European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 10:05pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: The two complete seasons both had so far... If you want I can bring their stats this season too... What happened to their appearances, I don't feel like bringing up pics again...You can do that and show us on here like I did ...
These are their career stats...Any objective person can easily see who the better player is... Between Lukaku and Salah, who’s got higher G/A? Who’s older?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 10:03pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
viktor88: Henry had more career goals than Shearer. Those players won more trophies than Kane but they are not more known than him. They are same in popularity. Kane is a striker. I judge him base on the goals he scores and still scoring and doing it from a smaller club which is even difficult is a plus. You can’t rate Henry above Shearer because of trophies and then not rate Aguero, Drogba and Van Persie ahead of Kane. Stop confusing us. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:53pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
Ibime: These are awards backed by numbers, not by story. Two European golden shoes there should shoe you.
Don't let Raumdeuter come and show you Drogbas multiple single digit goal seasons here Lol, shea Na here we dey? I’ll be here when your favorite stat-less players will be dragged and you’ll try to tell us the importance of watching matches and not comparing with stats.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:46pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
Ibime: Every season.
Below are Henry's achievements while in EPL. Drogba never even won PFA Player of the year. Now it’s all about PFA, if we should use UEFA award Jorginho won against Hojubeggi of Spurs, you’ll said it’s polling booth.  You’ll say awards that depends on voting shouldn’t count. Even Xavi no spin pass you. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:41pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
viktor88: Henry is better than shearer. Henry was not known only in EPL. He did very was for club and country. He won everything with France. Won second world Best. Won all the major trophy in football for both club and country.
Kane is playing in in lower club than all these guys you compared and scored many goals. More than some of them. Yes he's better. Henry is better than Shearer for the reasons you gave in your first paragraph right? How then is Kane better than Aguero, Rooney, Van Persie and Drogba who won more than him, got recognized more than him and known more than him? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:35pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
Ibime: Go and ask Ronaldo son who is better between Ronaldo and Messi
Drogba that let a Lampard outscore him 6 seasons out of 8
Like I said, don't set out legends up for a dragging How many times did Lampard outscore Mata when they played together? Who do you rate? All of a sudden, goals and assists now matters to you?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:33pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
When he can defend, he’ll drop epistle to defend his opinion. But when he can’t, he’ll post screenshot of Drogba’s son.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:31pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
Ibime: A man who can't win an argument in his own household should not bring that argument outside Wetin be this? So Drogba’s son made you think he’s beneath Ronaldo and Henry in Epl?
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:29pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: Career goals and assists now is it.. No more Epl, no more appearances.. Just career goals and assists... Stay at a place...If you run around too much, you won't know where you stand again...  Have you finished looking at the defensive stats I just furnished you with yet?  Defensively and offensively, Lukaku will body Salah. You had to bring 2 seasons out of their career to push agenda, you even had to cut out their appearances just to push agenda. Fall out their career goals and assists, let’s see. That, alone can make me believe that Salah is better than Lukaku. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:24pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
viktor88: If he's a better goal getter. Yes Who’s a better player? Which one be goal getter?
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:23pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
viktor88: Compare players that played same position. Only Aguero, Kane, Henry and drogba can be compared as point nine. Safe to say Kane>> Drogba, Van Persie and Aguero? Cool to say Henry>> Allan Shearer? Using your golden boots analogy. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:17pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: Okay.. 2017/18 2018/19 How exactly did Lukaku contribute more defensively to his team... I won't type or debate their offensive capabilities with you... You’ll be shocked by their career G/A.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:16pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: Okay.. 2017/18 2018/19 How exactly did Lukaku contribute more defensively to his team... I won't type or debate their offensive capabilities with you... Can I see their appearances? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:14pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
viktor88: Henry is far ahead of Drogba in Epl impact. He's the only one with four golden boots. He scored more than him and was the biggest EPL player during the prime. Harry Kane has 3 golden boots, remind me the number of golden boots Ronaldo, Rooney and Aguero won? I want to check the better player? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:09pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
MorataFC:
 To start with I'm not in support of 'a' or 'b' But Football stats has done more evil than good in the history of the game, if u argue that player 'a' is better than player 'b' they will ask u what has he achieved, how many trophy has he won, if he is that good his team shouldn't be where it is, they will be bringing some facts that lack the truth . For example, if someone has pointed out last season that Aaron Ramsdale is better than some of the epl keepers even i personally would have said why cant he save his teams from relegation but look what he's doing with arsenal now, the team you play for defines you and redifines u. Can Edouard Mendy be brought to limelight if he still stays in Stade Rennes? Can he win UEFA best keeper award? Can Jorginho win uefa best player (though some of us think he doesn't deserve it) if Chelsea crashed out from ucl @ group stage? The was a time Victor Valdez won best keeper in laliga over Iker Casillas  Valdes dat i cant allow to keep for my female team 
But Oga u wise oh, see diversion, oga Raumdeuter raised an issue about Rice and beans, u no respond, u just veered from the road and everyone just follow u  This is why I strongly believe Salah is doing well because he’s playing for Liverpool, under an offensive manager. He’s just like Messi, pure failure with different shirt. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 9:06pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]EPL?
