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Ihebu4chelsea:
The thoughts of dealing with Dany Levy!! Son is Classic Player

Levy isn’t the challenge here, I think Asian players are not highly rated in Europe.

We can’t even list 3 Asian players who played and excelled in European top clubs except ManU’s Ferguson who gave few chances.

lateefGRDT:
levy na werey..

The owner right?

Omo! I don reason that player tire! Way back from 2016 when he dismantled Thibaut, even thou we drew the match from behind with the help of Hazard.

Likes of Modric, Walker and some few have left, why Son?

Can someone help me with a link where any top club has shown interest for Son?

Like, are clubs blind? The more I deep this, the more confused i get. Is this guy supposed to be in Spurs?

Godx:
Shouts of Mane for Balon dor has gone cold.

KDB and Thibaut will never top Mane on the Balon D’or list. Only Benzema can.

Get ready to cry!!!

Kovacic is gradually turning to our midfield version of Christensen.

Always injured and not fit.

Tuchel should get us a midfielder ffs

You’ve indirectly accepted that Fraudvertz is a failure in Chelsea, now you want Bayern to sign him so that he can get carried and statpad in Bundesliga.

Man is obviously tired of watching the fraud stink in Chelsea.

raumdeuter:
It's better we discuss Pep without football players

Maybe without trophies but head2head with Ole. Still better?

airmark:
Messi made Fraudiola who he is today. god of soccer will strike him if he doesn't give all the glory to the Argentine.

He’s admitted that countless times.

It’s left for his blind fans to admit the same too.

airmark:

God is my everything , but for Fraudiola?

I thought it was just normal banter until I watched two videos of Pep using Messi as an example to teach and train Mancity players.

Android22:
By singling Messi out you are implying he was the difference. That means Messi should be making that difference every year or else we can put your theory to bed abi no be so?

Messi has international trophies and UCL without Pep.

Can same be said of Pep?

Android22:
So Messi who can single handedly win multiple titles on his own has 18 UCL titles?

What are you even saying?

List Pep’s UCL without Messi and you’re busy saying what I don’t understand.

Can’t you see your fellow Pep’s fans have left you behind, knowing you’re using the route that won’t favor Pep? What has 18 got to do with Messi when you’re asked to list Pep’s ucl trophies without Messi? Wetin you dey even talk?

Android22:
Does Messi have 18 UCL titles?

Messi has UCL before and after Pep.

How about Pep?

Android22:
Just ask me when Pep will win trophies without the players at his disposal. That will make more sense. Messi has played for 18 seasons abi? Does he have 18 UCL titles?

Pep’s UCL without Messi after spending 1b+??

Is it available??

drisham:
Do you honestly mean this or you are just consoling yourself

If thats the case then Chelsea has more European trophies that your team will ever have

Since UCL isn't a MAIN priority

Same thing I’ve been asking. Sounds so embarrassing.

Android22:
Barcelona won a UCL after Pep. Yes, after Tito Villanova, Tata Martino before Luis Enrique.

Bayern won a CL after Pep. Yes, after Carlo, Jupp Heynckes again and Niko Kovac before Hansi Flick.

Avram Grant got to a UCL final directly after Mou left Chelsea. Carlo won UCL in RM directly after Mou left RM. I can go on and on.

Failure is relative my guy.

I can praise Mou for winning UCL and European trophies with different clubs and players.

I can do same for Carlo.

All can be done without dragging Pep inside, but why is it difficult for you to prove that Pep, without Messi isn’t useless in UCL without dragging Mou and Carlo.

Are you indirectly letting us know that Mou and Carlo are the standard when it comes to European trophies and achievements?

Android22:
Haba, did Mourinho and Carlo win 3 UCL titles since Pep started coaching?

Pep has failed to win the UCL with City thus far. We agree. But he is not a failure because he has still done better than every manager before him. French people call it comme ci, comme ça.

