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Oh well! While I agree that it’s easy to live an honest, direct, candid and forthright life in abroad because of their good working system and opportunities.

I’ll also be telling lies if I say most Nigeria based Nigerians condemning Onyemaair here are not doing worse offline. I’ll sincerely be telling lies if i say that 90.922% of them condemning him are currently not or at some point enjoyed illegal light connections here.

All of us in Nigeria dey do mago mago offline, na smartness and connection when e favor us, but na corruption when e no favor us.

What i personally find wrong is coming online and forming motivational speaker, condemning japa gang aka J-Gang and using epistle to disturb us about PVC, whereas you’re very corrupt offline. Na that one wey no make sense.

For now, make we follow people wey dey abroad dey form tax payers and forthrightness, but we know as e dey go offline.

seankafor:
we re enlightening folks here to know it isn't always greener on the other side..

People say it like japa will automatically translate to success when you reach obodo oyibo..

On every single nigga that japad and made it, there are hundreds that japad and came back empty handed , some roaming the streets abroad with nothing to show for it..

Let no one be deceived that leaving the country will automatically make you successful..

Abroad is better.


Period!

popizaino:
See how you dey reason.

I knew everything was wrong with you when you with your useless opinion on football.

Nawao

onyemaair:
These "perks" which I enjoy is called a loophole. One that can easily be closed and enjoyed by a few.

But at the same time, it's important to note that this is not attributable to only Nigeria.
American government and UK government gave out huge sums as COVID stimulus check and at the end, more than 20 billion dollars went Missing. Tell me how that was possible if not corrupt politicians exploiting loopholes.

What about rich people in those countries who hide their money using offshore accounts?

Corruption and loophole exploitation happens everywhere. You cannot use that as a basis to denigrate Nigeria. No system is perfect.
Everyone of us have benefited from a loophole in one way or the other. That doesn't mean we shouldn't hope for things to get better.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/29/how-the-uk-government-lost-49bn-to-covid-loan

90% of lost COVID funds got stolen by fraudsters all over the world.

Only Nigerian fraudsters alone fit don loot 70%.

Stop using Western COVID lost fund to justify the corruption you were condemning yesterday.

Itsrm:
I know here in PH, PHCN marketers tell us they are paid based on how much they can bring in monthly from the cluster they manage. It's a waste of time trying to bribe them.

Who knows, maybe it works differently in Asaba

@BlueRayDick You've seen why you cannot directly compare the income of someone in Asaba with another in Lagos or PH

Dem fit dey bypass meter that you dare not do

Where in PH dem no dey bypass?

Nezzjnr:
Urinating in public and Following One Way

Ice on the cake

onyemaair:
We pay very low taxes in Nigeria. In America my poultry farm would most likely be taxed. My wife's salary is not taxed at all. Mine is deducted from the ministry but my tax is just 15k monthly. But federal government pays emoluments and allowances.

I also don't go to work everyday. The same thing with many of my colleagues. We have a system that covers for each other. I go to work only 3 times in a week.
You can't have such laxity abroad. You will work through your nose.

Lastly let me tell you the icing on the cake, I haven't paid nepa bill in 3 years. Around us we have people that rig the meter, so it doesn't read. When the nepa people come much later, we settle the staff and he goes. This cannot happen in abroad.

It’s icing on the cake not to pay Nepa bills that should help in paying some people their salaries?

You rig meter and call it ice on the cake huh?

You bribe nepa officials and call it ice on the cake right?

All of a sudden, bribery and corruption don become ice on the cake because you’re benefiting?

When i said an average Nigerian is corrupt and a criminal, it looked like I was being extreme.

donstan18:
An average Nigerian is corrupt and a criminal.

People must learn to accept this truth.

donstan18:
Now someone reasonable is getting my point.

Lol, an average Nigerian is a criminal and will gladly accept to be a hypocrite offline so long as he/she is gaining.

onyemaair:
We pay very low taxes in Nigeria. In America my poultry farm would most likely be taxed. My wife's salary is not taxed at all. Mine is deducted from the ministry but my tax is just 15k monthly. But federal government pays emoluments and allowances.

I also don't go to work everyday. The same thing with many of my colleagues. We have a system that covers for each other. I go to work only 3 times in a week.
You can't have such laxity abroad. You will work through your nose.

Lastly let me tell you the icing on the cake, I haven't paid nepa bill in 3 years. Around us we have people that rig the meter, so it doesn't read. When the nepa people come much later, we settle the staff and he goes. This cannot happen in abroad.

The level of effort you put in work here in Nigeria, are you saying if you put in the same effort abroad you’ll be earning less?

I mean less than $400 a month?

seankafor:
there is a certain level of freedom I have in Nigeria I wouldn't dream of having abroad..

I have already adapted to the life and terrains here, no matter how hard or cumbersome they re.. it's a way for life for me..
Moving to a brand new abode to start all over again is a big no for me..

I'll rather slug it out here on whatever comes my way..

