₦airaland Forum

Blunt99:
Nothing is gonna change in 4 months.

I agree that he can rig himself into a second term.

It is not new as that was exactly how he got selected in 2023.

But the economic results will get worse, and very worse, even if he is given another 10 years.

A fantastically corrupt person can't make any positive impact in a country with corruption as a primary drawback.

The US-Iran war is the cause of the latest crises.

Let the war end tomorrow and see things normalize almost immediately

But then I see the FG pulling the joker of unconditional cash transfer to all Nigerians as I have been advocating in a thread.

Oracleee:
Give an instant of the change on the macro economy. Did you know Inflation rate became higher again in the last few days? Bro, we rely on importation for every damn thing so what's the change if not paper change. Let's talk lived reality which is what Nigerians can feel. So called minimum wage can't even fill my car fuel tank talk more of servicing etc..... please be balanced and real in your defense not just political.


I support subsidy remover that the way Tinubu went about it is just so inhumane and have caused more harm than good. Perhaps you among the fortunate few that can still eat well enough, but I went to central market in Kaduna of recent to do shopping and i realised how bad things are. Funny things are relatively cheaper In Kaduna than most southwest hence I wonder how families over there are having it...... But then, you can't pity who isn't seeing problems.

The current hardship is caused by the US-Iran war.

That's why I created a thread that the FG should give all Nigerians monthly unconditional cash transfer during this trying time for the WHOLE WORLD till situation nornalises.

https://www.nairaland.com/8756952/subsidy-alternative-fg-should-unconditional

There is nothing like partial subsidy removal.

Several presidents tried it and it failed.

anonimi:
Was it the turn of the south in 2011 when Jonathan was elected president

Was it the turn of the south in 2003 when Atiku foolishly refused to cede to northern pressure for 1999 bankrupt, ex-convict Obasanjo to honour his one term promise like Mandela

Atiku’s foolishness 23 years ago, is partly why southerners would have been president for 17 years and northerners only for 11 years by next year.


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Around November 2002, 15 of the 21 Governors from the PDP including me, had an ad hoc meeting at my lodge in Abuja to decide who should be nominated by the Governors Committee for election by PDP as the presidential nominee for the 2003 Election.

The Governors Committee decided almost unanimously to get a new candidate instead of President Obasanjo as the Committee was of the view that because of his military background, he was intolerant of dissent and had displayed very dictatorial and vindictive tendencies against those he perceived to be independent-minded and disloyal to him.

Immediately after the Governors meeting, I led the delegation of Governors to meet the then PDP Chairman, Chief Audu Ogbeh, at his residence around 2 am.

As the leader of the delegation, I spoke and communicated the views of the Governors to the Chairman, which was that the Governors had decided not to support President Obasanjo as PDPs nominee for the 2003 General Election.

The party chairman tried to persuade us to review our decision but when he saw our resolve, he told us that he would inform the President. I was later informed by Chief Audu Ogbeh that after we left his house he put an urgent call to the President and informed him of our decision.

What then followed were intense consultations before the PDP annual convention which took place in January 2003. Two days before the party convention, the Governors had a breakfast meeting with President Obasanjo.

I recall that at that meeting, the then Vice President Alhaji Abubakar Atiku told the President in the presence of the Governors that he was known to be very dictatorial, vindictive and unforgiving. The President appealed to the Governors to support him and assured both the Governors and the party leadership that if he was allowed to continue for the second term, he would adopt a more democratic approach.

On the basis of the President's assurance, given at that breakfast meeting, I led the move for the Governors to support his presidential nomination for the second term. However, notwithstanding my support for President Obasanjo's nomination for a second term, the President after the nomination, acted very shabbily towards me.

When I met him soon after the convention, he told me that he had learned that I had put forward the view that he was unsellable, unmarketable and unelectable. He then vowed that he was going to make sure that I was unsellable, unmarketable and unelectable.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/09/ibori-fights-back/

Atiku Camp - Visit Wikileaks and type the following in the search bar NIGERIA: DID VP ATIKU OUTFOX BABANGIDA AND OBASANJO DURING THE PDP CONVENTION?

