasphemous about what she said. "Jesus made me pass" and "Stop posting non course related materials on this group" cannot be termed blasphemy

But this has been my ENTIRE point. I have been asking the question since, WHO DETERMINES WHAT BLASPHEMY IS?

Mohammed was a PEDOPHILE. That is a FACT! He fvcked a 9 year old and that action is called pedophilia. Is outlining a FACT eligible to be called blasphemy?

raumdeuter:
Na wetin I dey try tell Donj be that. Those times wey be say wars will have killed half of the men under 40. Females are already bethrothed to some big man by 5, immediately they see first blood na straight to marriage

The age of 18 thing na recent construct, In many plces, Its simply the girl don "mature" be the criteria

That doesn't still mean it was okay. What they did led to many girls dying before their time from complications.

But you keep diverting this issue. I'm asking you again dayo.

What do we term a person who sleeps with a 9 year old? Please answer the question.

Someone who has sex with a 9 year old, what do we call the person?

Jodera:
Calling someone a paedophile when he isn't during his/her time is an insult. Big insult to be honest.

If you eat cow meat and a law is passed that people who eat beef are called killers. You'll be very angry if everyday a small boy is calling you a serial killer cos of meat you ate while you're young.

Now do you understand context and the insults?

But he is or (was). What do you term sleeping with kids?? Please what is the name?

Okay maybe I should call him a kid fvcker.

CAPdan21:
I think I've said this before but it bears repeating...Your problem is that you think everyone have to live up to your own moral standard of what is right which is just a shortcut to extremism and fanaticism...That was how you a started a One man charade towards Roman until plenty people got annoyed and called you out on it...Where others use religion, you always try to impose your opinions and morals backed up by mostly irrelevant scientific positions on others... You're not even different from Am.oto that you like to call out

See how my narrative has been successfully derailed.

Don't be an otondo. A man who sleeps with a child is called a pedophile. The name alone isn't already an indictment of crime.
A man who kills babies has committed infanticide.
A man who who owns another person is a slave owner
A man who fvcks an animal has committed bestiality.

All these are TERMS and DEFINITIONS.

Not necessarily an indictment of morals or crime. Just the terms.

I am asking why accurately terming one's actions is bad?

My crusade here is the stiflement or free speech, not even other things.