Name two abeg

seankafor:
I wonder what will make someone despise his motherland so much and wish for his heritage,lineage, history, ancestory to be washed and cleansed from the face of the earth while enjoying self acclaimed safe Haven on another man's land, sweat and promises..

Omo ehh, no matter how bad naija reach, na my root, I no fit deny am.. it's more of a way of life for me..

How I go leave my fatherland, my lineage and ancestral heritage to perish in the hands of god knows who? And go to another man's land starting afresh, on what might be forcefully collected from me from either the host gorvenment or racistic indegenes..

I'll rather be a king in this jungle than a pauper in another man's land..

God forbid

The question is; Are you a king in Nigeria?

At all cost, avoid motivational speakers in Nigeria.

airmark:
Guy, are you mad?

omnipresence and omniscience.

He’s everywhere except the place and time he’s mostly needed.

Hallelujah!!

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Baba dey ginger for Obi presidency and PVC

But deep down, he knows we are all fcked either ways, and he can't wait to JAPA

So, he might probably motivate a lot of people to believe in Nigeria, and vote, only for him to be typing and replying mentions from Missouri before Feb 2023

This life get as e be [/color]

Fear anti-JAPA noisemakers

Religious people automatically becomes logical and normal because 99.376% of what they religiously pray and simp for have been met in the Western world.

But JAPA no be the option, na APC and PDP be the solution

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I wanted to say the same, but I didn't want to sound insensitive

My cousin with 4 kids and a wife travelled like 4 years ago.

He's making it look like his case is peculiar, when na him category dey get better chances sef [/color]

Lol. I no know why man go dey even dey feel day hustle stage Don pass am.

For this Nigerian wey Tinubu wan rule?

onyemaair:
So you think i should abandon my wife and kids and go to a foreign country? And also I should never vote in elections again. I should give up?

Bros I no wan send you message oo.

onyemaair:
I just told you I am in my midlife. To God be the glory, I am not hungry, I'm earning an average salary, my children are in school where I pay about 350 thousand yearly for their school fees cumulatively, although my wife subsidizes with this with her 65k salary. I pay rent of 200 thousand and at the end still pay school fees for some nephews and nieces in the village. Tell me where I would see money to plan for japa?
My only hope is to vote and hope my vote will count. You are in nigeria with me and you are shouting japa after people just died and at the same time saying you would not vote. Check am out na.

Lol. A Yoruba man who’s very skilled in a site I control travelled late last year.

He renders for me, mid fifties, was my foreman, he traveled, left his family here. According to him, his doing it for his kids.

Baba nothing concern success and age.

larride:
This makes no sense.

Finding the killers of the Owo incident and Tinubu winning Presidential election are not mutually exclusive.

Infact not finding the killers of the incident will likely dent the chances of the party in the general election.

You think oppositions won’t use the insecurity in the land to campaign against the APC? (rightly so)

I want the criminals terrorizing the country to be caught and dealt with and Tinubu still remain my preferred candidate.

This politics of a thing don dey resembles cult.

Lol, but that’s a discussion for another day.

onyemaair:
Bros normally I dey fancy your talk. You dey talk am raw. BUT this one get as e be, what do you say to a 39 year old civil servant like me who earns 128k a month? Who feeds his family of 5 and also takes care of some extended relatives?
Who currently sees no pathway for japa? And then you say, I should just give up on nigeria? I can't japa because I have Many people dependant on me and I am also above employment age in many countries. I get your point as for voting. I have voted for PDP 3 times in a row now and nothing has still changed in the country. But that doesn't mean I should not "try" to change things na.
Are you telling me to give up completely? Are you saying I should never vote again or hope for a better future? I look Rwanda and I see an African country trying to get it right, I see Egypt trying to get it right, what makes you think nigeria would never get it right. I fail to be that pessimistic.

Give up on politicians
Give up on your PVC, it’s useless.
Give up on Nigeria. It’s finished.


Keep hustling and making ends to package yourself and family, if possible, seek better opportunities, but while doing this, always keep JAPA at the back of your mind. It’s very important.

Once you prioritize something, chances of getting it executed becomes higher. There’s a reason broke ladies are using Iphone13 even where they’re very broke with less than 100k in their aza. They prioritized IPHONE, they worked towards it.

raumdeuter:
When I tell people say I dey gbadun donstan18 posts dem think say na joke.

Anytime your japa cruise carry you enter Yankee I owe you a bottle of beer

Oluwa I wan drink this beer abeg

larride:
How so?

Me mentioning US is to bring attention to the fact that a country with a huge population having insecurity issues should be looking for solutions to solve these issues and not shout of Japa. It’s clear in my post.

I have no agenda against anybody here and I drop my opinion based on my belief, it’s not my fault if most of the people on this board wear rose tinted glasses and can’t see beyond politics during any discussions.

For a thread that claims to have a lot of intellectuals, it’s disheartening.

I don’t think it’s disheartening to spill the bitter truth, given the fact that most politicians claims to give a fvck like you, about the welfare of the nation but won’t stop failing woefully.