According to Adesanya, Atiku met the governors the first day of the convention; they urged him to leave Obasanjo and seek the nomination himself. Atiku demurred; he also deflected the suggestion that he join Ekwueme. Finally, Atiku arranged a meeting between Obasanjo and the now irate governors. The governors railed that Obasanjo was hypocritically pursuing them for corruption, while turning a blind eye to corrupt politicians within his own Administration. Atiku supported the governor's position, telling Obasanjo that significant corruption was not the exclusive ambit of the governors and that serious transgressions occurred in the executive branch: he said it would be unjust to focus exclusively on gubernatorial excesses. Assuming the role of mediator, Atiku then asked both sides to affirm their mutual support and cease the antagonism being fueled by elements that wanted to destroy the PDP. The governors agreed to bury the hatchet, if Obasanjo would shelve the dossiers. Having demonstrated his influence with the governors, Atiku continued to play coy with Obasanjo.

In the end, Atiku extracted an extraordinary concession from the President. Obasanjo agreed to relinquish the entire domestic agenda to Atiku, including the appointment of key economic policy-makers. Since Obasanjo focused on the world arena during his first term and aspired for recognition as an international statesman, Atiku said that is where he would like Obasanjo's attentions to remain. Obasanjo would serve the role of a "super Foreign Minister" and ceremonial Head of State. As Adesanya understood the agreement, Atiku would be allowed to direct domestic economic policy while Obasanjo busied himself with debt relief, NEPAD, conflict resolution and other measures to shore up Nigeria's image abroad.

OBJ camp - visit Wikileaks and type the following in the search bar NIGERIA: DIFFERENT INSIDER VIEWS ON THE PDP CONVENTION

The President was dazed, Abayomi recalled. Jarred by the unexpected possibility of defeat, the usually know-it-all Obasanjo eagerly solicited counsel on how to escape the closing vise. Early that day, the dominant theme was to seek a court injunction postponing the convention. Proponents suggested the delay to afford Obasanjo time to marshal support and undermine Ekwueme's momentum. However, this idea was ultimately discarded, partially because of apprehension over the public's reaction. More importantly, the push for an injunction became less urgent when the President's advisors began to sense their man was regaining ground by the hour.

The President owed much of his recovery to his own tenacity and, at times, shamelessness. He pulled out virtually all the stops to clinch the nomination, according to Abayomi. For most of that day, the President's diet consisted of liberal portions of humble pie. The President pleaded and cajoled; on at least two occasions his eyes welled with emotion as he pursued fence-sitting delegates and governors. However, Obasanjo saved his best to keep Vice President Atiku from defecting.

With rumor swirling that Atiku would opt to run with Ekwueme, Obasanjo wasted no time visiting the Vice President's residence. Obasanjo begged, declaring he would not leave Atiku's home unless the Vice President accompanied him to win back the delegates and governors. The performance had the desired effect. Atiku joined Obasanjo in publicly lobbying the conventioneers. While it might not have been Obasanjo's finest hour it was the defining moment of the convention. What had been a suspenseful contest would now turn into a rout.

Exactly! 2011 was a huge compromise from the north

2015 was an overkill

What determines turn is how many years a sitting president from a particular region has spent not what could have been.

Rayjay45:
The rest of people wey eim don dabaru dia lives is in the bag kwo?

If delusion was a data boy.

Things will change drastically for good at the MICRO ECONOMIC level before the election

E go shock una

Even then other regions don't really have a say...

AMINDAtheLunatic:
But Tinubu still does not enjoy broad Southern support and has also gone ahead to betray the North that made him president. Jonathan also had the total support of the Southeast, Southsouth and middlebelt. You now see why Yari and co have resorted to begging?

After the core north, the only region that can really take a stand is Tinubu's SW.

Other regions don't really have a say in this matter...

Don't you get it

Oracleee:
That's what you're paid to type or the only way you are able to calm yourself and sleep at night?


Subsidy removal by now is suppose to be felt not endured. By now, we ought to have seen some difference not still borrowing and borrowing with nothing to show for it. Let me ask if you can be rational. What year are we expecting some kind of change not balance just good change that is lived reality not APC purported change.

The gains are already manifesting on the macro economic level

These things take time

The FG is borrowing for projects not consumption.

AMINDAtheLunatic:
It was Tinubu that went to Daura to convince a retired Buhari to come use his popularity to chase his Southern brother, Jonathan, out of power so he can become president after him. That was why he said Emi Lokan in 2023. He took advantage of the exodus of Northern politicians from the PDP where Jonathan had reneged on a gentleman agreement. He didn't do any Southern Solidarity as his lackeys are now demanding from the rest of the South. Do not rewrite history.

GEJ lost his second term bid because it was NOT the turn of the south.

Tinubu merely took advantage

And GEJ shot himself in the foot by marginalizing the SW despite the critical role we played in making him president.

