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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:55pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
He had Kabak(relegated with Porto) and Philips as CB's against Benzema...
Compare and contrast..
Why didn’t his attackers outscore Vinicius?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:50pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
He has justified the wait..

5 seasons, 4 trophies... That's success isn't it..
And Zidane?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:48pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
New question...
I've answered yours..
If you want the stats argument, I'm sure I can convince if you want...

For Starters, who's better .. Iniesta or Lampard?
I’ll pick Lampard.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:46pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
5 1/2...

Club world cup
Super league
Champions league
Premier league..
Help me check Zidane’s.

No vex, just help me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:44pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
This is agenda.. undecided
Fact or not?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:44pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
When klopp won't have a basket called keeper Karius who will dash them 2 goals
He had Karius as a keeper against Zidane last season?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:41pm On Oct 29, 2021
raumdeuter:
Pep's wife did not want him to win abi na only Klopp get wife wey sabi want something?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:34pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
Klopp finished 3rd in the premier league and made quarters without his C B's...

Klopp won Barca in the semi finals without Salah, Firmino and a Robertson that got injured minutes into the game...

He beat Bayern on his way to that UCL and the previous season, he got to the finals..
We don't need to talk of what he did with Dortmund in the Champions league
End product bro? End product!! At the end of all these you listed, what happened? How many of those tournaments did he win?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:33pm On Oct 29, 2021
raumdeuter:
Zidane first tenure. 2.5yrs 3 CL 1 league
Second tenure 1.5yrs 1 league titles
Total 4yrs 3 CL 2 leagues

Mou 3 seasons 1 league title
Zidane batter than Pep, yea?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:32pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
For starters, Paul Merson and Timo Werner regard Klopp as the best manager currently...
Now, who rates Zidane higher than Klopp
Stats rates Zidane as a better manager.

Between stats and opinion, which should be regarded as fact?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:31pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
When Your account been debited every week without any source of inflow, no matter how prudent you're, sapa must hold you and with time you go go village.

Now that klopp can hold is best players and attract his choice of players, we can see how deadly his team is
How many year has Klopp managed Liverpool and how many trophies?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:26pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
Klopp got to the Europa finals the season he became Manager, and it was just one final..
What could he do with a Mainz that had no money, the first time Mainz pleyed in the Bundlesliga since there existence came courtesy of Klopp..
B4 Klopp came, we hadn't won the league in 30 years...It doesn't matter if he had 10 years, the point is he did something unprecedented...
Klopp has been relegated and that’s a fact.

Klopp has lost more finals than he has won and that’s a fact.

Name one elite coach that has such stat. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:21pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
Tuchel has beaten Pep 3 times!
I still don't believe he's tactical or better than pep
When will Klop beat Zidane?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:20pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
He left when the ovation was loudest and because Bayern poached his players..
Why didn't Pep stay with Bayern
Why isn't Zidane still dominating Europe with Madrid..
Since Ronaldo left, has he won the Champions league..
Klopp beat a Barca that had Messi without key players.
Roma beat a Barca that had Messi and Inesta with old De Rossi and Dzeko.


Zidane made UCl semis and won Laliga without Ronaldo, something Ronaldo won only once before Zidane took charge, when will Ronaldo make Ucl Semis after playing for Zidane.

Zidane dominated Europe and Klopp was one of his victims, tell me when Klopp will ever boss Pep, Zidane and Sevilla to win a a tournament.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 5:15pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
If top football pundits and coaches have an opinion, I will go for their opinion as compared to yours...
Quick question, who's better
Zidane or Pep
Pundits like? cheesy cheesy

Why not tell me the pundit who rated Zidane’s achievements lesser than Klopp’s.

You no answer my question, but want me to answer yours, you never serious.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:45pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
Pep.
Pep has done it more than once, Ranieri has done it only once.

Pep is dominating the league consistently while ranieri did(as that was his only win)
What chased Klopp from Bundesliga? Why didn’t he keep dominating??