You have no agenda against anybody here? Fine and agreed. Now let’s talk abt the selfish interest that engineered your first comment on Nihilistjnr.

The question is, if given two options..

1. Find the Owo killers and prosecute them with assurance that Tinubu won’t get the presidential ticket.

2. Forget about the Owo incident while Tinubu wins Nigeria presidential election.

Which would you choose respectfully??

Ellexy:
Speak for yourself. A working Nigeria is to our collective benefit. Nothing is too lost to be recovered and as far as Nigeria is concerned, there's still hope, I firmly believe this.

Ibime said something about being a bridge for the next generation but if we keep reasoning like this, we won't grasp the big picture and do what's necessary, at least try for posterity sake, else our generation will become worse than the elders we are criticizing now.

It’s okay for someone abroad to talk about paving generational way, but same can’t be said for someone in Nigeria.

Broski! As you dey naija, your major concern is your survival, if you’re married with kids, Na your family survival dey your mind so.

It’s just you, you, you and you alone. Fvck the fake patriotic cappings we claim online. Nobody gives a fvck about the welfare of Nigeria. It’s just ourselves.

Feel free to claim otherwise online, we know as e dey go offline.

Ellexy:
What Larride said is the truth. "Japa is not the solution to Nigeria's problems and can never be".

Nobody on this thread is against japa, but izzit the solution to this terrorism, corruption etc we are facing in this country?

The leaders have failed yes, the system is against the average young man yes, but if Nigeria will get it right, how is japa the solution?

Nobody here cares about Nigeria’s solution. It’s some selfish shiit! We want solutions and ways to give ourselves and coming generations good life and JAPA is the way.

Me and you no send Nigerians once we travel.

larride:
But that is the THING.

Since this discussion started, I have not mentioned any politician or a political party. I only expressed my opinion about how japa cannot be the solution for the whole country with the kind population we have.

I did not ask anyone to vote for any candidate or any political party.

Nobody sincerely gives a fvck about the solution to Nigeria because there’s none.

Both of us knows this.

While I’ve respected and keep respecting your civil and reasonable way of engaging debates, but you’ll be telling yourselves lots of lies if you say your first quote on Nihilistjnr wasn’t engineered with little sprinkles of political views and selfishness.

No condemnation of what happened, no remorse, just direct USA comparison and usual “insider” cappings from politicians.

Ellexy:

Nezz said the truth on that.

Go to Twitter, you’ll see lots of them.

Next thing, they’ll snap abroad and caption it “Mama i made it”.

The reason I’m not against Larride is because I’ll be selfish too with my opinion if i was a very active deep party man.

If you want to JAPA, I’ll tell you to relax that Tinubu is here for you, that he’s the solution and will create a secured and conducive environment for you, I’ll even tell you that he’ll turn Nigerian to America or UK in less than 7 days.

What need to be said must be said to keep the political ministry and interest going. This is why I’ll never risk my life to vote for a Nigerian politician.

Japa is the way!!!!

Segedinho:
The working system is d gov the we must create thru voting

PVC is useless in Nigeria

Segedinho:
That is why u must "trying"


A working system is hinged on good leaders....

It actually in Yankee that a teen went into a school a d started shooting sporadically killing more than 18 children....


Did japa saved them,.

So what then is the essence of japa if you can still die of bullet wounds

Death is inevitable.

But at least experience good life and working system before you die.

Segedinho:
Oh.....

U no be average Nigeria nah.....

Baba japa comot o....no forget dey send me dollar o

Lol.Most Nigerians dey exist and not living.

I remember thinking like you that having money and enjoying an average life is very okay in Nigeria, but... but...

Nothing beats a working system.

Joezinho:
This guy na clown.

Once you start getting much social media love and waves as a politician, just know that you’re on your way to failure because most social media noisemaking PVC merchants no dey vote.

Na so so noise!!

Segedinho:
How do u keep trying when obviously you are burning the funds u earned to get your self together.


Keep japa at the back of ur head and work yourself to be free and 100% independent.

Save your funds or better still invest and keep trying to get a good leader...

Japa once you are 100% sure of ur income and opportunity..

Lmao! Funds dey drop, we dey burn am.

We’ll keep burning it for the right thing so long as it’s coming.

Segedinho:
Baba..i believe u don't accept gradual process nor d world "try"..


U japa only when you can..but presently if u can't there must be another step to take just to stay a bit okay.

I don't give a damn about any politicians and promises but i still live to try.

I never wanted to vote but then not voting is actually worse cos u are accepting anything you see

From peter to tinubu to atiku......from perspective of Nigerian politicians they are thieves...but outa d thieves i personally think there is an odd one and i just wonna "try"

If you can’t JAPA, keep trying till you can.

Regarding the voting, I will never leave my comfort zone, drive down to a polling unit, risk possible bloodshed and massacre by thugs, risk my life when I have a choice, stand under the sun for hours, drag line, sweat just to vote for a NIGERIAN POLITICIAN. Never!!

The difference between me and most Okwute’s fans is that both of us won’t vote, but I won’t be ashamed to say it that I won’t vote.