OfunaofuthePig:
It has now turned into begging.

Since they have absolutely nothing to campaign with, Yari should rather beg Tinubu not to seek re-election. Let him go and take care of himself in the French hospital.

A second term isn’t mandatory. The Constitution allows four years, with a maximum of eight years. He has done four years; he should go. That’s the honourable thing to do.

Yari, please beg Tinubu not to seek re-election.

Tinubu is just looking for his at least 25% in the core north.

The rest of the country is in the bag

AMINDAtheLunatic: There's nothing Yari can use in selling Tinubu to Northerners that Elrufai didn't do and say in 2023. That didn't stop Tinubu from betraying and incarcerating Elrufai. None of these men have the persuasive power of Elrufai. Their messages are not resonating with Northerners.

No southerner ever gets the support of the core north for a second term.

GEJ lost his second term bid because Yorubas did not support him.

Iteledicon:
Did God or Jesus even exist

Ask yourself that question daily

Does Israel and the middle east exist?

Why do p!!ggzzz like comparing subsidy era with post-subsidy era

What we had before 2023 was fake and unsustainable.

The country was heading for collapse.

She is too qualified and a likely threat to her would-be employers.

What a shame!

I have never seen a people hate their homeland so much

P!!ggz Am@c@r

aswani:
They borrowed money to pay subsidy, they didn't have it. Now you want them to borrow to transfer to people.

As long as they transfer to everyone apart from Obidients, I am ok with it sha.

No sir. They won't be borrowing money for this particular cash transfer.

First, the cash transfer will be only for the duration of the US-Iran war which has caused a huge spike in the price of crude oil thereby causing us to suffer higher prices at the pump back home.

Second, with our budget drawn on the basis of USD65 crude price, the current price of over USD100 is a windfall.

The FG can use part of this windfall to finance the unconditional cash transfer.

Happy Sunday

This is one sure way of bringing down the cost of living

This is the way forward

omoredia:
The first son of the village fooI

Who knows your father?

We shouldn't be exposed to global oil shocks...

Antoeni:
₦70,000 is the Minimum Wage. Petrol Sells Between ₦1,450 And ₦2,500 Depending On Where You Buying it.

Divide The Two And a Full Month of Work At The Bottom Buys About 40 litre

70,000 is the basic salary.

The total package is around 110k for the least paid civil servant. And they still get wage award on top.

Nowhere is petrol NGN2,500 or thereabout!

mightyhaze:
so tbe reason fuel is expensive and choking Nigerians is just to prevent smuggling.ok what's the reason for poir health facilities? So other ppl won't come and steal or enjoy health?

Why is there no good roads? So that other African countries can't come ride on it?

Have u been to Benin delta and port?

Of course we all know fuel is expensive worldwide because of the high cost of crude caused by the US - Iran war.

To bring down the price forcefully, you need to introduce subsidy which we are not good at.

As for other amenities, there is a huge infrastructure gap in the country requiring billions of dollars we don't have to fill.

The presidency needs to see this

esnbrutalitytheLunatic:
I know say ypu dey cry...

Shettima will be sworn in.

You go wail tire

AMINDAtheLunatic:
Was he a terrorist when he was busy making your tin-god president? Back then in Kaduna, when Tinubu was begging him to make him president, he called him "Dear brother Nosiru." No be una again?

"Cowards die a thousand times before their deaths"

- Williams Shakespeare

El Rufai's mouth put him in trouble.

He must bow to Tinubu or he will go to jail.

Even ADC chieftains are silent on the matter.

Welcome back sir

If fuel becomes so cheap, massive smuggling across the borders will begin, filling stations will horde fuel and sell to the highest bidder, long queues will return along with black marketers for those who cannot be patient.

Labour should press for unconditional cash transfer to all Nigerians instead.

helinues:
And government don't have their own obligation right?

Government obligation has been there before the war began and the huge windfall started coming in.

We already had a budget before the war.

FG MUST shield us from the crisis using part of the windfall.

helinues:
Figured out how? Explain the technique you are going to use

Those who will implement the policy will know how to take care of that.

And as I said earlier, the number of such accounts is negligible.

helinues:
How will you detect them?

That will be figured out. But it doesn't affect anything. The number will be negligible.

helinues:
And where would you generate the funds from if not from tax?

The funds are generated from the huge windfall as a result of the unusual increase in the price of crude oil caused by the US-Iran war

helinues:
Yes he has only one vote but there are exception for people like him in any country. Dangote's tax package is different from others

Again, this is about social welfare not tax.