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timbros:
Shebi you were asking if any body is marking Zouma?

Is this guy marking Mikel?

timbros:
How do you know it was Zouma he was trying to protect and not Jorginho?

airmark:
So why didn't you blame Rudiger for this pass to Silva, seeing that Mendy was a safer option?

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I asked donstan18 he never answered me. His other moniker User09 claimed that Tuchel blamed Zouma, he is yet to quote where he did.

I just don't have time to bring gifs of similar passes that Rudiger, Azpi, Chris, Silva gave to players in tighter spaces and nobody criticized them.

macjireh:
after that game against Sheffield,, we have not had any more own goals or defense errors leading to goals,,the defenders have learnt and corrected demselves...u may mention westbrom,,but d error Neva lead to an immediate goal only a red...talking about position,, rudiger was not even in his rightful position wen he got d OG... on a good day,,rudiger from his position will not make dat zoumas pass to jorginho ....football is not basketball,,d better side will always win in a basketball game even if there's just one mistake goal,,a very little mistake could mean a lot in football....d manager must get his lineup right and every player must get his decisions on and off d ball right everytime,,else a good team will just lose painfully

swiz123:
Kepa should have gone back to his right side since Zouma didn't pass the ball to him anymore. Jorginho normally wasn't supposed to pass to Kepa's left side. Players pass to their GKs strong foot without looking many times. Zouma and Kepa fuccked Jorginho.

The layman's blame falls on Jorginho. But we ain't laymen here...

airmark:


What stopped Rudiger from passing to Mendy below? I know most of you would have blamed Silva below if he did a Jorginho here.

Would you have blamed Rudiger if this had led to a goal as Mendy was off his line just like Kepa?

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airmark:
If you know Tuchels tactics and watched how Arsenal refused to be dragged out of defensive positions, you will understand why Zouma did that.

You can't tell me that the CB that gave Kante this pass below didn't have options to play a lofted pass to the flanks himself.

It's a tactical play to drag opponents out and get their numbers depleted for one attacker to pick up the subsequent pass and run at defence.

Tochex101:
Relax nwanne, Tuchels body language will tell us his thoughts.
Zouma just booked front row seats for the sell list.
We have 3 more defensive options in Tomori, Sarr and the Academy kid.

timbros:
Stop saying this.

Zouma's didn't force Jorginho to make an error. Delaying before giving a pass is NOT wrong. That's part of build up play. You can delay to consider making a penetrative forward pass BUT if that path is closed down, you can then make the basic pass.

Zouma made a basic direct pass to Jorginho. Entirely on his own, Jorginho made an error.

Did you see Jorginho's reaction after the goal? Did you see Kepa tapping Jorginho shoulder after the goal in a bid to encourage him? Why didn't he go and encourage Zouma?

Neobulletzz:
Watch the goal from here, Zouma had options too, he was partly at fault

It could have been avoided

https://twitter.com/cfcpys/status/1392599056103481344?s=21[/quote]Omo e tire me mehn!

How can someone watch that goal and not blame Zouma for being stupid and indecisive.

Ibime:
We play that pass many times a game. The expectation there is to give it to the keeper if you can't do a half-turn

He fücked up the pass to the keeper partly because he has no confidence in his half-turn. A better midfielders first instinct will be to feint for the half turn and spin out. If he has confidence in doing that, he won't rush to pass to the keeper like the ball is a hot potato and fück his pass up

airmark:
We are not saying the same thing.

That's how they were trained to play from behind and in such manner, so that when they break with the ball, the opponents would have more players beaten in our half and their defenders in trouble.

You can't tell me that you never shouted 'kick out' while fearing that opponents were about stealing balls from us in tight spaces before today.

hensben:
Mendy too

airmark:
I hope you saw that image i attached. There was nothing wrong in the pass given to him as they have been drilled by Tuchel on how to receive and break from high press in tight spaces. In fact Jorginho wasn't even in a tight space there.

Go and watch the match and see how our defenders passed to Gilmour and Jorginho, in fact all our midfielders in tight spaces and nobody blamed anybody as none didn't result in goal.

The blame is only on Zouma because of Jorginho's error, and i can tell you for free that Tuchel will definitely not blame Zouma.

airmark:
You guys are funny. I had seen Jorginho receiving passes in tighter situations than below and decided well. I was surprised to be seeing you guys blaming Zouma as if even in this match all our defenders didn't make similar passes in tight spaces to break the presses.

Jorginho is the sole carrier of this blame and he knows it.

MorataFC:
... and u thin Dani Levy will allow him to go?
That man na kubati

airmark:


You are now desperate. You should be ashamed of yourself trying to hold on to straws to stay afloat in the midst of Ls that have drowned you recently.

Did you watch the match at all? Why should Zouma take the blame of Jorginho's fault in this match?

I didn't blame Rudiger for scoring an own goal in Sheffield's match, because i knew it could happen to anyone and he is better than Boathand.

Ladyhippolyta88:
Donstan

BlueMann:
I think Kepa's positioning for the pass was a bit suspect. I personally felt perhaps he was too far away from his goal. Its harsh to blame him, yes, but maybe he could've been a bit better with his positioning.

Zouma and Jorgo are the main culprits, especially Zouma.

BlueMann:
I really don't know why Gilmour was taken off anyways.

CHO didn't have the desired effect today. However, he wasn't useless.

Pulisic buzzed but did no damage.

Mount was our main goal threat in the first half but he cooled off. Unlucky not to score. And I liked how he occasionally provided those runs from midfield. Nevertheless, he was ineffective in the second period.

Don't like picking MOTM in a game we lost, but perhaps Billy and Silva were the mist impressive performers for me. Billy's forward passing is really good, and Silva has this superb awareness when dealing with loose balls first time, hardly do you see him clearing an aerial ball anyhow, he just calmly redirects it to a teammate.

Zouma, Jorgo and Kepa all deserve blames for that goal, albeit to varying degrees.
That was our eight unforced error, only Liverpool have more.

Anyways, we had rotten luck today. We still dey kampe.

We fall, we rise, we meuvee

BikeMan:
It's not going to be like this against Leicester.

Elnino4ladies:
On a flip side, we lost to Arsenal in 2012