Since UCL semis is the standard you’ve placed Pep, let’s work with it.

Before Pep got appointed as a Barcelona manager, Barcelona made semis a season before Pep, won UCL 3 seasons before Pep. They made 2 semis twice in 3 seasons before Pep. Pep left them and they won UCL.

Now Bayern, Bayern made 3 UCL finals in 4 seasons, won UCL a season before Pep, made 3 semis in 4 seasons before Pep. Pep left them and they won UCL.

Now ManCity, they made UCL semis before Pep, spent 1b+ for Pep and you telling me that UCL semis is okay for Pep to be rated as a UCL guru under Mancity?

For real?? You’re actually saying Pep didn’t fail in UCL without Xavi-Inesta-Messi even after spending 1b+?

Android22:
He also lost FA Cup SF to Wigan in 2017/18. Freak results happen. Do you know Florentino Perez had texted Mancity CEO last season after Mahrez scored that this year will be City's year yet you saw that 5 mins freak show that ensued. Na so life be sometimes with cup competitions. That is why the league decides who sabi work well. Ask Mourinho when he was asking for respect showing 3 fingers. Was it 3 UCL titles he was referring to?

Lol, Mou and Carlo are bigger than Pep when it comes to European competitions.

Don’t drag Mou into this discussion please, no need using Mou to defend yourself. They’re not mates in the European achievements please.

Let’s not cross boundaries and respect bosses please.

If asked if Pep has been a ucl failure after spending 1b+ without Xavi, Inesta and Messi, would you be able to counter that?

Android22:
Failure is relative. He has reached multiple semi finals and a final. In City history, no other manager ever made a final. That is why I said he has been above average.

You actually saying it’s okay to frame the losing result of a UCL finals against Werner, Christensen and Jorginho as an achievement for a club like ManCity and a manger who has spent 1b+??

No way you’re gonna agree this with a straight face?

Android22:
Yes both Carlo and Mou won UCL titles before Pep became a manager. Since that time Carlo has won 2 and Mourinho just 1. Pep has won 2 in the same time. Only that Pep won 1 league title, 2 Copa Del Rey, 1 UCL, 1 CWC, 1 Spanish Kings Cup in the 2 seasons that he stayed when Mou was in Real Madrid. Then he came to England and outdid Mou again. Same as he outdid Carlo in Bayern and while Bayern fired Carlo they begged Pep to renew.

Alright, so let’s discuss Pep’s UCL trophies without Xavi-Inesta-Messi who have won major National tournaments and UCL without Pep.

As bantering as it may seem, don’t you think Pep has proven to be a UCL failure without these players?

No offense!! Don’t you think so?

Android22:
Success in a cup competition is relative. Pep got to back to back to back SFs in Bayern. Carlo did not do it and was fired. Hansi Flick did not do it as well.

Pep has made a CL final and a SF back to back in City. Mancini and Pelle did not do it.

Mourinho finished 10th with Chelsea and was fired. I can't bring him into a discussion with his seniors.

Mou won UCL trophies with different clubs.

Carlo won UCL trophies with different clubs.

Pep??

Android22:
He has been above average in the CL - his second priority. He is the overall best in his main target - EPL.

1b+ is cumulative right? He had won 2 EPL titles for e.g before even spending 400M. Some other managers are on their 8th season with 700M spent and they still have just 1.

I sincerely don’t care about other managers, but just discussing about Pep.

Are you saying a manager who hasn’t won UCL in 11 years after managing the best spending clubs in Germany and England has been average and not a failure?

I mean a manger who’s supposed to be ranked alongside with Carlo and Mou who has won UCL with different clubs?

Android22:
That the English League is the club's FIRST priority before any other title.

That is what the Fergusons and Shanklys etc always said until Guardiola started hoarding it. Then the narrative changed to Champion's league.

Is it safe to say that Pep has been a big and terrible failure in UCL as a City manager? Or should we spin this fact with EPL trophy that took him 1b+ to dominate?

