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grandstar:
First, my response was directed at Krismass and not you.

I am pro-nobody. Anyone who chooses to be pro-Hamas or pro-Israel is partisan and none can't be partisan regarding this conflict and say they are right. Both sides have their faults.

Those who support Israel shout "kill the terrorists, finish them all" and those who support Hamas "support the shameless genocide of Israelis on October 7."

Hamas has failed Gazans who rather than focus on the economic growth of Gaza prefers to wage war. The treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank is unacceptable.

What is the point of elections in the West Bank? The only real challenger to Fatah is Hamas. Also, Fatah was previously holding elections in both the West Banks and the Gaza strip until Hamas seized full control of Gaza and ended elections.

grandstar:
It is amazing you deduced I'm pro-Israeli from from what I wrote. I am non-partisan and not absorbed about it like many others do.

Let me answer your questions one by one the way you did mine

1. Israel has no hold over Hamas. Yet, Israel controls over 80% of Gaza today and Hamas has lost thousands of fighters. Hold over Hamas?
You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The issue on ground isn't what Hamas thinks or Israel or what Israel thinks?. What
matters most is what policies can lift the fortunes of Gazans! This does not matter to you at all.

What is the way forward for Gaza? I would suggest the Gulf states along with others set up a new government which would be focused
on the welfare and growth of Gaza. There should also be thousands of peace keeping troops on ground.

Some autonomous status should also be given to it.

2. If Hamas rating was so good, why has Hamas stop free and fair elections in Gaza for over 15 years? It has held on to power through the
barrel of the gun. It knows it would lose any election. Hamas unapologetically runs a dictatorship.

It tolerates no dissent in Gaza. Even in Israeli prisons, it is notorious for its treatment of inmates (also Hamas members) who dare speak out
against it.

If it presently has mass popularity, it should boil down to the anger that Gazans now have against Israel due to the 7 month war.

https://www.jns.org/gazans-speak-out-hamass-warmongering-keeps-us-oppressed-and-poor/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-60173481

3. Whether Israel pulled out its settlers due to Hamas or not, means nothing.

What has Hamas done with the pull out? Nothing but warmongering, always fanning the flames of war.

4. Iran is a nuclear power. Iran like Hamas has impoverished its' people. In 1979, Iran was 50% richer per capita income than Turkey, today, it
is the other way around.

All Iran does is to wage trouble. Its people are fed off with the oppressive yoke of the Mullahs who misrule the place and want them gone.

No wonder Iran loves Hamas. They are birds of the same feather. Both are sponsors of hubris.

5. As I said, Israel ain't saints. Its actions in the West Bank leave me miffed. Anyone would.

Is it delusional to think that Palestinian growth is anathema to Israel? There are over 1million Palestinians that call modern Israel home.
Some are soldiers engaged in the present Gaza/Israeli war.

Now, what do you know about Cyprus?

Obaranje:
yea 8 months but Israel propose years, so you can see that you still have a lot of time to keep crying

This war go Long
Dey play

Obaranje:
he doesn't have to leave, bomb go soon send am under rubles another person go stand for him head for that same spot.

Dem no dey beg shit to smell, if e like make e small, if he like make e no smell them go still shit am out.

bizzibodi:
Nothing stops them... Arabs have vast lands why can't they leave that small land for d Jews that is their heritage they dnt have homeland elsewhere....let Arabs league need to meet carve out part of their lands for palestanians far away from israel.why do you folks hate peace?

nekta:
you say they cannot defeat and they cannot win so what’s the need for cease fire ? Let them fight and wipe out isreal if they can isreal doesn’t want to stop let them keep going

hansomb:
Mr Netanyahu is a war criminal. A genocidal maniac like Hitler and Leopold 2. God gave Israeli another opportunity but they're misusing it. This is the beginning of the end. I can't believe such people that are persecuted for hundreds of thousands of centuries most especially in Europe will resort to that same kind or even worst kind of treatment melted on them. They're a genocidal bully. Their time will come for sure.

Raf4:
I'm happy you're pained your bloood thirsty terroristReligion shitslam has jammed its superior and madder nemesis in Judaism. You people have been constituting nuisance all over the world, with Christians always turning the other cheek and letting go.
Judaism will cure your madnesss by fire by force.

bizzibodi:
Hear this

Krismas:
The shitsraelis don't give a damn that shitsrael is killing tens of thousands of babies. They only care about 100 hostages. Pigs.

FxMasterz:
Hamas lives solely for the destruction of Israel. Nothing more. Most of you don't understand what Israel is doing. It is part of the Constitution of Hamas never to stop fighting Israel until it is wiped off the face of the earth. If you know that your enemy has such a Constitution regarding your existence, would you allow such an enemy to live?

Raf4:
Have you ever condemned hamas for refusing to release the hostages?

Righteousness2:
If you know or Have an Understanding of the Word of GOD, the Holy Bible, you won't utter those words.

ISRAEL standing Alone is their way of life.
ISRAEL standing alone is Fulfillment of Bible Prophecies.
ISRAEL standing alone should make ypu Understand that the Bible is not a mere Story book.


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ISRAEL is a COVENANT Nation.
ISRAEL is GOD'S Signet on the Earth.
GOD does not need the Help of any nation or human to Fufill HIS purpose.

We need GOD'S Help
We need to Alignment with ISRAEL to feed from the Earth's Blessings

God1000:
This war criminal will not end well, the whole world can see now that Netanyahu is the problem, he's an obstacle to peace and unity between Israel and Palestine.

Mr Netanyahu, you can never extinguish the people of Palestine, you and your confederates will be brought to book

Long live Palestine