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This is quite sad. Nigerians need to wake up. The French are the most wicked colonialists .

Two more French colonists have announced they want to end their relationship with France and Tinubu becomes the person to run to as they did during the Niger coup. Nigerians stood against invading niger and won. If the French are planning to plant military bases here, we'll also fight against it

Two partners in crime fighting. Nothing concern Delta man like me

They should ban foreign medical trips for government officials and several other foreign nonsense they do instead of banning foreign trips for scholars. Nigerian institutions are still very much behind and all over the world, countries go on research trips to other countries.

But no working countries send their public officials abroad for simple medical checkups

Faye is confused. Stop being indecisive or are you playing mind games? Today you want freedom, the next day you start ass licking the French snd their western cartels

Military detaining a civilian in a democracy? Buhari and Tinubu are curse to this country

Tinubu is a French asset

Was there a time income from Agriculture is shared? All Nigerians buy their food and the private businesses running the farms keep their money

alanto:
This reform get as e be o.

States like Borno, Bayelsa, Ebonyi, Kebbi and the likes how do they get money if federal government refuse to short change Lagos for them.

As scary as it sounds, na now we go know parasite 🪱

Let's see how things unfold.

Bayelsa is giving more to Nigeria than Lagos. As small as they are, they're in top 4 in oil exploration . Oil still remains by far the number 1 source of revenue

Osimhen is not doing bad. I think he deserves to be here.

Ever8090:
It really feels good to be in those markets back in the days untill Northern elites decided to scatter the region ... today, Hausas and Fulani that were considered the most honest people in Nigeria are becoming the most deadly criminals you will never pray to encounter

Please remove Fulani. There was no time they were considered honest

This is petty. If Ronaldo did this, I wonder what people would say

If it's that expensive, then why is it not extensively reared?

when ChatGPG generated this for you, you should have asked for links or go verify it by yourself

Elusive001:
Israel was not at war with Lebanese army. So why would Israel have cease fire the them?

The agreement didn't stipulate that Lebanese army disarm and disband Hezbollah. The truth is, Israel and Hezbollah are already weary of this conflict.

Do you think if Israel see the chance of completely eliminating Hezbollah they'll agree to a ceasefire? They're making progress but losing too much as well. They sense that the loss would be too much if the offensive is sustained.

Both side are going for ceasefire to rearm themselves. In a few years, the war continues, that's if a major war didn't escalate between Iran and Israel as Trump is coming in.

One of the major reason reason Trump doesn't want to continue sending arms to Israel is because he's going to put all the resources into Israeli military and probably start a way. And he's out to try to tame China too. Let's see how it goes

Botragelad:
This is part of the cease-fire deal. Hezbollah has been officially uprooted from the border. Left to them to keep their head in place, else the bombing continues!

There will be only the Lebanese army and UNIFIL forces on Lebanese territory.

Am yisreal chai 🇮🇱!

Is the cease fire between Israel and Hezbollah or Israel and Lebanese Army?

Everyone has become military experts. Wait till you know what's up

You guys have been scammed. The one called to uproot juju are the juju planters. They have no power and juju doesn't destroy anyone's life

Your father's friend planted them

Ngozi123:
Everybody laughs at everybody in Igboland so that's a ridiculous example to use.

If Ebonyi people are regarded as inferior, how did Simon Ekpa come to such a position of power?

You can deflect and play the ostrich all you want. The stigmatization of the Ebonyians is a real issue that has even become a hot topic within the "Igbo Unity Beggars" club. They have identified it as a bane to their quest of begging Deltans and Riverians to accept them and planning a campaign that won't be so public to address it.

Just as the Ronus have their coven, the propaganda arm of Igbo have theirs as well. I've infiltrated both lol

Ngozi123:
Catalonian is not intelligible with Spanish speakers. It is a completely different language.

A better analogy would be Castillan Spanish (Madrid) compared to Andalusian Spanish (Seville).

Catalan and Basque (the two regions most known for differentiating themselves from the rest of Spain) are different languages and not intelligible to most Spanish speakers.

My grandmother was from Aboh and she couldn't speak a lick of English, only Igbo. How, then, was she able to survive living in the South-East, seeing as she only knew how to speak her own dialect?

You guys are hilarious. What do you mean by "not intelligible" and "completely different language "? First, intelligibility is a spectrum - do you know that? And do you know that the term "language and dialect is subjective term? The fact that it's classified as a different language doesn't mean it doesn't qualify as a Spanish dialect - hence my choice of using it specifically.