The first question is very important to answer chief.

Android22:
At what point in the statement was the UCL not part of the objectives?

What was your primary reason for the screenshot you posted?

Android22:
What about this?

What do you gain telling yourself lies?

How can a club that spends billions say UCL isn’t part of the given objectives to a manager and you believe it? How about our natural common sense to help us detect when club owners are trying to protect the integrity and failures of a manager? Lol.

You, yourself, do you think you’re being sincere to yourself as a ManCity fan, saying UCL isn’t part of the club priorities?

Jodera:
You think I'm a big sentimentalist like you to even rank Wenger above Mou talk less of Arteta.

But I trust you na, you fit do am. Afterall, you catchè cliq go be "show me Mou golden EPL trophy" .

E no dey hard you, lai lai.

Cruise thread!!

Who’s better between Mou and Arteta? You’ve not answered it.

But Hazard is Arsenal’s problem.

A club that lost 5-1, 5-1,5-1 to Bayern in UCL.

Imagine loosing 5-1 for 3 straight against a team.

Same Bayern Chelsea, ManU and Liverpool gave an everlasting humiliation, e reach your turn, you chop 15 goals in 3 meetings.

Jodera:
of course. I'm not a sentimentalist like you who said drogba is better than R9 because of UCL then claim Kdb is greater than Zidane because of "trust me bro"
You wey claim Mane is better than Salah because of defensive abilities and interceptions. No be you again?

I don't need to like any player to say the truth and it's that simple with facts. I go always talk fact, if e pain you, bring your memes to hide your tears!!

Cruise thread

So Mourinho and Arteta, who’s better?

Jodera:
Average Chelsea fans use UCL, super cup and FIFA club world cup to brag and extol a player. Rudiger was a mainstay/starter in all the success I just highlighted but here you are praising Hazard for Ulokpa league. UCL that hazard used 7yrs to achieve as a first teamer but couldn't and have to run away to win it in another team even if it means riding the bench with seatbelt is what Rudiger used less than half the years to achieve all.

Yet you dey beef Rudiger for honouring him contract to the very end as if na sin .

Cruise thread for a reason

Stop using emojis to hide your hatred for Chelsea.

You don’t even like Rudiger, you’re supporting him now because of your hatred for Hazard.

Same way you’re ready to support any player on a debate against Drogba and Mikel.

Rest ffs! You’re an Arsenal fan and this is European cup discussion. Focus and channel your strength to the “Europa Netflix program” Arsenal is currently doing, that’s where you belong, not European discussion from fans of clubs with European trophies and achievements.

This is the Netflix comedy show, where Arsenal belong.

Your only European finals appearance in 16 years was against Hazard’s last game for Chelsea.

He humiliated and battered you, yet you’re not hating, you’re loving.

Post that Arteta is better than Mourinho and watch him jump on it to support it.

Post that Benteke is better than Drogba and watch him masturrbate on it.

Post that Chukwueze is better than Hazard and watch him jump on it.

The embarrassing part is that he never fails to add...“Disclaimer: I’m not hating on bla bla bla”

Jodera:
So you're hyping Hazard not because of what he is doing presently but what he did in Chelsea and solely what Chelsea made. It doesn't concern you weda he flops in Madrid or not as long as money comes abi.

But somehow, you turned the table for Rudiger and you're very concerned whether he flops or not because obviously him no bring money for Chelsea.
Mind you one is a UCL winner while the other never reach final in Chelsea

And you're bringing up hatred in your talk?
Who just exhibited hatred here, You or you??

Chelsea earned and still earning from Hazard transactions with Madrid after using him for 7 years.

Same can’t be said of Rudiger who left for free and was useless until Tuchel started 5 defense formation.

Why on earth would you expect an average Chelsea fan to beef hazard and hype Rudiger?

For what reason exactly?

Because of the pictures below right? Arsenal fan.