Salah
[/color] Overall? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:59pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]Salah is currently better than Drogba in the EPL
So, wetin you wan use Lukaku and Kane do?
Bring out their goal contributions and you have your answer. I no dey type with emotions and impacts. I like proof [/color] Why you dey run?  Salah and Drogba, who’s better? Stop being selective with leagues and tournaments. Who is/was better as a player |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:53pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: Okk..So let's leave Drogba now, Lukaku is better than Salah because he defends and isn't lazy right?? Yea, defensively and offensively, Lukaku is better. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:52pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]Salah has more EPL goals than Drogba
Abi no be EPL this discussion dey on since?[/color] Drogba and Salah, who is/was better? Note: Lukaku and Kane will be used against you if you misyarn.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:43pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: Ok, so because he doesn't defend, he won't excel under coaches like Conte right? And you're saying Drogba is better than him because of this? Lukaku is better than Salah. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:40pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: Are you saying Salah doesn't defend? I’m not saying, it’s a fact.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:37pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]Goals and Assists, because they are both forwards
You guys have said forwards thrive differently under defensive managers
So what metric will I use to screen those that can excel and those that can't
Shot saved?[/color] So Salah has more career goals and assists than. Drogba, Lukaku and Kane?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:31pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: Are you trolling me now?? Helps them defend...Na Atilogwu en wan dance b4? Salah has no business with defending, don’t even go there. Mane? Yea, he does. Salah? Capital NO!! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:30pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]So, if I want to do a comparison between Salah and Lukaku or Kane, what metric should I look out for
Shot blocked Interception Goals conceded
What exactly?
Because if I goal contributions, he won't fail the test.
So what defensive metric should I use?[/color] What metric did you use to rate Salah ahead of Drogba? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:18pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
Make Salah retire first, we’ll one day table their career stats with the likes of Lukaku and Kane. Someone who’s yet to beat their stats.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:16pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
AnfieldFan: Salah didn't start excelling under Klopp, he has excelled in every club he has played for since Chelsea... Saying Salah doesn't track back is a lie....He tracks back to help his wingback, so he isn't lazy... Helps them do what exactly? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:16pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]Give me an example of a Forward that is excelling under a defensive coach[/color] Drogba did. Hazard did. Lukaku did. Cr7 did. Costa did. Eto did. Kane did. Lots of them. Salah can’t excel where Mane will excel. Mane can comfortably play under any kind of manager, not even Salah will be bold enough to wish playing under Mou, Conte or Simeon. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 7:56pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
popizaino: I don't want to get involve in this Drogba/salah's comparison,because both are my favourite players. What of Marcelo and Roberto Carlos? Who would you like Chelsea to sign now?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 7:55pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
popizaino: Point out the contradiction in my comment 
How is the klopp input the same as time which is not exclusive to klopp alone.Now let me spell it out to you plainly, the difference between salah under klopp and under mourinho is time, time, time . Time? Salah can't excel under defensive managers. He’s a quality player and I’m not discrediting that, but he won’t excel under a defensive manager, given the way he plays. Some players are like that, they are defensively lazy and finds it difficult in doing well under defensive minded manager. Don’t act like you don’t understand me. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 7:48pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
popizaino: Remind what they say about one eye man in the community of blind men again? Blind men that won Ucl, yea? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 7:47pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
popizaino: Die that thought immediately, nothing like klopp's pattern, was already predicted to be big by me if given the time and that is what that defensive minded manager didn't give him not pattern pls. You’re contradicting yourself. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 7:46pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
Ibime: By their age, we shall know them .
Even Drogbas son told him Henry is better As usual, when you drop bullshit as opinion and get called out, you start spinning like some ancient of days. How’s Drogba below Ronaldo and Henry In Epl. It’s a simple question. How are their impacts in Epl bigger and better than Drogba’s? In what aspect? |