I've lived in Europe for as long as I can remember and I've specifically had this conversation with people from Catalonia. It's a different language yes, but it's mutually intelligible. Is it completely mutually intelligible? No. The level of intelligibility depends on your exposure to speakers of the other language and if you're living in the contigious area which experience a form of a continuum.

peterincredible:
my broda I dey laugh ooo for ure grammar infact u sabi speak English oo any way u will always be my brother but as for me I have seen several anioma people my dad, mom and all our delta meeting people who come to our house for meeting first Sunday of every new month all of them speaks Igbo fluently when outside if you come to Ogun state and you meet an ijebu man if hin begin to speak hin dialect here even his fellow Yoruba man from ibadan go lost but they are still one my own is we all need to unite our culture and language are similar they are our brothers no other tribe go fit get our back ooo

Majority of Enuani people call what they speak Igbo - most of them are okay with that label. But most of them don't want a relationship with the South East for several reasons - including the diverse and heterogeneous nature of the region.

Ika and Ukwuani don't call what we speak Igbo. We speak Ukwuani and Ika. Ika and Ukwuani is even recognised as separate languages linguistically labeled as an IGBOID language. You have to understand the difference between Igboid and Igbo. Igala is a YORUBOID language but it's not Yoruba.

peterincredible:
bros my ex na correct agbor girl I broke up with her two weeks ago (still feeling sad about it because she is a sweet woman) sorry for diviating when she is on a call with her father I can hear some bit of what she is saying I can pick or understand some things she says when she speaks to her father but I notice that the anioma in general dialect can be different about (ika,ukuwani, asaba) and all but we all can speak Igbo fluently my dialect is different about from central Igbo but we all can quickly pick it up intact I watched an old video of igbos in equitoria guinea when dey speak I can pick up one or two they where saying

Do you know that some languages that are classified as different languages have an intelligibility rate of up to 99% while some dialects in the same language have intelligibility rate of below 50%? First, mutual intelligibility or more one sided form of intelligibility proves nothing.

Although intelligibility is not the only way to know how close two Languages are - there are also things like syntax, semantics, grammar can differ even in mutually intelligible language. Intelligibility is mostly a matter of the vocabulary of a certain language or dialect.


All that regardless, the most important factor in language classification is POLITICS. Identity politics specifically. And this is how it is everywhere in the world.

And no, Ika cannot speak Igbo. Any Ika you see speaking Igbo learned it

gidgiddy:
But you your self, you don't respect other people's identity. You see the Aro man, you call him Igbo. You see the Nsukka man, you call him Igbo. You see the Ngwa man, the Abakiliki man, the Ezza man, the Ibeku man, the Nkanu man, the Orlu man and you call all of them Igbo

Why didn't you respect their individual identities? Don't you know that all these people have different languages?

The reason why you cant respect their individual identities, as you want your own to be respected, is that the only difference with these people is small differences in dialect.

So you give all these people the general name "Igbo". That's the same reason these people also call the Ika's, Ukwuani, Oshimili and Enuani, Igbos.

Do you know that the same 'Okpala-ukwu' Ukwani practice, we also practice it in my area in Anambra, but we call it Okpala-Ekili due to our dialect? The same ancient Igbo God called Ikenga is in Ukwuani, although they call it 'Ikenge' due to their dialect

The point being made here is that if you do not want to be under the umbrella of 'Igbo' because of small differences in dialect, then stop calling anyone Igbo, we all have our own different dialects too. Practice what you preach

I call people what they want to be called. Give me an evidence of those people you mentioned collectively claiming to not be Igbos. Maybe their traditional rulers and traditional organisations. Until then, you have zero point.

Don't reply for the sake of replying

Odingo1:
Catalan language is clearly distinct from Spanish, as a Spanish person can’t hear or understand Catalan language, however in the case of Ika vs Igbo, Ika is not clearly distinct from Igbo as every Igbo person from SE hears Ika and Ika hears Igbo unlike Catalan and Spanish.

Quit lying to yourself. The only place an average South Easterner "hear" Ika is on the internet.

Talking about intelligibility, do you understand either catalan or Spanish? If no, how do you know they're completely different?

If you don't understand both, what would be your next duty? Internet right ?

Google wether catalon and Spanish are mutually intelligible and get back to me here.

Odingo1:
Ika dictionary or Bible you are talking about is still Igbo words, every tribe have different dialects, Igbo is unity name as Yoruba or Hausa is a unity name for all their dialects. Your Ika tag end in Delta state, immediately you enter SW or north you are seeing as Igbo because your Ika dialect is under Igbo language.

Mr. It's not an Igbo word. A lot of what you call Igbo today were borrowed from Ika and Ika borrowed from Igbo. It's normal for a minority group contiguous with a majority group to be influenced more but that doesn't erase their identity

You guys in South East seems to be very ignorant about what a language and dialect. The fact is, there is absolutely no difference between a language and dialect. The difference between a language and dialect is 100% political all across the world. Even some other factors that are considered are influenced by politics. Catalonia are deep inside Spain but they don't want to be Spanish anymore so they named their language Catalonian. Do you think Catalonia is not intelligible with Spanish?