Zidane ruled Europe and Spain throughout his days managing Madrid, he’s a god in the record settings, humiliated almost all the top coaches before winning Ucl.

Don’t fvxk with him.

He’s way clear.

Klopp isn’t a bad coach, but he’s not in any way qualified to be compared to Zidane.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:43pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
The popular opinion every where is that the top two managers in world football currently are Klopp and Pep....

Zidane doesn't factor in... Sorry...
Opinions are not fact.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:37pm On Oct 29, 2021
BlueAngel444:
leave them na, no mind them. I like klopp but the level of disrespect Zizou gets eh.

Klopp had a great XI at the UCL final yet he lost to Zizou, all this players Zizou managed were in their 30s
Na last season off me.

Zidane used Vinicius to humiliate Klopp
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:33pm On Oct 29, 2021
How can you even day Klopp is better than Zidane?

How? In what aspect? In managing academy boys? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:31pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
Pep has pedigree else were...If Klopp wins the league this season and Pep leaves after this season without the Champions league... Klopp's stint in England would be regarded as more successful.
Bros Shea you know you didn’t answer the question?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:27pm On Oct 29, 2021
raumdeuter:
Klopp did the same thing Wolfsburg and Stuttgart did. They caught Bayern at a period of weakness and won the league

By 2013, Klopp was finishing 25points behind Bayern

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:24pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
1... Dortmund won their last trophy in 2001/2002. So it took them 10yrs in the wilderness and a different breed of players before they could win it again with klopp and you want to sweep that under the carpet?? It's like arsenal winning the league next season and then their fans claim it's normal cos Wenger last won it 2004. Lol

2... How many finals did he bottle
1 carabao cup in his debut season
1 Europa in his first full season
1 Cl final in his 2nd season

While you see bottling, I'm seeing progress. Little wonder he won the league and Cl after his 2nd full season.

You'll call his Dortmund Cl loss as another bottling, but you fail to talk how he waya Bayern 6-1 in the finals in their German fa cup alongside winning the league. This una "klopp is failure finalist" won't fly


3... Which coach no dey get issue with star players sometimes? Is it having issues with players OR resolving the issues after that is the koko?
Klopp and Mane have resolved their issues, so why are you still saying they're having issues?

moreover, let's close our eyes to the fact that Zidane and bale no get issues.

Lastly, I'm not talking about grassroot here. Pep is one of the best coach in world football same as klopp. Zidane no be their mate. Make zidane go drag with tuchel
Ranieri won Epl with Leicester with less expensive players.

Pep won Epl with ManCity after spending millions on players.

Between Pep and Ranieri, who’s better?

Bros Na direct answer I need. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:22pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
Which Madrid pressure, he has made and managed stars...Who told you he's fighting with Mane, na so una the carry unverifiable news everyday..
Winning the Bundlesliga with Dortmund in a Bayern dominated decade twice is greater than winning the La liga... Madrid is a traditional La Liga power house, they have the money, they can't stay away for long from that title. Winning it is a formality just like Bayern winning the Bundlesliga is...
On to the Champions league, I'm pretty sure before the retire from active management, he will have more than Zidane...
Winning Ucl 3 straight is greater than anything Klopp has done in his managing career.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 4:20pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:
This makes no sense...
Klopp took a Mainz team that basically had no budget and brought them mid table in the Bundlesliga..
Took a Dortmund that hadn't won the Bundlesliga in years and gave her two titles while making world class players..Klopp made Dortmund a reputable name in Europe again..
Liverpool won our last trophy in 2012, he gave us the Champions league, premier league after a 30 year wait and other trophies... He's an overachiever and everybody and their grandfather know Klopp's miles above Zidane....
Klopp relegated Mainz.

Whatever you feel Klopp did for Dortmund, Zidane did it thrice/twice for Madrid. cheesy

Klopp didn’t succeed immediately with Liverpool, it took him close to 3 years while getting embarrassed and humiliated by Sevilla in Europa finals, same can’t be said of Zidane who made Madrid ruthless in Europe.

Ffs Zidane left Madrid, they struggled, he came back and won Laliga. grin grin

Don’t you get the point?

This Zidane Fvckin humiliated Klopp back to back to back, Klopp Na small boy to Zidane when it comes to achievements, H2H and trophies.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 3:55pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
With all due respect, A big Yes!!!!
He's proven it at Dortmund wen Bayern were at the top of their game, not only winning their cups but also the league twice. He did at at Liverpool also, winning both the league and champions league.
All these while he did it while the respective clubs where at their lowest ebb in years(not just a year or 2), and he made them a dominant and attacking team that is feared(not a team parking the bus like Simeone). Only someone who's highly tactical can do that

There's a reason why he's one of the top 3 coaches in the world.
Klopp wasn’t the first manager to win Bundesliga for Dortmund, I stand to be corrected.

That m’dafuqa kept on messing lots of finals up like he’s cursed. All thanks to Mou who he learnt that act of parking bus to win Spurs in 2019 to win Ucl.

There’s absolutely nothing new he did for Dortmund, the problem with most of you is y’all don’t value people when they achieve something with proper requirements, una dey prefer when people suffer front and black to achieve something, una like stress, same reason people love Wizkid more the Davido. Grass to grace, Na Wetin una dey like, suffering.

Zidane and Klopp no be mate.

Achievements, head2head, trophies and any metric you’ll wanna bring here, he’ll comfortably beat Klopp.

Klop wey never manage Mane finish, Na Ronaldo, Marcelo, Ramos, Benzema, Modric and other world class players he wan manage.

Can Klopp deal with Madrid pressure??

Una dey fvck up walai!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 3:48pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
1..He didn't do it once unlike the other managers you called.
2... He not only won the league more than once, he also won the cup
3... He made Dortmund feared in Europe (UCL) and not just in league alone, something Ranieri and Lille's coach didn't do.
4... Liverpool is one of the best team in England and in Europe thanks to klopp. Before klopp, they weren't at this height.

Everyone knows the top2 teams in Spain are barca and Madrid, everyone knows Madrid is a very strong club in Europe (perennial semifinalists). While Zidane did something extraordinary (3peat) and winning the league (2ce), he still met a very good club at the top of their game.
Alright, let’s talk about achievements, head2head and records.

You in?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 12:21pm On Oct 29, 2021
eph12:
tougher than what he did with Dortmund?
What did he do at Dortmund? cheesy

Winning the league? Same thing Ranieri did in Epl? Same thing Jocelyn did last season in France with Lille?

Maybe, just maybe, Ranieri and Jocelyn are better than Zidane because they won the league with less quality squad. cheesy cheesy grin

Zidane might not be a world class manager, but he brought stability in Madrid, he’s the reason Madrid looks competitive in that Laliga now.

Left, came back and won the league, made Ucl semis last season with inexperienced players.

He has even beaten Klop black and blue several times. cheesy

Una go dey reason manager less less because he managed world class players, can Klopp manage that Madrid squad? Can he successfully manage them without issues? Person wey still dey fight with Mane grin grin

Zidane is better than Klopp. Bring any metric you want and I’ll beat you. Zidane is way clear.

By stats, by achievements, by H2H, anyhow wey you wan use check am, he’s clear.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 2:12pm On Oct 27, 2021
pamcode:
who was the last academy player to score an hattrick?
I think the 2009 or 2010 record association with Mount being an academy player is “Ballon D’or nominee” after Terry or so.

Made a mistake.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 8:54am On Oct 27, 2021
Almajirihunter:
Seriously?
Fact.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 11:26pm On Oct 26, 2021
cheesy cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 11:15pm On Oct 26, 2021
I dey list fact of what Mount has done and achieved in Chelsea, you dey quote me with screenshot of Opinions coming from your fellow extremist and lunatics on Twitter.

I know how pained you feel, it hits differently when you realize that Mount has the highest G/A for Chelsea this season.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by donstan18: 11:12pm On Oct 26, 2021
Leyqute:
If he wants to be a good pk taker, he has to improve on his technique.
You are 100% right.

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