I can give you a million examples

peterincredible:
bros I am from isselukwu and I and I Neva really cared about who is Igbo Yoruba or Hausa but as I began to work and hustle it was clear that if we the igbos dont unite I swear we go suffer, i am telling you with my own experience living in the south west for almost 30 yrs, the north and south west don't see us as one ooo we the igbos need to unite I observed that any time and anioma or any igbo speaking person from the south south reject there igboness the north and west are always happy( they really love to see us fight our selves and remain divided ) and what happened during the last election was an eye opener for me to accept my true identity and joing with our brothers from the east trust me they are the only ones who truly get out back I swear from my own experience I dey use tell u this thing oo

You don't reject what you're not. I'm Ika. I don't speak Igbo. I speak Ika. Ika is unarguably an Igboid language but language relationship is not always from kinship but an evidence of some form of interactions. Your Isele Uku that speak a tongue that's classified as a dialect of the Igbo language says they're not Igbo and you want to convince me an Agbor man that I'm Igbo?

Who cares what the Hausa and Yorubas like or don't like? Are Igbos model people to relate with? Do you see how they treat Ebonyi people simply because they are a bit diferrent from other Igbos? They antagonize them and laugh at them for being different. Having links with the Benue and Efik groups

Odingo1:
Do you need to have anything to do with SE to be part of it, name one geopolitical zone in Nigeria that is not having different tribes in it. Last I checked, Agbor people are called Delta Igbos how come you don’t have anything to do with Igbos.

South East are not even one people. They're a mix of different people but somewhat related but completely segregated. The Europeans for the ease of administration brought you all together and made you one. Even creating a language for you and calling it Igbo.

Fortunately, they didn't find us that much related to add us to you guys and the natural boundary also played a big part. Even though the whole Igbo identity has been rubbing on us, we still want to maintain our separate identity. It doesn't matter what some ignorant folks call us. What we call ourselves matters most. And Ika language is recognised as it's own language but under the IGBOID family. The Nigeria government respect our identity and whenever any form of convention or confabs are held, Ika Ethnic Nationality are requested to send their representatives. Ika is recognised as an ethnic group in Nigeria andnDelta and it's taught in school. We now have our dictionary and our bible etc

peterincredible:
I want the anioma state to come to be and I am not from the south east I am from anioma itself isselukwu I know my root as an Igbo man I grew up in the south west and my father always tell us we are igbos I want all igbos speaking community outside the south east to unite this identity crisis need to stop abeg

Majority of Delta Northerners want the state to be but since some people have started Igbonizing the whole thing, Anioma state can will not materialise and the Anioma nomenclature is getting disbanded.
In 2020, Ika Elders represented Ika Ethnic Nationality in the National Confab. Our representatives voted against Anioma state and also disclaimed Anioma nomenclature claiming it doesn't exist.

If you're from Isele Uku, I can confidently tell you that 90% of your chiefs and elders don't share the same views with you. I'm very very much involved in Delta North politics including the identity politics. Like I said, there's a high likelihood of someone from the SE to claim Delta North to support Ned and his promise of expansion. And also a Delta Northerner that is affiliated with Ned and co. The chance of someone organically campaigning to be in the South East is very very low although not impossible

DomPerignon:
Then why are you sitting down allowing Regina Daniels husband to be dragging you all to join the SE?

Clamor for Anioma state has been going for decades. There was no where that Delta North said they want to be in the South East. Ned is playing selfish politics with the clamor and that's how he wants to destroy the whole thing because Ikas and Ukwuanis don't want anything to do with that. Even Enuanis don't want to be part of the South East as related and close to SE as they are.

Ned had series of meetings with Ohaneze and Ipob. They discussed some things. I was opportuned to be in some of the public spaces where Ned was soliciting for support from the Igbos. He promised them an opportunity to expand and they also discussed the strategic importance of Rivers state and why they must have it.

Why is he doing all these? He just wants to be governors - that's all.

When you see someone online campaigning for Anioma state, there's a 99% chance he's either from the SE or someone that's paid by Ned and co to push for it. You'll hardly see a Delta Northern organically supporting this - all because of Ned

DomPerignon:
Good to know.

Now they can join you in your SE.

No problem.

I'm an Agbor man. I have zero business with the South East. I have never had any relationship witj them from pre-colonial times till date

DomPerignon:
Crying for losing dead weight?

Delta South and Central is where the money is.

Even in the old Midwest and later Bendel state, the current Delta north had always been the poorest and most ingratitude province. They even connived with Biafran orcs to invade and occupy the then Midwest under the Enugu puppet Okonkwo stooge government that declared Republic of Benin.

They are not needed in anyway. If not for Marriam Babangida, will that backwater Asaba have become capital of Delta state on its creation?

Well, my senator has said it all and has said he is in total support of Anioma state creation not out of altrustic reasons for Anioma people but rather to drop dead weight .

Facts says otherwise. The Ikas and the Enuanis have always had the most human resources in Nigeria. The Ukwuanis have had the most natural resources. Even the Ikas have oil and gas as well. The Delta north ethnic groups have always been ahead of you ogogoro drinking, community deve dependent Urhobo from the beginning of time.